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Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:55 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:20 pm Don't know if I wanna elaborate on TSP for now because it probably looks silly, will just chalk it off as a gut thing for now, I think he feels different than his other town games, at least that I feel good saying. Not wolf indicative yet, I have other things brewing for the read but need more before serving the dish.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:27 pm it's weird because TSP feels more likely that it'll hit than any of my other wolf reads

could be wrong on dunya

i'll just let this vote sink in

[VOTE: TSP ] aubergine

could you elaborate on what’s different? and how you went from saying its not wolf indicative/you had other things brewing to then voting him?

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:56 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:55 pm what reads are different?

are you reading my posts?

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:57 pm**

I said he feels different, that may not be wolf indicative, but I have other reasons to be feeling bad about him that are probably vague aorn / I need more posts to be confident in it.

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:57 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:15 pm villa

Vulgard
Poison Chan (disrespect read)
112

villa, thin reason (wolves can slip here)

Michelle
Arete

null

Long Con
Hally
Triple Haven
tutuu
Nanook

(maaaaybe wolf?)

TSP

woofs

ash lael
dunya

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I think LC could be town, I wanted to make a read on him and say f it, but it's probably not very good because he'd be changing the way he thinks about the game regardless.

main differences
- i sr michelle (not as confident as earlier though)
- i lean town on ash
- i tr tsp
- i have nook and tutuu as town

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:58 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:57 pm I said he feels different, that may not be wolf indicative, but I have other reasons to be feeling bad about him that are probably vague aorn / I need more posts to be confident in it.

what are those reasons?

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:01 pm**

Why's Michelle a wolf?

I don't think Ash has been posting anything that's out of an average to decent wolf's range, iirc your reasoning was solely mindmeld, which... yeah.

I don't know why you're town leaning TSP at all.

I can maybe see nanook and tutuu as town, but that's not "having a different view of the game", that's just I didn't ISO them and skimmed most of their posts.

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:02 pm**

wow why ted u meanie

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:04 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:58 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:57 pm I said he feels different, that may not be wolf indicative, but I have other reasons to be feeling bad about him that are probably vague aorn / I need more posts to be confident in it.
what are those reasons?

I didn't like his Dunya read and he comes across as trying to look like he cares about the game when he actually doesn't.

The posts that I've read aren't similar to his town game fmpov and I don't think he cares about any of the reads he made but he's trying to come across as he does. (the chainsaw read thing)

He posts like he's trying to get town read while posting with minimum effort imo. I don't associate carrying for his thread position with town TSP at all.

If you'd make like a cursory glance of his town games you'd probably smell something's off as well, but even without them, you should be able to pick up on the stuff that I've explained, I think.

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:06 pm**

Like just skimming his ISO I can tell he's not really trying to figure out the game

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:11 pm**

I could get on board with a TSP vote.

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:13 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:01 pm Why's Michelle a wolf?

I don't think Ash has been posting anything that's out of an average to decent wolf's range, iirc your reasoning was solely mindmeld, which... yeah.

I don't know why you're town leaning TSP at all.

I can maybe see nanook and tutuu as town, but that's not "having a different view of the game", that's just I didn't ISO them and skimmed most of their posts.

re: michelle, i’ve said already. i don’t think she’s posting like a villager/is actually trying to solve. what reason do you have to tr her?

re: ash, so? why does “not posting anything thats out of a decent wolf’s range” make ash mafia? what is scummy about him? also i do have other reasons for thinking ash is town

re: tsp, idk he just felt like town!tony to me. i admittedly have no idea what he’d look like as mafia though. why is he different to you?

i don’t understand why you don’t have reads on tutuu/nook/me given we’re like the most active posters and you have experience with us. like why are we not priorities for you to sort?

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:14 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:10 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:23 am sorry guys, i was feeling pretty lousy and turns out i had some food poisoning and im still a little out of it but im here

gth reads without reading the thread, but a few tone-posts from each player here we go

112 - w
Arete - t
Ash Lael - w
DrWilgy - t
Hally - w
Long Con - t
Michelle - w
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - t
Poison Chan - t
tedxtr - w
TonyStarkPrime - t
TripleHaven - t
tutuu - t
Vulgard - t

my poe is
112
ash
hally
michelle
ted

i wanna say my strongest town reads are nanook and longcon tbh. my weakest wolf read is ted, so i will not vote for him until day 3 at least.

the person i think most likely could swing w from my t reads is vulgard for possible tmi, but i will eventually read up (or not) see what he has to offer.

high poster hally in a vacuum should be town, but i felt like she was gaslighting us with questions and content which she doesn't really build from. like they're prods and questions which she doesn't really care about one way or the other.

don't really know much about tsp, except he didn't like one of my posts and i like that reaction. no idea if triplehaven has posted yet, i'll get there.

wilgy im giving a soul town read to.
The bolded is always a weird thing to think about. I think because Dunya expressed it directly here maybe it's more likely to come from town? Level 1 is it means w!dunya because t!dunya gets mad at me for an incorrect read, but I don't think Dunya plays like that.
It's a decent looking poe though. Neither of arete or vulgard. I think scum who's skimming would throw one in.

Also, TR on LC. Spicy.

I'll move my vote for now.

it beats me that TSP would clear dunya off one post and especially for this reason, he's also hedging massively, even though the mentality behind the post is supposed to reflect "I think Dunya is town"

this post I really batted an eye upon seeing

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:15 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:04 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:58 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:57 pm I said he feels different, that may not be wolf indicative, but I have other reasons to be feeling bad about him that are probably vague aorn / I need more posts to be confident in it.
what are those reasons?
I didn't like his Dunya read and he comes across as trying to look like he cares about the game when he actually doesn't.

The posts that I've read aren't similar to his town game fmpov and I don't think he cares about any of the reads he made but he's trying to come across as he does. (the chainsaw read thing)

He posts like he's trying to get town read while posting with minimum effort imo. I don't associate carrying for his thread position with town TSP at all.

If you'd make like a cursory glance of his town games you'd probably smell something's off as well, but even without them, you should be able to pick up on the stuff that I've explained, I think.

what is bad about his dunya read if you agree with him that dunya is scum?

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:15 pm**

also, really? "I think scum who's skimming would throw one of these two people in, therefore dunya's town"?

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:16 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:15 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:04 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:58 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:57 pm I said he feels different, that may not be wolf indicative, but I have other reasons to be feeling bad about him that are probably vague aorn / I need more posts to be confident in it.
what are those reasons?
I didn't like his Dunya read and he comes across as trying to look like he cares about the game when he actually doesn't.

The posts that I've read aren't similar to his town game fmpov and I don't think he cares about any of the reads he made but he's trying to come across as he does. (the chainsaw read thing)

He posts like he's trying to get town read while posting with minimum effort imo. I don't associate carrying for his thread position with town TSP at all.

If you'd make like a cursory glance of his town games you'd probably smell something's off as well, but even without them, you should be able to pick up on the stuff that I've explained, I think.
what is bad about his dunya read if you agree with him that dunya is scum?

Just made a poast on the last page saying I could be wrong on dunya because of this

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:16 pm**

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:18 pm**

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:16 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:41 pm the lavender looks so soft and feminine omg

i am imagining nanook with a flower in his hair, over his ear, rn
He is still a blonde mermaid right?

in my imagination he looks so beautiful @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

You can imagine me however you want kek

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:19 pm**

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] can you link a recent scum game on here?

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:19 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:13 pm re: ash, so? why does “not posting anything thats out of a decent wolf’s range” make ash mafia? what is scummy about him? also i do have other reasons for thinking ash is town

it doesn't, I'm saying he shouldn't get town read for anything he's posted

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:20 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:19 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:13 pm re: ash, so? why does “not posting anything thats out of a decent wolf’s range” make ash mafia? what is scummy about him? also i do have other reasons for thinking ash is town
it doesn't, I'm saying he shouldn't get town read for anything he's posted

i mean, you listed him as a wolf in your reads list so you clearly think it does

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:21 pm**

...and on top of the fact that he shouldn't get town read because his posts don't require that much depth of thought, I have concerns with him.

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:21 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:21 pm ...and on top of the fact that he shouldn't get town read because his posts don't require that much depth of thought, I have concerns with him.

go on...

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:22 pm**

I think ash is town, fight me

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:23 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:22 pm I think ash is town, fight me

I mean idrc rn, he can wait for a bit, maybe he posts more villager-y and I'm wrong

i'm on TSP rn

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:24 pm**

TSP is also town tho

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:24 pm**

ted, why do you think michelle could be town?

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:24 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:13 pm tsp, idk he just felt like town!tony to me

how?

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:26 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:24 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:13 pm tsp, idk he just felt like town!tony to me
how?

dunno. he’s just like throwing out takes spontaneously like he does as town. again, i honestly have no clue how he is as mafia but so far i don’t really notice a difference. i can check past games though

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:29 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:24 pm ted, why do you think michelle could be town?

Admittedly this game play is probably what she'd aim for as a wolf in order to override meta but I don't think she'd pull it off this naturally as an actual wolf. The snark behind her posts when people call her a wolf reads like town that's rubbing their hands together thinking "it's working" and "nobody knows how to read me know haha"

It's not the ideal read I'd have but it's tailored to her. I've owned her soul in countless games so I don't go for TMI reads and such, I just have other ways of doing it. Idc if she switches meta or whatever, I still think I can pinpoint her down by the end. She is listed after all in the "wolves can slip here" section because of it, the reads aren't what I'm comfortable with because I like TMI and non-TMI reads more but I gotta make the most of what I got.

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:29 pm**

im really somewhat baffled by ted still having all of nook/tutuu/me as null despite us having 200 posts a piece and him having meta on us

like idk, i feel like we’d be the first ppl anyone would try to sort just by virtue of our activity. plus we’re strong players who in think ted would want to get a handle on early? it’s just... kinda weird to still have us null

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:30 pm**

I've been accused of the same thing before in another game and it's completely irrelevant for my alignment.

This is not how you read me.

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:31 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:22 pm I think ash is town, fight me

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:32 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:29 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:24 pm ted, why do you think michelle could be town?
Admittedly this game play is probably what she'd aim for as a wolf in order to override meta but I don't think she'd pull it off this naturally as an actual wolf. The snark behind her posts when people call her a wolf reads like town that's rubbing their hands together thinking "it's working" and "nobody knows how to read me know haha"

It's not the ideal read I'd have but it's tailored to her. I've owned her soul in countless games so I don't go for TMI reads and such, I just have other ways of doing it. Idc if she switches meta or whatever, I still think I can pinpoint her down by the end. She is listed after all in the "wolves can slip here" section because of it, the reads aren't what I'm comfortable with because I like TMI and non-TMI reads more but I gotta make the most of what I got.

alright. her response to suspicion is currently the main doubt i have about her being scum. i’ll marinate on it

shift is starting now, gtg

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:38 pm**

idk if I'll post much until EoD (not gonna be there either)

priority is probably to sort nulls one way or the other and when cases start to pop up to sheep the one that's the most likely to hit a wolf

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:39 pm**

EOD is tomorrow yeah?

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:39 pm**

think so

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:43 pm**

Cool I’m gonna slack the rest of today then

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:13 pm**

Saw something about expecting an indie and 3 mafia

Do heists have indies? My experience with matrix setups are that they’re exclusively mafia vs town, is it different here?

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:20 pm**

i asked in the signup thread if there is mod confirmed no 3p and i think g-man responded with the equivalent of "dab dab dab dab"

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:22 pm**

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:28 pm**

we need to ban 3ps from the syndicate

along with linki

these two are the first bill i will pass during my mandate

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:30 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:13 pm Saw something about expecting an indie and 3 mafia

Do heists have indies? My experience with matrix setups are that they’re exclusively mafia vs town, is it different here?

Last GMan escape game had an indie, he likes indies a lot AFAIK. Couldn’t find it explicitly in the OP, but I’d say pretty good chance of there being one.

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:40 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:28 pm we need to ban 3ps from the syndicate

I will not support that motion.

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:45 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:15 pm @Ash Lael why were you wolf reading Hally?

You said you had 20 reasons to call her a villa and 20 more to call her wolf. Can you dive into those reasons?

No, I said I had 20 reasons to call her town and the fact that I had 20 reasons to call her town made me think she might be a wolf. I had an idea in my head that maybe she put more effort into looking towny as a wolf.

And then I remembered SF3 and realised that was dumb.

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:59 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:40 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:28 pm we need to ban 3ps from the syndicate

I will not support that motion.

+10 Putin Points to Long Con for speaking righteous truth in the presence of unbelievers.

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:06 pm**

I think TSP is a wolf because he hasn’t posted about Taylor Swift once.

I’m only half joking.

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:21 pm**

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:06 pm I think TSP is a wolf because he hasn’t posted about Taylor Swift once.

I’m only half joking.

Oh, no one’s on to ask me to expand. Ok I’ll do it myself.

I feel like Tony is pretty subdued so far in a way I don’t expect from his town self. There’s no real meme energy. There’s no real solve energy. It’s kind of how I felt about Michelle’s opening. “I’m here, here’s some reads, obligation fulfilled, later guys.”

The reads he’s making are pretty perfunctory, it doesn’t feel like there’s a lot of belief behind them or it would take much to shift them. After 30 or so pages he really ought to have some stronger opinions I think.

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:21 pm**

Oops double quote.

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:28 pm**

yea sorry everyone, forgot this game was happening and I won't have time to catch up on these posts.

Posted: **Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:30 pm**

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:28 pm yea sorry everyone, forgot this game was happening and I won't have time to catch up on these posts.

why am i being voted as a 0 poster lul

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