The Syndicate

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:47 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:28 am

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:20 am wigly's life hangs in the balance, cause wwa and schweppes don't vote me

If it's really that important that I go over, that's fine, but I really do think there's better options as it stands. Dying before those options feels bad-ish?

it's important that i don't go over, you've been posting well enough to survive but if i though the votes would ever split between me and you i'd strong arm ur chop without caring about ur flip

Why?

@robyn what have your targets been during the nights

Didn't completely catch up, sort of skimmed cause I was in a rush to vote I'll catch up during the night

Quick thoughts are that I really need to reevaluate lily, Nook is starting to lose the towniness I thought he had before because he feels like he's just giving reads for the sake of giving reads, and I'm not really feeling like svs is town anymore, as evidenced by my vote.

I think Wilgy has been doing at least a little that sounds towny but idk his wolfrange, I just think some of his observations a re good.

[VOTE: Vote SVS] aubergine

this feels very shruggy, but I will have more time tomorrow.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:47 am

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:45 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:40 am

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:40 am

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:39 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:37 am

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:36 am

nobody would ever play another rondo game lol

I think it's cool. And what does it matter if it's mafia and independent if we have to kill them both anyway??

makes my pr read and lack of tmi read on you correct, as well as gives you my logic for nk’s being anti multiball (makes this logic valid)

3p vs multiball is extremely different

... go on

???? if a multiball then tmi reads are valid, i've cleverly played a multiball and got n1ed after having a 4/6 solve. the teams know that there are mafia faking solving and are genuinely trying to solve the other team and uses their nk to strike down 1) high influence players 2) potential mafia. last on the list is conf towns especially in a flipless

the entire gamestate is different

I'll find out at endgame. Mafia choosing kills is based on a hell of a lot more than those two factors.

The kills so far do not indicate that mafia is trying to kill other mafia
They're just killing players that are widely townread as far as I can tell

Oh yeah, and what I was gonna say earlier was that multiball usually involves multiple teams wanting each other dead, but 1 scumteam + 3p team does not necessarily have the same dynamic. If the 3p team is survivors or something fairly benign, they're not out for blood. And if the 3p team is a serial killer team, they're more out for blood than anyone else lol.

Lmao I'm so sorry svs, but at least marmot got slank killed

Her all-day push on marmot makes so much more sense with that context

This is by far the most info we've gotten all game
I'll go back and read more carefully through the leadup to EoD and see what I can get from it

My legacy will probably get wiped whenever I die tbh so I'll just make all my reads publicly known

"Limited Parity Checker": The way S~V~S is claiming the role works is extremely strong?

I would certainly not expect Hat and Boot to mean the same thing across nights.

Sigh. I appreciate the info but no, I'm not exactly happy.

In my read-up I thought SVS was townie, but I wanted a definite wagon.
On another hand, maybe I shouldve voted Wilgy to see what scum do.


oh well.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:05 am

There was something to be found in S~V~S' shoe


Legacy Day 3: Legacy Day Three SVS: I’m town, I’m a limited parity checker. I never had this kind of role before and I was looking forward to using it, but figured the jokes on me! Parity checking in a closed set up with no flips won’t tell me much, plus I only choose one target, the second person is random. I have three shots, Night One I chose Long Con, and Random. org chose Marmot ... and they came back two different alignments! LC as Hat, Marmot as Boot. I didn't know which was which though. Night Two though, I got lucky. I checked Windward cause I was pretty sure she was town, and she came back Hat! Same as LC. Random. org picked ME!! And I came back Hat too. So WWA and LC are town, since I am, too. Marmot is NOT town. He's a boot, a bad boot. So let's see who pushes back the hardest to save the boot!

A thorough search of Marmot's body turns up no sign of any legacy.

so Marmot likely scum
Thats good info.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:05 am

Day 3 Votes


S~V~S - (6) Voters: 1 + EnderWiggin, DrWilgy, WindwardAway, Boquise, Bereft
DrWilgy - (4) Voters: 2 + NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, robyn
robyn - (2) Voters: Long Con, ☆Princess Abigail☆
Marmot - (1) Voters: S~V~S

Invalid - (0) Voters: Marmot

As they say, PRs sometimes come across wolfy when they have TMI
I would say that the wagon on svs had to contain a wolf who knew that svs was pushing on their teammate, but considering marmot was on his way to getting slank killed, Im not so sure.

Because if we had gone with svs's suggestion and yeeted marmot, we would have a dead marmot and a living svs, and no legacy from svs to go with it. She could very well have been killed at night and her legacy wiped, or we could've gone another day before mislunching her.

Basically, a marmot lunch wouldve been the equivalent of a no-lunch because he would've been slank killed regardless, so I don't think his wolf team would be as keen on pushing a counterwagon as they ordinarily might.

Not like anyone was going with the suggestion to kill marmot, anyway...

I also see 3 ghost votes and only 1 nonvoter (marmot), so I guess I still don't understand the mechanic. Oh well.

If Long Con is town from svs's cop check, then I believe both voters on Robyn are town. This doesn't really tell me anything about Robyn, other than that wolves must've preferred a different wagon.

I don't really know what to think of the Wilgy wagon. I don't really get the sense that Nanook has been solving so much as just slapping reads on people and moving on, but maybe I just don't understand his play because he hasn't given much explanation other than being good at reading a handful of players, and I don't have the experience to know what his reasoning could be. Idk.

Since I'm a bit lacking in scumreads right now, I'm considering going through the players on the svs wagon anyway, one by one, and figuring out which of them is most likely to be a wolf who suspects svs of having dirt on marmot.

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:24 am "Limited Parity Checker": The way S~V~S is claiming the role works is extremely strong?

I would certainly not expect Hat and Boot to mean the same thing across nights.

Sigh. I appreciate the info but no, I'm not exactly happy.

I think it must've been "limited" in that she only picks one of her targets and the other is randomized. Not limited in function.

And also yeah, I had the same thought as you about the hat/boot thing, but if it just works like a normal parity cop with a random check, then she probably did interpret her results correctly

Actually, svs was the one who said there was one scum between Long Con and marmot but didn't give an explanation for it

Maybe scum already figured out she might be a parity cop earlier

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:37 am Actually, svs was the one who said there was one scum between Long Con and marmot but didn't give an explanation for it

Maybe scum already figured out she might be a parity cop earlier

This is probably a better place to search for wolves than today

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:42 am @Robyn have you made any claims that I need to know to be up to speed?

i’m gay nya

(read rules, claims are a modkill)

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:10 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:08 am Not a fan of an svs wagon atm

why not, beautiful, still suspect the wigsters?

Yeah, and don't really want to kill someone I have no real opinion or read on

Too late now but

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:05 am

There was something to be found in S~V~S' shoe


Legacy Day 3: Legacy Day Three SVS: I’m town, I’m a limited parity checker. I never had this kind of role before and I was looking forward to using it, but figured the jokes on me! Parity checking in a closed set up with no flips won’t tell me much, plus I only choose one target, the second person is random. I have three shots, Night One I chose Long Con, and Random. org chose Marmot ... and they came back two different alignments! LC as Hat, Marmot as Boot. I didn't know which was which though. Night Two though, I got lucky. I checked Windward cause I was pretty sure she was town, and she came back Hat! Same as LC. Random. org picked ME!! And I came back Hat too. So WWA and LC are town, since I am, too. Marmot is NOT town. He's a boot, a bad boot. So let's see who pushes back the hardest to save the boot!

A thorough search of Marmot's body turns up no sign of any legacy.

my reads>parity cop

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:24 am "Limited Parity Checker": The way S~V~S is claiming the role works is extremely strong?

I would certainly not expect Hat and Boot to mean the same thing across nights.

Sigh. I appreciate the info but no, I'm not exactly happy.

It sounds like it does from how she wrote it

If we assume she's town obviously

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:24 am "Limited Parity Checker": The way S~V~S is claiming the role works is extremely strong?

I would certainly not expect Hat and Boot to mean the same thing across nights.

Sigh. I appreciate the info but no, I'm not exactly happy.

cheer up, i am very happy, i always trade 1 town for 1 mafia and 2 clears very single time

not to say that it was planned or that i didn't brutally kill a town or anything, but the way it turned out was great

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:34 am If Long Con is town from svs's cop check, then I believe both voters on Robyn are town. This doesn't really tell me anything about Robyn, other than that wolves must've preferred a different wagon.

on the contrary, it proves that my reads have been laser beams, or as some might say "godly"

long con is just irked that he's obv town due to lack of tmi and i've reading him like a book and idk what abbie is doing tbh

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:07 am

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:42 am @Robyn have you made any claims that I need to know to be up to speed?

i’m gay nya

(read rules, claims are a modkill)

yes
i was confused when i read your posts in a rush tbh

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:23 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:24 am "Limited Parity Checker": The way S~V~S is claiming the role works is extremely strong?

I would certainly not expect Hat and Boot to mean the same thing across nights.

Sigh. I appreciate the info but no, I'm not exactly happy.

cheer up, i am very happy, i always trade 1 town for 1 mafia and 2 clears very single time

not to say that it was planned or that i didn't brutally kill a town or anything, but the way it turned out was great

Why are you so sure she was actually town?

I'm not arguing against it I'm more looking to assuage my own doubt lol

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:38 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:30 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:25 pmdon’t vote for me, the strict logic here is, if you do vote me and the vote is between me and someone else i never die and you ensure my vote (not yours) is the one that goes over. i think you’re town and i think that you can catch wolves. i’m just not and tbh i don’t expect u to see otherwise

"if you do vote me and the vote is between me and someone else i never die and you ensure my vote (not yours) is the one that goes over." I don't understand this.

if you vote for me you waste your vote because i never go over, that’s the rub, you ensure whoever i want to vote out goes out. like i’m not against working with you about anyone except my top town row on my post recent readslist

the issue is just that votes lock and your entire cycle might be made irrelevant by suspecting me. i don’t care how you view me here but the logic is that you’d waste all your effort on me and i think you’re town so i’d just ignore you

and voila d3 where you haven’t put effort into finding me and all my play ignoring lily is ignored by you and etc etc

it’s a shitshow and i’m warning you

@Long Con

it'll happen again, you can't say that i didn't warn you about exactly how this cycle would turn out

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:30 am

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:23 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:24 am "Limited Parity Checker": The way S~V~S is claiming the role works is extremely strong?

I would certainly not expect Hat and Boot to mean the same thing across nights.

Sigh. I appreciate the info but no, I'm not exactly happy.

cheer up, i am very happy, i always trade 1 town for 1 mafia and 2 clears very single time

not to say that it was planned or that i didn't brutally kill a town or anything, but the way it turned out was great

Why are you so sure she was actually town?

I'm not arguing against it I'm more looking to assuage my own doubt lol

cause it fits her play and it fits my worldview, i had wwa and long con as town, mech tells us that, i change nothing except increase in confidence

and as town with mech on marmot and unable to do anything else with limited time i reckon that simply pushing marmot is optimal and like the legacy is a bit convoluted to be faked + day legacies usually never get altered

just everything makes sense

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:39 am if we have yeeted 2 wolves, Robyn is cleared.

why?

also on your second readslist i wasn't any shade of town, but in your circle readslist i was top town

what changed it for you boq man?

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:29 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:34 am If Long Con is town from svs's cop check, then I believe both voters on Robyn are town. This doesn't really tell me anything about Robyn, other than that wolves must've preferred a different wagon.

on the contrary, it proves that my reads have been laser beams, or as some might say "godly"

long con is just irked that he's obv town due to lack of tmi and i've reading him like a book and idk what abbie is doing tbh

Yeah, I agree with you on Long Con anyway, I had a similar read once he kicked into action.

And I still think youre town, but I also think I have too many townreads so I need to start reevaluating. That's why I'm picking the svs wagon to start with, and see if I find any suspicious activity around when she posted her readlist that included "one wolf between Long Con/marmot".

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:36 am

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:39 am if we have yeeted 2 wolves, Robyn is cleared.

why?

also on your second readslist i wasn't any shade of town, but in your circle readslist i was top town

what changed it for you boq man?

I think I know the answer to this and I kinda agree with it

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:40 am

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:29 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:34 am If Long Con is town from svs's cop check, then I believe both voters on Robyn are town. This doesn't really tell me anything about Robyn, other than that wolves must've preferred a different wagon.

on the contrary, it proves that my reads have been laser beams, or as some might say "godly"

long con is just irked that he's obv town due to lack of tmi and i've reading him like a book and idk what abbie is doing tbh

Yeah, I agree with you on Long Con anyway, I had a similar read once he kicked into action.

And I still think youre town, but I also think I have too many townreads so I need to start reevaluating. That's why I'm picking the svs wagon to start with, and see if I find any suspicious activity around when she posted her readlist that included "one wolf between Long Con/marmot".

if i had my way with things (and i usually do) i'd massacre boq into abbie inside the current list and pay very close attention to ender's solving

look at those 2 names first

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:42 am

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:36 am

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:39 am if we have yeeted 2 wolves, Robyn is cleared.

why?

also on your second readslist i wasn't any shade of town, but in your circle readslist i was top town

what changed it for you boq man?

I think I know the answer to this and I kinda agree with it

which part? the me no longer being town at all

or the me being cleared for the death rate of wolves

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:44 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:42 am

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:36 am

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:39 am if we have yeeted 2 wolves, Robyn is cleared.

why?

also on your second readslist i wasn't any shade of town, but in your circle readslist i was top town

what changed it for you boq man?

I think I know the answer to this and I kinda agree with it

which part? the me no longer being town at all

or the me being cleared for the death rate of wolves

and why?

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:44 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:42 am

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:36 am

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:39 am if we have yeeted 2 wolves, Robyn is cleared.

why?

also on your second readslist i wasn't any shade of town, but in your circle readslist i was top town

what changed it for you boq man?

I think I know the answer to this and I kinda agree with it

which part? the me no longer being town at all

or the me being cleared for the death rate of wolves

You being cleared for the death rate of wolves

Idr what boq's circle reads looked like except that there were like two avatars that appeared to be right on the border between green and red, and I was confused and gave up trying to parse it

I wasn't sure if you wanted boq to answer before I do, but the wolf death rate I think is pretty simple. If you're not trying to save them from going over, or you're even voting them consistently, you're not a wolf. There's no need to bus in a flipless game.

there's also the fact that every chop has been my call

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:47 am there's also the fact that every chop has been my call

Yeah, which would mean that maybe except for the lily shot, you would've bussed your partners when it seems like it's unnecessary, and you'd probably know that.

Idk about marmot, that's anyone's guess since apparently none of his partners could convince him to play the game, meaning he was just cannon fodder that nobody thought was worth discussing except for svs who had a red on him.

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:31 am

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:38 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:30 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:25 pmdon’t vote for me, the strict logic here is, if you do vote me and the vote is between me and someone else i never die and you ensure my vote (not yours) is the one that goes over. i think you’re town and i think that you can catch wolves. i’m just not and tbh i don’t expect u to see otherwise

"if you do vote me and the vote is between me and someone else i never die and you ensure my vote (not yours) is the one that goes over." I don't understand this.

if you vote for me you waste your vote because i never go over, that’s the rub, you ensure whoever i want to vote out goes out. like i’m not against working with you about anyone except my top town row on my post recent readslist

the issue is just that votes lock and your entire cycle might be made irrelevant by suspecting me. i don’t care how you view me here but the logic is that you’d waste all your effort on me and i think you’re town so i’d just ignore you

and voila d3 where you haven’t put effort into finding me and all my play ignoring lily is ignored by you and etc etc

it’s a shitshow and i’m warning you

@Long Con

it'll happen again, you can't say that i didn't warn you about exactly how this cycle would turn out

With you leading the game to wagon a valuable Town member? You are truly unbelievable. At least you make me laugh.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:50 am

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:31 am

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:38 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:30 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:25 pmdon’t vote for me, the strict logic here is, if you do vote me and the vote is between me and someone else i never die and you ensure my vote (not yours) is the one that goes over. i think you’re town and i think that you can catch wolves. i’m just not and tbh i don’t expect u to see otherwise

"if you do vote me and the vote is between me and someone else i never die and you ensure my vote (not yours) is the one that goes over." I don't understand this.

if you vote for me you waste your vote because i never go over, that’s the rub, you ensure whoever i want to vote out goes out. like i’m not against working with you about anyone except my top town row on my post recent readslist

the issue is just that votes lock and your entire cycle might be made irrelevant by suspecting me. i don’t care how you view me here but the logic is that you’d waste all your effort on me and i think you’re town so i’d just ignore you

and voila d3 where you haven’t put effort into finding me and all my play ignoring lily is ignored by you and etc etc

it’s a shitshow and i’m warning you

@Long Con

it'll happen again, you can't say that i didn't warn you about exactly how this cycle would turn out

With you leading the game to wagon a valuable Town member? You are truly unbelievable. At least you make me laugh.

it happened exactly as i said it'd happen, and it'll happen again if you vote me tomorrow

i'm again warning you to not vote me tomorrow, suspect me all you want but sort outside of me for your own sake

I forgot to put the night poll up. Its up now

Well
Who wants a cookie tonight?

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:23 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:24 am "Limited Parity Checker": The way S~V~S is claiming the role works is extremely strong?

I would certainly not expect Hat and Boot to mean the same thing across nights.

Sigh. I appreciate the info but no, I'm not exactly happy.

cheer up, i am very happy, i always trade 1 town for 1 mafia and 2 clears very single time

not to say that it was planned or that i didn't brutally kill a town or anything, but the way it turned out was great

No we didn't, we got 1 clear for 1 town at best.

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:58 am

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:23 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:24 am "Limited Parity Checker": The way S~V~S is claiming the role works is extremely strong?

I would certainly not expect Hat and Boot to mean the same thing across nights.

Sigh. I appreciate the info but no, I'm not exactly happy.

cheer up, i am very happy, i always trade 1 town for 1 mafia and 2 clears very single time

not to say that it was planned or that i didn't brutally kill a town or anything, but the way it turned out was great

No we didn't, we got 1 clear for 1 town at best.

read the legacy, clears wwa and long con, and flips marmot red

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:27 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:15 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:12 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:12 am Does Abigail not holding vote indicate that they are, in fact, town?




FIND OUT NEXT TIME ON DRAGON BALL Z

Yeah she's town
Not only that, but she went on about how town doesn't need to leave a legacy if they have nothing to say that they didn't already say in the thread.
She doesn't need to say that if she knows there's a janitor; she could just be like yeah, whatever, town can write as much as they want! Maybe that's a bit uncharacteristic of Abbi but hopefully you get my point. Eyeing svs because she did exactly that and hasn't produced much in general. Maybe there are others. If this is multiball with two scum teams, one of whom does not have a janitor, that would change things a bit, but I think for now I'm comfortable considering Abbi town. You may also be right about her withholding her vote, tbh.

Idk how to ping Abbi cause I don't have that star character on my keyboard.

I feel like copy paste would work but maybe not

Anyways thank you uwu I'm fine with this I think

I highly highly doubt this is nultiball

I recently played a multiball closed setup where the player who got yeeted D1 and I who got yeeted D2 were both 3p survivors in a game where literally everyone else was on a scumteam and there were two *actual* wolves, so it was their duty to figure out that they were multiball town with 2 scum to kill.

But obviously, they killed the two survivors who had absolutely no idea about the setup whatsoever first. Lol.

However wild Rondo gets with his setups, I doubt it's like that.

What the actual fuck lol

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:59 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:58 am

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:23 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:24 am "Limited Parity Checker": The way S~V~S is claiming the role works is extremely strong?

I would certainly not expect Hat and Boot to mean the same thing across nights.

Sigh. I appreciate the info but no, I'm not exactly happy.

cheer up, i am very happy, i always trade 1 town for 1 mafia and 2 clears very single time

not to say that it was planned or that i didn't brutally kill a town or anything, but the way it turned out was great

No we didn't, we got 1 clear for 1 town at best.

read the legacy, clears wwa and long con, and flips marmot red

You're terrible at this.

There's very little utility in knowing WWA is town or Marmot is wolf.

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:01 am

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:59 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:58 am

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:23 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:24 am "Limited Parity Checker": The way S~V~S is claiming the role works is extremely strong?

I would certainly not expect Hat and Boot to mean the same thing across nights.

Sigh. I appreciate the info but no, I'm not exactly happy.

cheer up, i am very happy, i always trade 1 town for 1 mafia and 2 clears very single time

not to say that it was planned or that i didn't brutally kill a town or anything, but the way it turned out was great

No we didn't, we got 1 clear for 1 town at best.

read the legacy, clears wwa and long con, and flips marmot red

You're terrible at this.

ur a separatist