The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:58 pm**

timmer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:55 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:51 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:47 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:46 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:44 pm the difference between this game and the last game as far as number of opinions from me goes is that in the previous game the few opinions I had were confident and also correct with little basis required up until maybe like day six.

I defended players I knew were civs and voted for my own teammates because I could, and because it was easy, and it made me seem trustworthy to basically everyone except long con. In this game I have few opinions because I've only read like 1/3 of the pages
Did Kylemii just scum-slip?
whaddya mean
He gives a comparison:
Last game (scum): confident opinions, defended players who were civ, voted for his teammates, acted trustworthy
This game (unknown): I have few opinions because I haven't been around.
Not: I have few opinions because I'm town.
So... Ugh... Luna, is that a serious case? Like, you legit think his word choice here is a scumslip? Or is this a desperate attempt at a case to take pressure off of you...

Honestly, no. My use of the term "scum slip" was a little heavy. I just wanted to point out that Kylemii's excuse for not "being on top of things" was because he's "busy."

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:00 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:53 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:39 pmOther folks I'd be down to lynching: Glorf, Owner, and maaaaaybe JJJ. Need to read up on all of three of them before I decisively side against them.
Prototypical player salad. Y'all want a definition? This is the definition, or at least of the manner of salad that has most frequently caught bad guys in my experience. Put it in the encyclopedia.

"I would be willing to lynch X, Y, Z, or maaaaaaybe W" is literally how I have described player salad in the past.
Recalling the same Seinfeld example I mentioned earlier to Long Con (J Peterman is evil):

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:45 pm
J Peterman wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:43 pm So, from what I've gathered, I'm happiest to vote George, Whatley, or Frank today. And maybe Leo. But less likely Leo.
Peterman, this is no time for player salad! You just talked about everyone, so pick one!

Yes. This is just the kind of Salad I recognize. Excellent reference as well!!

INH

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:00 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:57 pm Who buys INH as a civilian?

I am still undecided, was leaning civ on him but I liked your salad call-out (but again that's kinda why I asked about civs salading because I don't think it's a slam dunk)

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:01 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:57 pm Who buys INH as a civilian?

I'm not really sure how to read INH, but he sure didn't appreciate my suspicions of him yesterday. Feel free to go back and look.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:02 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:53 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:39 pmOther folks I'd be down to lynching: Glorf, Owner, and maaaaaybe JJJ. Need to read up on all of three of them before I decisively side against them.
Prototypical player salad. Y'all want a definition? This is the definition, or at least of the manner of salad that has most frequently caught bad guys in my experience. Put it in the encyclopedia.

"I would be willing to lynch X, Y, Z, or maaaaaaybe W" is literally how I have described player salad in the past.
Reeaal. Also he ignored my (+your) testimony that Luna's behavior is not indicative of a mafia alignment.

I noticed that as well - your ideas sounded sure, and believable, though I haven't checked it out for myself in Luna's other games yet.

I'm happy to put a vote on [VOTE: INH] aubergine instead.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:02 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:57 pm Who buys INH as a civilian?

I haven't put him in my civilian category yet mostly because he no u'd me and responded to my suspicion with what I felt was hostility. He also hasn't made much of a contribution.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:05 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:12 pm Also, LC got me lynched by screwing around in Megaman and as much as I ain’t mad, he wouldn’t be allowed to complain about me doing it to him here.

Hey dude I ain't complainin'!

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:10 pm**

[mention]nutella[/mention], Jack thinks you're bad. Talk about it.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:13 pm**

Speedball is a superhero who is like a living bludger.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:16 pm**

Once my life is no longer endangered, I will happily join the INH lynch

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:18 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:13 pm Speedball is a superhero who is like a living bludger.

Tell me about INH and Soneji.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:20 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:10 pm @nutella, Jack thinks you're bad. Talk about it.

He's wrong.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:24 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:10 pm nutella, Jack thinks you're bad. Talk about it.
He's wrong.

So he's a civilian?

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:28 pm**

I have narrowed down my vote candidates for today and am going to vote for Soneji. I've read back through Jay's case on him a couple of times and buy his points. One thing that I disagree with is Jay agreeing with Soneji about LC being suspect for talking about mechanics. In the world LC and I come from asking mechanics in the thread was something that was done so everyone could see the answers, it was normal and we even had one person known for his abilities in that area. So I don't find LCs asking about mechanics a scum tell at all.

I could also see a vote for INH.

[VOTE: Soneji] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:30 pm**

Soneji has done little but try to get me lynched. GTH, they could be scum, and I am very okay with this train.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:32 pm**

on a related note, I don't feel educated enough on current events to vote in a relevant way, especially not whilr I'm stuck at work.

I am [VOTE: voting] aubergine as a placeholder, I will read and do better tomorrow

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:33 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:24 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:10 pm nutella, Jack thinks you're bad. Talk about it.
He's wrong.
So he's a civilian?

GTH sure, I'm pretty neutral on him though.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:35 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:32 pm on a related note, I don't feel educated enough on current events to vote in a relevant way, especially not whilr I'm stuck at work.

I am [VOTE: voting] aubergine as a placeholder, I will read and do better tomorrow

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:36 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:28 pm I have narrowed down my vote candidates for today and am going to vote for Soneji. I've read back through Jay's case on him a couple of times and buy his points. One thing that I disagree with is Jay agreeing with Soneji about LC being suspect for talking about mechanics. In the world LC and I come from asking mechanics in the thread was something that was done so everyone could see the answers, it was normal and we even had one person known for his abilities in that area. So I don't find LCs asking about mechanics a scum tell at all.

I could also see a vote for INH.

[VOTE: Soneji] aubergine

Sorry, what exactly are the points against Soneji? In your own words, brief as possible.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:37 pm**

Heading to work, will check in in ten or fifteen minutes but then that's it.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:47 pm**

Soneji vote looks fine to me, but I'll stick on Luna.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:52 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:47 pm Soneji vote looks fine to me, but I'll stick on Luna.

Love you too, DH.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:57 pm**

A fond EOD letter from JaggedJimmyJay to you,

Hello, dear friend. It would appear that you and I are once again engaged in Mafia combat (or perhaps this is the first time? Well met!) As the game is played, so must we turn hateful eyes against one another, and lose our humanity in a mindless bloodbath all for the sake of brief psychological stimulation. Please, friend, understand that no matter how cruel I sound, or how arrogant my words, or how distant my emotion -- I love you. I have since the start. The world has funneled us into this bizarre electronic communication arena wherein we may exercise our like passions in concert. It is a beautiful opportunity, and I am forever grateful to share it with you.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:59 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:57 pm A fond EOD letter from JaggedJimmyJay to you,

Hello, dear friend. It would appear that you and I are once again engaged in Mafia combat (or perhaps this is the first time? Well met!) As the game is played, so must we turn hateful eyes against one another, and lose our humanity in a mindless bloodbath all for the sake of brief psychological stimulation. Please, friend, understand that no matter how cruel I sound, or how arrogant my words, or how distant my emotion -- I love you. I have since the start. The world has funneled us into this bizarre electronic communication arena wherein we may exercise our like passions in concert. It is a beautiful opportunity, and I am forever grateful to share it with you.

Go to bed dude

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:00 pm**

Jay's getting loopy quick let's all vote for him

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:01 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:00 pm Jay's getting loopy quick let's all vote for him

I hope that's how I go.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:01 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:36 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:28 pm I have narrowed down my vote candidates for today and am going to vote for Soneji. I've read back through Jay's case on him a couple of times and buy his points. One thing that I disagree with is Jay agreeing with Soneji about LC being suspect for talking about mechanics. In the world LC and I come from asking mechanics in the thread was something that was done so everyone could see the answers, it was normal and we even had one person known for his abilities in that area. So I don't find LCs asking about mechanics a scum tell at all.

I could also see a vote for INH.

[VOTE: Soneji] aubergine
Sorry, what exactly are the points against Soneji? In your own words, brief as possible.

Oh sorry.

1. The fact that he tried to make your talking about mechanics a scum tell (Jay agree with Soneji on this)
2. He explained that he thought Owners Deathly Hallows/Dark Arts thing was a scum slip because he had scum slipped on minor things such as this which is a vague unverifiable way to promote a slip; and when bad guys promote false slip dialogue they usually feel the need to justify try to negate the controversy that surrounds scum slips (the basics of this point and the ones that follow are from Jays case)
3. He smears Qwner for talking about her suspicions so much but people were asking her about it all day - should she just not have responded?
4. He mischaracterizes one of Luna's post.
5. His reasons for voting Turnip Head are not that persuasive. He worms his way into a vote for TH who wanted his head without it seeming like a no-u.

I'm not sure about some of my wording there but I hope it is understandable.

lots of linki

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:10 pm**

An example of a mafioso (Golden in Phenon Mafia) promoting a slip accusation -- this is the sort of thing I had in mind when I spoke of the way Soneji handled the proposed Owner slip. It isn't identical, though the approach is similar (a "real" slip implies some concrete experience with it, akin to Soneji's claims of his own previous little slips which would have been "real").

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:11 pm
Quin wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:We have five scum to catch, and I only have three scum reads so far. Who hasn't posted yet? Let's kill them first. \o/
I don't read this anywhere.

Vote Dyslexicon
I'm going to read through the original post again, but if you're right this is a great catch. This is what a real slip looks like.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:13 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:01 pmOh sorry.

1. The fact that he tried to make your talking about mechanics a scum tell (Jay agree with Soneji on this)
2. He explained that he thought Owners Deathly Hallows/Dark Arts thing was a scum slip because he had scum slipped on minor things such as this which is a vague unverifiable way to promote a slip; and when bad guys promote false slip dialogue they usually feel the need to justify try to negate the controversy that surrounds scum slips (the basics of this point and the ones that follow are from Jays case)
3. He smears Qwner for talking about her suspicions so much but people were asking her about it all day - should she just not have responded?
4. He mischaracterizes one of Luna's post.
5. His reasons for voting Turnip Head are not that persuasive. He worms his way into a vote for TH who wanted his head without it seeming like a no-u.

Which among these points is/are of the greatest interest to you? LC did ask for you to answer in your own words, which you technically did, but this is a very close re-hash of my own case.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:17 pm**

Deadline is in 19 minutes. Closing arguments best arrive now.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:19 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:13 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:01 pmOh sorry.

1. The fact that he tried to make your talking about mechanics a scum tell (Jay agree with Soneji on this)
2. He explained that he thought Owners Deathly Hallows/Dark Arts thing was a scum slip because he had scum slipped on minor things such as this which is a vague unverifiable way to promote a slip; and when bad guys promote false slip dialogue they usually feel the need to justify try to negate the controversy that surrounds scum slips (the basics of this point and the ones that follow are from Jays case)
3. He smears Qwner for talking about her suspicions so much but people were asking her about it all day - should she just not have responded?
4. He mischaracterizes one of Luna's post.
5. His reasons for voting Turnip Head are not that persuasive. He worms his way into a vote for TH who wanted his head without it seeming like a no-u.
Which among these points is/are of the greatest interest to you? LC did ask for you to answer in your own words, which you technically did, but this is a very close re-hash of my own case.

It was really that there were a series of things that spoke to him being bad, not just one or two things. Item 2 was the most interesting to me because I had never thought of it that way and also item 5 because it was so clever, hidden so well. Also, I did say from the beginning that your case is what convinced me and no, that does not mean if Soneji is good I will try to somehow lay that at your doorstep.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:26 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:13 pm Speedball is a superhero who is like a living bludger.
Tell me about INH and Soneji.

I’d rather lynch them than Luna, Bullzeye or Owner.

I don’t have any reason to townread either. Sonjei’s Luna push looks like a known mislynch push. INH’s reactions to pushes on him look kinda suspect.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:39 pm**

Who silenced speedchuck?

Poll ended at Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:37 pmPlease note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

Bullzeye
2
9%

Voters: MacDougall, poutanko

ColinIsCool
1
5%

Voters: Epignosis

DharmaHelper
0

Epignosis
0

Glorfindel
0

insertnamehere
1
5%

Voters: Long Con

Jackofhearts2005
0

JaggedJimmyJay
0

juliets
0

karavalenge
0

Kylemii
0

lapluie
0

Long Con
0

Lunalee
3
14%

Voters: insertnamehere, DharmaHelper, Soneji

MacDougall
2
9%

Voters: Quin, nutella

nutella
0

Owner of a Lonely Heart
2
9%

Voters: karavalenge, ColinIsCool

poutanko
1
5%

Voters: Kylemii

Quin
0

Soneji
5
23%

Voters: juliets, Lunalee, timmer, Jackofhearts2005, JaggedJimmyJay

timmer
0

Peeves (Host/Dead/Mod/NP)
5
23%

Voters: Turnip Head, dunya, sprityo, Dragon D. Luffy, speedchuck

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:41 pm**

I didn't miss the vote, but I see I have logged on three minutes after the poll closed. Boo.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:52 pm**

The Confident Kid

The students realized they would never save their school if they tried to do it in low numbers. They had to team up. So they held a meeting in the Room of Requirement. Kids from all houses came, wanting to help find who was killing their colleagues.

They took turns doing speeches. Some talked more than others, but everyone wanted to contribute.

There was a kid who was a bit different, though. He didn't talk too much, but whenever he did, he made very strong and confident remarks. He pointed at people in that same room and said "I am confident he is one of the culprits".

Something about his attitude pissed the other kids off. Who did he think he was? What evidence did he have to his bold claims?

The next time he did that, one of the other students yelled: "ENOUGH! You are not helping, you are just spying on us. You are one of the New Death Eaters!"

He tried to defend himself, but the mob couldn't be contained. They all started firing spells on him.

Soneji (Hogwarts Student) was lynched.

Abilities:

[Threstal (Even Nights)]
[Felix Felicis]
[Obliviate]

Night 2 Begins!

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:54 pm**

Sloonei replaced Owner of a Lonely Heart
sprityo replaced lapluie

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:55 pm**

Bummer. See ya next time Soneji.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:57 pm**

Dang, I'm sorry Soneji, please play again soon.

Welcome Sloonei and sprityo!

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:03 pm**

Welp. Rip s. Welcome s and s.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:06 pm**

Owner of a Sloonley Heart
spritpluie

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:13 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:08 pm Sloonei is mafia

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:14 pm**

If you guys want to lynch me tomorrow, fine. Just please don't use "Kara posted a comic strip that had dark humor in it" as your reasoning.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:14 pm**

hello everyone, so glad to be transfer rd to this amazing magical school of hope!

JJJ, your name fusion for me is awful

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:20 pm**

Also I'll add this for balance purposes.

Sloonei and sprityo are immune to kills in this night.

This won't affect tomorrow's lynch, just this night.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:21 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:57 pm A fond EOD letter from JaggedJimmyJay to you,

Hello, dear friend. It would appear that you and I are once again engaged in Mafia combat (or perhaps this is the first time? Well met!) As the game is played, so must we turn hateful eyes against one another, and lose our humanity in a mindless bloodbath all for the sake of brief psychological stimulation. Please, friend, understand that no matter how cruel I sound, or how arrogant my words, or how distant my emotion -- I love you. I have since the start. The world has funneled us into this bizarre electronic communication arena wherein we may exercise our like passions in concert. It is a beautiful opportunity, and I am forever grateful to share it with you.

Rightbackatcha from Glorf,

Yes, dear friend, we are once again engaged in Mafia combat. That said, I am honoured and privileged to have people of your calibre and character here to play with. There is no hate here from me (not towards you at least) and I trust you may join me in the civil and respectful exchange of friends as befits a true gentleman as yourself. It is indeed a beautiful opportunity and I too, am happy to share it with you.

My apologies for sleeping in through last EoD. I was exhausted and forgot to set the alarm

I see that Master-Sloonei has joined us in place of poor Owner. This is great news in my view. This game now contains the elite of Mafia experience and skill of the Syndicate and I look forward to a cracking game!

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:43 pm**

I think thematically it makes more sense that the previous owner of my lonely spot was an imposter who had taken polyjuice potion to resemble me. I’m the real Sloonei.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:53 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:08 pm Sloonei is mafia

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:06 pm**

My campaign against playing catch-up has not ended, so don’t expect to read this thread cover to cover. I’m in the middle of doing lots of homework right now but I’ll have free time later tonight. If anyone wants to talk at me about key points in the game or direct my attention to anything interesting that’d be groovy. If not I’ll just throw myself blindly into the conversation when I can.

Also lapluie and I still have not really played a game together on the Syndicate.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:10 pm**

Goodbye old fish hello new fish.

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:55 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:06 pm Owner of a Sloonley Heart
spritpluie

Slooner of a Broken Heart
Laprityo

It’s like you’re not even really trying.

The Syndicate

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