The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:06 pm Gather round the fire folks, tonight we feast on rotisserie rodent

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:20 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:49 am Jack, is K-ness still town to you, and if so, why?

Nah.

He’s doing what I was townreading him for not doing. That is, talking about being overwhelmed instead of pushing forward.

It’s fine to be overwhelmed moving from HCRealms to the Syndicate but to effectively town, moving past that stage is essential. Initial overwhelmed to effort ratios for Fredwood, CBob, Silver and Jack were all alignment indicative. That may be an unfair statement given the different player styles but I keep expecting Kness to start swimming and he hasn’t.

K-Ness wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:59 pmtrying to set me up as an easy Day 4 lynch

K-Ness wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:59 pmI've already explained that I'm too used to relying on night powers (reflected in the way I run my games since I tend to give players powerful roles, which makes balancing a pain in the butt). But fine. I'll put forth more of an effort to get my head in the game.

I had a read on sloonei not liking the way he was questioning the rules. I feel far more confident in his being town given the outcome on Lunalee.

Jack pinged me for similar reasons to sloonei, and he's one of the hardest players to read in a game. He also should be familiar enough with me as a mafia player to know when I'm scum, I do my best to slide by unnoticed. That means I tend to post as little as possible and just piggyback on people's hunches. His flopping opinion of me feels more like he's trying to set me up as an easy Day 4 lynch than a real assessment of my standings.

Quin was another early ping for me. Can't explain too much detail, just a vibe I was getting from the posts. Ditto for Bullzeye at this point.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:29 pm sadly though it looks like I have missed the end of day, I don’t even know what luna’s Flip is yet

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:10 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:29 pm sadly though it looks like I have missed the end of day, I don’t even know what luna’s Flip is yet

Am I the only one who think this stinks?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:19 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:10 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:29 pm sadly though it looks like I have missed the end of day, I don’t even know what luna’s Flip is yet

Am I the only one who think this stinks?

Nope.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:20 pmWhy tho

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:23 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:20 pmWhy tho

My initial reaction was something like "faaaaake".

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:25 pmWell I disagree, I think it's more likely legit. But ok.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:20 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:19 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:10 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:29 pm sadly though it looks like I have missed the end of day, I don’t even know what luna’s Flip is yet

Am I the only one who think this stinks?

Nope.

Why tho

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:25 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:19 pm I'm not on board with the Simon sussers atm, it feels like the wrong direction to take.

He wouldn't need a coach to make those posts anyways, and I don't find his posts inherently suspicious.

I thought the suspicion was more about how luna treated him than anything he said himself.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:07 pm

K-Ness wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:59 pmI've already explained that I'm too used to relying on night powers (reflected in the way I run my games since I tend to give players powerful roles, which makes balancing a pain in the butt). But fine. I'll put forth more of an effort to get my head in the game.

I had a read on sloonei not liking the way he was questioning the rules. I feel far more confident in his being town given the outcome on Lunalee.

Jack pinged me for similar reasons to sloonei, and he's one of the hardest players to read in a game. He also should be familiar enough with me as a mafia player to know when I'm scum, I do my best to slide by unnoticed. That means I tend to post as little as possible and just piggyback on people's hunches. His flopping opinion of me feels more like he's trying to set me up as an easy Day 4 lynch than a real assessment of my standings.

Quin was another early ping for me. Can't explain too much detail, just a vibe I was getting from the posts. Ditto for Bullzeye at this point.

What do you make of the wagon on Luna and how it formed? Do you think anyone looks particularly good or bad from it?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:29 pm Could be right. How does sprityo/Lunalee look?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:10 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:29 pm sadly though it looks like I have missed the end of day, I don’t even know what luna’s Flip is yet

Am I the only one who think this stinks?

K-Ness wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:46 pm
Bullzeye's remark about someone being absent Day 2 was odd considering there wasn't a Day 2. But the overall feel from his ISO leaves me leaning town on him.

K-Ness wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:59 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:20 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:49 am Jack, is K-ness still town to you, and if so, why?

Nah.

He’s doing what I was townreading him for not doing. That is, talking about being overwhelmed instead of pushing forward.

It’s fine to be overwhelmed moving from HCRealms to the Syndicate but to effectively town, moving past that stage is essential. Initial overwhelmed to effort ratios for Fredwood, CBob, Silver and Jack were all alignment indicative. That may be an unfair statement given the different player styles but I keep expecting Kness to start swimming and he hasn’t.

I've already explained that I'm too used to relying on night powers (reflected in the way I run my games since I tend to give players powerful roles, which makes balancing a pain in the butt). But fine. I'll put forth more of an effort to get my head in the game.

I had a read on sloonei not liking the way he was questioning the rules. I feel far more confident in his being town given the outcome on Lunalee.

Jack pinged me for similar reasons to sloonei, and he's one of the hardest players to read in a game. He also should be familiar enough with me as a mafia player to know when I'm scum, I do my best to slide by unnoticed. That means I tend to post as little as possible and just piggyback on people's hunches. His flopping opinion of me feels more like he's trying to set me up as an easy Day 4 lynch than a real assessment of my standings.

Quin was another early ping for me. Can't explain too much detail, just a vibe I was getting from the posts. Ditto for Bullzeye at this point.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:02 pm

K-Ness wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:59 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:20 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:49 am Jack, is K-ness still town to you, and if so, why?

Nah.

He’s doing what I was townreading him for not doing. That is, talking about being overwhelmed instead of pushing forward.

It’s fine to be overwhelmed moving from HCRealms to the Syndicate but to effectively town, moving past that stage is essential. Initial overwhelmed to effort ratios for Fredwood, CBob, Silver and Jack were all alignment indicative. That may be an unfair statement given the different player styles but I keep expecting Kness to start swimming and he hasn’t.

I've already explained that I'm too used to relying on night powers (reflected in the way I run my games since I tend to give players powerful roles, which makes balancing a pain in the butt). But fine. I'll put forth more of an effort to get my head in the game.

I had a read on sloonei not liking the way he was questioning the rules. I feel far more confident in his being town given the outcome on Lunalee.

Jack pinged me for similar reasons to sloonei, and he's one of the hardest players to read in a game. He also should be familiar enough with me as a mafia player to know when I'm scum, I do my best to slide by unnoticed. That means I tend to post as little as possible and just piggyback on people's hunches. His flopping opinion of me feels more like he's trying to set me up as an easy Day 4 lynch than a real assessment of my standings.

Quin was another early ping for me. Can't explain too much detail, just a vibe I was getting from the posts. Ditto for Bullzeye at this point.

Brah plz.

K-Ness wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:46 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:07 pm

K-Ness wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:59 pmLong Con gave no indication of his feelings towards Luna, only voting for her because he felt sloonei wasn't bad. He had the opportunity to push on sloonei if he wanted to try to bolster Luna's defenses and didn't take it. Makes me lean town on him. Especially when you factor in his mistake of thinking Elohcin was the first night kill. It's just a slip I don't see a mafia member making in the game.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 14#p484714

That's the post where I voted for Luna, pretty early in the day. You are just looking at my last comment before the vote.

I am Undisputed Master of the Townslip.

K-Ness wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:46 pmKyle was pretty vocal about wanting to know why people were voting for Luna. He was either erring on the side of caution or trying to find a way to help her wiggle out of it. Leaning neutral on him at the moment.

Long Con gave no indication of his feelings towards Luna, only voting for her because he felt sloonei wasn't bad. He had the opportunity to push on sloonei if he wanted to try to bolster Luna's defenses and didn't take it. Makes me lean town on him. Especially when you factor in his mistake of thinking Elohcin was the first night kill. It's just a slip I don't see a mafia member making in the game.

Marmot feels off to me for some reason. Can't quite explain why.

Nutella is leaving me feeling pretty confident of towniness.

I have no opinion on Simon, so he's squarely in the neutral category for me at the moment. Though the post about how his mother was nightkilled meaning he can't be mafia is bogus for several reasons, one of which was explained in the Long Con summary.

Bullzeye's remark about someone being absent Day 2 was odd considering there wasn't a Day 2. But the overall feel from his ISO leaves me leaning town on him.

I've been enjoying reading your posts. There's something delightful about them, and the avatar is fabulous! The posts give me a town feel for you.

K-Ness wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:53 pmConsidering the post was made after Luna was revealed, not at all. If you're cognizant enough to know you missed the day, you should at least be able to check who was lynched and the results there of. It sounds more like making a lame excuse for not being around and then trying to pepper it to make it seem more palatable.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:11 pm

K-Ness wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:53 pmConsidering the post was made after Luna was revealed, not at all. If you're cognizant enough to know you missed the day, you should at least be able to check who was lynched and the results there of. It sounds more like making a lame excuse for not being around and then trying to pepper it to make it seem more palatable.

I'm actually not sure what your conclusion is here? Are you saying that Sprit is suspicious for it, or not suspicious for it?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:42 pm

Night 3 has Ended.

Spoiler: show

nutella has been killed.

It is now Day 3. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:42 pm Also, I'm not sure I like the interaction between Jack and K-Ness. Jack started with an apathetic town read, which he now says have changed (after I asked). But I don't see any effort for Jack to put attention on K-Ness by his own initiative. Also K-Ness has constantly read Jack as scum or funny feelings for no reason, and made a point to say that he thought Jack could set him up. And it read a bit "so we're definitely not chummy this game", but then I don't see any real push from either of them on each other.

Thots.

Linki, Nutella. : (

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:51 pmFor background, Kness is a pal from my homesite. I’m generally regarded as the sneakiest something something on the board or pretty close to it so I kinda expect him to start off suspicious of me, esp if he’s town. I’ve been treating Kness with kid gloves somewhat cause I really want him to like it here and I also understand this site is way more intense than what he’s used to.

I don’t know why Kness currently thinks I’m town, though.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:58 pm k so ima work on a wall post to sum up everything id have like to have said the past two phases. basically just giving updated reads and stuff k

in the meantime, here's what's up

I wasn't silenced, I was "imprisoned" and couldn't post for a full day/night cycle. There's a little more to it but I don't think it'll help find scum and I can see it giving them an advantage if I share that information, so I'm keeping it to myself for now. Other targets might disagree, idk.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:32 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:58 pm k so ima work on a wall post to sum up everything id have like to have said the past two phases. basically just giving updated reads and stuff k

in the meantime, here's what's up

I wasn't silenced, I was "imprisoned" and couldn't post for a full day/night cycle. There's a little more to it but I don't think it'll help find scum and I can see it giving them an advantage if I share that information, so I'm keeping it to myself for now. Other targets might disagree, idk.

Rough. Can we kill that scum?

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:57 pm Quin - Called Luna out before anyone else. Would most certainly have lead her wagon on Day 2 had he been able to post. He's actually really good at mafia, guys. Basically he is confirmed town now.

Dyslexicon - God damn bulldozed their way into the thread from the get go. Dizzy was obviously keeping up as a spectator and I don't get the impression that momentum was ruined by a scum role card which would effectively mean throwing their reads in the garbage.
Alien - Had a good conversation with him on Day 1 about Sloonei's ISO's which left me thinking he wasn't just forcing that opinion to stick. His activity has completely dropped since then. Typically scum struggle to integrate themselves at the start of a game, but I don't believe the opposite is true. I don't think his sudden absence is AI, especially since he hasn't really gained much attention.
sprityo - I've never seen sprityo tunnel this hard before. I also think it makes him town.

Kylemii - He's been vocal enough that I felt I should place him.

Sloonei - "this is just my opinion but i think the case against sloonei seems like it's made out of weird garbage???" - Kylemii, 2018. I think he's a potential Luna teammate though. He responded to my case on her with stuff about her defending him because of an emotional connection, but that doesn't explain the lie she told me (which I think he would have realised) as well as the fact that I've never seen a syndicate couple do so (well, except ikawolf). He also proposed a sprityo CFD yesterday, which isn't great. Putting him the slightest shade of green to deter people from lynching him based on yesterday because basically your case sucks and mine rules.

Dom - Pepper-posting Dom is not abnormal. But I also couldn't remember anything he's said without checking his ISO and none of it makes me feel strongly one way or another. Withholding judgment.
Marmot - He's here but... Nothing to say.
DFaraday - Nothing to say.
DrWilgy - Nothing to say.
Simon - Nothing to say.
Soneji - Nothing to say.

Long Con - see Kylemii.
Turnip Head - He kept suggesting a nova wagon yesterday but there's nothing to suggest he really meant it. He called nova and Luna w/w but thought it best to lynch nova first despite all the Luna traction. Meh.

Jack - Only real beef is the vote switch at EoD1 which he's explained well enough. I haven't completely dropped it but I don't think it's worth pressing either. He was cryptic about his reasons for town reading me though which is a treat
K-Ness - He's having trouble integrating himself. Not super unexpected coming from another site but it's now Day 4 and I have absolutely no idea what he's up to besides pointing out a few pings.
nova - Hated his Day 1 vote and have yet to see anything from him I like.
Bullzeye - Found something disingenuous about his push on Sloonei for his post about why Mac was killed. His argument was that mafia are NKing town leaders, when Sloonei himself is a town leader. Mac could very well have been killed with it's implications for Sloonei being a town birds one stone deal and Bullzeye may be ignoring this.
speedchuck - Here because of Luna interactions. Strongly think Luna was defending him on Day 1 without any substance. He's either a teammate or a poor victim of Luna buddying. I haven't seen his interactions with her yet though.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:56 pm Friend sloonei, I want to believe in you, but im also having a hard time understanding how you go from defending yourself, to ISO walls, to text walls defending yourself again. The ISOs just cluttered my head trying to read through and I didnt necessarily see any congruent pattern/reason to them. But it looks like your hard work has paid off, your persistence on the truth has prevailed! It would appear though that the three voting you havent returned/wont return. I should see why theyre voting you, although i remember you saying yourself "nutella has provided why shes voting me" or something close to that. People are also talking about Eloh being suspicious but i cant recall anything shes said to be present really! Can someone just point to me exactly the post where Eloh is looking bad?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:56 am

Spoiler: show

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:19 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:05 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:42 pm I assumed Mac was just doing his usual antagonistic thing with me at first but now he seems to be sincerely riding the "everything Sloonei does is bad" train, I assume because it worked in Greece. But here it's all just fart butter and I wouldn't care about it one bit if it wasn't directed at me.

I'd prefer not to spend the rest of the phase defending myself though. Haters can hate. I'm a player, and players play.

There are several other people suspicious of you. You have been suspicious. Fart butter is a better description of your play than mine.

I refer only to your suspicion as fart butter. I’m not sure what its origins are or even what the main points are. You’ve just been highlighting posts of mine and saying “bad” because that worked in Ancient Greece. Nutella substantiated her read. LC did as well, even though I think part of that is a misunderstanding. Colin is bad. Jack’s a wildcard. You’re jusr dragging suspicion out of everything I say and it’s exhausting to try to address that at every point.

I stopped my analysis because i’m in school now and I have work to do and should also probably go to sleep at some point.

Nutella and LC substantiated their reads?

How much substantiation does a day 1 case require to not be fart butter?

Let's talk about Colin more because I agree with you.

Correction! mac has agreed with sloonei about colin and also has voiced a suspicion of eloh. although he just hasnt changed his vote either. how odd

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:46 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:42 pm k
i also don't like eloh this game rn

you'll be in agreement with others once youre caught up!

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:05 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:23 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:54 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:52 am So, what are we dealing with here? Closed setup, and we don't even know which roles are on the bad team.

So, what is the method of catching someone on Day 1? Ask questions and hope someone slips up?

Create a whirlwind of a thread by facilitating maximal activity. Ask questions, make comments, and hurl accusations at every opportunity. The thread needs to be a pressured and even stressful environment.

I ain’t got no time fo’ dat today so y’all get busy.

So in other words, "y'all get started and get the dirty work done and I will come back in here before the vote and make my assessment on which bandwagon I should jump on." Sounds bad to me. My first accusation is on YOU. Not only just this post. But, this post was given at12:54am. You then go on posting frequently until 3:08am. That is over 2 hours. And you have no time to ask questions, make comments, hurl accusations? There was no opportunity for that? Then you must have slept or something because you came back in the early pm posting exactly 9 hours later. At 1:48pm you talk about what you will do once you feel like actually playing the game. Again, you post frequently for 1 hour (1:48pm-2:42pm) not really saying anything. I do NOT like Jay in Mega-Man, I do not like him, Sam-I-Am.

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@Jack - I always post early on and often. I just don't often say much game related crap because I am too busy trying to keep up with the reading in the little bit of time I have to devote to mafia.

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out of 7 posts this must be the one! I will say it looks forced, yes. nothing about this seems to flow smoothly.

Too many words. That is how i would see it. It looks suspicious yes, but eloh has now dropped off the radar. Do you interpret that as intentional or not?