Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I want Wilgy first because I think that's correct and I want a clean voting record.
I don't think I even voted for it. Only asked how I could activate it.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:21 pm We're missing votes from me and Mac for hammer to be activated.
tbh I trust you the most alignmentwise and accuracywise so I can follow you there.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:22 pmI want Wilgy first because I think that's correct and I want a clean voting record.
Guess I'm fine with wolves dying already regardless of how well I perform.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:23 pm If I don't have 100% voting this game, I'm considering it a loss.
As a group I don't think we should do this, and personally I just refuse to do this.
So he kills you tonight and then I have to sit there and thunderdome with him for a whole other day, and who knows what Creature does?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:41 pmI will instantly flip Mac in final 3 if he's there. No discussion.
Or he kills me tonight and he convinces Creature to flip on you.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:42 pmSo he kills you tonight and then I have to sit there and thunderdome with him for a whole other day, and who knows what Creature does?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:41 pmI will instantly flip Mac in final 3 if he's there. No discussion.
Not my problem. I think DrWilgy is mafia, and I'm staking my 100% accuracy on it.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:42 pmSo he kills you tonight and then I have to sit there and thunderdome with him for a whole other day, and who knows what Creature does?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:41 pmI will instantly flip Mac in final 3 if he's there. No discussion.
I kindly ask you to please play to your true wincon, not a wincon you make up.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:43 pmNot my problem. I think DrWilgy is mafia, and I'm staking my 100% accuracy on it.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:42 pmSo he kills you tonight and then I have to sit there and thunderdome with him for a whole other day, and who knows what Creature does?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:41 pmI will instantly flip Mac in final 3 if he's there. No discussion.
Is my wincon not to vote for mafia? I'm not going to have this discussion with you.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:43 pmI kindly ask you to please play to your true wincon, not a wincon you make up.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:43 pmNot my problem. I think DrWilgy is mafia, and I'm staking my 100% accuracy on it.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:42 pmSo he kills you tonight and then I have to sit there and thunderdome with him for a whole other day, and who knows what Creature does?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:41 pmI will instantly flip Mac in final 3 if he's there. No discussion.
Sure thing partner. I'm turning on the computer now to try to figure this fiasco out.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:42 pmSo he kills you tonight and then I have to sit there and thunderdome with him for a whole other day, and who knows what Creature does?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:41 pmI will instantly flip Mac in final 3 if he's there. No discussion.
Uh oh guess I'm the potential screw up factor.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:43 pmOr he kills me tonight and he convinces Creature to flip on you.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:42 pmSo he kills you tonight and then I have to sit there and thunderdome with him for a whole other day, and who knows what Creature does?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:41 pmI will instantly flip Mac in final 3 if he's there. No discussion.
Your wincon is to try to win as town.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:46 pmIs my wincon not to vote for mafia? I'm not going to have this discussion with you.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:43 pmI kindly ask you to please play to your true wincon, not a wincon you make up.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:43 pmNot my problem. I think DrWilgy is mafia, and I'm staking my 100% accuracy on it.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:42 pmSo he kills you tonight and then I have to sit there and thunderdome with him for a whole other day, and who knows what Creature does?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:41 pmI will instantly flip Mac in final 3 if he's there. No discussion.
Sorry, I don't mean it like that, but like... Mac can be persuasive.Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:49 pmSeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:42 pmSo he kills you tonight and then I have to sit there and thunderdome with him for a whole other day, and who knows what Creature does?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:41 pmI will instantly flip Mac in final 3 if he's there. No discussion.Uh oh guess I'm the potential screw up factor.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:43 pmOr he kills me tonight and he convinces Creature to flip on you.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:42 pmSo he kills you tonight and then I have to sit there and thunderdome with him for a whole other day, and who knows what Creature does?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:41 pmI will instantly flip Mac in final 3 if he's there. No discussion.
I know. I will probably feel really bad mislynching Mac in F3.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:51 pmSorry, I don't mean it like that, but like... Mac can be persuasive.Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:49 pmSeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:42 pmSo he kills you tonight and then I have to sit there and thunderdome with him for a whole other day, and who knows what Creature does?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:41 pmI will instantly flip Mac in final 3 if he's there. No discussion.Uh oh guess I'm the potential screw up factor.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:43 pmOr he kills me tonight and he convinces Creature to flip on you.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:42 pmSo he kills you tonight and then I have to sit there and thunderdome with him for a whole other day, and who knows what Creature does?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:41 pmI will instantly flip Mac in final 3 if he's there. No discussion.
What do you think of him now?
Mostly I'm just annoyed.
Maybe if I wait long enough wolves will drop deadNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:25 pm By the way, is there any forum on this site that has a less appropriate name than "The Hustle"?
Where is the town?
Thanks, Syn.
Nah I'm just busy. Can't really cowpoke and play today until I get a moment. Wife's been stressed about wedding stuff and I figured helping her destress was more important than ISO jumping when I have alittle under 24 hours.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:03 pmMostly I'm just annoyed.
Him not posting again after saying that is probably slightly more wolf-indicative than town indicative since wolves might have a harder time thinking of something to say in that situation (but some town do as well), but all this really does is more cement him in my PoE rather than change the order of my PoE. A few hours of silence is not going to somehow beat out a multi-day case.
That being said, @DrWilgy is currently on-elim, and while I don't think it is the best elim, I'm not going to fight it if they're AFK, so the onus is on them to change the game state, and so they need to show back up.
Partner, I watched 2 episodes with the wife and that's about it.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:43 pm @DrWilgy is your roleplay supposed to in some way relate to the show, or the original series?
I ask because it makes it seem like you've never watched the show, is that accurate?
Ok, yeah... I started watching to understand your gimmick and I'm like, it's a bit off. I do appreciate the effort though.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:56 pmPartner, I watched 2 episodes with the wife and that's about it.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:43 pm @DrWilgy is your roleplay supposed to in some way relate to the show, or the original series?
I ask because it makes it seem like you've never watched the show, is that accurate?
I just felt like this vernacular would be cute to hold as long as possible considering some goons started basing meta reads on me for what they deem as gimmicks.
I have thought about potential EoD situations and I plan to come to the thread closeish to EoD tomorrow to make sure I don't need to do anything, but self-pres would only be necessary if Wilgy votes me well before EoD. Assuming you and Creature don't move votes, my analysis is:NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:56 pm @Seanzie you realize the way the votes stand you're going to have to self-pres
In character or out of character, I'd appreciate some thoughts/content about the game. If you're town you need to be found. If you're scum... well... also you need to be found.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:56 pmPartner, I watched 2 episodes with the wife and that's about it.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:43 pm @DrWilgy is your roleplay supposed to in some way relate to the show, or the original series?
I ask because it makes it seem like you've never watched the show, is that accurate?
I just felt like this vernacular would be cute to hold as long as possible considering some goons started basing meta reads on me for what they deem as gimmicks.
Yes I mean in hindsight Alison was clearly just doing the old sheep and shield Mac dealio. The question is whether she was doing that because I was right (Seanzie) and wanted to hedge between the two of them in the event one went over, or whether she was doing it because I was wrong and she thought a town might throw to Seanzie. Do you remember what the order of the Alison voting was? Was there an Alison voter prior to her voting Seanzie?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:12 pmNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:22 pm I re-read Alison's ISO. I'm so conflicted. I'll just kind of highlight what my thoughts were:
Creature - According to Alison, Creature hardly exists. You could read the ISO and forget that he is playing. It's very similar to how Alison handled my slot with the caveat that it deviates on D2... She had to find a D2 push, and I was on her case.
DrWilgy - Alison plays like DrWilgy isn't there, but then occasionally throws a weak town read that always has some sort of limp justification to it. I read this as extremely partner-y which is a big reason why I think DrWilgy is mafia (there's also another reason I have in mind, but flip a coin, I might get mod killed for voicing it - so I will refrain)
MacDougall - If I'm right, then the only positive thing MacDougall has done this game is he brought up DrWilgy as a potential target today... Everyone has bad games, but I almost feel like it's a disrespect to say Mac is town even if I kind of think he is, and I don't know if I could justify not making him one of the two eliminations. D1 consists of Alison going out of her way to be partner-y with Mac & Seanzie. There are other things that Alison does in her ISO that I think make Mac town... I'm not sure how to evaluate this because I think Alison was obvious wolf this game, but I don't know how she views her own game, so it's hard for me to judge how much she was setting up her own death as of D1, I would guess it probably wasn't at the top of the agenda...
Seanzie - Alison's approach to this slot is the same as her approach to Mac with the wrinkle that Alison has to try to convince Seanzie D2... I really have a sense that this interaction would have gone differently if W/W... Even the vote at EoD, I was fully expecting town!Creature to tie it up... So there's a good chance Alison bet on that as well - which would make Seanzie a ML target, not a distancing target.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:25 pm @MacDougall TBH, it reads like Alison was setting up to 1v1 you in F5, and whether town or mafia, you were just willingly walking the plank.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:39 pmI will choose not to, but I agree with you if you're down for Mac + DrWilgy as the two elims.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:36 pmCan you walk me through this? Personally, I think they have been trying to powerwolf for a sweep. Given the setup and player list, this is exactly what I would expect them to try for, and D1 makes sense for this, and Mac's attitude at SoD2 makes sense with this, as well as their posts about each other townleaning each other stronger than I would expect from either of them (except you know... when I was grilling them for hours about each other to the point where they absolutely had to show some "possible wolf here" thoughts)NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:25 pm @MacDougall TBH, it reads like Alison was setting up to 1v1 you in F5, and whether town or mafia, you were just willingly walking the plank.
There may have been times where they considered pivoting away from this strategy, but if I'm right about Mac here, I think this was their thought and general gameplan.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:40 pm I don't think Mac kills Falcon, it's not in his best interest. *shrug*@MacDougall thoughts?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:47 pmI think DrWilgy is mafia, so I'm gonna vote for them today... If I get to final 3, the odds of me voting Mac on policy is very high. Simply put, I think regardless of his alignment, he has put himself in a position to lose, and I can't overlook that if it goes to F3.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:42 pmIn a world where Mac is town, DrWilgy is my next most likely suspect and as a legacy I will leave that they should be most scrutinized tomorrow if I am not alive, but I always re-evaluate everyone in a FX situation, and I recommend everyone in FX do the same if it gets to that. I don't think it will though, and I think Mac just ends this.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:39 pmI will choose not to, but I agree with you if you're down for Mac + DrWilgy as the two elims.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:36 pmCan you walk me through this? Personally, I think they have been trying to powerwolf for a sweep. Given the setup and player list, this is exactly what I would expect them to try for, and D1 makes sense for this, and Mac's attitude at SoD2 makes sense with this, as well as their posts about each other townleaning each other stronger than I would expect from either of them (except you know... when I was grilling them for hours about each other to the point where they absolutely had to show some "possible wolf here" thoughts)NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:25 pm @MacDougall TBH, it reads like Alison was setting up to 1v1 you in F5, and whether town or mafia, you were just willingly walking the plank.
There may have been times where they considered pivoting away from this strategy, but if I'm right about Mac here, I think this was their thought and general gameplan.
Can we at least all agree how bad this post looks with the benefit of hindsight?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:02 pmI gotta say Fext, this post ain't no good look for you.Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:46 pm if I had to gth reads rn it'd look something like these two groups, townier one on top
NotAnAxehole
Creature
falcon45ca
Lime Coke
DrWilgy
MacDougall
Seanzie
Alison
although frankly I'm not confident I could put all of those into words I am open to being asked for what elaboration I can provide on a given player
also if I wrote this list again in an hour it could probably look completely different since I really am trying to build reads out of scraps
Creature being so high up is either a teammate interaction or it's revealing too much info.
Alison and I being so low as well. Well now, I just don't know about that.
At first, I did agree with what Ms. Alison had to say about you and that rascal LC, but I also liked both of your initial responses. This, however, well this just ain't right.
Can someone point me to any other instance where Alison couldn't find a quote in the thread - specifically a quote she took notice of?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:03 pm*tips cowboy hat*
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:02 pmI gotta say Fext, this post ain't no good look for you.Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:46 pm if I had to gth reads rn it'd look something like these two groups, townier one on top
NotAnAxehole
Creature
falcon45ca
Lime Coke
DrWilgy
MacDougall
Seanzie
Alison
although frankly I'm not confident I could put all of those into words I am open to being asked for what elaboration I can provide on a given player
also if I wrote this list again in an hour it could probably look completely different since I really am trying to build reads out of scraps
Creature being so high up is either a teammate interaction or it's revealing too much info.
Alison and I being so low as well. Well now, I just don't know about that.
At first, I did agree with what Ms. Alison had to say about you and that rascal LC, but I also liked both of your initial responses. This, however, well this just ain't right.
The next two posts
Y'know. Good luck there Sheriff. Unless your rascal.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:27 pm I reeeeeally don't wanna play f3 so can wilgy just be mafia please. That'd just be aces.
Hopefully he's ending the game today.