The Syndicate

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:08 pm @karavalenge @DharmaHelper @ColinIsCool seeing as how Owner requested to be replaced, does that change your stance on wanting her lynched? There are better trains to jump on today. Just saying.

Which are the better trains?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:38 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:34 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:32 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:26 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:18 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:15 pm Changing my vote to kara, because timmer's on board with it. And because no one shares my INH suspicions.

Mkayyyyy gonna vote Luna here in a bit I'm sure.

wow DH, sorry I don't agree with all your opinions and such, but it's no reason to lynch me.

Snarky passive aggressive defense very town.

You know, last time you tunneled me until I got lynched, you were scum.

Do you read DH as scum then?

I don't want this to look like a "no u" but I am keeping my eye on DH

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:41 pm I don't want this to look like a "no u" but I am keeping my eye on DH

Who cares what it looks like? What is your current read on DharmaHelper, go.

Ok then, I agree with timmer even if he didn't do anything. It just took his pointing out of something for me to realize it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:40 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:08 pm @karavalenge @DharmaHelper @ColinIsCool seeing as how Owner requested to be replaced, does that change your stance on wanting her lynched? There are better trains to jump on today. Just saying.

Which are the better trains?

I really wish I knew. I don't even know where to vote right now, but I'm considering Bullzeye. He has some actual real evidence stacked against him with the suspish Nova vote.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:41 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:41 pm I don't want this to look like a "no u" but I am keeping my eye on DH

Who cares what it looks like? What is your current read on DharmaHelper, go.

Okay, give me a minute.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:42 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:40 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:08 pm @karavalenge @DharmaHelper @ColinIsCool seeing as how Owner requested to be replaced, does that change your stance on wanting her lynched? There are better trains to jump on today. Just saying.

Which are the better trains?

I really wish I knew. I don't even know where to vote right now, but I'm considering Bullzeye. He has some actual real evidence stacked against him with the suspish Nova vote.

You specifically encouraged the three people voting for Owner to move to different trains, but without an opinion about who should be lynched instead? You have expressed some suspicion of INH and Kara, one of whom is referenced in this post. Kara won't vote for him/herself. What does timmer's resistance to a Bullzeye lynch mean to you?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:43 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:41 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:41 pm I don't want this to look like a "no u" but I am keeping my eye on DH

Who cares what it looks like? What is your current read on DharmaHelper, go.

Okay, give me a minute.

That's not how this works. Take a stance immediately.

As Supertown Jimmy struggles to free himself from the psychological abyss...

Nutella - Pretty consistently townreading and supporting Owner, which seems almost too blatant if they're teammates. Then again it isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility that Owner was more forthcoming with her IRL situation in a BTSC chat and nutella, being a good person, felt bad enough to support and defend Owner in the thread. Buddy-posted speed N1 before Speed got clipped. This post is Vague Bandwagon Jump On Post 101. "Pretty convinced" by a case that hinges on one post. Meh. Ends up voting for Mac, another easy blendy choice. Town reads Timmer after building a big ol' post about how bad timmer is.

Hey BTW I voted for Lunalee.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:45 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:43 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:41 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:41 pm I don't want this to look like a "no u" but I am keeping my eye on DH

Who cares what it looks like? What is your current read on DharmaHelper, go.

Okay, give me a minute.

That's not how this works. Take a stance immediately.

Oh, I thought you were requesting a full-fledged analysis. Current GTH read is that DH is scum.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:48 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:45 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:43 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:41 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:41 pm I don't want this to look like a "no u" but I am keeping my eye on DH

Who cares what it looks like? What is your current read on DharmaHelper, go.

Okay, give me a minute.

That's not how this works. Take a stance immediately.

Oh, I thought you were requesting a full-fledged analysis. Current GTH read is that DH is scum.

"I don't want this to sound like a No-U but DH is scum because he suspects me."

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:47 pm Nutella - Pretty consistently townreading and supporting Owner, which seems almost too blatant if they're teammates. Then again it isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility that Owner was more forthcoming with her IRL situation in a BTSC chat and nutella, being a good person, felt bad enough to support and defend Owner in the thread. Buddy-posted speed N1 before Speed got clipped. This post is Vague Bandwagon Jump On Post 101. "Pretty convinced" by a case that hinges on one post. Meh. Ends up voting for Mac, another easy blendy choice. Town reads Timmer after building a big ol' post about how bad timmer is.

The Bullzeye thing wasn't just based on one post.
I don't know anything about owner's personal life.
I townread timmer and Bullzeye now for reasons.
How is Mac an easy blendy choice if nobody else except quin seems interested in pursuing him

Without looking, gimme an over/under on Mac's current post count: 20

Too hot god damn call the police and the fireman

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:49 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:48 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:45 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:43 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:41 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:41 pm I don't want this to look like a "no u" but I am keeping my eye on DH

Who cares what it looks like? What is your current read on DharmaHelper, go.

Okay, give me a minute.

That's not how this works. Take a stance immediately.

Oh, I thought you were requesting a full-fledged analysis. Current GTH read is that DH is scum.

"I don't want this to sound like a No-U but DH is scum because he suspects me."

Yeah she's fumbling. But in my experience scum Luna is together and calculating and cool. Scum Luna doesn't fumble.

going away for a bit, but leaving my vote on Bullzeye

[mention]Lunalee[/mention], I am unclear why you are suspicious of karavalenge. If you've already explained in detail just direct me that way, or please do so now. It strikes me as a very easy selection (as does Bullzeye).

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:50 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:47 pm Nutella - Pretty consistently townreading and supporting Owner, which seems almost too blatant if they're teammates. Then again it isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility that Owner was more forthcoming with her IRL situation in a BTSC chat and nutella, being a good person, felt bad enough to support and defend Owner in the thread. Buddy-posted speed N1 before Speed got clipped. This post is Vague Bandwagon Jump On Post 101. "Pretty convinced" by a case that hinges on one post. Meh. Ends up voting for Mac, another easy blendy choice. Town reads Timmer after building a big ol' post about how bad timmer is.

The Bullzeye thing wasn't just based on one post.
I don't know anything about owner's personal life.
I townread timmer and Bullzeye now for reasons.
How is Mac an easy blendy choice if nobody else except quin seems interested in pursuing him

He's easy on account of A) He wont defend himself B) He may not even get lynched unless people put a lot of work into lynching a guy who doesn't give a fuck and isn't here.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:51 pm Yeah she's fumbling. But in my experience scum Luna is together and calculating and cool. Scum Luna doesn't fumble.

Can you remember an example?

nutella is a civilian.

DH what do you think about the fact that you just described MacDougall as not giving a fuck? You've played with Mac before, does the perceived lack of fucks concern you at all?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:55 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:51 pm Yeah she's fumbling. But in my experience scum Luna is together and calculating and cool. Scum Luna doesn't fumble.

Can you remember an example?

Uh IDR if it was upick I'm thinking of and maybe MegaMan too?there are a few games in which I've caught her as bad and I'm not seeing similar behavior here

Luna is a player I have not read well to this point. I believe she was mafia twice in full games and I was wrong about her both times (I read her as a civilian).

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:57 pm DH what do you think about the fact that you just described MacDougall as not giving a fuck? You've played with Mac before, does the perceived lack of fucks concern you at all?

He didn't give a fuck in DFS and I think he was civ. I took it as a continuation of his shitpost persona.

To be honest I have been considering dropping out for a few days now as I really don't have time to play. Due to the hours I'm working at the minute I get about an hour or two at most when I come in to read and post. Given that I've now drawn a bit of heat I don't know if it's fair to drop out and expect someone else to deal with it so maybe it would be best if I did get lynched. That's why I've maybe seemed like I don't care what happens. If I do survive I'll have the weekend to try and catch up but next week is going to be even worse on me for time so who knows...

Ugh Luna, gurrrlll... you are all over the place and now you are bailing?

I looked over Luna's posts in U-Pick and Mega Man (mafia in both). It's difficult to identify any tonal differences with this game. In terms of content, I do observe that in her mafia performances she was inclined toward individualized player analysis, in the forms of large quote compilations, ISOs, or thorough reads lists, in a way that isn't quite as visible here. Her hunting activity is more reactive and less self-constructed.

Oh wow... bullz, you could request replacement and hang on until one shows up as best you can? Requesting getting lynched isn't really the right way to go, imo?

Bullzeye wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:09 pm To be honest I have been considering dropping out for a few days now as I really don't have time to play. Due to the hours I'm working at the minute I get about an hour or two at most when I come in to read and post. Given that I've now drawn a bit of heat I don't know if it's fair to drop out and expect someone else to deal with it so maybe it would be best if I did get lynched. That's why I've maybe seemed like I don't care what happens. If I do survive I'll have the weekend to try and catch up but next week is going to be even worse on me for time so who knows...

I don't think you're getting lynched today. Stick around.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:11 pm I looked over Luna's posts in U-Pick and Mega Man (mafia in both). It's difficult to identify any tonal differences with this game. In terms of content, I do observe that in her mafia performances she was inclined toward individualized player analysis, in the forms of large quote compilations, ISOs, or thorough reads lists, in a way that isn't quite as visible here. Her hunting activity is more reactive and less self-constructed.

Luna is definitely reactionary right now. It reminds me of my earlier mafia career where I would freak out once I realized that I was being eyed. But she seems to be flailing with no idea of an overarching goal. Vote bullz. Don't vote bullz. But vote bullz. But maybe Kara. But no bullz... it's dizzying.

Oh I overread her posts, she started with comments to owner voters, not bullz voters, but that just adds to the scattershot nature.

timmer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:11 pm I looked over Luna's posts in U-Pick and Mega Man (mafia in both). It's difficult to identify any tonal differences with this game. In terms of content, I do observe that in her mafia performances she was inclined toward individualized player analysis, in the forms of large quote compilations, ISOs, or thorough reads lists, in a way that isn't quite as visible here. Her hunting activity is more reactive and less self-constructed.

Luna is definitely reactionary right now. It reminds me of my earlier mafia career where I would freak out once I realized that I was being eyed. But she seems to be flailing with no idea of an overarching goal. Vote bullz. Don't vote bullz. But vote bullz. But maybe Kara. But no bullz... it's dizzying.

Exactly. When she's mafia she does have overarching goals.

Going back to [VOTE: Soneji] aubergine while I think things over. I'll be back in a bit.

I don't think I'm voting luna at this time.

I just noticed jack has a vote on glorfindel and realized that I know nothing about that, so Im off to ISO them both.

timmer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:11 pm I looked over Luna's posts in U-Pick and Mega Man (mafia in both). It's difficult to identify any tonal differences with this game. In terms of content, I do observe that in her mafia performances she was inclined toward individualized player analysis, in the forms of large quote compilations, ISOs, or thorough reads lists, in a way that isn't quite as visible here. Her hunting activity is more reactive and less self-constructed.

Luna is definitely reactionary right now. It reminds me of my earlier mafia career where I would freak out once I realized that I was being eyed. But she seems to be flailing with no idea of an overarching goal. Vote bullz. Don't vote bullz. But vote bullz. But maybe Kara. But no bullz... it's dizzying.

This. Her 3 targets that she's focused on, Bullz, Kara, and me, have all been easy suspicions to come by, and mostly feel like her hopping onto easy suspects already mentioned by others. She criticized me for having too few/weak reads, and only providing "commentary" to the thread, while she herself has been guilty of all of that.

I always read willful hypocrisy as a scumtell. Other folks I'd be down to lynching: Glorf, Owner, and maaaaaybe JJJ. Need to read up on all of three of them before I decisively side against them.

[VOTE: lunalee] aubergine

So... Jack comes across as someone who honestly doesn't seem to give a shit what is happening in the game, he posts a ton of flippant stuff and overtly tried to grab a deathly Hallows by voting LC in a lynch without having ever said he even suspected him... this is not someone trying for a civ win but... is this how Jack is? I can't remember.

But I don't like how he's just idly commenting on things without really trying to push the thread or promote his ideas.

Added a paragraph to the FAQ involving potion mechanics that explains some interactions.

- Potion usage is not affected by roleblocks/delays (except by [Petrificus Totalus]). That said, if a player is trying to combo an ability with [Felix Felicis] or [Invigoration Draught] and that ability is blocked, the potion won't be consumed. If delayed, the potion will be delayed with it.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:39 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:11 pm I looked over Luna's posts in U-Pick and Mega Man (mafia in both). It's difficult to identify any tonal differences with this game. In terms of content, I do observe that in her mafia performances she was inclined toward individualized player analysis, in the forms of large quote compilations, ISOs, or thorough reads lists, in a way that isn't quite as visible here. Her hunting activity is more reactive and less self-constructed.

Luna is definitely reactionary right now. It reminds me of my earlier mafia career where I would freak out once I realized that I was being eyed. But she seems to be flailing with no idea of an overarching goal. Vote bullz. Don't vote bullz. But vote bullz. But maybe Kara. But no bullz... it's dizzying.

This. Her 3 targets that she's focused on, Bullz, Kara, and me, have all been easy suspicions to come by, and mostly feel like her hopping onto easy suspects already mentioned by others. She criticized me for having too few/weak reads, and only providing "commentary" to the thread, while she herself has been guilty of all of that.

I always read willful hypocrisy as a scumtell. Other folks I'd be down to lynching: Glorf, Owner, and maaaaaybe JJJ. Need to read up on all of three of them before I decisively side against them.

[VOTE: lunalee] aubergine

I won't argue against a Luna lynch, I think she's dug a hole with her play, but I'm not convinced it's a scumtell just yet.

I am reading glor next.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:51 pm Without looking, gimme an over/under on Mac's current post count: 20

Under.

Imma fight Jimmy for lying or being wrong on Luna and Nutella.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:39 pmOther folks I'd be down to lynching: Glorf, Owner, and maaaaaybe JJJ. Need to read up on all of three of them before I decisively side against them.

Prototypical player salad. Y'all want a definition? This is the definition, or at least of the manner of salad that has most frequently caught bad guys in my experience. Put it in the encyclopedia.

"I would be willing to lynch X, Y, Z, or maaaaaaybe W" is literally how I have described player salad in the past.

Hmm... glor has a sort of theatrical way of posting that I can't read much into. I'm leaving glor and Jack for another day. But while I'm ISO ing purple with votes... soneji! Holy interesting case!

TH suspects soneji. Soneji suspects luna. Luna votes owner. So soneji uses this as an excuse to vote for...TH. who suspected soneji . So soneji pulled a clever no U.

Now today soneji is back on Luna, but with no apparent attempt to break down how the lynch result may have affected the case. If soneji felt strongly that Luna was protecting th with a vote on owner, where are the thoughts now that the lynch went how it did?

I think I may join jjj on a soneji vote. Yes, in fact I am.

[VOTE: soneji] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:53 pm

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:39 pmOther folks I'd be down to lynching: Glorf, Owner, and maaaaaybe JJJ. Need to read up on all of three of them before I decisively side against them.

Prototypical player salad. Y'all want a definition? This is the definition, or at least of the manner of salad that has most frequently caught bad guys in my experience. Put it in the encyclopedia.

"I would be willing to lynch X, Y, Z, or maaaaaaybe W" is literally how I have described player salad in the past.

Recalling the same Seinfeld example I mentioned earlier to Long Con (J Peterman is evil):

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:45 pm

J Peterman wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:43 pm So, from what I've gathered, I'm happiest to vote George, Whatley, or Frank today. And maybe Leo. But less likely Leo.

Peterman, this is no time for player salad! You just talked about everyone, so pick one!

timmer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:11 pm I looked over Luna's posts in U-Pick and Mega Man (mafia in both). It's difficult to identify any tonal differences with this game. In terms of content, I do observe that in her mafia performances she was inclined toward individualized player analysis, in the forms of large quote compilations, ISOs, or thorough reads lists, in a way that isn't quite as visible here. Her hunting activity is more reactive and less self-constructed.

Luna is definitely reactionary right now. It reminds me of my earlier mafia career where I would freak out once I realized that I was being eyed. But she seems to be flailing with no idea of an overarching goal. Vote bullz. Don't vote bullz. But vote bullz. But maybe Kara. But no bullz... it's dizzying.

Check out Nutella and lmk what you think.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:53 pm

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:39 pmOther folks I'd be down to lynching: Glorf, Owner, and maaaaaybe JJJ. Need to read up on all of three of them before I decisively side against them.

Prototypical player salad. Y'all want a definition? This is the definition, or at least of the manner of salad that has most frequently caught bad guys in my experience. Put it in the encyclopedia.

"I would be willing to lynch X, Y, Z, or maaaaaaybe W" is literally how I have described player salad in the past.

Reeaal. Also he ignored my (+your) testimony that Luna's behavior is not indicative of a mafia alignment.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:47 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:51 pm Without looking, gimme an over/under on Mac's current post count: 20

Under.

46.