The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:09 am**

Instantly suspicious of anyone who doesn't vote to tie any lynch btw.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:09 am**

mac and quin get it. sloonei's approaching getting it. truthbombers unite.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:10 am**

wilgy is orthogonal to truth

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:10 am**

Hello my wonderful players. Day 1 has mostly commenced. I sent out all the new squares for movement PMs, went through the roles to give info to roles that need it, like Blind Seer for instance. If you are expecting something that I haven't done, please let me know. The game will run more smoothly as I get some standards, checklists, and automation in place, but these will be developed over the first couple of days, so don't have any qualms about reminding me you need something.

A couple of players have not yet picked up their role PMs, and they and a few more didn't give a Night 0 movement. There may be some lenience and late movement if those players get with the program, but only because we're just getting started.

If your role gives you any information on who's in what square (like the Kraken, Blind Seer, Savage Pixie, etc), then you may be notified of a change if I let some late folks still move.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:10 am**

Ties are fun!

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:14 am**

Don't pot your chicken before it's pie

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:17 am**

Lukewarm Day 1 Take #1: The three players with Q in their names are three different alignments.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:21 am**

I'm so on it you guys. My whimstinct is off the charts. I'm playing this game by the tip of my nose with the wind at my back on the seat of my pants and I'm feeling luck in the air tonight. Catch me dropping more hot prepositional phrases later and remember to trust everything I say because I have never felt so confident that I know what's going on when I know that I absolutely have no idea what the hell is going on. And if you're not on my wavelength the resonance is gonna hurt your ears so jot that down.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:54 am**

Please note that the map grid in the first post has been updated to the current state of the map. It had been an older version. It went from this:

...to this:

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:15 am**

btw i decided i have a truth meta now

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:56 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:17 am Lukewarm Day 1 Take #1: The three players with Q in their names are three different alignments.

wwg1wga

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:02 am**

Well I guess that could go either way depending on if the 3 players are randomly chosen and end up being civ or if they come from different sides.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:09 am**

Yay for changeable votes! And now we know the night polls have tangible results, and we found out in a way that is not actively harmful so long as we try to avoid ties, as DH says. Good on us.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:27 pm @@sabie12 you've talked quite a bit about the different poll options and ended up going with "The Honourable Tribunal". Care to walk us through your thought process on that?

Why did this vote stand out to you, when several other people engaged in discussion of what the options could mean, and some just voted with no real engagement at all? I am not trying to put you on the defensive, I really want to know. This post surprised me.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:15 am I'm going to be voting DDL tomorrow.

The speculation over the roles is an act to get involved.

Now go.

I had had that thought as well, that "helpful civ" post ftw. I may or may not have time to read his posts in prior games this weekend, leaning "not", so shortcut; people with more recent DDL experience than I, is that kind of role analysis a norm for civ DDL?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:09 am mac and quin get it. sloonei's approaching getting it. truthbombers unite.

I am old and unhip and haven't played for a year or so. What does this mean?

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:59 am**

Eek! Sorry to have missed night 0. Totally missed that I had a pm. Thank you dear host for letting me know!!! Just got on an airplane. Will check in again in a couple of hours.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:27 am**

OK....I got wifi on the plane...

Can I suggest that we change the vote word from aubergine to something that is not one of the role names? I mean, if the point is to be easily searched, then it seems to me it would make it easier if it were a word that isn't likely to come up. Also, lol to the hosts for putting that in there.

@LC @BR: Is the difference in the map from earlier to current based on a host correction, or based on night 0 activity?

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:55 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:07 pm pichu is good in this game

How

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:04 am**

Nutella is fluffing so hard this game I almost think she has a curse.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:04 am**

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:15 am btw i decided i have a truth meta now

You bad?

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:06 am**

I normally don't analyse roles too deeply at once but I'm normally not given a list of 28 roles that I'm supposed to figure out the alignment of so that really incited my curiosity.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:08 am**

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:09 am Yay for changeable votes! And now we know the night polls have tangible results, and we found out in a way that is not actively harmful so long as we try to avoid ties, as DH says. Good on us.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:27 pm @@sabie12 you've talked quite a bit about the different poll options and ended up going with "The Honourable Tribunal". Care to walk us through your thought process on that?
Why did this vote stand out to you, when several other people engaged in discussion of what the options could mean, and some just voted with no real engagement at all? I am not trying to put you on the defensive, I really want to know. This post surprised me.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:15 am I'm going to be voting DDL tomorrow.

The speculation over the roles is an act to get involved.

Now go.
I had had that thought as well, that "helpful civ" post ftw. I may or may not have time to read his posts in prior games this weekend, leaning "not", so shortcut; people with more recent DDL experience than I, is that kind of role analysis a norm for civ DDL?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:09 am mac and quin get it. sloonei's approaching getting it. truthbombers unite.
I am old and unhip and haven't played for a year or so. What does this mean?

I also was wondering some of these same things. Like why I was questioned for my choice in particular when most people just kinda picked because they liked the option. And others also were trying yo figure it out. We didnt know what any of those things were so I just kinda speculated as to what they might mean.

And I also must be old and unhip and I don't know what those things mean either haha.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:10 am**

Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:51 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:39 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:21 pm These poll options seem quite meaningless.

Are people voting randomly or what?
The Tribunal of Judgment is from A World Apart, it was three civvies with BTSC plus a lynch switch and pardon. Seems pro-town imo
Sounds good. Why didn't you mention this when you voted?

I actually liked Tranq for this post. He made a good point on TH and I tend to trust people who hunt at super early game when nobody else is hunting. Not gonna put my vote here. Might put on TH.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:12 am**

He also made some posts before that that looked like trying to figure people out.

I mean it could be forced especially in a game with two mafias but I tend to see it as unecessary risk for a baddie.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:24 am**

LoRab wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:27 am OK....I got wifi on the plane...

Can I suggest that we change the vote word from aubergine to something that is not one of the role names? I mean, if the point is to be easily searched, then it seems to me it would make it easier if it were a word that isn't likely to come up. Also, lol to the hosts for putting that in there.

@LC @BR: Is the difference in the map from earlier to current based on a host correction, or based on night 0 activity?

The only difference I noticed was the trees/forest are more pronounced

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:26 am**

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:24 am
LoRab wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:27 am OK....I got wifi on the plane...

Can I suggest that we change the vote word from aubergine to something that is not one of the role names? I mean, if the point is to be easily searched, then it seems to me it would make it easier if it were a word that isn't likely to come up. Also, lol to the hosts for putting that in there.

@LC @BR: Is the difference in the map from earlier to current based on a host correction, or based on night 0 activity?
The only difference I noticed was the trees/forest are more pronounced

It looks like theres also a couple of bridges that werent there before.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:34 am**

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:09 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:09 am mac and quin get it. sloonei's approaching getting it. truthbombers unite.
I am old and unhip and haven't played for a year or so. What does this mean?

I've been playing and don't understand what it means either. Im also old and unhip though.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:38 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:18 am Good news! Votes are indeed changeable, and I put mine on Tranq. Aubergine.

Sloonei, sorry if I missed your reasoning but what did you see about Tranq that made you put a vote on him?

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:39 am**

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:26 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:24 am
LoRab wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:27 am OK....I got wifi on the plane...

Can I suggest that we change the vote word from aubergine to something that is not one of the role names? I mean, if the point is to be easily searched, then it seems to me it would make it easier if it were a word that isn't likely to come up. Also, lol to the hosts for putting that in there.

@LC @BR: Is the difference in the map from earlier to current based on a host correction, or based on night 0 activity?
The only difference I noticed was the trees/forest are more pronounced
It looks like theres also a couple of bridges that werent there before.

Good eye - I totally missed that.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:53 am**

all ive accomplished so far this game is laugh at this for some reason

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:54 am**

Flower petal thing on G4 is new too

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:56 am**

I have a mechanics question for [mention]Long Con[/mention] or [mention]Black Rock[/mention]:

What does this mean (from BR's post about game rules):

A player may call out once, revealing their identity, through the Host with a PM.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:58 am**

I didn’t say what I voted for but it was the Become More, sorry.

I like Epi’s post re: DDL’s role speculation.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:09 am**

For the people that haven't played with me im Brennan and my favorite color is blue

If anyone can provide me some insight, I've only refreshed myself on a handful of roles and the dream splicer seems really confusing. Since the Splicer has basically 2 clones following him around, does using an action on a clone kill it/indicate that it is a fake? (In other words, if a player stumbles upon the Dream Splicer, are actions against the clones basically considered to be a roleblock/ability fail since they don't target the actual player?)

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:19 am**

this is my attempt at trying to be useful

the north murder woods/jungle were added (pink)
the west lego ruins jungle (red)

bridge over troubled water (yellow north central)
bridge 2 (apparently no one can swim - south west)

Maybe the bridges then are made to nerf the water characters and the extra forests are made to nerf land units with too high mobility?
Idk ill go with that

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:48 am**

Hmm good, we've started actually playing.

Epi, you still feeling DDL?

SVS could be obliquely defending sabie or poking Sloonei. Not a big fan of sabie's response.

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] want to trust team? Coming back to a 30 player fancy game is intimidating and I need to find a handhold somewhere.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:49 am**

Also re: the map - are there such a thing as squares with both land and water? Or if it's mostly water it's a water square? I'm not really familiar with map games.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:50 am**

Voted for sorsha, it's my way of saying hello

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:01 am**

I have company today so I won't be around much.

Is there any role playing element to this game? Can I search my location for immunity idols? :P

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:12 am**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:14 am Hey Epi have you voted yet

Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answer?

Bitch, I was sleep.

Voting DDL.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:17 am**

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:03 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:59 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:55 pm i voted "will you become more" because it's either a rhetorical question with a motivating connotation or a question as to whether i'm going to get super fat this christmas in which case the answer is yes
Town.
i won't be buddied this time, punk.

It was worth a shot.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:20 am**

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:23 pm @Sorsha Hi! I don't think I've played with you before. Also you're voting the same as me, and I thought that was cool.

Good morning, nice to meet you!

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:50 am Voted for sorsha, it's my way of saying hello

Hello Turnip Head!

I’m tired because I just got out of bed and I’m rusty because I haven’t played mafia in a long time so excuse me while I just try to get my shit together. Who knows how long this will take.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:20 am**

Are people really suspecting me for the role stuff?

I just liked the puzzle and wanted to see if I could figure it out.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:23 am**

Also I disagree that making effort in the first page of Day 0 is typical of mafia.

Nobody makes effort at that stage. Mafia doesn't have to bother. They can just fluff and still blend in.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:26 am**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:15 am I'm going to be voting DDL tomorrow.

The speculation over the roles is an act to get involved.

Now go.

Disagree. DDL tends to be mechanically minded.

Then again, I read DDL for shit.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:34 am**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:20 am Are people really suspecting me for the role stuff?

I just liked the puzzle and wanted to see if I could figure it out.

It's also a trend that whoever takes votes right out of the gate Day 1 isn't the one lynched, so you should be reassured by this.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:36 am**

LoRab wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:27 am OK....I got wifi on the plane...

Can I suggest that we change the vote word from aubergine to something that is not one of the role names? I mean, if the point is to be easily searched, then it seems to me it would make it easier if it were a word that isn't likely to come up. Also, lol to the hosts for putting that in there.

@LC @BR: Is the difference in the map from earlier to current based on a host correction, or based on night 0 activity?

The map was like that from the start, just an old graphic was posted with a grid on it. Compare to the map in the Signup Thread - jungle and bridges were already part of it.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:39 am**

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:56 am I have a mechanics question for @Long Con or @Black Rock:

What does this mean (from BR's post about game rules):

A player may call out once, revealing their identity, through the Host with a PM.

I wanted to make BTSC optional, but I didn't want social consequences for not entering BTSC. So, you get to know when someone is on your square, but your identity isn't revealed unless you choose to attempt BTSC.
If you 'call out' then that person will know who you are. If they agree to enter BTSC, then you get to know who they are; if they don't, they remain anonymous.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:41 am**

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:09 am For the people that haven't played with me im Brennan and my favorite color is blue

If anyone can provide me some insight, I've only refreshed myself on a handful of roles and the dream splicer seems really confusing. Since the Splicer has basically 2 clones following him around, does using an action on a clone kill it/indicate that it is a fake? (In other words, if a player stumbles upon the Dream Splicer, are actions against the clones basically considered to be a roleblock/ability fail since they don't target the actual player?)

Actions against the Dream Splicer's hologram clones fail, and will seem to be roleblocked. It's like a shell game, gotta pick the right one.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:43 am**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:49 am Also re: the map - are there such a thing as squares with both land and water? Or if it's mostly water it's a water square? I'm not really familiar with map games.

Any square containing water is considered a 'water square' for the Kraken's ability. Most coastal squares are both land and water, completely water squares are rare.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:02 pm**

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:09 am Yay for changeable votes! And now we know the night polls have tangible results, and we found out in a way that is not actively harmful so long as we try to avoid ties, as DH says. Good on us.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:27 pm @@sabie12 you've talked quite a bit about the different poll options and ended up going with "The Honourable Tribunal". Care to walk us through your thought process on that?
Why did this vote stand out to you, when several other people engaged in discussion of what the options could mean, and some just voted with no real engagement at all? I am not trying to put you on the defensive, I really want to know. This post surprised me.

I just haven’t player with sabie before and wanted to initiate discussion with them.

Posted: **Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:05 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:38 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:18 am Good news! Votes are indeed changeable, and I put mine on Tranq. Aubergine.
Sloonei, sorry if I missed your reasoning but what did you see about Tranq that made you put a vote on him?

I didn’t say

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