Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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mindmeldstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:00 pmthis reaction immediately makes me worried that you are taking advantage of my paranoia on hally to frame us as having to contain one scum
im getting the sense that your playstyle is just something im gonna be paranoid about tbh
does anyone tr nut? and can you tell me why if so? because i don’t feel itnutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:04 pmnah I don't think it's for sure at this point, I had you as both town earlier but I have worries nowstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:00 pmthis reaction immediately makes me worried that you are taking advantage of my paranoia on hally to frame us as having to contain one scum
im getting the sense that your playstyle is just something im gonna be paranoid about tbh
wow am i that unmemorable smhNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:40 pm I had SPF/Hally as both town early but I haven’t seen Hally lately so my very smol brain is forgetting her
I have very smol lizard brain okHally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:19 amwow am i that unmemorable smhNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:40 pm I had SPF/Hally as both town early but I haven’t seen Hally lately so my very smol brain is forgetting her
can you explain this one more?
just ftr, i’ve played with alison, mac and tutuu a fair but and i think i can read them pretty well. so while you are correct that i tr them quickly, it was partially due to meta. idk how this changes your reading of it, if at allstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:25 pm i am reading the ISO of everyone here and giving my short thoughts. to keep it interesting, i will out a GTH read on every player i ISO
alison - good vibes. good reads. confident and assertive without being reckless. gth town
coliniscool - good luck on your new job. you have no content. gth town for calling me open scum, i guess
drwilgy - playing very loosely. hard to tell what his thought process is. i like his response to alison's pressure in this post:
it's notable that drwilgy's motivation here isn't to discredit alison for attacking him - it's to defend the validity of his own reads. i like that he's standing his ground without overreacting or making it into something bigger. gth townDrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:53 pmI have quite abit of experience with Mac being incorrect.
And don't get me wrong. I'm not ignoring their reads, but I'm not going to be swayed away from my own reads without proper reason.
Even now Hally has made me feel better about Tutuu.
I must say, I dislike your opposition to differing opinions here. It feels like you are invalidating mine by means of reads of others. In a world where the others are also town, are our reads not all of equal value?
dyachei - asks a bunch of softball questions and then outs a list of reads. i have no idea how they went from point A to point B with their thought process. i liked their thoughtful reply to alison's sr on samu. gth town
Dyslexicon - openly not reading the game. my initial thought is that dys scum would probably be trying to assert their presence more instead of openly declaring that they have no intent to try. the laziness might point to them being town. gth town
fallenprince - no content
hally - this is the initial post from hally that pinged me:
it felt like hally's focus was to get themselves integrated into the townbloc & pocket them as opposed to genuinely scumhunting. i did not like how quickly hally townread the main people who were asserting their presence
but their iso isn't as bad as i remember it being - their read on tutuu actually seems pretty genuine and i liked their thoughts about me. maybe gth town
herm - not much substance yet. i am whelmed. gth town though
justplayingitcool - big reaction to being sr'd early in the game. from then, their tone became incredibly casual and relaxed. their casual tone does not align with their stressed out reaction to being scumread at the beginning of the game. gth scum
long con - hasn't posted
MacDougall - confident tone while being coy about his thought process. at the very least, i feel that there are gears turning in macdougall's head. his solving does not strike me as fake so far and i like his pressure on justplayingitcool. gth town
master radishes - i do not like any of his posts. reads align with the consensus. boring. gth scum
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - likes lobster biqsue. lock town. i like that they are actively rejecting opportunities to become a de-facto leader of the game. gth town
nutella - this might just be a playstyle difference but i have not loved her reads or her tone yet. a lot of her posts feel hedgy. i don't always see how she goes from point a to point b in her reads. eh. gth scum
odmderta - i do not like his reads but i think his reads are genuine. gth town
poison chan - i like her energy and her inquisitiveness. only concern is that she is being overly diplomatic. gth town
Samusamu - theyve said a lot but have concluded very little. waiting for them to post more content before i make a decision. gth scum because i feel that they're struggling to integrate themselves into the game a bit
sprityo - awkward reaction to mac's push. i like their follow up reads a little bit but nothing has stood out to me much. gth scum
tedxtr - "i am playing scummy on purpose" felt a little fake to me but i like their frustration and their change in tone since that point. i also kind of tr their push on me. gth town i guess
Timsup2nothin - it was kind of scummy when he asked me why he would sheep my avatar reads when those reads were clearly not serious. his tone feels overly concerned with how people are perceiving him but i do like his more recent analysis. gth scum
tutuu - locktown because of the chika avi. i also think her frustration with ted + her subsequent tr on him felt really genuine. gth town
why?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:26 pmHe is town thoMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:49 pm I take back what I said about sprit reading the game correctly.
idk this is pretty towny to meSamusamu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:36 pm Okey, page 15.
And u guys will know a new term, the "samulist"
A samulist is a list where 50% of player are antitown. Easy to learn dont think
So between justolayingitcool, poison, macdougall and nutella have to at least two antitown if not, then I'll make a fool of myself again in an English game, and I'll have to stop bragging about the readings I do in my native language and learn to play like an avocado? Meh, I'd rather go for the glory.
Justplaying isnt genuine, acting like doenst care and have some red noob mafia tipical flags.
Poison is fluffing too.much and only going for some scumhunting when being pressured, also doing too much pocketing between fluffy post.
Nutella seems oportunistic and not to much focused in scumreading.
Macdougall is my gut read, also dont liking the momentum of how he change between active and reactive, rethinking probably is the deepwolf i can read in this game, cant buy the pointed post meanwhile being up. Is still probably he being the rogue cause i can see nutella, poison and justplayingitcol as budies together in some way but not with macdougall. So rogue or deepwolf can explain my gut read.
If someone ask me.to.forget these four player probably a will look into tim and drwilgy as prob mafias.
There are a group of nai at this moment like, herm, collin, dyslexicon, fallen... Probably i'm forgetting someone
Latest post of oddmerta let me some.good vibes, weaktown. Also want to interact with him
Staypositivefriend is between null to scum and scum to null.for moments, like some post can.be genuine and others oportunistic, i think i pointed some of the oportunistics ones.
Alise is going to hard with de towncore to be deepwolfing, also like hally in that core both are town read, but i have to say that the tuutuu early game was better than the last relaxed post in these pages weak town read.
Nanook, ted and spirityo are locktown for me for momentum Pressure and how nobody disagree A lot of vague arguments.
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:26 pm just realized that juliet replaced into fallen prince. i would gth scumread her and i dont feel like explaining why rn
Let's not play this game.spf, meet jules, the nicest person everstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:52 pmyeah it's because i had just finished figuring out my reads on the other 20 players and i didn't feel like going back and figuring out why my gut pinged you as scumjuliets wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:48 pmI find it ironic that you would imply my town leans were no good without explanation yet you scum read me without explanation. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe you're tired or have other things to do but I would appreciate some kind of explanation when you have time/energy.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:26 pm just realized that juliet replaced into fallen prince. i would gth scumread her and i dont feel like explaining why rn
looking back, it's because i felt that your tone coming into the game was overly diplomatic and overly cooperative. it felt like you were trying really hard not to step on anyones toes. looking at your iso, i don't find you as scummy as i initially did because it looks like a personality thing instead of an alignment thing
This post pinged me. I don't think Colin believes this and I've played with him in a few games where the mafia adopted a completely different strategy. Who was killing inactives in Jack Attack?
this is kind of a good pointMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:54 pm I forgot to write a thing for tedxtr because he was below the screen lol.
Tedxtr - Has felt off since the get go. I don't buy that he was playing scummy on purpose. If he was playing scummy on purpose why did he get upset for being scumread? Wouldn't that be the intention?
Well, at least we know you aren't his buddy.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:36 pm [VOTE: alison] aubergine sorry pal but I gotta sheep sprit
fwiw i just did that to force myself to take stances. if i didnt make myself give GTH reads then every other read i outed would be "null". it was more for my benefit than for everyone elsesAlison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:31 amstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:26 pm just realized that juliet replaced into fallen prince. i would gth scumread her and i dont feel like explaining why rn
I think juliets is just town. Catchup was good. Nothing amazingly standout but had a thread of town purity to it. I'm not going to gamble my life savings on this read, but she's done a good job redeeming the slot.
SPF is like, there are some reasons to read her town, but the energy hasn't come back yet and the un-asked for GTH is slightly scummy in a vacuum unless there's meta there. (Town just does whatever, scum feels more of a need to pigeonhole their reads so they can remember what those reads are and act in accordance to them. It simplifies matters for them when their goal is play-acting out the reads.) Let's say... still in the POE, but near the top of it.
Will catch up more as I go.
yeah i have zero frame of reference for radishes style, but a lot of people are tr'ing him off of meta so i'm willing to listen. i just dont see a reason to tr him yet
i didn’t like colin sheeping sprit on that vote because it kinda felt like hiding behind sprit’s push. sprit would be town if colin is scum because a wolf isn’t gonna sheep another wolf onto a villager so blatantlyMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:05 pm Sprityo and Colin voting on Alison makes me just want to turbo one of them. Alison is the most obvious town I have ever seen and hiding behind excuses like "oh gee I can't trust her" is absolutely scummy as fuck. So what if she's good enough as mafia to fool people. Unless she's being anti town here (which she is absolutely not right now) and unless her content is strictly confusing to your read on the game, you should just townclear her.
Specifically I think Colin sheeping Sprityo on it is absolutely worthy of him having about 9 votes on him inside the next 90 minutes.
ok lets get a wagon going. lead the way macMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:13 pmWell that's a fair point. More to the point is that while we have this quite aligned towncore of people all reading each other town we aren't placing wagon pressure anywhere or working as a force.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:12 pmnot enough votes on JPICMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:10 pm People in my lock town reads are currently voting as such:
JPIC 1
Nutella 1
Oddmerta 1
Samusamu 1
tedxtr 1
tutuu 1
No one 1
Someone want to tell me what's wrong with this picture?
Tutuu is also voting for no one, for what reason i will never know.
And finally there are votes on Samusamu and tutuu which make me want to slap those voters with a fish.
does jules ever not have that tone?nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:17 pmno it was juliets' wording I didn't likeColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:15 pm Nutella you should know extremely well that any time my “wording” makes you uncomfortable it means I’m town and I am devoting zero braincells to my play
I've been pinged by the tone of literally all her posts so far
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:56 pmStrangely phrased sentence. It's like you are afraid of saying something too jarring like "I can never trust her" so you preface it with a lamentation to take the edge off. This is a mafia phrasing.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:54 pmI want to trust Alison but she’s firmly in the can’t-ever-fully-trust camp for me unfortunately.juliets wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:52 pmColin, did I miss something? I see you're sheeping sprityo but isn't there anything about Alison you can point to and say scum?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:36 pm [VOTE: alison] aubergine sorry pal but I gotta sheep sprit
[VOTE: nutella] aubergine
Just as a contextless reaction, Colin's comment on Alison is suspicious.Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:45 amMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:56 pmStrangely phrased sentence. It's like you are afraid of saying something too jarring like "I can never trust her" so you preface it with a lamentation to take the edge off. This is a mafia phrasing.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:54 pmI want to trust Alison but she’s firmly in the can’t-ever-fully-trust camp for me unfortunately.juliets wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:52 pmColin, did I miss something? I see you're sheeping sprityo but isn't there anything about Alison you can point to and say scum?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:36 pm [VOTE: alison] aubergine sorry pal but I gotta sheep sprit
why?
squintingColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:57 pm Wow I didn’t even know nutella was getting buried lol damn
I thought about it but felt there was still time to push vanity. Will consolidate onto Colin if you wish.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:10 pm People in my lock town reads are currently voting as such:
JPIC 1
Nutella 1
Oddmerta 1
Samusamu 1
tedxtr 1
tutuu 1
No one 1
Someone want to tell me what's wrong with this picture?
i don’t object to this but i also wanna kill nut
Push whoever but actually push. We need to start creating viable wagons to force scum to make decisions.Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:53 amI thought about it but felt there was still time to push vanity. Will consolidate onto Colin if you wish.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:10 pm People in my lock town reads are currently voting as such:
JPIC 1
Nutella 1
Oddmerta 1
Samusamu 1
tedxtr 1
tutuu 1
No one 1
Someone want to tell me what's wrong with this picture?
Really? I don't see it sorry. I'm also not feeling a nook wagon but would be happy to go on JPIC or whatever.
This is why I’m scumreading herNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:54 am Hally is playing more like g8 and less like jack attack and whatever the other game we’ve played was
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:11 pm So my scumreads this game are gonna be LC...
Kinda getting boring.yea
