Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:43 pm
btsc?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:40 pmNo you are posting in waves and it makes me think you have btsc
btsc?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:40 pmNo you are posting in waves and it makes me think you have btsc
dragomir and Benson but they both pinged me since I put them in there so I've been having doubtsMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:47 pmWhich two are in your town circle?
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:05 pmOkay, jokes aside for one moment. :v is generally meant to be a joking manner or tone, so when I was saying Hyena is pinned it was meant to be a joke.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 pmSuper don’t like this on principle for half a dozen reasons but I think the data would show that town tries to set up lynch chains like this more than scum does. I cannot tell you how many times I build a case off something like this and it’s complete garbage because WIFOM scum knows better than to put themselves in that trap. However when combined with the “Eva raises a good point” thing I’m still inclined to call it a very scummy post.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:50 pmSorry mate, you've been pinned. :vHyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:47 pmNo uEvenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:45 pm[VOTE: Hyena] aubergineHyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:34 pmRight here. :PSpiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:54 pm
@PawnLelouch (hopefully that has no spaces, if it does i give up on tagging) not to repeat d1 of finals, but what's your read on Eva rn? I see that you are in more heat than she is but I am far from caught up and left before you showed up at all.
(via Google translate) "Pawn has more heat, so let me give my scum partner, who I'm townreading, a chance to be towny by talking about Eva right now."
This spiny case is bullshit and I don't see what you're doing otherwise. Also you dropped off the Epi vote super fast as soon as it started to gain traction.
That ain't a hyena, it's a wolf.
And yeah, if you are scum then Epi is a major source to look at tomorrow. Eva raises a good point on wagon momentum.
However, I already independently scum read Hyena at this point considering my vote on him. So while while it is a joke, there is undertones of my belief scattered through it.
And on the lynch train idea? Hell no, I don't ever finalize lynches a day beforehand. Actually auoting out lynches is how town loses games.
That was me pointing out a conditional associative based on something that another player pointed out, that once I saw, I agreed with.
You really are playing like your spec chat loliaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:48 pmdragomir and Benson but they both pinged me since I put them in there so I've been having doubtsMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:47 pmWhich two are in your town circle?
my day 1 reads end up being every possible read in the game but I'll be right at some point
That's a strong thing to say. I went out for Halloween last night and spent what time I could today catching up. Got to page 18 before going out for our daughter's birthday dinner, and now there's 29 pages. You guys talk too much.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 pm@Long Con made the first post of the game, which is a shitty weird pile of poo and has posted nothing since. He can eat shit.
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Happy birthday to your daughter.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:55 pmThat's a strong thing to say. I went out for Halloween last night and spent what time I could today catching up. Got to page 18 before going out for our daughter's birthday dinner, and now there's 29 pages. You guys talk too much.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 pm@Long Con made the first post of the game, which is a shitty weird pile of poo and has posted nothing since. He can eat shit.
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Please restate your responses to 1 and 2. Also, any actual replies to 3 and 4?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:34 pm1 - I addressed.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:28 pm Since Mac apparently refuses to read my earlier posts, here's the case all laid out in one place for easy reference:
1: Defends Jack for no apparent reason really early, feels the need to go digging for a game to back him up. Answers his own leading question in the process. Jack/Mac W/W?
2: No energy/fire, tone badly off. Letting two scumreads get under his skin when he's usually more resilient than that.
3: Severe lack of game content, directly stating his intent to not produce more until people start townreading him. This is not town behavior.
4: Didn't vote me until I directly fucking challenged him to. Tried to get Nanook to vote me first. No balls.
5: Just in general gives the impression he's scared to be lynched. Mac in WC1 deliberately looked scummy D1, and he was still townier than this.
2 - I addressed.
3 - This is the first time you said this.
4 - This is the first time you said this.
5 - Well that's like your opinion and how am I meant to rebuke it? It's a bad faith argument to make that point and at the same time goad me into defending myself.
It's like;
"Why are you reacting to every suspicion Mac!"
Mac memes and ignores Evenstar.
"Why won't you answer me Mac!"
Mac answers her.
"Ha, see, scared of being lynched."
It's bullshit case making. At best bad tunneling. Probably just the same irrational scum hunting you tried to pull in wc1 on me.
Nah his backtrack on you is quite townie imo.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:45 pm Hyena is mafia. I have posted nothing in this to be spared a Day 1 lynch. That I came in and pissed on the carpet doesn't mean shit. I don't even know if I believe if 112 is a civilian. I just wrote stuff.
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Hmmmmm.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:05 pm 1. I didn't defend Jack for no apparent reason. I have observed jack FPS read Creature town before and initially thought that it might be a scumtell so I went to check whether it was from a scum game but found it was an indy game.
2. I fully expected this game to be chill. Several people said they were gonna phone it in and have fun. I didn't anticipate getting attacked for being relaxed and was not mentally prepared for it. I prepared myself for the champs games. Those are not my usual mode at all. I rarely if ever top post in games on here. Also I have been phone posting and it's been the weekend and I've been trying to enjoy my beers, bbq and pool time while playing. I was frustrated because people were suspecting me for irrational reason on day 0 when I didn't want to have to take this game seriously. I can't help myself sometimes though.
3. I ... don't think this is actually true?
4. How does this make me scum? You are making such basic reads. I can vote for whoever I want, whenever I want. All that matters is where my vote ends up. This is why i think you are bad. You are not considering your opinions, you are just making them.
How did I not know you had a daughter?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:55 pmThat's a strong thing to say. I went out for Halloween last night and spent what time I could today catching up. Got to page 18 before going out for our daughter's birthday dinner, and now there's 29 pages. You guys talk too much.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 pm@Long Con made the first post of the game, which is a shitty weird pile of poo and has posted nothing since. He can eat shit.
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:17 pmHmmmmm.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:05 pm 1. I didn't defend Jack for no apparent reason. I have observed jack FPS read Creature town before and initially thought that it might be a scumtell so I went to check whether it was from a scum game but found it was an indy game.
2. I fully expected this game to be chill. Several people said they were gonna phone it in and have fun. I didn't anticipate getting attacked for being relaxed and was not mentally prepared for it. I prepared myself for the champs games. Those are not my usual mode at all. I rarely if ever top post in games on here. Also I have been phone posting and it's been the weekend and I've been trying to enjoy my beers, bbq and pool time while playing. I was frustrated because people were suspecting me for irrational reason on day 0 when I didn't want to have to take this game seriously. I can't help myself sometimes though.
3. I ... don't think this is actually true?
4. How does this make me scum? You are making such basic reads. I can vote for whoever I want, whenever I want. All that matters is where my vote ends up. This is why i think you are bad. You are not considering your opinions, you are just making them.
[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine
What do you really know about me?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:19 pmHow did I not know you had a daughter?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:55 pmThat's a strong thing to say. I went out for Halloween last night and spent what time I could today catching up. Got to page 18 before going out for our daughter's birthday dinner, and now there's 29 pages. You guys talk too much.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 pm@Long Con made the first post of the game, which is a shitty weird pile of poo and has posted nothing since. He can eat shit.
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Oh I didn’t know you were old is all.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:22 pmWhat do you really know about me?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:19 pmHow did I not know you had a daughter?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:55 pmThat's a strong thing to say. I went out for Halloween last night and spent what time I could today catching up. Got to page 18 before going out for our daughter's birthday dinner, and now there's 29 pages. You guys talk too much.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 pm@Long Con made the first post of the game, which is a shitty weird pile of poo and has posted nothing since. He can eat shit.
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergineTechnically stepdaughter, Black Rock had Victoria when she was 19, she was 6 when BR and I got together, and she just turned 21. We have two sons together, aged 7 and 10.
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I liked your post saying I pinged you. seemed natural. I think if scum wanted to push me you would've given at least one reason.
Well, don't be so hasty, I'm putting together a post with some of the reasons.iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:25 pmI liked your post saying I pinged you. seemed natural. I think if scum wanted to push me you would've given at least one reason.
also scum tend to see my overall game as Towny and tend to tmi me town more than vaguely sus me
before that, I also mildly liked you saying we post too much. I think town say that more than scum by some amount relative to rand% or whatever.
it's too late I'm townreading you forever now get rektLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:26 pmWell, don't be so hasty, I'm putting together a post with some of the reasons.iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:25 pmI liked your post saying I pinged you. seemed natural. I think if scum wanted to push me you would've given at least one reason.
also scum tend to see my overall game as Towny and tend to tmi me town more than vaguely sus me
before that, I also mildly liked you saying we post too much. I think town say that more than scum by some amount relative to rand% or whatever.
I'm the same age as BR. How old am I?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:23 pmOh I didn’t know you were old is all.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:22 pmWhat do you really know about me?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:19 pmHow did I not know you had a daughter?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:55 pmThat's a strong thing to say. I went out for Halloween last night and spent what time I could today catching up. Got to page 18 before going out for our daughter's birthday dinner, and now there's 29 pages. You guys talk too much.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 pm@Long Con made the first post of the game, which is a shitty weird pile of poo and has posted nothing since. He can eat shit.
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergineTechnically stepdaughter, Black Rock had Victoria when she was 19, she was 6 when BR and I got together, and she just turned 21. We have two sons together, aged 7 and 10.
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Should I finish doing that post, or are you going to concede and save me the trouble?iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:27 pmit's too late I'm townreading you forever now get rektLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:26 pmWell, don't be so hasty, I'm putting together a post with some of the reasons.iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:25 pmI liked your post saying I pinged you. seemed natural. I think if scum wanted to push me you would've given at least one reason.
also scum tend to see my overall game as Towny and tend to tmi me town more than vaguely sus me
before that, I also mildly liked you saying we post too much. I think town say that more than scum by some amount relative to rand% or whatever.
Where are you at with Drago? I remember you said he was pinging you since you put him down as villa but I can remember if you said why or notiaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:27 pmit's too late I'm townreading you forever now get rektLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:26 pmWell, don't be so hasty, I'm putting together a post with some of the reasons.iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:25 pmI liked your post saying I pinged you. seemed natural. I think if scum wanted to push me you would've given at least one reason.
also scum tend to see my overall game as Towny and tend to tmi me town more than vaguely sus me
before that, I also mildly liked you saying we post too much. I think town say that more than scum by some amount relative to rand% or whatever.
Like 6 years older than me but until I turn 40, 40 is old. Once I turn 40, old moves to 60 until further notice.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:27 pmI'm the same age as BR. How old am I?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:23 pmOh I didn’t know you were old is all.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:22 pmWhat do you really know about me?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:19 pmHow did I not know you had a daughter?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:55 pmThat's a strong thing to say. I went out for Halloween last night and spent what time I could today catching up. Got to page 18 before going out for our daughter's birthday dinner, and now there's 29 pages. You guys talk too much.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 pm@Long Con made the first post of the game, which is a shitty weird pile of poo and has posted nothing since. He can eat shit.
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergineTechnically stepdaughter, Black Rock had Victoria when she was 19, she was 6 when BR and I got together, and she just turned 21. We have two sons together, aged 7 and 10.
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I don't feel old yet. Nothing aches regularly, and I still like immature stuff like comic books and Mafia.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:29 pmLike 6 years older than me but until I turn 40, 40 is old. Once I turn 40, old moves to 60 until further notice.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:27 pmI'm the same age as BR. How old am I?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:23 pmOh I didn’t know you were old is all.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:22 pmWhat do you really know about me?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:19 pmHow did I not know you had a daughter?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:55 pmThat's a strong thing to say. I went out for Halloween last night and spent what time I could today catching up. Got to page 18 before going out for our daughter's birthday dinner, and now there's 29 pages. You guys talk too much.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 pm
@Long Con made the first post of the game, which is a shitty weird pile of poo and has posted nothing since. He can eat shit.
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergineTechnically stepdaughter, Black Rock had Victoria when she was 19, she was 6 when BR and I got together, and she just turned 21. We have two sons together, aged 7 and 10.
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i mean im town so if you have any other scumreads your time is better spent thereLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:28 pmShould I finish doing that post, or are you going to concede and save me the trouble?iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:27 pmit's too late I'm townreading you forever now get rektLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:26 pmWell, don't be so hasty, I'm putting together a post with some of the reasons.iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:25 pmI liked your post saying I pinged you. seemed natural. I think if scum wanted to push me you would've given at least one reason.
also scum tend to see my overall game as Towny and tend to tmi me town more than vaguely sus me
before that, I also mildly liked you saying we post too much. I think town say that more than scum by some amount relative to rand% or whatever.
I thought it was weird when right after Eva made her case against Mac, Drago popped in just to tell us he *had* a case against Mac but didn't have time to write it all out. It was like he wanted to get on the wagon early for whatever reason.iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:30 pmi mean im town so if you have any other scumreads your time is better spent thereLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:28 pmShould I finish doing that post, or are you going to concede and save me the trouble?iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:27 pmit's too late I'm townreading you forever now get rektLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:26 pmWell, don't be so hasty, I'm putting together a post with some of the reasons.iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:25 pmI liked your post saying I pinged you. seemed natural. I think if scum wanted to push me you would've given at least one reason.
also scum tend to see my overall game as Towny and tend to tmi me town more than vaguely sus me
before that, I also mildly liked you saying we post too much. I think town say that more than scum by some amount relative to rand% or whatever.
also @benson i dont remember what pinged me about drago
something something activity patterns something something his aggression is a bit too pointed and gave me some scum vibes at times...? felt like he was pushing where i sussed...? idk man
for how not into this game i am i really should be posting less
Ah tis the bloodthirsty oneBenson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:23 pm I'm still exploring the wolf-Mac world, but the casing from Eva against him is pretty over-the-top. Like I get it's probably for pressure purposes but it kinda feels like a slander attempt. I wanna see dueling Eva vs Mac wagons today, even if just for the theatrics xD
Everyone has been dropping townreads like candy. My townreads actually have to be earned. I have none to declare yet.iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:33 pm oh yeah heres the bonding exercise / thought experiment i wanted to start yesterday
@everyone
1. who is your top townread and why
2. of your top townreads reads, which do you agree with most? why? do you trust that read more than you trust your own townread of them?
3. @ your top townread with the reads of theirs that you agree with and disagree with to facilitate working among mutual townreads
im feeling dead inside so im not starting off
i wont be offended if nobody does this, i just thought it was a kinda cool idea
Wait wait.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:37 pm I have hit the wall. I'll be more coherent in the morning but here are some thoughts running around in my head -
- I still lean town on Mac.
- I'm seeing a completely different Eva than the one I saw in WC1 though I only picked up starting mid day 2 in that game. I don't think one of she or Mac has to be scum in this game.
- I am leading town on Drago, I'm sure I can point out some reasons why but it will have to wait until tomorrow, though obviously I don't agree with his vote on Mac.
- Seems like one of 112 or Benson must be scum since they both say they accurately read each other and they both say the other is bad. I guess they could both be scum but I doubt it. Right now I have a clearer picture of 112 as town.
- Not understanding the votes for Epi except what hyena explained about his vote. Will look more closely at this in the morning.
- Reserving judgement on iaafr and hyena, I've been back and forth on both. Also reserving judgement on LC, he has fooled me SO many times but I know his weekends are usually taken up with family things and the food truck
- Reading sprityo as town after his last post.
I'm sure I will have other thoughts in the morning, there are just so many people to form opinions about.
Epi if you still need a favor just ping me in a post and I'll try to accommodate in the morning.
oh wow tons of linki - I'll have to read it tomorrow.
Evil players are generally more careful with making their posts look just right; town players usually play looser. This little oops shows the former mindset.
Is this going to bear fruit, or is it just a line?
Ok... so nothing is going to "become obvious" then?
This "personality mindmeld" feels like the mother of all waffling backtracky blahs or something. No... It feels like w/w pre-apology. Overcomplicated forced opinion reasons. Why do I dislike it? I'm a little brain-tired from last night but I tried to put it into words.iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:54 pm but it rly could just be me mindmelding with 112s personality rather than alignment and not doing so with mac and nutella etc
but uh 112s personality here is like my town personality and the timing of that question of that read on nutella and mac was like
its a question id have already asked in this gamestate if i were in a more tryhard/contentforcey mentality
i make posts to psych myself up sometimes like when i actually feel like im gonna have a good town gamei don't understand the purpose of 112 saying that thing in the first place
idk
i relate to the sentiment and find it towny