The Syndicate

Rej wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:53 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:21 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:57 pm Considering 17 players usually means 4 mafia in a town v mafia singleball but also considering this site is weird, I'd say 3 mafia with chances of a handful of third parties

I could see that, I don't recall ever playing a Nova game though which does make it a bit more murky.

I'd say 3-4 mafia and two third parties probably with survivorish roles, I don't think the game could support a SK given how small it is and there being role reveals. It's also possible one of the third parties is a mechanism against role claiming, if they're not I'd be wary of the mafia having a role that could punish a player for revealing info/claiming.

the way you imply he third parties being survivorish is worrying me
I note it down

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:42 pm didnt knew defenses aren't welcome here

also people can never read me lmao

ayayyy

First the ISO to my voters:

DDL: Has a misinterpretation of things against me. Doesn't like me for reasons. Tho I agree with him on the points against boo. Boo voted Drago off with uss and then he tried to sell us a Zemmi lynch possibility. His vote on boo was well placed, seems town.
Oh and yes @Dragon D. Luffy I am a noob, what attracts me in mafia are mechanics and setups and roles, I just admire the mindgaming in the DPs and I can't reach that level yet.

Speedchuck: Also went for Creature like DDL early DP1, often civillian behaviour to clear out a person's alignment or stance. Can't find scummy posts in his ISO. Also what does he have against weasleness? Weasles are cute animals. I want one as pet dafuck


Jack: Normal entrance, didn't went for creature, sheeped a vote on me which I rly don't like, until I was thematized more. Gave fuel to my wagon basically which I don't apreciate. Between the posts you can often find WIFOM... #422 I didn't like the "blah blah statement"
I see a dimension where jack and boo interactions could be W/V or W/W interactions. Deserves its own reanalysis.
#1007 lmao, is this throw off something a civ would say? and if yes why? @Jackofhearts2005
less townlean on Jack, but I don't think scum would recklessly jump on my wagon at this point?

TSP: Interesting ISO, he likes using the term W/W and this implies that he is explicitly scumhunting and he is flexible about it. Could be to create chaos or to find early leaking scum. Slightly more civ lean in the entrance. Suspecting Sloonei, then moving votes from nutella to me, + lecturing boo, since then his votes didnt change. Interesting that he did not interact with the Dom and Dragomir wagons. Were they civ caused autorunner?
50/50 on TSP depending on his bigger sheme.

Sloonei: Targets DDL, a justified target to inquisition, flips later to Boo. alot of meta talks in their posts which I cant dissect. Questioning both wagons alot is giving Sloo civ points. #653 the "shrug vote post" was kinda cute and innocent. Another townlean.
#683 @Sloonei I think we played together before? or did you host for me? there was something before that is not accurate...
and I missed answering your question, I answered because I wanted to speed up forcing an interaction, since I am mre like a peek a boo player. lmao
And yes me and Drago are compatible as scum partners, we won games together, one or two no remembering.
Sloonei asks justified questions further on, I know zero about their meta at that point, feels like dissecting a complete stranger and it's interesting.
Sloo vs nut? deserves its own post.

I am tired as fuck I will place votes now
one will be @boo the other will be Jack, I am ready to move my votes to TSP for the sake of seeing where it leads with my reeks or nutella because there is also something going on.

Will keep other ISOs for tomorrow.

Good Night
[VOTE: boo] aubergine
[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:24 am What ties were in there? Was rej a clean lynch or was there vote manias and coin flips?

boo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:28 am I think DDL is his teammate.

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:03 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:59 pm So general thoughts on lc? I've seen back and forth but really no solid consensus. Personally this is the first game in awhile where he doesn't seem scummy to me. Buuuuut, every game I've played where I thought he was scum he was civ. Ergo since I dont suspect him I now do suspect him slightly based of that. I'll be reading through his stuff and see what I see.

didnt like his mac and dom interactions earlier in the game
his gif reaction in the NP was fun tho, I liked that
have nothing to say against his vote placements this DP

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:30 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:56 pm Why was Rej even being voted btw?

I asked it myself too.

I think Drago was policylynching me while Speedchuck had an actual case and was interested in its outcome.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:43 am

boo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:28 am I think DDL is his teammate.

spicy. why?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:27 am oh yeah also rej and speed are totally compatible, I had reason for thinking that earlier even

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:33 am Nice.

"As long as all members of your organization are alive, it will stay that way and all actions against you will fail. You may not perform any action yourself to maintain your status."... I don't understand this role at all.

boo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:59 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:33 am Nice.

"As long as all members of your organization are alive, it will stay that way and all actions against you will fail. You may not perform any action yourself to maintain your status."... I don't understand this role at all.

Be something to do with the secret of his role.

Probably can disrupt the wire power (although prez and lester being dead means there probably aren't any more of those left), change the names of his teammates that show up, but not himself.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:21 pm Mindnelding with DDL....What have I become

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:56 pm Not feeling the last minute switch and swoop onto tony after the lc cfd failed.

I may be tin foiling a bit here, but I think ddl was trying to redirect it didnt work so he switched off. Among a few other things which I can elaborate on later. Working sl can only bop in.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:30 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:27 am oh yeah also rej and speed are totally compatible, I had reason for thinking that earlier even

lol you always do this

Even though I was the one to start the case on D1, and could have easily changed the lynch, it's clearly a part of my master plan. Less scum is better because then it's harder to find us.

Yes.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:59 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:58 pm So the drago-rej thing holds then

If I was scumdrago, I’d get townRej lynched for free.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:19 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:30 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:27 am oh yeah also rej and speed are totally compatible, I had reason for thinking that earlier even

lol you always do this

Even though I was the one to start the case on D1, and could have easily changed the lynch, it's clearly a part of my master plan. Less scum is better because then it's harder to find us.

Yes.

Correct me if you are wrong but you jumped on the case I started on D1.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:21 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:53 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:24 am

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:44 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:32 am Well in that case, there's not really much for me to do. Could explain my read on Rej or Mac maybe. But...nah.

wow you really give zero fucks this game, you must be a civ, you would never fuck up your mafia brethern like that? playing this jaded?

did anything else in this DP caught your attention? I haven't seen many reads about Mac. He just seems to carry some energy with him, energy I haven't seen in much of his D0/D1 plays.

Is the first half of this post a sarcasm? Because it seems like one to me.

tbh I am 50/50, it's true that Dragos overall behaviour in mafia changed, from game to game he gives less a fuck, that is reasonable if you busy yourself with other things, but still a mafia drago wouldn't make himself such an easy target I feel, tho town drago tends to do help town in any kind of form

Those two fifties have completely opposite meanings

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:02 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:19 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:30 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:27 am oh yeah also rej and speed are totally compatible, I had reason for thinking that earlier even

lol you always do this

Even though I was the one to start the case on D1, and could have easily changed the lynch, it's clearly a part of my master plan. Less scum is better because then it's harder to find us.

Yes.

Correct me if you are wrong but you jumped on the case I started on D1.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:21 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:53 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:24 am

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:44 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:32 am Well in that case, there's not really much for me to do. Could explain my read on Rej or Mac maybe. But...nah.

wow you really give zero fucks this game, you must be a civ, you would never fuck up your mafia brethern like that? playing this jaded?

did anything else in this DP caught your attention? I haven't seen many reads about Mac. He just seems to carry some energy with him, energy I haven't seen in much of his D0/D1 plays.

Is the first half of this post a sarcasm? Because it seems like one to me.

tbh I am 50/50, it's true that Dragos overall behaviour in mafia changed, from game to game he gives less a fuck, that is reasonable if you busy yourself with other things, but still a mafia drago wouldn't make himself such an easy target I feel, tho town drago tends to do help town in any kind of form

Those two fifties have completely opposite meanings

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

This is where I started.

I have no idea where you started.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:15 pm Rej flipping that specific role should give us some soft clears yeah? Will look at vote count tomorrow and figure it out but we should be able to start POEing this game imo

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:04 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:15 pm Rej flipping that specific role should give us some soft clears yeah? Will look at vote count tomorrow and figure it out but we should be able to start POEing this game imo

You mean the wolves would try harder to save him, given his value?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:19 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:04 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:15 pm Rej flipping that specific role should give us some soft clears yeah? Will look at vote count tomorrow and figure it out but we should be able to start POEing this game imo

You mean the wolves would try harder to save him, given his value?

On balance I’d think so, yeah. Either directly by defending him or indirectly with votes. I wouldn’t bank the game on no wolves bussing obviously, but we should be able to start getting a narrow POE I think.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:56 pm @sig Can you explain why you suspect me?

sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:47 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:19 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:04 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:15 pm Rej flipping that specific role should give us some soft clears yeah? Will look at vote count tomorrow and figure it out but we should be able to start POEing this game imo

You mean the wolves would try harder to save him, given his value?

On balance I’d think so, yeah. Either directly by defending him or indirectly with votes. I wouldn’t bank the game on no wolves bussing obviously, but we should be able to start getting a narrow POE I think.

I'd agree no last minute switch to him, by that I mean sinxe hw was leading, is a wolf. Early day voters who havent been around maybe. Though If I had to pick someone who played the hard distance game it would be Jack and ofc anyone who was a self pres vote can still be considered.

Overall, I'd say we can further narrow down the field amongst those who weren't active within the last few hours if they weren't attempting to save rej, which I don't think anyone was openly trying to save him just redirecting.

I also wouldn't clear any of the other wagons due to the flip since we did have two choices so I'd still be on the lookout in regards to sloonie and collins.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:11 am @Turnip Head is replacing Zemmi

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:47 am [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine