Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 8]
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:45 pm
I mean we have/had a town jailkeep, she could still be specifically a.... what's it called. a girlboss
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
you shouldnt beJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:43 pm Like I said @tutuu, if you're town then I'm genuinely sorry and completely understand your frustration. I just honestly think this is in town's best interests to ensure we're all communicating with each other.
ok, so mafia throws balls yeah? Meaning mafia knows how ball throwing works, yeah? so just telegraph that shit in wolf chat or something. Set it up so that no adverse effects happen, then, when ball flipper flips (if they do) you have a ready made defense of "why would mafia throw ball at mafia?"Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:32 pm tbh the most compelling piece of information that points to tutuu town is the baseball being thrown at her. Why would mafia throw baseballs at their team? I remember having an interaction with ted that shaded tutuu on this
i think Tutuu is mafia and at this point i do not feel like elaborating any more than i already have, i have writtten enough about her. deal with it!....
But that would be a waste of ability usagehollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:50 pmok, so mafia throws balls yeah? Meaning mafia knows how ball throwing works, yeah? so just telegraph that shit in wolf chat or something. Set it up so that no adverse effects happen, then, when ball flipper flips (if they do) you have a ready made defense of "why would mafia throw ball at mafia?"Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:32 pm tbh the most compelling piece of information that points to tutuu town is the baseball being thrown at her. Why would mafia throw baseballs at their team? I remember having an interaction with ted that shaded tutuu on this
If Tutuu is mafia I would say it's 100% not a waste because look at the conversation we're currently having and look at the times when people said Tutuu can't be a wolf b/c why would mafia throw at themselves, right?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:53 pmBut that would be a waste of ability usagehollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:50 pmok, so mafia throws balls yeah? Meaning mafia knows how ball throwing works, yeah? so just telegraph that shit in wolf chat or something. Set it up so that no adverse effects happen, then, when ball flipper flips (if they do) you have a ready made defense of "why would mafia throw ball at mafia?"Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:32 pm tbh the most compelling piece of information that points to tutuu town is the baseball being thrown at her. Why would mafia throw baseballs at their team? I remember having an interaction with ted that shaded tutuu on this
this is not what im doing. when questsions are being asked at me i tend to answer themhollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:53 pm "you're just wrong so I won't talk to you about your suspicions on me"
he asked if we could force you to prove your ability with a tie but i poked a hole in it and speculated that the hosts would just portray it like an ordinary rand, so no way to really know for sure
i decide ties with my ability if thats of any relevanceSyn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:58 pmhe asked if we could force you to prove your ability with a tie but i poked a hole in it and speculated that the hosts would just portray it like an ordinary rand, so no way to really know for sure
he also mentioned that made blocking out two names might mean he couldn't mention the players responsible for the curse, and that we should iso made's last day to see who was excluded
I did that and no one was excluded, so i think the blocked out names are flavor and not 1:1 with player names
are you allowed to holster? are ties decided by who you are voting for?tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:59 pmi decide ties with my ability if thats of any relevanceSyn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:58 pmhe asked if we could force you to prove your ability with a tie but i poked a hole in it and speculated that the hosts would just portray it like an ordinary rand, so no way to really know for sure
he also mentioned that made blocking out two names might mean he couldn't mention the players responsible for the curse, and that we should iso made's last day to see who was excluded
I did that and no one was excluded, so i think the blocked out names are flavor and not 1:1 with player names
We technically could do that tho, but then if it was a tie it would force tutuu to use her role. Though I don't know if the mods would show off tutuu's role like it was a randSyn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:58 pmhe asked if we could force you to prove your ability with a tie but i poked a hole in it and speculated that the hosts would just portray it like an ordinary rand, so no way to really know for sure
he also mentioned that made blocking out two names might mean he couldn't mention the players responsible for the curse, and that we should iso made's last day to see who was excluded
I did that and no one was excluded, so i think the blocked out names are flavor and not 1:1 with player names
part of the wolf read I have on you is and always has been your intransigence when asked to work with others. So yeah, I think you're mafia b/c you're unhelpful.tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:56 pmthis is not what im doing. when questsions are being asked at me i tend to answer themhollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:53 pm "you're just wrong so I won't talk to you about your suspicions on me"
if u are explaining to me why im mafia there is nothing to answer, i know that you're wrong and im gonig to tell what i know. im taking it very literal. if you want me to answer somethign or do something u will have to actually ask me the question that u want the answer to. "i think ur mafia because i think ur unhelpful" - u are not engaging in a conversation with me by approaching me like that
i make a list in which i order ppls names, i can put everyones name on it. i can change it at any time, multiple times, whenever i wantSyn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:00 pmare you allowed to holster? are ties decided by who you are voting for?tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:59 pmi decide ties with my ability if thats of any relevanceSyn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:58 pmhe asked if we could force you to prove your ability with a tie but i poked a hole in it and speculated that the hosts would just portray it like an ordinary rand, so no way to really know for sure
he also mentioned that made blocking out two names might mean he couldn't mention the players responsible for the curse, and that we should iso made's last day to see who was excluded
I did that and no one was excluded, so i think the blocked out names are flavor and not 1:1 with player names
I get what you're saying. If I were trying to spew a mate town or distance this is approximately how I'd be doing it.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:58 pm This interaction here made me think why tutuu wasn't aligned with ted. I specifically remember Ted shading tutuu for having a ball thrown at her and not getting it again.
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Do you know if mods make it absolutely clear that your role was used? It's kinda hard to prove your role exists because it can easily be portrayed as a randtutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:05 pmi make a list in which i order ppls names, i can put everyones name on it. i can change it at any time, multiple times, whenever i wantSyn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:00 pmare you allowed to holster? are ties decided by who you are voting for?tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:59 pmi decide ties with my ability if thats of any relevanceSyn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:58 pmhe asked if we could force you to prove your ability with a tie but i poked a hole in it and speculated that the hosts would just portray it like an ordinary rand, so no way to really know for sure
he also mentioned that made blocking out two names might mean he couldn't mention the players responsible for the curse, and that we should iso made's last day to see who was excluded
I did that and no one was excluded, so i think the blocked out names are flavor and not 1:1 with player names
after i die the list stays immortal and continues to affect the game and i cant change it anmore
i cant holster since from the very start i was responsible for this. my vote is irrelevant
the statement that ive been unhelpful this game is objectively false, i think you all would be lost if it werent for me keeping track of mech and constantly reminding everyone. i dropped the ball lately but it doesnt take away from how much my mech lists helped earlierhollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:03 pmpart of the wolf read I have on you is and always has been your intransigence when asked to work with others. So yeah, I think you're mafia b/c you're unhelpful.tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:56 pmthis is not what im doing. when questsions are being asked at me i tend to answer themhollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:53 pm "you're just wrong so I won't talk to you about your suspicions on me"
if u are explaining to me why im mafia there is nothing to answer, i know that you're wrong and im gonig to tell what i know. im taking it very literal. if you want me to answer somethign or do something u will have to actually ask me the question that u want the answer to. "i think ur mafia because i think ur unhelpful" - u are not engaging in a conversation with me by approaching me like that
I also think you're mafia b/c you've been coasting on the "green peek" and not doing anything with it.
I also think you're mafia b/c your conclusions don't make sense to me, meaning I don't think they come from town perspective.
Those are my main issues with you. I don't know how better to express them or engage with you on them when you're not willing to participate and when your reads are seemingly tunneled on two or so people you're clearly not re-evaluating or continually evaluating to make sure that you're right.
Like I don't even have to GTH you, I know your wolf reads are Michelle/Tim and I know they've been Michelle/Tim for literally days now. BUT YOU DON'T PUSH THEM. THAT is the key here. You shade, and you talk about how they're obvs wolves but you don't case and you don't push.
All you're really doing is reminding the thread periodically that you wolf read those two players in hopes that it eventually gains traction. That's like "how to wolf 101"
but hes townreading me off of ithollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:06 pmI get what you're saying. If I were trying to spew a mate town or distance this is approximately how I'd be doing it.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:58 pm This interaction here made me think why tutuu wasn't aligned with ted. I specifically remember Ted shading tutuu for having a ball thrown at her and not getting it again.
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i dont think they make it clear - why would they? doesnt make sense to me from a design povJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:06 pmDo you know if mods make it absolutely clear that your role was used? It's kinda hard to prove your role exists because it can easily be portrayed as a randtutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:05 pmi make a list in which i order ppls names, i can put everyones name on it. i can change it at any time, multiple times, whenever i wantSyn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:00 pmare you allowed to holster? are ties decided by who you are voting for?tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:59 pmi decide ties with my ability if thats of any relevanceSyn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:58 pmhe asked if we could force you to prove your ability with a tie but i poked a hole in it and speculated that the hosts would just portray it like an ordinary rand, so no way to really know for sure
he also mentioned that made blocking out two names might mean he couldn't mention the players responsible for the curse, and that we should iso made's last day to see who was excluded
I did that and no one was excluded, so i think the blocked out names are flavor and not 1:1 with player names
after i die the list stays immortal and continues to affect the game and i cant change it anmore
i cant holster since from the very start i was responsible for this. my vote is irrelevant
I town read HK off sloonei and marmot iso. Read Sloonei's iso, it was just hilarious reading how often sloonei wanted to lynch hollowkatt.tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:14 pm @Justplayingitcool what were the mech reasosn to townread hk again? is it because long con tracked him and he visited noone?
hk claimed a role that passively, like. disrupts other who try to mess with him. so if he is mafia and h claimed his real role, long con tracking him to no one is not a valid reason to townread him no?
was there anything else im missing?
It actually wouldn't be. Assuming you're both town, by yeeting one of you, we're stealing an obvious nightkill from mafia, which means that at some point down the line, they'd have to kill someone that's less obviously town down the line. A Tim nightkill or an HK nightkill would give us more to talk about then, say, a JPIC nightkill or a Dizzy nightkill if you two are as lock town as you say you are. :PJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:43 amThis would be the stupidest thing to happen so far
I'll do so after I'm done catching up.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:53 amPoint me to these posts.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:01 pmJPIC is a complete toss up for me. Like, there has been a lot of stuff that I wanted to lock him town for, but every once in a while, he'll say something that'll make me do a double take and think "am I wrong here?". I've pointed out a couple of these things in previous posts. I feel like I had a strong reason to call Michelle town earlier, but I dunno if she's done anything since then that makes me want to continue calling her town. I dunno.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:57 pmHow do I make a Venn diagram from that info? o:Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:50 pmVenn diagram now with the general thread suspicions.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:47 pm Either way, I think I've found the four of the five people that -I- need to have auto? Those people are Tim, HK, LC, and Tutuu. I think Kyle would make an okay 5th, and if not, Syn would probably okay. Don't care about anyone else -- you can yeet them in any order now for all I care.
Either way, I don't want to try reading Made anymore. I still have a mild suspicion of Dizzy, even if there has been more stuff I liked from them the past two day phases. I just can't shake away those bad gut feelings. One thing in particular that still weirded me out is the "cold feet" that the started getting on 112 right before 112 claimed 3P. It felt like Dizzy wanted 112 yeeted, thinking 112 was town, but didn't want to look bad for voting them later. Then, the "cold feet" seemed to disappear immediately once 112 claimed 3P.
You're close, but not close enough.tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:14 pm @Justplayingitcool what were the mech reasosn to townread hk again? is it because long con tracked him and he visited noone?
hk claimed a role that passively, like. disrupts other who try to mess with him. so if he is mafia and h claimed his real role, long con tracking him to no one is not a valid reason to townread him no?
was there anything else im missing?
Mechanically it's possible, I think? I don't think anyone has a cop clear on LC so if that's what you're driving at sure, you can have that one.
Then why don't you ignore my powers and call me scum? Was your reason for townreading me for my powers stronger than your reasons why I could be scum ignoring my powers? Like, I'm getting the sense that you don't want to confront me when you say you townread me for one thing that's actually pretty NAI for me and then say I'm not towny for things that I've done outside of mechanics. Are you afraid to call me scum? :3Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:56 amI only townread you for your powersHyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:39 pmIgnoring my powers, do you townread me? Or do you townread me just because of my powers and how I've been using them?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:30 pm I really just cannot see who it can be other than it being made.
Hyena maybe. But the powers have been used for good but just not confident there
Michelle maybe, but she was pretty pro-yeet Ted and the tutuu tunnel feels like it comes more from town than scum
Everybody else has very solid reasons to be townread
Your push on me made me wary of you and I can’t say i’m liking what im seeing from you this phase
Made wasn't actually in my town core. I wanted to shake the game up and get some reaction tests. I was getting bored by all the mechanics discussion.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:51 amCaught up until that post, why is Made in your town core?Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:33 pm@Michelle You might be replacing Syn in the towncore. The new people in charge are still discussing it.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:32 pmOkay, cool.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:26 pmI'll pick SynHyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:23 pmMADE! NO! WE'RE A TOWN CORE! PICK SOMEONE -NOT- IN THOSE FOUR!!!Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:13 pmI’d say it’s always Long Con as town. Tim is probably scum, HK could be scum, Long Con is almost always townHyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:49 pm
There's 11 players remaining. If the five of us are town, then we only need to find ONE more person that's town, excluding @Alison (though Alison, if you want to help out with this, you're free to join, too). Who should be the last person we include in our towncore?
@Timsup2nothin
@Made
@Long Con
@hollowkatt
@Syn You're now in the new towncore with me, Tim, Made, HK, and LC. There's six of us, and five of them -- we just chop them one by one now and we win, assuming the six of us are all town! How do you feel about that?
or we could just yeet who we think is scumHyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:04 pmIt actually wouldn't be. Assuming you're both town, by yeeting one of you, we're stealing an obvious nightkill from mafia, which means that at some point down the line, they'd have to kill someone that's less obviously town down the line. A Tim nightkill or an HK nightkill would give us more to talk about then, say, a JPIC nightkill or a Dizzy nightkill if you two are as lock town as you say you are. :PJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:43 amThis would be the stupidest thing to happen so far