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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:18 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Meh i think you're shielding one too, so
Guess we'll find out
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:19 pm
by alexa
@Lime Coke just found the game where you/Alison were W/W
how do you feel she compares to here/what's your read on her?
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:19 pm
by Wiml
Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:22 pm
by alexa
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 273&t=2167 also who else was scum here..? i'm having trouble figuring it out based on thread summary
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:22 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:19 pm
Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?
Remind me who you're clearing
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:23 pm
by Wiml
Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:49 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:47 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:35 pm
lol ill take your word for it
talk me through your reads on everyone else atm
I think Alexa is townie. EnderWiggin is null which might actually be concerning because he usually makes a big splash when he is town. I have been on board with Esooa and Nanook's reads of Mac and I don't think he's a target they would try to either misexe or bus if they were scum which means they are most likely town. LC as explained is self resolving. I think Transcend is slightly scummy because I don't understand any of his reads, but he seems committed to towncoring me which means he will dig himself into a whole if he is scum attempting a pocket.
ok this kinda sucks
but may still be town
This feels like an anchored read tbh.
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:23 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Me, Alison, lime, osie/martin, ender
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:23 pm
by Lime Coke
READLIIIIIIST:
Town:
Alexa
Esooa
Ender
Alison
Illario
Wiml
Mac
Nanook
TSP
Transcend
Maf:
The bottom 3 are more POE.
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:24 pm
by alexa
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:23 pm
READLIIIIIIST:
Town:
Alexa
Esooa
Ender
Alison
Illario
Wiml
Mac
Nanook
TSP
Transcend
Maf:
The bottom 3 are more POE.
wait what changed on TSP/Nanook?
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:24 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:22 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:19 pm
Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?
Remind me who you're clearing
Also "let's pretend the person im most likely misclearing is town then who am I misclearing" is kind of a silly question lol
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:25 pm
by alexa
oh nvm you had ender/nanook town not tsp
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:26 pm
by Wiml
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:22 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:19 pm
Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?
Remind me who you're clearing
For the sake of discussion let's just say that I'm lock clearing everyone who isn't in my active PoE.
So alexa, Esooa, LC, Alison, TSP.
Where are the wolves in that list?
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:27 pm
by Wiml
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:22 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:19 pm
Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?
Remind me who you're clearing
Also "let's pretend the person im most likely misclearing is town then who am I misclearing" is kind of a silly question lol
I'm confident I'm not misclearing him and want an answer I can actually discuss my read on lol.
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:28 pm
by Lime Coke
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:19 pm
@Lime Coke just found the game where you/Alison were W/W
how do you feel she compares to here/what's your read on her?
I don't think she tunneled someone instantly in that game Day 1? Like she had that fire on Illario to start this game. Last game she like, spread her reads apart, including a scumread on me, and was showing a more broader look to the game.
Truth be told, and I said this in the dead chat, I mixed myself up and I thought Michelle was my partner and Alison was town. So when Alison started going after me, and another mafia member, I was scared shitless and said to the maf chat that we needed to N1 Alison and turns out she was in the chat with us. So we N1'd Michelle instead.
But yeah here I have her as town but for that day start stuff with Illario. Plus I feel like her surrendering the Illario read to you is towny of her because I feel like if she was maf she'd continue pushing.
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:29 pm
by alexa
ilario literally got up and posted in the thread at 6AM his time just to drag nanook for fosing him he's always a villager
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:30 pm
by Wiml
There's a small chance I'm wrong on ilario, I've been burned by meta before and I wouldn't like blindly sheep me if I die today and he's alive in F3, but I really think he's just town here.
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:30 pm
by Lime Coke
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:25 pm
oh nvm you had ender/nanook town not tsp
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:24 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:23 pm
READLIIIIIIST:
Town:
Alexa
Esooa
Ender
Alison
Illario
Wiml
Mac
Nanook
TSP
Transcend
Maf:
The bottom 3 are more POE.
wait what changed on TSP/Nanook?
Like I said I noticed the Nanook defense of you early but I can't remember reading him otherwise. Others that are above him I've been reading and been thinking "Okay, they feel pretty towny to me currently."
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:30 pm
by alexa
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:28 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:19 pm
@Lime Coke just found the game where you/Alison were W/W
how do you feel she compares to here/what's your read on her?
I don't think she tunneled someone instantly in that game Day 1? Like she had that fire on Illario to start this game. Last game she like, spread her reads apart, including a scumread on me, and was showing a more broader look to the game.
Truth be told, and I said this in the dead chat, I mixed myself up and I thought Michelle was my partner and Alison was town. So when Alison started going after me, and another mafia member, I was scared shitless and said to the maf chat that we needed to N1 Alison and turns out she was in the chat with us. So we N1'd Michelle instead.
But yeah here I have her as town but for that day start stuff with Illario. Plus I feel like her surrendering the Illario read to you is towny of her because I feel like if she was maf she'd continue pushing.
i think alison pushing on someone instantly is NAI for her. i've seen her do it as both alignments
i agree her surrendering the ilario read to me was towny though
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:31 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:22 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:19 pm
Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?
Remind me who you're clearing
For the sake of discussion let's just say that I'm lock clearing everyone who isn't in my active PoE.
So alexa, Esooa, LC, Alison, TSP.
Where are the wolves in that list?
Alison or lime
Maybe tsp, dependent on ilario's flip
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:31 pm
by alexa
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:30 pm
There's a small chance I'm wrong on ilario, I've been burned by meta before and I wouldn't like blindly sheep me if I die today and he's alive in F3, but I really think he's just town here.
if he's town he will just keep making himself more and more obvious town so shrugz
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:32 pm
by alexa
NANOOK didn't you say you felt lime was villaging after wolfing with him?
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:33 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:32 pm
NANOOK didn't you say you felt lime was villaging after wolfing with him?
I don't think so, maybe that was ender or Alison
I don't have a lime read atp
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:33 pm
by alexa
also your comment on TSP just makes me tinfoil TSP more because ilario is my most confident TR
why do you feel like TSP's flip is dependent on ilario's? is your only reason for TRing TSP that he's not w/w with ilario?
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:33 pm
by Lime Coke
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:32 pm
NANOOK didn't you say you felt lime was villaging after wolfing with him?
Exactlyyyyyy
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:34 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:33 pm
Is your only reason for TRing TSP that he's not w/w with ilario?
Pretty much yeah
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:34 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:33 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:32 pm
NANOOK didn't you say you felt lime was villaging after wolfing with him?
Exactlyyyyyy
I have zero memory of saying this
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:35 pm
by Lime Coke
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:34 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:33 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:32 pm
NANOOK didn't you say you felt lime was villaging after wolfing with him?
Exactlyyyyyy
I have zero memory of saying this
I swear you did.
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:36 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:35 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:34 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:33 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:32 pm
NANOOK didn't you say you felt lime was villaging after wolfing with him?
Exactlyyyyyy
I have zero memory of saying this
I swear you did.
It doesn't sound like me and I don't remember it
Its not impossible ig but if I did it was bad and idk what I was thinking lol
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:36 pm
by alexa
it may have been ender who said it
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pm
by alexa
also this was your first read in the game, which you've never wavered on
then for part of your reasoning you put "volume cleared" and refused to site a post
i'm kind of mrrrring at that hard
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
A quick search for lime in my iso and I don't see it, so
I'm reasonably sure I didn't say that lol, maybe it was ender or Alison
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pm
by Wiml
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:31 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:22 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:19 pm
Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?
Remind me who you're clearing
For the sake of discussion let's just say that I'm lock clearing everyone who isn't in my active PoE.
So alexa, Esooa, LC, Alison, TSP.
Where are the wolves in that list?
Alison or lime
Maybe tsp, dependent on ilario's flip
Tbf I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if there was a wolf in those three names, particularly because I no longer have a reason to TR Alison as strongly and her attempt at a push on me felt like a stretch.
TSP if illario is town? Do you have any familiarity with him and his meta?
Also seriously please explain why you think blade is town here lol. I'm usually not bad at reading him but I'm not seeing it here tbh.
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:38 pm
by Lime Coke
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:36 pm
it may have been ender who said it
Ohhh you might be right.
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:38 pm
by alexa
Wiml just feels like solid town to me
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:39 pm
by Wiml
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:31 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:30 pm
There's a small chance I'm wrong on ilario, I've been burned by meta before and I wouldn't like blindly sheep me if I die today and he's alive in F3, but I really think he's just town here.
if he's town he will just keep making himself more and more obvious town so shrugz
True but I also don't want to be blamed if he wins in F3 because of some D1 read I made on him lol.
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:39 pm
by Lime Coke
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pm
A quick search for lime in my iso and I don't see it, so
I'm reasonably sure I didn't say that lol, maybe it was ender or Alison
It was Ender that was my bad.
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:39 pm
by Lime Coke
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:38 pm
Wiml just feels like solid town to me
Same.
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:40 pm
by alexa
VVV: ilario, Wiml
VV: Lime Coke, Esooa
V: Alison
POE -
[Mac, Transcend, NANOOK, Ender, TSP]
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:40 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pm
also this was your first read in the game, which you've never wavered on
then for part of your reasoning you put "volume cleared" and refused to site a post
i'm kind of mrrrring at that hard
Yeah he opened strong, I thought it was a townie opening
I've since reevaluated the read and came to the same conclusion, that he's town, I just presented what I believed to be the more compelling reason for other people--obviously not everyone saw/sees his opening as being as townie as i do or he wouldn't have votes, so I presented another part of my read instead
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:40 pm
by Esooa
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:28 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:19 pm
@Lime Coke just found the game where you/Alison were W/W
how do you feel she compares to here/what's your read on her?
Truth be told, and I said this in the dead chat, I mixed myself up and I thought Michelle was my partner and Alison was town. So when Alison started going after me, and another mafia member, I was scared shitless and said to the maf chat that we needed to N1 Alison and turns out she was in the chat with us. So we N1'd Michelle instead.
omg lol
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:42 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:31 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:22 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:19 pm
Let's pretend illario is an IC. Who am I misclearing here?
Remind me who you're clearing
For the sake of discussion let's just say that I'm lock clearing everyone who isn't in my active PoE.
So alexa, Esooa, LC, Alison, TSP.
Where are the wolves in that list?
Alison or lime
Maybe tsp, dependent on ilario's flip
Tbf I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if there was a wolf in those three names, particularly because I no longer have a reason to TR Alison as strongly and her attempt at a push on me felt like a stretch.
TSP if illario is town? Do you have any familiarity with him and his meta?
Also seriously please explain why you think blade is town here lol. I'm usually not bad at reading him but I'm not seeing it here tbh.
With tsp? Yes, lots. It rarely helps.
I'm good at reading blade idk what to tell you. He has townie drive, is that something that'll convince you?
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:43 pm
by Wiml
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:40 pm
VVV: ilario, Wiml
VV: Lime Coke, Esooa
V: Alison
POE -
[Mac, Transcend, NANOOK, Ender, TSP]
Honestly I pretty much agree with all of this.
My main difference is TSP in single V mostly for the self meta stuff.
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:45 pm
by Lime Coke
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:40 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:28 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:19 pm
@Lime Coke just found the game where you/Alison were W/W
how do you feel she compares to here/what's your read on her?
Truth be told, and I said this in the dead chat, I mixed myself up and I thought Michelle was my partner and Alison was town. So when Alison started going after me, and another mafia member, I was scared shitless and said to the maf chat that we needed to N1 Alison and turns out she was in the chat with us. So we N1'd Michelle instead.
omg lol
I need to rand wolf with you eventually so I can see how to properly powerwolf and not be scared in the first 24 hours of the game.
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:45 pm
by alexa
Nanook, I had the instant urge to counter what you said because I don't remember you explaining your read on Matt besides volume cleared and because of my ADHD, but I forced myself to spot-check your ISO and I still don't see anything besides this -
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:11 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:09 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:08 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:06 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:06 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:05 pm
-refuses to explain read on Transcend
-wolfreads ilario
content bad nanook
I don't really do cases
you don't need to case someone to explain a read
What is there to explain, he has a huge number of posts and enough of them are townie that he's probably just town
Its not a complicated read and tbh idk how it isn't the prevailing thought
having a huge number of posts is completely NAI for him
and which one's of them are incredibly towny?
Idk that any of them are incredibly towny on their own, but there's a bunch that are somewhere between townie and kinda townie, and collectively that's enough for me to call him town
Considering Matt doesn't have volume tells (self-admitted and confirmed by multiple people who know him) I don't see any other reasoning? I don't get why you're just outright ignoring that
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:46 pm
by MacDougall
I am doing such a gross poo
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:47 pm
by Esooa
I think Transcend is more likely town than not atm
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:48 pm
by alexa
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:47 pm
I think Transcend is more likely town than not atm
why
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:48 pm
by Alison
This is a lot of posts to catch up on.
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:48 pm
by Alison
I will do so at my leisure.
Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:48 pm
by Lime Coke
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:47 pm
I think Transcend is more likely town than not atm
Are you sure about that?