The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:23 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:21 pm
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tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:16 pm

You guys think that I'm at the left end of the bell curve, but you couldn't be more wrong ...
The answer is game is easy and make reads but don't try, effort is for losers lol

lmaooooo crackhead

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:27 pm**

Has anybody seen Scotty mafia? And Cape mafia? And Jack mafia? I've seen none of those. Any chance they have tells that they haven't been able to overcome?

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:28 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:27 pm Has anybody seen Scotty mafia? And Cape mafia? And Jack mafia? I've seen none of those. Any chance they have tells that they haven't been able to overcome?

i have seen them all as mafia yeah

idk

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:28 pm**

My meta on everyone here is quite outdated; also I've misread most of the players here. I don't feel confident in being accurate before flips.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:28 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:28 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:27 pm Has anybody seen Scotty mafia? And Cape mafia? And Jack mafia? I've seen none of those. Any chance they have tells that they haven't been able to overcome?
i have seen them all as mafia yeah

idk

Pat pat smol smol, at least we tried!

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:30 pm**

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine (my vote was in jest)

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine This guy always rands mafia and is very annoying. (Purely inside of the game, of course)

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:33 pm**

My read accuracy and winrate is quite low on the Syndicate, I'm afraid that there is just a big vibe mismatch. I struggle to understand a lot of people and a lot of people struggle to understand me.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:35 pm**

I never thought about it this way but I'm pretty sure I struggle reading anyone older than me. I have an easier time reading younger people than me. If you're above 25 then I just can't empathize with you fully due to lacking your amount of experience being alive, I think.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:36 pm**

Zhuangzi is the one with the big axe that fought the tigers right?

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:40 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:27 pm Has anybody seen Scotty mafia? And Cape mafia? And Jack mafia? I've seen none of those. Any chance they have tells that they haven't been able to overcome?

I literally am incapable of rolling mafia on this site.

Unrelated [VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:43 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:33 pm I'm afraid that there is just a big vibe mismatch. I struggle to understand a lot of people and a lot of people struggle to understand me.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:44 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:40 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:27 pm Has anybody seen Scotty mafia? And Cape mafia? And Jack mafia? I've seen none of those. Any chance they have tells that they haven't been able to overcome?
I literally am incapable of rolling mafia on this site.

Unrelated [VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

My last mafia rand here was 3 years ago, and in those years I've only randed mafia once on SC2 mafia, and about 30-40 town rands. Wilgy, Long Con and nutella are the only ones here who have seen me mafia I think.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:46 pm**

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:57 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:22 am a little pinged by lime cokes opening, i think he leans into copypasta and meme openers more as wolf. still early though and if hes town im sure ill find him at some point this game

didnt like capes opener either but cant really pinpoint why other than it felt a little awkward to me

delta leaning town on everyone might be slightly towny, wolves tend to be slightly more pressured to find something to scumread or shade in their openers
nobody said they didnt like my opener until you said something

It literally made me go "cape posted?" Lol

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:47 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:43 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:33 pm I'm afraid that there is just a big vibe mismatch. I struggle to understand a lot of people and a lot of people struggle to understand me.

I have no idea what you mean

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:48 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:27 pm Has anybody seen Scotty mafia? And Cape mafia? And Jack mafia? I've seen none of those. Any chance they have tells that they haven't been able to overcome?

Cant remember with scotty like probably but cant recall
Cape you'll be able to tell imo but ppl read him wrong all the time so idk maybe defer and outsource your read if you need
Think I've only seen jack wolf when he is afk lol

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:50 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:33 pm My read accuracy and winrate is quite low on the Syndicate, I'm afraid that there is just a big vibe mismatch. I struggle to understand a lot of people and a lot of people struggle to understand me.

Take my hand

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:52 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:47 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:43 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:33 pm I'm afraid that there is just a big vibe mismatch. I struggle to understand a lot of people and a lot of people struggle to understand me.

I have no idea what you mean

I voted you for vibes and you were like "there may be a vibe mismatch" and so I'm just like eeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:52 pm**

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:50 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:33 pm My read accuracy and winrate is quite low on the Syndicate, I'm afraid that there is just a big vibe mismatch. I struggle to understand a lot of people and a lot of people struggle to understand me.
Take my hand

Lead the way, little one.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:53 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:52 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:47 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:43 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:33 pm I'm afraid that there is just a big vibe mismatch. I struggle to understand a lot of people and a lot of people struggle to understand me.

I have no idea what you mean
I voted you for vibes and you were like "there may be a vibe mismatch" and so I'm just like eeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

Oooh I see. I'd have never guessed that was the meaning behind your gif. Case in point.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:53 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:35 pm I struggle reading anyone older than me.

I don't have this problem. Anyone older than me is a wolf.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:55 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:53 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:35 pm I struggle reading anyone older than me.
I don't have this problem. Anyone older than me is a wolf.

Looks like this leaves us with a PoE of exactly Timsup2nothin and no one else. But I think there should be more than one wolf, so this sorting strategy might have flaws.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:02 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:53 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:35 pm I struggle reading anyone older than me.
I don't have this problem. Anyone older than me is a wolf.
Looks like this leaves us with a PoE of exactly Timsup2nothin and no one else. But I think there should be more than one wolf, so this sorting strategy might have flaws.

In fairness, Tim was a wolf irl.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:03 pm**

Long con is old lol

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:04 pm**

I think that making the read that anyone is out of their wolf range yet would be very incorrect and dare I say disrespectful to their wolfing skills. That being said, of course the value of at least trying to make reads to push the game forward is valuable, it needs to start one way or another, and simply making a guess on people's alignments - nothing wrong with that.

So, let me take a leap of faith and try: I think Jack town, Scotty town, Cape town.

I don't feel great about it, and those could easily be wrong, but I suppose we need to get through the rocky start of the game one way or another.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:06 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:03 pm Long con is old lol

Oh I roughly know everyone's ages, I was just teasing Jack specifically. And Tim ended up collateral damage.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:14 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:19 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:59 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:36 am
Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:29 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:22 am a little pinged by lime cokes opening, i think he leans into copypasta and meme openers more as wolf. still early though and if hes town im sure ill find him at some point this game

didnt like capes opener either but cant really pinpoint why other than it felt a little awkward to me

delta leaning town on everyone might be slightly towny, wolves tend to be slightly more pressured to find something to scumread or shade in their openers
is this not what you just did? :wowee:

Is there anyone aside from me you think had a townie entrance?
yep it sure is, but thats cos im on a timer most games im village so ive shifted my focus from towncore building into just trying to kill wolves

there were other entrances that seemed fine but i havent played as much with those players so i was waiting for the day to play out some more. but since you brought it up id scotty seemed relaxed tonally, and i liked tutuu but im not sure if thats alignment indicative for them or not, they strike me as someone id probably like and get along with as either alignment
I kinda dislike this post, especially the tutuu part feels just wrong to me
How can he be wrong? Well sure he can be wrong that I'm town, but he's just saying that he likes me. Is that not a subjective preference? Where is the room for error?

(unless you're using wrong to say scummy rather than incorrect?)

I was more bothered by the hedginess of it tbh

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:15 pm**

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:29 pm Only Porscha has not checked-in, if I am not mistaken.

In a vacuum I'd say this is a >rand wolf post. (Edit: Not because of a particular benefit to wolves, just my observation from playing many games). But it would be relevant to take into account Darling's inexperience with everyone (unless they are an alt). Even if they were an alt they'd be pretending to be a newcomer anyway so it doesn't matter. What I was saying was ... yeah, it could be chalked up to the awkwardness of being a newcomer to a party where you don't know anyone. Chances are you won't be smooth from the start. So I suppose I should decide how much I wanna weigh in each of these two scales.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:15 pm**

saying

"but im not sure if thats alignment indicative for them or not"

is kinda a scumtell

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:17 pm**

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:48 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:27 pm Has anybody seen Scotty mafia? And Cape mafia? And Jack mafia? I've seen none of those. Any chance they have tells that they haven't been able to overcome?
Cant remember with scotty like probably but cant recall
Cape you'll be able to tell imo but ppl read him wrong all the time so idk maybe defer and outsource your read if you need
Think I've only seen jack wolf when he is afk lol

Why are you assuming people could tell if I am mafia or not even though they literally misread me all the time?

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:18 pm**

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:15 pm saying

"but im not sure if thats alignment indicative for them or not"

is kinda a scumtell

Hedgyness is scummy in my experience I agree; this particular archetype of a sentence ilario wrote "I like this person" hasn't been a scumtell in my personal experience.

I do think your stance and actions on this are towny indicative.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:26 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:27 pm Has anybody seen Scotty mafia? And Cape mafia? And Jack mafia? I've seen none of those. Any chance they have tells that they haven't been able to overcome?

Scotty was a wolf for the first time in forever, in the last game here, Guitar Mafia. He pocketed me on Day 1, and so I stayed true to him for the whole game, even as I called out his wolf partner at the start of Day 2. I was the only one in the game to make an accusation that was both strong and accurate, but of course no one would listen/acknowledge it.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:03 pm Long con is old lol

Hey WTF? Screw you!

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:28 pm**

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:23 am Long Con feels townier than what I remember in Beans Mafia which is a good start \o/

I don't accept this. [VOTE: delta] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:30 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:14 am Not the type of opening I was expecting, ngl.

You probably were thinking

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:37 pm**

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:17 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:48 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:27 pm Has anybody seen Scotty mafia? And Cape mafia? And Jack mafia? I've seen none of those. Any chance they have tells that they haven't been able to overcome?
Cant remember with scotty like probably but cant recall
Cape you'll be able to tell imo but ppl read him wrong all the time so idk maybe defer and outsource your read if you need
Think I've only seen jack wolf when he is afk lol
Why are you assuming people could tell if I am mafia or not even though they literally misread me all the time?

Because I think you're pretty easy to read and have to remind myself the general populace struggles with you more than I do lol

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:40 pm**

Scotty bad, Delta bad.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:57 pm**

I think lime coke is town

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:57 pm**

Based on entrance

Subject to change

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:04 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:11 am I don't find anything posted so far alignment indicative. I could try and give out some gut leans, but if I'm not sure, what's even the point? As they likely won't be all accurate. The only potential pro is to not get myself scumread as Giving Reads Early is considered Standard Etiquette for a Good Samaritan Townie ... but yet ... what do I do when I don't have reads and I don't care about manipulating people by being mafia?... Am I brave enough to go against the grain?... They bullied Galielo Galilei out of his right read that the Earth is round ... Peer pressure can be a powerful tool ... And yet ... Be brave?

...but the Earf is flat...

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:06 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:16 am The other thread probably has 10 pages of spammy nonsense by now. I would like to think that we are the more intelligent group. Perhaps Jay divided us by intelligence. We are the scientists, and the other group are the primates.

When Sir Isaac Newton flew his kite in the middle of a thunderstorm, he made the most mind boggling discovery...

That grown as men shouldn't fly kites.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:06 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:37 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:22 am a little pinged by lime cokes opening, i think he leans into copypasta and meme openers more as wolf. still early though and if hes town im sure ill find him at some point this game

didnt like capes opener either but cant really pinpoint why other than it felt a little awkward to me

delta leaning town on everyone might be slightly towny, wolves tend to be slightly more pressured to find something to scumread or shade in their openers
agree with all this p much

You both would.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:06 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:04 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:11 am I don't find anything posted so far alignment indicative. I could try and give out some gut leans, but if I'm not sure, what's even the point? As they likely won't be all accurate. The only potential pro is to not get myself scumread as Giving Reads Early is considered Standard Etiquette for a Good Samaritan Townie ... but yet ... what do I do when I don't have reads and I don't care about manipulating people by being mafia?... Am I brave enough to go against the grain?... They bullied Galielo Galilei out of his right read that the Earth is round ... Peer pressure can be a powerful tool ... And yet ... Be brave?
...but the Earf is flat...

Pat pat little one ...

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:10 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:28 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:23 am Long Con feels townier than what I remember in Beans Mafia which is a good start \o/
I don't accept this. [VOTE: delta] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:40 pm Scotty bad, Delta bad.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:10 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:35 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:34 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:33 pm Episode summaries like "The team discovers a startling revelation."
thats so us when the mafia team turns out to be
Three Goldbergs.

I'll get my taser.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:13 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:30 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:14 am Not the type of opening I was expecting, ngl.
You probably were thinking

Yesssssss

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:15 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:27 pm Has anybody seen Scotty mafia? And Cape mafia? And Jack mafia? I've seen none of those. Any chance they have tells that they haven't been able to overcome?

Jack will spurt post, and then proceed to avoid the thread like the plague, then spurt post again, then avoid thread like the plague, as mafia.

I've teamed with Scotty before...I kinda can't explain it? Not as aggressive as mafia which I think he's being here.

Spoiler: show

Cape I legit don't actually have a meta explanation.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:17 pm**

Town:
Tutuu
Scotty

Townlean:
LC
Cape
Delta

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:17 pm**

Should make that "townread" instead of just "town" but y'aknowwwww.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:19 pm**

[VOTE: Dr.Wilgy] aubergine

I thought there was someone that broke a tell but there wasn't apparently. So I'm just gonna throw a vote here for now and wait.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:13 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:10 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:28 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:23 am Long Con feels townier than what I remember in Beans Mafia which is a good start \o/
I don't accept this. [VOTE: delta] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:40 pm Scotty bad, Delta bad.

what?

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:55 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:22 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:43 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:34 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:43 am nearly everyone has posted but it hardly feels like it
Yeah definitely ?_? it feels weirdly quiet

How are you feeling so far? Any thoughts? \o/
I’m trying to fill the thread with thots

People I’m liking thus far and whom I wouldn’t mind have a little dance party with in the break room:
You
Long Con
jack
ilario

People that need some coffee or something to be a productive member of society:
tutuu
Lime Coke
Nutella

People that apparently work here but only come out when the lunch bell chimes:
I kinda dig these reads but that shouldn't actually make me townread Scotty. I'm a sucker, though.

Would I lie to you? I’ve literally never been bad except

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