The Syndicate

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:18 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:16 pm give me the name of 3 wolves plz

Nanook / Scotty / falcon

That's where I'd look today personally.

Maybe 112 but that's because she hasn't done much. Would like to get a better read on the slot.

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:53 pm If the turbo game never happened I’d probably have anne as lock town here and yes I know a turbo and a real game aren’t the same but it is what it is and I gotta be careful

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:58 pm

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:18 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:16 pm give me the name of 3 wolves plz

Nanook / Scotty / falcon

That's where I'd look today personally.

Maybe 112 but that's because she hasn't done much. Would like to get a better read on the slot.

I have a similar poe, add wilgy in there because I doubt wisdom wasn’t bussed, and wilgy actually tried to hop off wisdom towards eod yesterday and at one point earlier in the game didn’t wanna vote her because the wagon was too big but then he was okay voting lc even though his wagon was just as big. Also there is no depth to any of wilgys reads and he has the most potato push on me ever where all he did was quote a line where I said I’m not okay voting anne even if I’m paranoid of her I did tr her pretty strongly at the start and because if she’s town she’s probably correct on wisdom, if anything that should be a point In my favour especially if anne is town so I have no idea how he inferred a sr from that line. It’s very reachy to say the least.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:44 pm But for reelz tho, Ilario's move on me yesterday def feels wolf sided

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:01 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:58 pm

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:18 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:16 pm give me the name of 3 wolves plz

Nanook / Scotty / falcon

That's where I'd look today personally.

Maybe 112 but that's because she hasn't done much. Would like to get a better read on the slot.

I have a similar poe, add wilgy in there because I doubt wisdom wasn’t bussed, and wilgy actually tried to hop off wisdom towards eod yesterday and at one point earlier in the game didn’t wanna vote her because the wagon was too big but then he was okay voting lc even though his wagon was just as big. Also there is no depth to any of wilgys reads and he has the most potato push on me ever where all he did was quote a line where I said I’m not okay voting anne even if I’m paranoid of her I did tr her pretty strongly at the start and because if she’s town she’s probably correct on wisdom, if anything that should be a point In my favour especially if anne is town so I have no idea how he inferred a sr from that line. It’s very reachy to say the least.

yeah I'm gonna step in here

Wilgy did try to "spice up eod" but unless they're teammed with rondo and decided they didn't want a 5-5 tie they did end up placing the "saving" vote

granted michelle was also present and could have made a saving vote to but

Wilgy did move back on to Wisdom.

though yes wilgy's reads don't have depth in general and that is a valid concern to have

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:23 pm anne why is illario town. They're like tonally so dead

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:06 am I gambled that my vote would be pointless for EOD and I was right

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:09 am illario what is your take on Mac rn?

How do the worlds change with LC v/w?

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:10 am Fwiw mac I think ur town and if ur tunnels were correct I’m inclined to think either lc or Anne would have probably nkd instead of whoever else has been killed. But eh u don’t have to believe that if u don’t want to, this is a low effort game from me so I wouldn’t expect my calls to be that accurate as normal, and so far it hasn’t been but Atleast I was right on Sean so I’ll take that as a victory.

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:11 am

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:10 am Fwiw mac I think ur town and if ur tunnels were correct I’m inclined to think either lc or Anne would have probably nkd instead of whoever else has been killed. But eh u don’t have to believe that if u don’t want to, this is a low effort game from me so I wouldn’t expect my calls to be that accurate as normal, and so far it hasn’t been but Atleast I was right on Sean so I’ll take that as a victory.

I mean his tunnels are anne and lc so

they wouldn't be nked in that world in they're correct?

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:11 am

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:10 am Fwiw mac I think ur town and if ur tunnels were correct I’m inclined to think either lc or Anne would have probably nkd instead of whoever else has been killed. But eh u don’t have to believe that if u don’t want to, this is a low effort game from me so I wouldn’t expect my calls to be that accurate as normal, and so far it hasn’t been but Atleast I was right on Sean so I’ll take that as a victory.

I mean his tunnels are anne and lc so

they wouldn't be nked in that world in they're correct?

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:15 am eh w/e

if people back up your tone being ok for you this game it's ~fine.

it does skeeve me that you were like "why is it bad for me to townread wisdom" then later say "idk why i was townreading wisdom they should be null"

I don't know why a lot of people said that either, it just kinda isn't true for her in my experience

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:57 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:53 pm If the turbo game never happened I’d probably have anne as lock town here and yes I know a turbo and a real game aren’t the same but it is what it is and I gotta be careful

What happened in the turbo game?

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:01 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:58 pm

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:18 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:16 pm give me the name of 3 wolves plz

Nanook / Scotty / falcon

That's where I'd look today personally.

Maybe 112 but that's because she hasn't done much. Would like to get a better read on the slot.

I have a similar poe, add wilgy in there because I doubt wisdom wasn’t bussed, and wilgy actually tried to hop off wisdom towards eod yesterday and at one point earlier in the game didn’t wanna vote her because the wagon was too big but then he was okay voting lc even though his wagon was just as big. Also there is no depth to any of wilgys reads and he has the most potato push on me ever where all he did was quote a line where I said I’m not okay voting anne even if I’m paranoid of her I did tr her pretty strongly at the start and because if she’s town she’s probably correct on wisdom, if anything that should be a point In my favour especially if anne is town so I have no idea how he inferred a sr from that line. It’s very reachy to say the least.

yeah I'm gonna step in here

Wilgy did try to "spice up eod" but unless they're teammed with rondo and decided they didn't want a 5-5 tie they did end up placing the "saving" vote

granted michelle was also present and could have made a saving vote to but

Wilgy did move back on to Wisdom.

though yes wilgy's reads don't have depth in general and that is a valid concern to have

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:18 am So Ilario, I really need you to talk me into how Mac has been towny here.

In a vacuum for an anon player, I'd take his behavior as fairly sus, and arguably the towniest thing about him is the way that LC and Anne, whom I still townread, have treated him

and like I'm not singling you out for this read I'm just

baffled that the msot scumread he's been is "yeah one of these three people is a wolf bc gamestate" and he's on that list

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:22 am Dolby why are u trying this game btw? Every town game I’ve seen u, u were a potato in them (no offense). What inspired u to try here?

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:21 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:15 am eh w/e

if people back up your tone being ok for you this game it's ~fine.

it does skeeve me that you were like "why is it bad for me to townread wisdom" then later say "idk why i was townreading wisdom they should be null"

I don't know why a lot of people said that either, it just kinda isn't true for her in my experience

When did I say the first quote?

But for clarity I’ll explain what happened. I spitted out a bunch of trs like I usually do at the start of games. They usually don’t mean much it’s always based on gut and usually a mafia is in there because I’m not putting too much thought into it. Then later on someone asked about that earlier read on wisdom so I opened her iso, it was pretty empty so I called her null. That’s a pretty normal and fair progression and hence why I find it weird wilgy is jumping on it. Mac started the game shielding wisdom too and actively tried to cw anyone not named her much more louder than anyone else did. Other players switched their vote eod onto other cws too that weren’t wisdom. So I fail to see how it’s specifically scummy for me with how I treated wisdom when I was okay with her being pushed and didn’t actively try to cw someone else loudly. Like anne said, If I’m scum I either commit to bussing wisdom since she’s good as dead or I vote a cw to save her, I gain no benefit from just parking on falcon and peacing out

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:21 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:15 am eh w/e

if people back up your tone being ok for you this game it's ~fine.

it does skeeve me that you were like "why is it bad for me to townread wisdom" then later say "idk why i was townreading wisdom they should be null"

I don't know why a lot of people said that either, it just kinda isn't true for her in my experience

When did I say the first quote?

But for clarity I’ll explain what happened. I spitted out a bunch of trs like I usually do at the start of games. They usually don’t mean much it’s always based on gut and usually a mafia is in there because I’m not putting too much thought into it. Then later on someone asked about that earlier read on wisdom so I opened her iso, it was pretty empty so I called her null. That’s a pretty normal and fair progression and hence why I find it weird wilgy is jumping on it. Mac started the game shielding wisdom too and actively tried to cw anyone not named her much more louder than anyone else did. Other players switched their vote eod onto other cws too that weren’t wisdom. So I fail to see how it’s specifically scummy for me with how I treated wisdom when I was okay with her being pushed and didn’t actively try to cw someone else loudly. Like anne said, If I’m scum I either commit to bussing wisdom since she’s good as dead or I vote a cw to save her, I gain no benefit from just parking on falcon and peacing out

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:30 am

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:21 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:15 am eh w/e

if people back up your tone being ok for you this game it's ~fine.

it does skeeve me that you were like "why is it bad for me to townread wisdom" then later say "idk why i was townreading wisdom they should be null"

I don't know why a lot of people said that either, it just kinda isn't true for her in my experience

When did I say the first quote?

But for clarity I’ll explain what happened. I spitted out a bunch of trs like I usually do at the start of games. They usually don’t mean much it’s always based on gut and usually a mafia is in there because I’m not putting too much thought into it. Then later on someone asked about that earlier read on wisdom so I opened her iso, it was pretty empty so I called her null. That’s a pretty normal and fair progression and hence why I find it weird wilgy is jumping on it. Mac started the game shielding wisdom too and actively tried to cw anyone not named her much more louder than anyone else did. Other players switched their vote eod onto other cws too that weren’t wisdom. So I fail to see how it’s specifically scummy for me with how I treated wisdom when I was okay with her being pushed and didn’t actively try to cw someone else loudly. Like anne said, If I’m scum I either commit to bussing wisdom since she’s good as dead or I vote a cw to save her, I gain no benefit from just parking on falcon and peacing out

tbh you are right, the egregiousness scale goes Mac>you>>Michelle

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:27 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:18 am So Ilario, I really need you to talk me into how Mac has been towny here.

In a vacuum for an anon player, I'd take his behavior as fairly sus, and arguably the towniest thing about him is the way that LC and Anne, whom I still townread, have treated him

and like I'm not singling you out for this read I'm just

baffled that the msot scumread he's been is "yeah one of these three people is a wolf bc gamestate" and he's on that list

Mostly just tone/conviction/drive to solve

His actual reads have been very concerning, yeah. And he switched his read on seanzie yesterday eod in a weird way.

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:34 am Shield might not be the right word but u did try to use wagonomics to imply she’s town in a similar manner u used on rask in the swag city game

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:25 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:01 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:58 pm

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:18 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:16 pm give me the name of 3 wolves plz

Nanook / Scotty / falcon

That's where I'd look today personally.

Maybe 112 but that's because she hasn't done much. Would like to get a better read on the slot.

I have a similar poe, add wilgy in there because I doubt wisdom wasn’t bussed, and wilgy actually tried to hop off wisdom towards eod yesterday and at one point earlier in the game didn’t wanna vote her because the wagon was too big but then he was okay voting lc even though his wagon was just as big. Also there is no depth to any of wilgys reads and he has the most potato push on me ever where all he did was quote a line where I said I’m not okay voting anne even if I’m paranoid of her I did tr her pretty strongly at the start and because if she’s town she’s probably correct on wisdom, if anything that should be a point In my favour especially if anne is town so I have no idea how he inferred a sr from that line. It’s very reachy to say the least.

yeah I'm gonna step in here

Wilgy did try to "spice up eod" but unless they're teammed with rondo and decided they didn't want a 5-5 tie they did end up placing the "saving" vote

granted michelle was also present and could have made a saving vote to but

Wilgy did move back on to Wisdom.

though yes wilgy's reads don't have depth in general and that is a valid concern to have

Lol no

Like I get what ur saying but there’s nothing to suggest he wasn’t trying to test the waters to see if anyone else would jump on his bw and when he saw nobody did then he chickened out back to wisdom

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:55 pm Spiced it up. Voted LC instead of Wis. 1 more then there's a tie.

How do ties work?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:58 pm [VOTE: LC] aubergine

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:59 pm [VOTE: LC ] aubergine

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:36 am The most concerning thing about mac is that the only time he’s engaged on something I’ve said about him is when I doubted his alignment for a moment

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:34 am

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:27 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:18 am So Ilario, I really need you to talk me into how Mac has been towny here.

In a vacuum for an anon player, I'd take his behavior as fairly sus, and arguably the towniest thing about him is the way that LC and Anne, whom I still townread, have treated him

and like I'm not singling you out for this read I'm just

baffled that the msot scumread he's been is "yeah one of these three people is a wolf bc gamestate" and he's on that list

Mostly just tone/conviction/drive to solve

His actual reads have been very concerning, yeah. And he switched his read on seanzie yesterday eod in a weird way.

Explain how my seanzie read switch was weird.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:36 am Tell me, when you suspect two players of being mafia and those two players plus another that you aren't reading either way vote a separate player, do you develop an implicit bias that the recipient of said votes might be town by proxy?

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:37 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:36 am Tell me, when you suspect two players of being mafia and those two players plus another that you aren't reading either way vote a separate player, do you develop an implicit bias that the recipient of said votes might be town by proxy?

yeah but you shift your read on them when the "town by proxy" votee flips mafia

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:35 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:55 pm Spiced it up. Voted LC instead of Wis. 1 more then there's a tie.

How do ties work?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:58 pm [VOTE: LC] aubergine

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:59 pm [VOTE: LC ] aubergine

and wilgy switched back to wisdom without saying anything.

Assuming that he didn't know Rondo didn't have a vote, he could've thought that staying in place would have caused an LC yeet

objectively not true

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:37 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:34 am

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:27 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:18 am So Ilario, I really need you to talk me into how Mac has been towny here.

In a vacuum for an anon player, I'd take his behavior as fairly sus, and arguably the towniest thing about him is the way that LC and Anne, whom I still townread, have treated him

and like I'm not singling you out for this read I'm just

baffled that the msot scumread he's been is "yeah one of these three people is a wolf bc gamestate" and he's on that list

Mostly just tone/conviction/drive to solve

His actual reads have been very concerning, yeah. And he switched his read on seanzie yesterday eod in a weird way.

Explain how my seanzie read switch was weird.

Because he was townie and I expect you to have maintained ur tr on him. You were reading him correctly and then outta nowhere switch to calling him scum

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:36 am Tell me, when you suspect two players of being mafia and those two players plus another that you aren't reading either way vote a separate player, do you develop an implicit bias that the recipient of said votes might be town by proxy?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:59 pm @DrWilgy

Get back on Wisdom please

@Michelle

Help, get on Wisdom

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:59 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:59 pm @DrWilgy

Get back on Wisdom please

@Michelle

Help, get on Wisdom

Ok