Re: Girl Genius (Day 4)
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:46 pm
Tony, it appears Dom isn't getting lynched. What is your opinion of Creature?
He was indifferent from like seventeen minutes into this.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:06 amMeh. Lynch the guy who wants to be lynched unless he decides otherwise? I’m indifferent.
So if it’s an act then he’ll see that he’s up for lynch and then stop being indifferent? And then he lynch him for that because that’s the scum? Or we just play chicken force him off the bridge.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:08 amHe was indifferent from like seventeen minutes into this.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:06 amMeh. Lynch the guy who wants to be lynched unless he decides otherwise? I’m indifferent.
It's a fucking act.
If Creature is your teammate, I'm sorry actually.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:11 amSo if it’s an act then he’ll see that he’s up for lynch and then stop being indifferent? And then he lynch him for that because that’s the scum? Or we just play chicken force him off the bridge.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:08 amHe was indifferent from like seventeen minutes into this.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:06 amMeh. Lynch the guy who wants to be lynched unless he decides otherwise? I’m indifferent.
It's a fucking act.
If I were w/w with creature Creature would be getting something different than the meh treatment.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:19 amIf Creature is your teammate, I'm sorry actually.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:11 amSo if it’s an act then he’ll see that he’s up for lynch and then stop being indifferent? And then he lynch him for that because that’s the scum? Or we just play chicken force him off the bridge.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:08 amHe was indifferent from like seventeen minutes into this.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:06 amMeh. Lynch the guy who wants to be lynched unless he decides otherwise? I’m indifferent.
It's a fucking act.
Rare time I use the word "actually."
I don't understand this.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:42 am Scum buckets:
Sprityo
Sabie
Creature
Dom
Dys
Drago
LC
Owner
Creature
Drago
Everyone else
I am willing to bet that of these four buckets each has at least one of the remaining mafia members. If I’m wrong which bucket doesn’t have one?
Oh I thought this was a clear exercise but then again I usually do and then everyone is confused. Of these four sets of players, I think there is 1(+) scum in each of the groups. If one group is not likely to have scum, which group would it be?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:45 amI don't understand this.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:42 am Scum buckets:
Sprityo
Sabie
Creature
Dom
Dys
Drago
LC
Owner
Creature
Drago
Everyone else
I am willing to bet that of these four buckets each has at least one of the remaining mafia members. If I’m wrong which bucket doesn’t have one?
How are the people in each bucket related to each other?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:49 amOh I thought this was a clear exercise but then again I usually do and then everyone is confused. Of these four sets of players, I think there is 1(+) scum in each of the groups. If one group is not likely to have scum, which group would it be?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:45 amI don't understand this.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:42 am Scum buckets:
Sprityo
Sabie
Creature
Dom
Dys
Drago
LC
Owner
Creature
Drago
Everyone else
I am willing to bet that of these four buckets each has at least one of the remaining mafia members. If I’m wrong which bucket doesn’t have one?
They’re cousinsJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:11 amHow are the people in each bucket related to each other?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:49 amOh I thought this was a clear exercise but then again I usually do and then everyone is confused. Of these four sets of players, I think there is 1(+) scum in each of the groups. If one group is not likely to have scum, which group would it be?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:45 amI don't understand this.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:42 am Scum buckets:
Sprityo
Sabie
Creature
Dom
Dys
Drago
LC
Owner
Creature
Drago
Everyone else
I am willing to bet that of these four buckets each has at least one of the remaining mafia members. If I’m wrong which bucket doesn’t have one?![]()
I tend to agree Owner and Creature aren’t teamed for that.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:05 am My bucket probably has scum in it.
I thought it was ...goddammit... interesting that Owner put the vote on Tony and Creature followed suit, and then it turned around later with Creature putting a vote on me, and Owner following suit. I don't know if baddies sheep each other like that, especially when the situation isn't dire.
I predict a Creature lynch, but his disengagement makes him hard to read. I don't have to vote yet.
Ok I understand now, thanks. I took a look at her ISO and it seems odd she didn't post more between the time she came back from vacation where she talks about not having internet (Aug 2) and yesterday.
Works for me. Quin 1.0 suspected sabie. Not the hardest thing to believe that sabie is bad and deviated from a 'kill active posters' strategy to get rid of him.
Nothing. Haven't analyzed them.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:32 pmWhat's your thoughts on the other wagons, Creature, Dom and Tony?
Well, I'm not really that kinda player to be deeply into influencing other player's reads. I've also been apathetic and really lacked any heart to actually get deep into shit. No Rej was not playing his civ meta. He was t playing any meta. He doesn't have one. He's all-around weird as both alignments.juliets wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:22 pm @Dragomir I saw your response to Dyslexicon regarding there was nothing personal in your not answering his question, but I'm still not understanding why you didn't have more to say about Rej. As I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong) you and he have a strong mafia relationship in that you mentored him when he first started playing and know his game well. I would expect you to be very involved in discussion about his being scum or civ but all I saw in your ISO was your vote for him and the post Dizzy quoted. Why didn't you have more to say? Did you not recognize his civ meta? Or was he off? Anything you can tell me about this would be helpful.
It is time for me to go to bed but I'm going to vote for Creature before I go. Creature, you may have no interest in this game at all (and I'm sad if that is true) but I have to go by what I see and what I see looks like your scum meta. If you're not bad I hope you'll get with it and show us.
So you haven't missed me?
I really don't know how to feel about this wifom. Think I'm going to follow my first instinct on you which is town. /shrugfacetimmer wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:18 pmI'll actually answer this, lol. When I'm bad I tend to be pretty invested in a game, and the last game I played we had a whole set of deliberate "fucking phone god dammit" stuff I was doing, because a teammate was going to impersonate me in a chatroom and it was going to be glorious. But then they died.
I say this because yeah I do sometimes pull shit when I'm bad, but as some kind of fakery my case on juliets would be the lamest idea I ever had.
And juliets thanks for the reply!
What bucket am I in?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:47 am One bucket is LC and the people on LC. One bucket is the scummy players who have contributed a lot to the game and have interactions that are prohibitive to all three being scum. One bucket is the skaters. Between those three buckets are the eight players I think are most likely to be scum. On a rough probability scale the other 6 sum to over 50 percent likelihood of scum so I threw that in as the fourth group.
This seems faulty to me, cause you're assuming Sabie specifically would be the one to decide the kills which seems unlikely if she's been gone most of the game, unless she's SK. I don't remember anything from Sabie, and if she flips town it doesn't give us anything. Same for Sprit. Though I do want both to actually post.
This post is pretty much the only one with content. Pink is kind of sketchy though, cause this was D2 and I think only me and Rej had flipped at that point. So "a lot of her reads" seems like saying more reads, but only two had flipped.sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:59 am I apologize I dont have much service where I am on vacation.
The case on Lunalee makes sense and I could also see nutella being bad. They both are notoriously difficult to read at times. Lunas response to the suspicion on her was that she is busy and had a lot going on and messed up which is perhaps possible. Nutella response is to get really defensive.
In looking at Luna she originally seemed to be defending rej but then last second votes him openly admitting she just randomly voted because she thought he maybe had one sketchy post which she sort of wasn't really suspicious of initially. Ehhhh It's not a good look even if she is busy.
Nutella has been wrong on a lot of her reads so far but it is in her nature to kinda move around with the flow of the thread. I'm not sold on her being town as of yet but I feel the Luna case is more compelling.
[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine
That is a delicious find, I think sabie might have given away too much by saying that. She's bad, and she knows exactly how many reads nutella has been wrong about, with or without flips. Furthermore, when we lynch sabie and she's bad, it might even give us more insight through re-reading nutella's early reads. Maybe Civ points to those she suspected? That could be going too far though; sabie is capable of misdirecting us to believe nutella had wrong reads, when they were right. I'm using way too many napklnsDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:23 am Sabie has 6 posts in the entire game.
This post is pretty much the only one with content. Pink is kind of sketchy though, cause this was D2 and I think only me and Rej had flipped at that point. So "a lot of her reads" seems like saying more reads, but only two had flipped.sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:59 am I apologize I dont have much service where I am on vacation.
The case on Lunalee makes sense and I could also see nutella being bad. They both are notoriously difficult to read at times. Lunas response to the suspicion on her was that she is busy and had a lot going on and messed up which is perhaps possible. Nutella response is to get really defensive.
In looking at Luna she originally seemed to be defending rej but then last second votes him openly admitting she just randomly voted because she thought he maybe had one sketchy post which she sort of wasn't really suspicious of initially. Ehhhh It's not a good look even if she is busy.
Nutella has been wrong on a lot of her reads so far but it is in her nature to kinda move around with the flow of the thread. I'm not sold on her being town as of yet but I feel the Luna case is more compelling.
[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine
That's what I thought that it may be a slip of TMI. But if sabie is scum I don't know if I want to put too much stock in following a nutella read trail.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:56 amThat is a delicious find, I think sabie might have given away too much by saying that. She's bad, and she knows exactly how many reads nutella has been wrong about, with or without flips. Furthermore, when we lynch sabie and she's bad, it might even give us more insight through re-reading nutella's early reads. Maybe Civ points to those she suspected? That could be going too far though; sabie is capable of misdirecting us to believe nutella had wrong reads, when they were right. I'm using way too many napklnsDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:23 am Sabie has 6 posts in the entire game.
This post is pretty much the only one with content. Pink is kind of sketchy though, cause this was D2 and I think only me and Rej had flipped at that point. So "a lot of her reads" seems like saying more reads, but only two had flipped.sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:59 am I apologize I dont have much service where I am on vacation.
The case on Lunalee makes sense and I could also see nutella being bad. They both are notoriously difficult to read at times. Lunas response to the suspicion on her was that she is busy and had a lot going on and messed up which is perhaps possible. Nutella response is to get really defensive.
In looking at Luna she originally seemed to be defending rej but then last second votes him openly admitting she just randomly voted because she thought he maybe had one sketchy post which she sort of wasn't really suspicious of initially. Ehhhh It's not a good look even if she is busy.
Nutella has been wrong on a lot of her reads so far but it is in her nature to kinda move around with the flow of the thread. I'm not sold on her being town as of yet but I feel the Luna case is more compelling.
[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine
Yeah I don't get it at allJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:04 pm Sabie looks bad but not as bad as Creature.
Honestly, Tony’s bucket thing looks pretty bad. Seems like the kinda thing I’d come up with to justify stupid reads.
“I arbitrarily guessed there are +1 scum in this arbitrary bucket. Therefore *bad vote*”
...like a dick on a donkey!
I don't follow this. o.o Sabie and Nut teamed would mean Sabie was recruited N1? I guess it's possible as Sabie voted Luna over Nut, but that wasn't really my point. Do we have 1 SK AND another hidden role left? I counted 9 town left now, but I thought we were 10
So by deduction I should be in "the scummy players who have contributed a lot", but nowhere in your ISO do I find any reference to you scum reading or sussing Sloonmeister, and you have not expressed a scum read on me either. You also have a direct comparison to Dizzy.01. So what's scummy about me?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:47 am One bucket is LC and the people on LC. One bucket is the scummy players who have contributed a lot to the game and have interactions that are prohibitive to all three being scum. One bucket is the skaters. Between those three buckets are the eight players I think are most likely to be scum. On a rough probability scale the other 6 sum to over 50 percent likelihood of scum so I threw that in as the fourth group.
Raisins?