The Syndicate

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:37 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:35 pm

Wisdom wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:05 pm KZA/Mac/Creature/Wiml/Myself are the people I'm willing to exile today.

Why not Poison?

You and me are PoE smh

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:39 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:37 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:35 pm

Wisdom wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:05 pm KZA/Mac/Creature/Wiml/Myself are the people I'm willing to exile today.

Why not Poison?

You and me are PoE smh

Marmot green checked you.

Auwt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:41 pm Sending Wiml looks like the best option imo.
[VOTE: Wiml] aubergine

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:42 pm

Auwt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:41 pm Sending Wiml looks like the best option imo.
[VOTE: Wiml] aubergine

Why do you think wilm is the best option for you?

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:35 pm

Wisdom wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:05 pm KZA/Mac/Creature/Wiml/Myself are the people I'm willing to exile today.

Why not Poison?

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:25 pm

Wisdom wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:21 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:19 pm One thing I will suggest again is never exile the same person twice.

Suddenly... to lose via exile, we now have to be wrong and exile every single living traitor at some point during the game and even if we exile 1 or 2 traitors is doesn't matter.

I think this is much safer than the alternative of exiling anybody multiple times.

I'm starting to understand the pros of this strat.

Let's say we decide we want to give Marmot 5 peeks.

I would much rather bet the game on the four towniest players of our choice + 112 not containing all three out of three of the remaining traitors than I would solely on Poison being town.

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:19 pm One thing I will suggest again is never exile the same person twice.

Suddenly... to lose via exile, we now have to be wrong and exile every single living traitor at some point during the game and even if we exile 1 or 2 traitors is doesn't matter.

I think this is much safer than the alternative of exiling anybody multiple times.

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:46 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:25 pm

Wisdom wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:21 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:19 pm One thing I will suggest again is never exile the same person twice.

Suddenly... to lose via exile, we now have to be wrong and exile every single living traitor at some point during the game and even if we exile 1 or 2 traitors is doesn't matter.

I think this is much safer than the alternative of exiling anybody multiple times.

I'm starting to understand the pros of this strat.

Let's say we decide we want to give Marmot 5 peeks.

I would much rather bet the game on the four towniest players of our choice + 112 not containing all three out of three of the remaining traitors than I would solely on Poison being town.

I'm a green check. As green as the turtle in your avy.

Also, your opinion is faulty here, on exile thing.

And @Creature we can't be sure about exiling the same player over and over again without some confirmations.

@Gavial does it have to be 3 different traitors to be exiled at some point in the game or would you count it if a single traitor is exiled three times?

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:37 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:35 pm

Wisdom wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:05 pm KZA/Mac/Creature/Wiml/Myself are the people I'm willing to exile today.

Why not Poison?

You and me are PoE smh

Gira wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:45 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:03 pm I do have a green check, although I'm honestly leaning towards not exiling the same person over and over again, just in case it's wrong. Because as you say, even a green check at this point could be wrong.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:04 pm Poison is a green check. I feel fairly confident about it being right, but not 100%.

for the record, in the future unless someone is being voted, don't out your green checks anymore

i understand the sntiment about not exiling someone over and over, but that's playing not to lose, rather than playing to win. look at it this way: if we exxile someone three times in a row and do NOT lose the game, they are mechanically confirmed town. that is incredibly powerful. right now, there are 3 traitors and 9 townies excluding you. a good townread is likely to be correct. ultimately, when a nightless game comes down to endgame, you need to bet the game on one person being town for sure. what exiling 3x right now does is test your most confident townread right here and now, rather than waiting until we got down in numbers after several days to see if it's right

Auwt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:41 pm Sending Wiml looks like the best option imo.
[VOTE: Wiml] aubergine

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:48 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:46 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:25 pm

Wisdom wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:21 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:19 pm One thing I will suggest again is never exile the same person twice.

Suddenly... to lose via exile, we now have to be wrong and exile every single living traitor at some point during the game and even if we exile 1 or 2 traitors is doesn't matter.

I think this is much safer than the alternative of exiling anybody multiple times.

I'm starting to understand the pros of this strat.

Let's say we decide we want to give Marmot 5 peeks.

I would much rather bet the game on the four towniest players of our choice + 112 not containing all three out of three of the remaining traitors than I would solely on Poison being town.

I'm a green check. As green as the turtle in your avy.

Also, your opinion is faulty here, on exile thing.

And @Creature we can't be sure about exiling the same player over and over again without some confirmations.

@Gavial does it have to be 3 different traitors to be exiled at some point in the game or would you count it if a single traitor is exiled three times?

@Gavial

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:03 am

Auwt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:09 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:34 pm Oh sweet KZA spewed himself town.

I lied about who I rechecked. It was actually falcon, not KZA. Falcon is the traitor here.

Wow.......
Why would you fake claim like that.

I did it to get reactions from everyone, specifically KZA. What do you make of it?

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:46 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:25 pm

Wisdom wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:21 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:19 pm One thing I will suggest again is never exile the same person twice.

Suddenly... to lose via exile, we now have to be wrong and exile every single living traitor at some point during the game and even if we exile 1 or 2 traitors is doesn't matter.

I think this is much safer than the alternative of exiling anybody multiple times.

I'm starting to understand the pros of this strat.

Let's say we decide we want to give Marmot 5 peeks.

I would much rather bet the game on the four towniest players of our choice + 112 not containing all three out of three of the remaining traitors than I would solely on Poison being town.

I'm a green check. As green as the turtle in your avy.

Also, your opinion is faulty here, on exile thing.

And @Creature we can't be sure about exiling the same player over and over again without some confirmations.

@Gavial does it have to be 3 different traitors to be exiled at some point in the game or would you count it if a single traitor is exiled three times?

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:55 pm Yeah I think it's likely that you're just town now.

That being said, I think my strategy has virtually no risk? I don't think it's feasible that we end up exiling all three traitors individually in five attempts (including 112) or however many peeks we choose to give Marmot (and we can always switch to exiling you repeatedly later on in the game if that ends up being the best option as well).

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:54 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:48 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:46 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:25 pm

Wisdom wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:21 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:19 pm One thing I will suggest again is never exile the same person twice.

Suddenly... to lose via exile, we now have to be wrong and exile every single living traitor at some point during the game and even if we exile 1 or 2 traitors is doesn't matter.

I think this is much safer than the alternative of exiling anybody multiple times.

I'm starting to understand the pros of this strat.

Let's say we decide we want to give Marmot 5 peeks.

I would much rather bet the game on the four towniest players of our choice + 112 not containing all three out of three of the remaining traitors than I would solely on Poison being town.

I'm a green check. As green as the turtle in your avy.

Also, your opinion is faulty here, on exile thing.

And @Creature we can't be sure about exiling the same player over and over again without some confirmations.

@Gavial does it have to be 3 different traitors to be exiled at some point in the game or would you count it if a single traitor is exiled three times?

@Gavial

If at any point a traitor has been caught in exile and it occurred 3 times, traitors win.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:35 pm The odds of Marmot and the anticop targeting the same player must be pretty low.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:01 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:35 pm The odds of Marmot and the anticop targeting the same player must be pretty low.

I confirmed with Gavial, but any anti-cop targets will retain their framed alignment for the remainder of the game, not just the day they're targeted.

Auwt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:41 pm Sending Wiml looks like the best option imo.
[VOTE: Wiml] aubergine

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:48 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:19 pm One thing I will suggest again is never exile the same person twice.

Suddenly... to lose via exile, we now have to be wrong and exile every single living traitor at some point during the game and even if we exile 1 or 2 traitors is doesn't matter.

I think this is much safer than the alternative of exiling anybody multiple times.

This is a bad post. Never voting wilm for exile for sure.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:54 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:48 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:46 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:25 pm

Wisdom wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:21 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:19 pm One thing I will suggest again is never exile the same person twice.

Suddenly... to lose via exile, we now have to be wrong and exile every single living traitor at some point during the game and even if we exile 1 or 2 traitors is doesn't matter.

I think this is much safer than the alternative of exiling anybody multiple times.

I'm starting to understand the pros of this strat.

Let's say we decide we want to give Marmot 5 peeks.

I would much rather bet the game on the four towniest players of our choice + 112 not containing all three out of three of the remaining traitors than I would solely on Poison being town.

I'm a green check. As green as the turtle in your avy.

Also, your opinion is faulty here, on exile thing.

And @Creature we can't be sure about exiling the same player over and over again without some confirmations.

@Gavial does it have to be 3 different traitors to be exiled at some point in the game or would you count it if a single traitor is exiled three times?

@Gavial

If at any point a traitor has been caught in exile and it occurred 3 times, traitors win.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:56 pm Tbh, I'm ready to turbo Auwt for being so blatantly contrarian and chaotic.

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:56 pm But iirc, I was in the anti cop pool too right.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:01 pm Also, exiling a new person every day makes it more likely we exile the anti-cop, which is lowkey kind of a good thing.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:01 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:35 pm The odds of Marmot and the anticop targeting the same player must be pretty low.

I confirmed with Gavial, but any anti-cop targets will retain their framed alignment for the remainder of the game, not just the day they're targeted.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:09 pm So there are two options:

1. We hope to get another traitor tomorrow and then we just exile one different player every exile phase.
2. We just exile Poison every night and after three nights she should be confirmed non-traitor.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:09 pm So there are two options:

1. We hope to get another traitor tomorrow and then we just exile one different player every exile phase.
2. We just exile Poison every night and after three nights she should be confirmed non-traitor.

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:14 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:09 pm So there are two options:

1. We hope to get another traitor tomorrow and then we just exile one different player every exile phase.
2. We just exile Poison every night and after three nights she should be confirmed non-traitor.

We can do option 1 without another flip and that's the better option here (as I've been trying to say). The odds of us exiling all three traitors out of three remaining in our top list of towniest players should be close to 0 and that's before you factor in Marmot's peeks too.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:15 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:14 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:09 pm So there are two options:

1. We hope to get another traitor tomorrow and then we just exile one different player every exile phase.
2. We just exile Poison every night and after three nights she should be confirmed non-traitor.

We can do option 1 without another flip and that's the better option here (as I've been trying to say). The odds of us exiling all three traitors out of three remaining in our top list of towniest players should be close to 0 and that's before you factor in Marmot's peeks too.

I think we can still exile Poison today and then we alternate every night.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:08 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:54 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:48 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:46 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:25 pm

Wisdom wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:21 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:19 pm One thing I will suggest again is never exile the same person twice.

Suddenly... to lose via exile, we now have to be wrong and exile every single living traitor at some point during the game and even if we exile 1 or 2 traitors is doesn't matter.

I think this is much safer than the alternative of exiling anybody multiple times.

I'm starting to understand the pros of this strat.

Let's say we decide we want to give Marmot 5 peeks.

I would much rather bet the game on the four towniest players of our choice + 112 not containing all three out of three of the remaining traitors than I would solely on Poison being town.

I'm a green check. As green as the turtle in your avy.

Also, your opinion is faulty here, on exile thing.

And @Creature we can't be sure about exiling the same player over and over again without some confirmations.

@Gavial does it have to be 3 different traitors to be exiled at some point in the game or would you count it if a single traitor is exiled three times?

@Gavial

If at any point a traitor has been caught in exile and it occurred 3 times, traitors win.

So it's not as broken as it could've been.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:11 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:56 pm But iirc, I was in the anti cop pool too right.

It's not even reliable anymore as we now know KZA wasn't necessarily framed.

Auwt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:41 pm Sending Wiml looks like the best option imo.
[VOTE: Wiml] aubergine

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:50 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:11 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:56 pm But iirc, I was in the anti cop pool too right.

It's not even reliable anymore as we now know KZA wasn't necessarily framed.

yeah discard my anticop hunt from earlier since it was hinged on the assumption the anticop didn't self-target

112 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:52 pm

Auwt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:41 pm Sending Wiml looks like the best option imo.
[VOTE: Wiml] aubergine

send kaz tbh

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:35 pm The odds of Marmot and the anticop targeting the same player must be pretty low.