The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:58 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:58 am Static reads are not a bad thing if they're good reads

And if they aren't good reads they aren't worth making

I'm aware this is hypocritical after literally just saying I was throwing out bad reads, idgaf

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:59 am**

I play one damned Mafia game, and here I am again awake at 4am.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:59 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:58 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:55 am @tutuu aside from me who has been defensive of you if anyone?
I think noone ur my last friend T_T

Oy

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:59 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:58 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:57 am after thinking about it more, i actually feel that alison's approach to reading my slot may be town indicative for her. i would need to re-read her to know for sure, but she could just be town
jess I wanna know why you town read me so bad....

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:59 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:58 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:55 am @tutuu aside from me who has been defensive of you if anyone?
I think noone ur my last friend T_T

Hmmm.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:00 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:58 am Static reads are not a bad thing if they're good reads

And if they aren't good reads they aren't worth making

I agreeee i think its better for town to carefully shoot ur revolver with ur reads. Well idk if its better but hot damn does it look cooler

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:00 am**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:59 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:58 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:57 am after thinking about it more, i actually feel that alison's approach to reading my slot may be town indicative for her. i would need to re-read her to know for sure, but she could just be town
jess I wanna know why you town read me so bad....

pleaseeeee????

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:00 am**

my brain is currently spinning a wheel and eventually it will land on the conclusion that one of tutuu/alison/spf is not town, but right now it's just... spinning.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:01 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:59 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:58 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:55 am @tutuu aside from me who has been defensive of you if anyone?
I think noone ur my last friend T_T
Oy

Oooooi sorryyy nookie sheepie fluffie fluffie wool sheepie nookie cuteee

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:01 am**

AL_sama wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:50 pm You apparently know Odd better than most of us. What can you tell us about him? How do you read him in this game so far?
he feels townish but take this with a grain of salt since its hard to use meta on him

the vibes I m getting from his posts so far are that he is trying to gather reads by saying blunt things

I really hate this read.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:02 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:00 am my brain is currently spinning a wheel and eventually it will land on the conclusion that one of tutuu/alison/spf is not town, but right now it's just... spinning.

I did it for you.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:02 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:56 am @KZA would you be willing to provide a full reads list, with or without explanations?

yes but I'm in bed so when I wake up

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:04 am**

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:02 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:56 am @KZA would you be willing to provide a full reads list, with or without explanations?
yes but I'm in bed so when I wake up

I would appreciate it.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:05 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:46 pm Town: JJJ, MacDougall, Nanook, Oddmerta, Sloonei, Strawhenge, falcon45ca

Light town: Esooa, fingersplints, BoKnows

Null: Dom, Michelle, Long Con, Marmot

Mixed: tutuu, staypositivefriedn

POE: AL_sama, JPIC, KZA, TonyStarkPrime, tedxtr

Here's where I'm at.

@JaggedJimmyJay @Sloonei @tutuu @Esooa @Michelle

You guys are on Alison duty. Here's the rules.

Alison's current readslist is >rand accurate regardless of alignment. Her reads must remain good and she must remain day in and day out responsible for the pelting of wolves to remain above the line.

The idea is that we force her into the light, or force her to kill her teammates.

If at any stage of the game after I am dead there are more than two consecutive town mislynches and if Alison is still alive, instantly kill her.

As it stands I believe she is town and expect she will self resolve early, but these are the runes. Use them wisely.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:06 am**

okay thanx

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am**

I think we go for the big game today. If Alison is town and her readslist is as accurate as I feel that it is we should flip TSP straight away.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am**

[VOTE: AL_sama] aubergine

Just seems like a decent candidate when I stare at my POE. Their reads on tutuu and Oddmerta look a bit cooked.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am I think we go for the big game today. If Alison is town and her readslist is as accurate as I feel that it is we should flip TSP straight away.

I could vibe

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am**

why big game over other people though?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am why big game over other people though?

Why do you think?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am why big game over other people though?
Why do you think?

you want to test her accuracy? That's the only goal of the chop? Meh

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am [VOTE: AL_sama] aubergine

Just seems like a decent candidate when I stare at my POE. Their reads on tutuu and Oddmerta look a bit cooked.

I think Al_sama is probably mafia but they are not who I want to be killing day 1.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:00 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:59 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:58 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:57 am after thinking about it more, i actually feel that alison's approach to reading my slot may be town indicative for her. i would need to re-read her to know for sure, but she could just be town
jess I wanna know why you town read me so bad....

pleaseeeee????

the short answer: you came back into the thread after a 12 hour absence and immediately started solving in a fluid, inquisitive way. the majority of your reads have aligned with the consensus - you are not trying to get towncred off of the stuff that youre saying - i think that you would ham up your vote on oddmerta a little more as a wolf instead of silently voting him and ~then~ explaining it once someone asked you about it, and youre also not trying (from what i can tell) to claw your way into the towncore, when i feel that you would have a vested interest in doing both of those things if you were a wolf

my brain is too tired to explain it more coherently than that atm

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 am**

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 am**

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:50 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:43 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:43 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:54 pm Reads are for nerds.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:57 pm Oh it's page 2 now. Alison is mafia.
Nice
what do you think of that
Sloonei is starting to ping me as scum
For the thing you just quoted, along with the setup speculation?

@tutuu you never responded when I first addressed you over this.

How is the above over elaborating? I'm pretty obviously just asking Falcon for clarification on his Sloonei read

You run in to thread yelling about how excited you are to be playing Mafia but this is your top scum read and basis for it? Really? I don't believe you.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am why big game over other people though?
Why do you think?
you want to test her accuracy? That's the only goal of the chop? Meh

No. I want the best deepwolf candidate in the POE resolved first before they get a foothold in the thread and start mowing down their adversaries and building the gamestate to favour themselves.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:10 am**

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:10 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:00 am my brain is currently spinning a wheel and eventually it will land on the conclusion that one of tutuu/alison/spf is not town, but right now it's just... spinning.

what's holding you back from townreading me?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:11 am**

I am willing to just give Alison my vote today tbh.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am why big game over other people though?
Why do you think?
you want to test her accuracy? That's the only goal of the chop? Meh
No. I want the best deepwolf candidate in the POE resolved first before they get a foothold in the thread and start mowing down their adversaries and building the gamestate to favour themselves.

eh

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 am**

All of my Oddmerta pings have been ++ so you definitely have a wolf on that wagon. Probably just one though.

@tedxtr @staypositivefriend have you guys met? Can you guys share reads and do some solving together for science?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:27 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:20 am Well that's a hell of a way to start a new page! Yeehaw!

Tell me about Oddmerta, ted and Esooa.
i thought his first few posts were pretty wolfy when i was itt

afaict he has trouble finding an actual tunnel for genuine reasons and from his iso I can't glean that he's actually reading the thread and assessing stuff like a villager would

from the few games we've played, i don't expect him to talk about someone like sloonei being scum and then voting somebody random like jpic, he seems to me more like the theory conspiracy guy. doesn't seem like he's using his votes in order to gather INTEL from his scum reads (especially sloonei)

the LC read I believe was straight up stolen from spf's call on alison - and that was probably the only villagery thing that i was willing to call slightly villagery in his iso, but it's most likely nothing

i don't like to type a lot of words, hope this manages to sum it up decently

My only thoughts on Odd so far is that he blatantly misrepresented me and said I dismissed day 0 reads which is not what I said at all. When I called him out on it, he has not responded.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 am All of my Oddmerta pings have been ++ so you definitely have a wolf on that wagon. Probably just one though.

@tedxtr @staypositivefriend have you guys met? Can you guys share reads and do some solving together for science?

what's ++ mean? Why not ping me, you just think I'm obv town or what lol? What's your read on me

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am**

I think Alison can resolve herself if we allow her to, whether by her role or otherwise. If she is mafia, I don't think she is in a winning position right now. So I am not terribly bothered at the moment.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am why big game over other people though?
Why do you think?
you want to test her accuracy? That's the only goal of the chop? Meh
No. I want the best deepwolf candidate in the POE resolved first before they get a foothold in the thread and start mowing down their adversaries and building the gamestate to favour themselves.
eh

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:04 am
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:02 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:56 am @KZA would you be willing to provide a full reads list, with or without explanations?
yes but I'm in bed so when I wake up
I would appreciate it.

to clarify I want to construct a rainbow reads list with lots of fun colours and I simply can't be bothered to do that without my computer mouse

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am why big game over other people though?
Why do you think?
you want to test her accuracy? That's the only goal of the chop? Meh
No. I want the best deepwolf candidate in the POE resolved first before they get a foothold in the thread and start mowing down their adversaries and building the gamestate to favour themselves.
eh

counter point: ego

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 am All of my Oddmerta pings have been ++ so you definitely have a wolf on that wagon. Probably just one though.

@tedxtr @staypositivefriend have you guys met? Can you guys share reads and do some solving together for science?
what's ++ mean? Why not ping me, you just think I'm obv town or what lol?

I think Oddmerta has been extremely towny and yes I think you are town.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:14 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am why big game over other people though?
Why do you think?
you want to test her accuracy? That's the only goal of the chop? Meh
No. I want the best deepwolf candidate in the POE resolved first before they get a foothold in the thread and start mowing down their adversaries and building the gamestate to favour themselves.
eh

counter point: ego

You aren't even being rational so I am going to assume you are quite drunk right now.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:14 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 am All of my Oddmerta pings have been ++ so you definitely have a wolf on that wagon. Probably just one though.

@tedxtr @staypositivefriend have you guys met? Can you guys share reads and do some solving together for science?
what's ++ mean? Why not ping me, you just think I'm obv town or what lol?
I think Oddmerta has been extremely towny and yes I think you are town.

why

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:14 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:14 am
You aren't even being rational so I am going to assume you are quite drunk right now.

no I'm just a bitch

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:15 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am I think Alison can resolve herself if we allow her to, whether by her role or otherwise. If she is mafia, I don't think she is in a winning position right now. So I am not terribly bothered at the moment.

I think she is just town though. Her reads have been enemy creating, not friend making and salient. No mafia agenda that I perceive. Only agenda to solve and to get her reads out.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:15 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:14 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 am All of my Oddmerta pings have been ++ so you definitely have a wolf on that wagon. Probably just one though.

@tedxtr @staypositivefriend have you guys met? Can you guys share reads and do some solving together for science?
what's ++ mean? Why not ping me, you just think I'm obv town or what lol?
I think Oddmerta has been extremely towny and yes I think you are town.
why

You're a real hard read but I guess I am just really good.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 am All of my Oddmerta pings have been ++ so you definitely have a wolf on that wagon. Probably just one though.

@tedxtr @staypositivefriend have you guys met? Can you guys share reads and do some solving together for science?

you must not know me at all

we played in a mash and she conned me into a lifelong friendship, we're besties

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:15 am You're a real hard read but I guess I am just really good.

you're soooo good mac, please teach me more please, I am honored to be your student

Also I think tbh my scum game is a bit behind my town game, I've been spending like an entire month playing town only almost and trying to get better and I think I've done it well

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:14 am You aren't even being rational so I am going to assume you are quite drunk right now.

I don't care about any proposed strategy beyond "eliminate the most likely mafioso every day until town wins". Picking and choosing suspects based upon thread posture rather than degree of suspicion is not a business I care to engage in with rare exception. Tony may end up being that player today. He's in my POE too. We'll see how the phase develops.

And I have seven best civilian awards across three websites, so

.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:17 am**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:38 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:36 pm [VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine
Reasoning? Is it because he didn't answer your question?

This post is extremely meaningful. But what does it mean!?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:17 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:15 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am I think Alison can resolve herself if we allow her to, whether by her role or otherwise. If she is mafia, I don't think she is in a winning position right now. So I am not terribly bothered at the moment.
I think she is just town though. Her reads have been enemy creating, not friend making and salient. No mafia agenda that I perceive. Only agenda to solve and to get her reads out.

Generally I agree.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:18 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:15 am You're a real hard read but I guess I am just really good.
you're soooo good mac, please teach me more please, I am honored to be your student

Also I think tbh my scum game is a bit behind my town game, I've been spending like an entire month playing town only almost and trying to get better and I think I've done it well

When you have a correct ez town read on Mac the correct course of action is usually to just sheep me til the mafia kill me not "eh" my ideas.

You've got a lot to learn kiddo.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:18 am**

Why does BoKnows, known passive participant in forum mafia, choose a random Jay vote on TSP to question? Does it make TSP town or his mafia teammate? One things for sure is it makes Bo mafia lol.

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