The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:45 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:42 pm
Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:39 am I'm doing a bit of maths. is HK confirmed town?? I feel like i read that somewhere
I mean sloonei was hard pushing me yesterday, so unless you think that was a bus or some play to try to go deep, yeah.
Someone else flipped spewed me I think too, but I dunno.

I know I haven't done anything useful so your mileage may vary.

You were spewed town by marmot but then I lost confidence in that because sloonei made some good points against you in cat's iso, and yeah.

You're just town.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:46 pm**

Made is 100% my tinfoil and would shoot if given a gun.

*hint hint*

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:47 pm**

You want to read my tinfoil?

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Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:48 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:47 pm You want to read my tinfoil?

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I'm losing confidence in my townread on Radishes

112 being 3p made me lose credibility in MR, but there be bigger fish to fry.

Plus I like MR's avatar.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:49 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:48 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:47 pm You want to read my tinfoil?

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I'm losing confidence in my townread on Radishes

112 being 3p made me lose credibility in MR, but there be bigger fish to fry.

Plus I like MR's avatar.

Perhaps credibility isn't the right word. General Town points? Sounds better but that's a mouthful.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:49 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:46 pm Made is 100% my tinfoil and would shoot if given a gun.

*hint hint*

Made claims to be invincible.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:50 pm**

What's the deal with Syn?

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:50 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:50 pm What's the deal with Syn?

regarding?

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:51 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:50 pm What's the deal with Syn?
regarding?

In general.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:53 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:51 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:50 pm What's the deal with Syn?
regarding?
In general.

Claims to gain the ability of whoever has been chopped.

The whole mech disaster when he thought he had caught MR sounded genuine imo

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:54 pm**

Oh, and syn silenced sloonei as well. Don't think mafia silence mafia really. And sloonei sort of tmi'd Syn reading back on his iso

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:07 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:47 pm You want to read my tinfoil?

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I'm losing confidence in my townread on Radishes

Please don't make me argue for my life again.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:30 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:48 am i really don’t get how you can vote for me rn over wilgy, i swear

here’s what you know thus far :

> i hunt for what is likely a mafia role
> i am not a mass destruction role, since i just blow up last night
> in case i am some mafia role, i am not a threat. i can always be a backup yeet.

this makes sense to me.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:32 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:30 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:48 am i really don’t get how you can vote for me rn over wilgy, i swear

here’s what you know thus far :

> i hunt for what is likely a mafia role
> i am not a mass destruction role, since i just blow up last night
> in case i am some mafia role, i am not a threat. i can always be a backup yeet.
this makes sense to me.

grats, you're a true champion

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:32 pm**

short of someone blowing up today it's between wiggly and ted, and of those two I kinda like ted to be not dead.
[VOTE: wiggly] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:33 pm**

shouid've added a wolfy pop-in notice within that post, missed opportunity

i'm still clueless as to how / why i'm being voted over wilgy or someone that we have no info on.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:34 pm**

Actually it'd be good for Wilgy to share more on his role.

Like everything.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:35 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:30 am These are the wagons right now, I agree a counter wagon is really necessary, but looking at how Ted is posting I am almost sure he is scum/antitown anyway.
looking at how he wanted to push me into the Poe doesn't fit with a town Ted who would interact with me before labeling me as possible scum yday

these are the accusations that go towards my slot

"he isn't town"

ok, so you're just saying i'm a 3p. 3ps aren't scum. and it's about the 50th time that i say that my wincon is achieved when a possible big bad role is down (which can also reasonably be mafia). how i'm being voted is beyond my comprehension

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:35 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:32 pm short of someone blowing up today it's between wiggly and ted, and of those two I kinda like ted to be not dead.
[VOTE: wiggly] aubergine

why? w/r/t ted

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:35 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:34 pm Actually it'd be good for Wilgy to share more on his role.

Like everything.

no, i think you guys are better off voting me for no reason when i've laid the logic in front of your eyes

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:38 pm**

@Dyslexicon i believe you misunderstood my actions ever since i've claimed

i've specifically said the strongman activates upon finding the role. and it's why i was saying that it makes sense due to the lack of town kp and small, concentrated guaranteed kp on a 3p / mafia makes sense in a setup where town doesn't have a lot of kp.

but when people don't see a villa claim they don't care anymore, doesn't matter if they are a 3p. even though i'm making a ton of sense.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:40 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:35 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:34 pm Actually it'd be good for Wilgy to share more on his role.

Like everything.
no, i think you guys are better off voting me for no reason when i've laid the logic in front of your eyes

I have no qualms yeeting a 3P tbh.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:41 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:35 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:30 am These are the wagons right now, I agree a counter wagon is really necessary, but looking at how Ted is posting I am almost sure he is scum/antitown anyway.
looking at how he wanted to push me into the Poe doesn't fit with a town Ted who would interact with me before labeling me as possible scum yday
these are the accusations that go towards my slot

"he isn't town"

ok, so you're just saying i'm a 3p. 3ps aren't scum. and it's about the 50th time that i say that my wincon is achieved when a possible big bad role is down (which can also reasonably be mafia). how i'm being voted is beyond my comprehension

I think the argument is that you aren't town, and you might be just lying. The only way to know for sure is for the role you're hypothetically searching for to kill to speak up (unlikely cus they either just don't exist or they would get shot if you survived) or to yeet you.

That's mostly the logic behind it.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:41 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:34 pm Actually it'd be good for Wilgy to share more on his role.

Like everything.

@Justplayingitcool

Is it this kind of thing that is making you lose faith?

We have all these grey areas of "well, maybe there was some redirection at play there...y'know the wolves could have a redirector...hmmm." And as far as I know from having sort of kept up but not reading back, Radish is "some sort of redirector" who has been pretty vague about exactly what he does and not been specific at all about who he is doing it to. But man he is Johnny Radish on the spot solving that mech and digging out roles.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:41 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:40 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:35 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:34 pm Actually it'd be good for Wilgy to share more on his role.

Like everything.
no, i think you guys are better off voting me for no reason when i've laid the logic in front of your eyes
I have no qualms yeeting a 3P tbh.

i hope the wolf / wolves are deep. since i could've sniped a potential deep role easily. but the village wants none of it.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:41 pm**

not to mention that we've already encountered one 3p that could have fucked us if ignored

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:43 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:41 pm I think the argument is that you aren't town, and you might be just lying. The only way to know for sure is for the role you're hypothetically searching for to kill to speak up (unlikely cus they either just don't exist or they would get shot if you survived) or to yeet you.

That's mostly the logic behind it.

or to let me in the game until it goes away or until i eliminate it. since the role is >rand to be a mafia role.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:43 pm**

Hi Tim, I'm acknowledging that you've posted about me.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:43 pm**

we're basically at the point of the game where we're working our way down the PoE, if there's someone you think deserves to be ahead of you in the PoE that's how you can survive long enough to prove your flagship thing

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:44 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:41 pm not to mention that we've already encountered one 3p that could have fucked us if ignored

And when I said that was a good reason to go after Alison instead of just letting her win as if that couldn't be bad for town I got shut down completely. The fact that ONE 3P has a win by themselves option surely means the others don't...or so I was told by the towncore.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:44 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:43 pm we're basically at the point of the game where we're working our way down the PoE, if there's someone you think deserves to be ahead of you in the PoE that's how you can survive long enough to prove your flagship thing

Yeah. This. Keeping Ted around as a backup chop is silly and he knows it. If he wants to live that's not the argument that's going to win me over.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:45 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:41 pm not to mention that we've already encountered one 3p that could have fucked us if ignored

so then just roleblock me / redirect me. you have no reason to believe i'm doing any harm.

again, i'm not a mass destruction role of any kind. otherwise i just trigger yesterday. and if we somehow don't stumble upon mafia, we can just take me out later. we already have some info on me, but none on a person that's actually being wolfy fmpov.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:45 pm**

and like I said, I am open to flying into the sun like a dumb waxy bird if it makes things weird. I want to make things weird

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:46 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:44 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:43 pm we're basically at the point of the game where we're working our way down the PoE, if there's someone you think deserves to be ahead of you in the PoE that's how you can survive long enough to prove your flagship thing
Yeah. This. Keeping Ted around as a backup chop is silly and he knows it. If he wants to live that's not the argument that's going to win me over.

what? why? it makes perfect sense to me.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:46 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:45 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:41 pm not to mention that we've already encountered one 3p that could have fucked us if ignored
so then just roleblock me / redirect me. you have no reason to believe i'm doing any harm.

again, i'm not a mass destruction role of any kind. otherwise i just trigger yesterday. and if we somehow don't stumble upon mafia, we can just take me out later. we already have some info on me, but none on a person that's actually being wolfy fmpov.

wouldn't roleblocking and redirecting you prevent you from finding your boat

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:46 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:57 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:54 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:51 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:50 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:45 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:42 am oh yeah she claimed baseball thrown at her

But then why wouldn’t sloonei target her again if she was actually targeted?

did someone else claim to be thrown a ball after that day?
Not that I know of
suspeeesh Isn’t it?

doesn’t matter rn though, we can’t even vote for her
Not really
he didn’t use it on anybody else though, right?

why not? and especially, why not on her again? from his role description, kp is achieved if you target the same person.
I just don’t see why mafia would waste throwing it at themselves when it takes a few days to charge up

the wifom answer is exactly the situation we're in right now. but yeah, I think there are better people to go after than Tutuu right now. That may change for future HK, but that's a problem for future HK to resolve.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:47 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:28 am Maybe Tim is a wolf. I can't believe he's this whiny about a game where his team is winnings handily, and I've been assuming he's doing this on purpose. But like, if you want to take on the role of not letting your team get complacent, you so the work to poke at the fringes yourself, not complain and degrade your team's work incessantly.

So maybe he's just a wolf who is hoping to get to a stage where he can say he told us so and foster confusion and paranoia. Considering the flipped scum roles so far have been collectively pretty weak, maybe he was their extra KP.

Tim knows he has to kill me before that happens though.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:48 pm**

i think wilgy has a lot of wolf equity and he hasn't claimed anything despite being vague in ways that he could clear himself. he also didn't start by claiming his role in a game where ~everyone has claimed except for 2-3 people and he was placed in the near PoE.

i doubt he targeted martin tonight of all people that "he didn't need to die in order to clear himself" so why didn't he come forward with more role info?

hint : it's because everyone is doing nothing and placing nonsensical votes on a claimed 3p. he's stalling.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:49 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:46 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:45 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:41 pm not to mention that we've already encountered one 3p that could have fucked us if ignored
so then just roleblock me / redirect me. you have no reason to believe i'm doing any harm.

again, i'm not a mass destruction role of any kind. otherwise i just trigger yesterday. and if we somehow don't stumble upon mafia, we can just take me out later. we already have some info on me, but none on a person that's actually being wolfy fmpov.
wouldn't roleblocking and redirecting you prevent you from finding your boat

you forget that my wincon is to outlast the ship, i don't really have to find it myself. as long as it dies, i leave the game victorious. and my point is that it's >rand to be mafia also.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:49 pm**

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I think this was the interaction that made me think Ted wasn't w/w with sloonei. Slightly weak I admit, but that was where my head was at last night with it.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:52 pm**

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:41 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:34 pm Actually it'd be good for Wilgy to share more on his role.

Like everything.
@Justplayingitcool

Is it this kind of thing that is making you lose faith?

We have all these grey areas of "well, maybe there was some redirection at play there...y'know the wolves could have a redirector...hmmm." And as far as I know from having sort of kept up but not reading back, Radish is "some sort of redirector" who has been pretty vague about exactly what he does and not been specific at all about who he is doing it to. But man he is Johnny Radish on the spot solving that mech and digging out roles.

Mainly the I sort of believe ted's 3p claim, but I also believe kyle as well so there's got be a redirector if that world exists.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:52 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:49 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:46 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:45 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:41 pm not to mention that we've already encountered one 3p that could have fucked us if ignored
so then just roleblock me / redirect me. you have no reason to believe i'm doing any harm.

again, i'm not a mass destruction role of any kind. otherwise i just trigger yesterday. and if we somehow don't stumble upon mafia, we can just take me out later. we already have some info on me, but none on a person that's actually being wolfy fmpov.
wouldn't roleblocking and redirecting you prevent you from finding your boat
you forget that my wincon is to outlast the ship, i don't really have to find it myself. as long as it dies, i leave the game victorious. and my point is that it's >rand to be mafia also.

why do you think it's probably not a town boat

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:54 pm**

I'm open to letting Ted Slide if and only if the other bus is sexy and cool and within the PoE as per Made's proclaimation

also what game is the flagship thing from? was there a boat mafia

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:54 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:46 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:57 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:54 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:51 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:50 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:45 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:42 am oh yeah she claimed baseball thrown at her

But then why wouldn’t sloonei target her again if she was actually targeted?

did someone else claim to be thrown a ball after that day?
Not that I know of
suspeeesh Isn’t it?

doesn’t matter rn though, we can’t even vote for her
Not really
he didn’t use it on anybody else though, right?

why not? and especially, why not on her again? from his role description, kp is achieved if you target the same person.
I just don’t see why mafia would waste throwing it at themselves when it takes a few days to charge up
the wifom answer is exactly the situation we're in right now. but yeah, I think there are better people to go after than Tutuu right now. That may change for future HK, but that's a problem for future HK to resolve.

It could be wifom and while technically possible it's also 99.999999999999999% to be unlikely.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:54 pm**

Battleship Mafia

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:56 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:52 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:49 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:46 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:45 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:41 pm not to mention that we've already encountered one 3p that could have fucked us if ignored
so then just roleblock me / redirect me. you have no reason to believe i'm doing any harm.

again, i'm not a mass destruction role of any kind. otherwise i just trigger yesterday. and if we somehow don't stumble upon mafia, we can just take me out later. we already have some info on me, but none on a person that's actually being wolfy fmpov.
wouldn't roleblocking and redirecting you prevent you from finding your boat
you forget that my wincon is to outlast the ship, i don't really have to find it myself. as long as it dies, i leave the game victorious. and my point is that it's >rand to be mafia also.
why do you think it's probably not a town boat

i've never seen outlast wincons with town targets. it's always between 3ps or 3p with hunting mafia. and just from a perspective of town lacking KP (we only had a claimed n3 vig?) it seems a smart balance design to have a role that can take out a mafia role / 3p role. as in, it's low kp but it's concentrated and guaranteed to land on an evil.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:57 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:54 pm I'm open to letting Ted Slide if and only if the other bus is sexy and cool and within the PoE as per Made's proclaimation

also what game is the flagship thing from? was there a boat mafia

it's FTL mafia

and another argument that i forgot to talk about was that I researched it (since i remembered the game the role was from) and that ship was a mafia role there.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:01 pm**

If we keep you alive can I steal your strongarm kill

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:02 pm**

if we yeet you does Syn steal your strongarm kill :hmm:

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:03 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:01 pm If we keep you alive can I steal your strongarm kill

idk how your role works. i have more than one ability, so i assume it's rng'd between my abilities?

and, again, my strongman ability works ONLY if you find the role. so idk if it'd work if you can just straight up choose what ability you want to steal.

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