Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:20 am
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
Someone said something along the line about Dizzy. Not sure if I can trust it.Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:20 amWhy would Dizzy play harder as scum? I haven't seen this mentioned before
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:47 am Oh, you can trust it.
But the reason I haven't been around is just out of game reasons.
I haven't read the game and therefore not participated yet.
I don't know if I will before EoD or not.
Is this just a different way of saying the team is me / Sean / Marmot again?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:53 am JJJ def has better scum reads than me right now, & Nate's vote is lazy.
Of the 2, Nate is my pick for scum. Jay feels like he's trying to get towny activity out of me with his vote.
I have a sneaking suspicion that Maf are kinda letting town do their work for them currently, with a town voice in their crew.
So 1 Maf amongst the more vocal, with 1 -2 amongst the mid level contributors and 1-2 amongst the slanking players
Uhh... I think it has to do with some moments of inauthentic presence that seemed to be more designed to make Ender look active rather than do anything. He spent a lot of time early game bantering wont Rondo, which I didn't feel was going anywhere, and then his "gamestate" read felt inauthentic - something that might make him look like he is considering the game as a whole and having some weird bad feeling he can't quite explain... but the way he described it, it felt more like he was writing a little piece of descriptive fiction rather than describing how he really felt.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:05 am @Seanzie please talk to me about Ender a little bit. If you could summarize your suspicion in a sentence or two, how might you do so
Have you played with scum!Falcon?fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:13 amCan anyone vouch for Mac never being wrong as town about falcon?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:00 amyeah but like, as town I'm never wrong on you so you shouldn't think I'm town lolfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:02 am67% town, I don't think scum Mac would push my ML so hard. I'd say his gut feel is real, it's just wrong.
Gth I’d say I’m townleaning mac, and scumleaning falcon so considering following that vote but I have reservations as I always think falcon is scum and have been wrong
Did you ever find the time to give me an update on the game/reads from your perspective? I asked you about it yesterday and I know you said you were still catching up.NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:23 amIs this just a different way of saying the team is me / Sean / Marmot again?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:53 am JJJ def has better scum reads than me right now, & Nate's vote is lazy.
Of the 2, Nate is my pick for scum. Jay feels like he's trying to get towny activity out of me with his vote.
I have a sneaking suspicion that Maf are kinda letting town do their work for them currently, with a town voice in their crew.
So 1 Maf amongst the more vocal, with 1 -2 amongst the mid level contributors and 1-2 amongst the slanking players
You said your observation of Mac's playstyle is that he often hard tunnels someone to see what ripples out from it. Do you think that's how he's approaching Falcon?Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:55 amI don't have any hard scum leansRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:35 amI like the activity but you said just above that Falcon may be mislynch but keep him in your hard scum leans?
I am worried about my Falcon read yeah, considering the push on him, but I also need to respect where my read is instead of walking around it. There are times where the thread is correct on D1 so. I voted Marmot over Falcon anyway tbh
Yes, I’m contemplating where we go if wrong about todays candidates. Looking to the futureJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:03 am I have a vague impression that fingersplints is trying to sort the game, even if we cannot see all of it in actual posts. There are nuggets and hints to suggest it. This is not a strong read and should be taken with a grain of salt, but it's my initial gun-to-head view.
Perhaps you can share your thoughts on who you think should go today? If you already did, just let me know and I'll look through your ISO.fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:43 amYes, I’m contemplating where we go if wrong about todays candidates. Looking to the futureJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:03 am I have a vague impression that fingersplints is trying to sort the game, even if we cannot see all of it in actual posts. There are nuggets and hints to suggest it. This is not a strong read and should be taken with a grain of salt, but it's my initial gun-to-head view.
I haven’t read everything so can’t be confident in four on day 1. I’d solidly place you and Mac at the top, I think both Alison and Ender are likely ok, but more hesitant. I think if you take away playstyle things then rondo is okJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:23 am If you wish to answer and don't have four names, get as close as you can.
YesNateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:31 amHave you played with scum!Falcon?fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:13 amCan anyone vouch for Mac never being wrong as town about falcon?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:00 amyeah but like, as town I'm never wrong on you so you shouldn't think I'm town lolfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:02 am67% town, I don't think scum Mac would push my ML so hard. I'd say his gut feel is real, it's just wrong.
Gth I’d say I’m townleaning mac, and scumleaning falcon so considering following that vote but I have reservations as I always think falcon is scum and have been wrong
I was uncharacteristically active, plus i’m working full time atm, on the clock rnJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:19 am @lucy you seem to have lost some steam. What's happening
I did not, no. There are still a few pages from yesterday during the (US) day that I haven't read, but I have more time today to catch up the rest of the way and stay current. I'll give you some thoughts, though, starting off with @JaggedJimmyJay's request for 4 town names. My top town would be JJJ, Mac, Boq, and Lucy. I know that has significant overlap with "most active". But JJJ and Boq both seem to be doing their own thing and solving independently while also making sure the overall thread state is moving in a positive direction. None of JJJ/Mac/Boq seem all that concerned with triangulating their reads so they match up (as one example, Boq's early town leans had overlap with Mac's early scum leans). Lucy I still just think is town from overall comfort level and tone. I think she'd be more self-conscious about not having reads as a wolf, especially when Mac was prodding her about it.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:31 amDid you ever find the time to give me an update on the game/reads from your perspective? I asked you about it yesterday and I know you said you were still catching up.NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:23 amIs this just a different way of saying the team is me / Sean / Marmot again?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:53 am JJJ def has better scum reads than me right now, & Nate's vote is lazy.
Of the 2, Nate is my pick for scum. Jay feels like he's trying to get towny activity out of me with his vote.
I have a sneaking suspicion that Maf are kinda letting town do their work for them currently, with a town voice in their crew.
So 1 Maf amongst the more vocal, with 1 -2 amongst the mid level contributors and 1-2 amongst the slanking players
This post is just terrible and you all are completely ignoring how terrible this post isMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:23 pm I kinda think that there is a necessary auto period here.
Like there is a line and those below it have to all die before those above it because if the mafia are all above it the game is already over and we are wasting our time and that's very unlikely.
Line
Dyslexicon
Creature
Falcon
DrWilgy
For some reason I don't want to put Fingersplints below the line. I think Dyslexicon has the most chance of being town but I can't reasonably put him above it.
👍fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:00 amYesNateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:31 amHave you played with scum!Falcon?fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:13 amCan anyone vouch for Mac never being wrong as town about falcon?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:00 amyeah but like, as town I'm never wrong on you so you shouldn't think I'm town lolfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:02 am67% town, I don't think scum Mac would push my ML so hard. I'd say his gut feel is real, it's just wrong.
Gth I’d say I’m townleaning mac, and scumleaning falcon so considering following that vote but I have reservations as I always think falcon is scum and have been wrong
P sure Wilgy is just outed. Oppotunism my butt. There is nothing opportunitic about my play around Wilgy. He has constantly been a major concern of mine and isn't currently a wagon. This thought is fake. Wilgy woooooolfy
I had to go back as I read this earlier, but wasn't in a place to respond. My time with patients should involve my phone less you see, but your desire for insight here is warranted.NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:06 amI'm not sure how to read this other than like, resigned and disappointed that a towncore is forming.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:19 amIt appears so.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:13 am @DrWilgy I have no idea when you have or have not done that exact thing as mafia. That is more specific than I am going to get with a meta read. Is Mac in the “town core”?
Even if it is just a 2 person core from what I've seen of the thread so far and trying to exclude my own bias. Other potential core members who are being read as town potentially include Boc, you, maybe Alison. It is early but I see it developing.
I thought about these two a lot while I was shaving my head. I'd like to say more about this, but if possible I'd like to hear from @MacDougall about something first.Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:49 pmThis post is just terrible and you all are completely ignoring how terrible this post isMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:23 pm I kinda think that there is a necessary auto period here.
Like there is a line and those below it have to all die before those above it because if the mafia are all above it the game is already over and we are wasting our time and that's very unlikely.
Line
Dyslexicon
Creature
Falcon
DrWilgy
For some reason I don't want to put Fingersplints below the line. I think Dyslexicon has the most chance of being town but I can't reasonably put him above it.
Is it now?
Yeah, you've expressed concern, but you know what I think? I think it is more concern that I pegged you as scum early. This quote:DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:14 pmIs it now?
I've expressed concern at your lack of alternative ways of thinking and acting towards me. You continue to advise that I'm scum without much engagement. This isn't even an engagement towards me, just a claim.
I did not believe you felt your earlier claims that I was scum and have expressed it.
"Now that my name appeared thrice, it was a far too good of a fruit for scum to not attempt to chomp at. Seanzie just did this." I believe is perfectly reasonable thought.
reeks of someone trying to get a townie off their back, and I didn't respond the way you wanted me to and I think you're a bit sour about that.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 1:58 pmI see... *Scribbles down notes* now that you feel that, how do you wish to act following? Can you tell me the first thing that comes to mind, but after provide 2 more alternatives?
Your only "read" of me is based off an exchange we had shortly after I first posted in D0. Do you have anything to say about me regarding... the entire rest of the game?
It sure sounds that way.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:01 pm @Dyslexicon
I know it sounds like you have some out-of-game things keeping you waway form the thread, but if you find the time, can you ISO one of the following and give your thoughts:
NatetheLesser
Marmot
DrWilgy
Creature
All their ISOs are pretty short - less than one page or barely onto the second.
@EnderWiggin @RondoDimBuckleDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:40 pm Can you or someone tell me why Ender and Rondo are voting me?
Kind of cringe.
I think Rondo is voting you because you didn't answer their question(s). If you asked Rondo why Ender is voting, Rondo would say that Ender is voting because Ender is seeing the same things as Rondo. If you asked Ender, he would probably say his vote is pressure to get you to do something.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:40 pmIt sure sounds that way.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:01 pm @Dyslexicon
I know it sounds like you have some out-of-game things keeping you waway form the thread, but if you find the time, can you ISO one of the following and give your thoughts:
NatetheLesser
Marmot
DrWilgy
Creature
All their ISOs are pretty short - less than one page or barely onto the second.
I don't usually get a lot out of ISO-ing, and especially when I have no clue what is going on in the game overall.
However, I'll make sure to do Marmot if I'm not able to read the game properly or satisfactory before EoD. Since you are asking so nicely.
He's the only one out of the bunch I think I can read reliably meta-wise.
Can you or someone tell me why Ender and Rondo are voting me?
Kind of cringe.
I think it would be help me, Wilgy McGoo, if you could talk about your read on Mac as though you're not a part of it -- that is, it seems to me that when you remove DrWilgy's existence from Mac's play, you like Mac's play. If so, what about that gives you a good impression of him?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:09 pm Now that I've slept on it and thought about it more, I do believe I've spent too much time in what I must now acknowledge as tinfoil towards Mac. His content is good and I do think it is pro town currently. I will leave it at that and may reassess as the game progresses.
Ok, thanks. I haven't seen these questions.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:42 pmI think Rondo is voting you because you didn't answer their question(s). If you asked Rondo why Ender is voting, Rondo would say that Ender is voting because Ender is seeing the same things as Rondo. If you asked Ender, he would probably say his vote is pressure to get you to do something.
1) Something with a lot of guacamole. I'm not really a foodie or anything, and I eat vegetarian. But guacamole is important.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:03 am @Dyslexicon Two things
1) What is your favourite kind of burrito
B) What is your game state read?
%) If you had a vig who is gone and why?
How do you think a town Wilgy would be most likely to handle your vote here?
Thanks, by the way, to those that answered this prompt. I will do the same: Boquise, Mac, Alison, and lucy.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:22 am General question for anyone:
If you had to name four solid town reads as of right this moment, who are they?
These are the strongest players in the game (excluding myself), do you have any concerns about that? and if all of you were town, would G-man re rand roles?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:06 pmThanks, by the way, to those that answered this prompt. I will do the same: Boquise, Mac, Alison, and lucy.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:22 am General question for anyone:
If you had to name four solid town reads as of right this moment, who are they?
I'm not completely sure, but I don't think they'd be majorly concerned about it. They usually shrug off things for a while in most games i've seen. Alison made a point that they freaked out about being suspected in an FX situation, and actually after seeing her say that I remember Wilgy did respond to pressure in the TF2 game, but again that was late game when miselims were becoming scarse, so I still feel the reactionary way they've been playing is not in-line with what I expect from town!Wilgy unless they feel the game is at a crucial point, which I don't get the indication that they do.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:00 pmHow do you think a town Wilgy would be most likely to handle your vote here?
I am clearly the strongest player in the game.lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:10 pmThese are the strongest players in the game (excluding myself), do you have any concerns about that? and if all of you were town, would G-man re rand roles?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:06 pmThanks, by the way, to those that answered this prompt. I will do the same: Boquise, Mac, Alison, and lucy.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:22 am General question for anyone:
If you had to name four solid town reads as of right this moment, who are they?
It would be good for you to elaborate on Creature as they are in contention.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:11 pm I can do three town reads without having read the game, just glanced on a few posts: Lucy, Boq, Creature.
How did I do?
Don't hold me to these when I get to reading, but they will probably be unchanged.