I will find time, likely tonight after I have finished a substantial amount of PhD work and had my class, to reread and reexamine particularly the events of D2 and the thoughts that I have had. I realize I have come across largely as being all over the place, but all of my posts have only reflected in real time exactly what I've been thinking as events have developed. I am going to try as much as possible to take a step back and more objectively evaluate suspicions, because I'm afraid I may be committing a bit too much focus to some players and not enough to others, or possibly reading too much into whether I believe someone is genuine or not when honestly trying to discern whether this is the case perhaps shouldn't be given more weight than concrete actions taken.
I particularly look forward to hearing what all TH 2.0 and juliets 2.0 are thinking after they evaluate the situation because I know being more of an observer, even for a short period of time, can provide some clarity.
It's beginning to freak me out how much on the same page we are lately (though I don't suspect you for it, it's just kinda cool actually, especially since it's happening organically), but I thought this exact same thing.S~V~S wrote:That would be "obnoxious", not suspicious. Not the same thing.Gotrees wrote:As for an explanation--again, not caught up, but his constant refusal to explain himself seemed really suspicious, especially when he pretty much just joked around when confronted about it, and gloated about how he could get people to follow his lead and vote how he wants. (Something along the lines of: "I vote enrique, enrique takes votes. I vote juliets, juliets takes votes.") Even more suspicious when at least one of those people turned out to be civ.
And Dana, you know when you said it stood out to you that no one defended Juliets? That there was no baddie save? THIS was what you were talking about. That kinda felt like a baddie save to me. A few baddies got in there and manipulated resentment towards Epi over Juliets & his attitude into a lynch.
Welcome Back Juliets & TH
Not sure about the poll options, and don't have time to do my due diligence this minute.
Now I very clearly believe that, even though it's likely relatively disengaged or misguided civilians contributed to Epi's death, that there was some serious baddie manipulation going on because reflecting on Epig's posts it's clear (to me anyway, as I was quick to say throughout the game) that Epig had exhibited no nefarious intentions and that he was playing a pretty normal game for his standards, and now given his K9 reveal it is also clear what he meant by role hinting (and his last declarations are actually pretty funny now, IMO).
I also believe it's likely some baddies wanted to steer clear of an Epig civvie reveal, but at the moment I'm thinking it's more likely that, even if some baddies didn't necessarily vote for him, that there was definite steering in his direction to keep attention away from a teammate, further confirming what I suspected after the NKs of N1 and such.
Epig. Bye Nikki and Boogs 
but welcome back juliets and TH. 
