The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:09 pm**

I'd appreciate some external thoughts, apart from Mac who already provided a take, on my most recent dialogue with novaselinenever.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:10 pm**

If you'll excuse me, I have to see a man about a horse.

Not a literal horse, because fuck horses.

I'll be back afterwards.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:11 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:48 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:13 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:08 pm No, you haven't. I'm not really buying that tbh tbf. You threw my name around before you did your analysis of the Avito's wagon. From there, your ISOs of the votes were concluded with " mild suspicions ", " not a good look", "talk to me scotty", that didn't amount to much. You even followed one of them up with questions about me to Scotty. Your prodding of Juliets doesn't align with that of a lynch target. I don't buy your whole "I suspect you but I don't want to put a 3rd vote on you. I'll give you room".
I don't care what you buy. I seem to be the most present force in the thread right now, and that means I have the responsibility of facilitating a productive day phase to the best of my ability. juliets had been made well-aware of the suspicions against her, and I wanted her to focus on her own hunting instead of responding continually to that stuff.

Talk to me about Epignosis.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:08 pmAbout your concerns,

How is the highlighted line bogus ? And, how did you come to the conclusion that Avito wouldn't respond to that ultimatum ?

I said throwing votes early D1 is something he often does, especially votes on me. But as Town, he wouldn't end his day there and would start getting active and starting to contribute. Him not following through and using our history to park his vote on me without justification is the reason I started pushing him.
Avito gave me no reason in his brief appearance here to believe that he was interested in playing the way someone else told him to play. Do you think he was likely to be responsive to that ultimatum?
Not entirely responsive. Likely to react to it but not positively. Start contributing to prove me wrong and build a case against me, if he believed I was bad.

I really don't know what to think of Epignosis. I liked him post-D1 and his whole feud with you. I was expecting Epignosis to be voting for you today, as he mentioned it last night and invited others to do so today. I was confused when he didn't, and I've been confused ever since with his meaningless posts and voting pattern. With that being said though, I read him as Town though.

What about you?
One day someone will figure me out, and then I'll have to do things differently.

Why should I vote Kyle ?

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:11 pm**

[mention]MacDougall[/mention], can you expand on your hatred of that post by Jack?

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:14 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:11 pm @MacDougall, can you expand on your hatred of that post by Jack?

He said "I guess" and then validated a vote on a wagon gaining momentum with hyperbole. It was opportunistic.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:14 pm**

At some point I liked sprityo and I can't remember why.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 4:37 am I forgot to say when I threw out my gut mafia team, but JJJ is most definitely koro sensei

Indy hunting.

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:15 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:09 pm I'd appreciate some external thoughts, apart from Mac who already provided a take, on my most recent dialogue with novaselinenever.

For some reason I'm having trouble finding this. All I see is Epi stuff. Would you do me a favor and link?

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:17 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:15 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:09 pm I'd appreciate some external thoughts, apart from Mac who already provided a take, on my most recent dialogue with novaselinenever.
For some reason I'm having trouble finding this. All I see is Epi stuff. Would you do me a favor and link?

Starts around 6th from the bottom

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:19 pm**

I see DDL omgus voted me and Long Con also voted me but they both moved off me. Shifty. Where do we stand on Long Con after his near lynch? Do we give him endless credit for telling Jay to fuck off because he has been a fairly blendy character all game.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:20 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:19 pm I see DDL omgus voted me and Long Con also voted me but they both moved off me. Shifty. Where do we stand on Long Con after his near lynch? Do we give him endless credit for telling Jay to fuck off because he has been a fairly blendy character all game.

That's one of those moments where my read is pretty much decided the moment I see it, because any other universe would be so disappointing.

I can't really be objective on the matter.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:20 pm**

Gonna slide into these pantaloons and see how it feels.

[VOTE: wolbre04] aubergine

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:24 pm**

I might have a blind spot for Wolbre but I have liked him since the moment he showed up in Greece. I have started to give new players the benefit of the doubt for commonly pingy things and outside of a few face scrunching moments his willingness to get involved seems in contrast to new players I am used to. I would rather lynch Pennywise than Wolbre. At least Wolbre is participating.

I would put Wolbre as a light green skittle.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:25 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:19 pm I see DDL omgus voted me and Long Con also voted me but they both moved off me. Shifty. Where do we stand on Long Con after his near lynch? Do we give him endless credit for telling Jay to fuck off because he has been a fairly blendy character all game.
That's one of those moments where my read is pretty much decided the moment I see it, because any other universe would be so disappointing.

I can't really be objective on the matter.

You would be disappointed if a Mafia Long Con told you to fuck off?

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:26 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:24 pm I might have a blind spot for Wolbre but I have liked him since the moment he showed up in Greece. I have started to give new players the benefit of the doubt for commonly pingy things and outside of a few face scrunching moments his willingness to get involved seems in contrast to new players I am used to. I would rather lynch Pennywise than Wolbre. At least Wolbre is participating.

I would put Wolbre as a light green skittle.

I'm a bit frustrated that after an effortful day I am not finding much inspiration here.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:27 pm**

ISO Jack. I have to leave.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:27 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:25 pm You would be disappointed if a Mafia Long Con told you to fuck off?

Yes. There's civilian frustration which is understandable and part of the game. To lambaste someone for doing the thing they're supposed to do to win the game is not cool.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:28 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:17 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:15 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:09 pm I'd appreciate some external thoughts, apart from Mac who already provided a take, on my most recent dialogue with novaselinenever.
For some reason I'm having trouble finding this. All I see is Epi stuff. Would you do me a favor and link?
Starts around 6th from the bottom

Well I don't agree with his assertion that basically you've been out to get him all along today. My read is you have been pointing out suspicions on different people as the day has gone along. I would like to see more specific info from him on his sprityo read. I realize my read is gut but I would expect his read - since he said he wanted him dead - to have some specifics.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:31 pm**

I am also not feeling particularly inspired by anyone today. Regarding wolbre I didn't really like his Epi vote followed by him leaving because Epi had not even had a chance to respond. Maybe I will take a look at his ISO.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:50 pm**

Pennywise wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 2:14 pm > day 3

>_>

I prefer to read everything.
So reading everything it will be.

Crickets.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:57 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:10 pm If you'll excuse me, I have to see a man about a horse.

Not a literal horse, because fuck horses.

I'll be back afterwards.

That reminds me. I forgot to send you that link.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 6:58 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:27 pm ISO Jack. I have to leave.

Please don’t. It’s embarrassing.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:10 pm**

So we're lynching Epi then?

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:12 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:10 pm So we're lynching Epi then?

I'm flirting with voting DDL. I think that can still happen with a good push.

What's your case on him ?

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:14 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:10 pm So we're lynching Epi then?

I'm open to alternatives. I don't really have time right now to ISO Jack and turn around on a civilian read, but if you have more on him then I'll listen.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:15 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:10 pm So we're lynching Epi then?

On what basis? I'm weird? I didn't explain my Kyle vote (even though I did)? I kissed a girl (and liked it)?

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:17 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:10 pm So we're lynching Epi then?
On what basis? I'm weird? I didn't explain my Kyle vote (even though I did)? I kissed a girl (and liked it)?

You haven't hunted for a mafioso today.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:19 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:17 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:10 pm So we're lynching Epi then?
On what basis? I'm weird? I didn't explain my Kyle vote (even though I did)? I kissed a girl (and liked it)?
You haven't hunted for a mafioso today.

That applies to plenty of people far less skilled than I. That isn't the basis for my lynch.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:20 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:19 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:17 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:10 pm So we're lynching Epi then?
On what basis? I'm weird? I didn't explain my Kyle vote (even though I did)? I kissed a girl (and liked it)?
You haven't hunted for a mafioso today.
That applies to plenty of people far less skilled than I. That isn't the basis for my lynch.

That's the problem. You're not doing the things that win games. You usually do. Other people don't always bother.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:21 pm**

Epignosis isn't hunting because he doesn't want us picking at his corpse to find clues about his teammates.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:21 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:20 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:19 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:17 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:10 pm So we're lynching Epi then?
On what basis? I'm weird? I didn't explain my Kyle vote (even though I did)? I kissed a girl (and liked it)?
You haven't hunted for a mafioso today.
That applies to plenty of people far less skilled than I. That isn't the basis for my lynch.
That's the problem. You're not doing the things that win games. You usually do. Other people don't always bother.

What are the things that I should be doing?

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:22 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:21 pm What are the things that I should be doing?

You don't need me to tell you that. You're a big boy.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:22 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:21 pm Epignosis isn't hunting because he doesn't want us picking at his corpse to find clues about his teammates.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:22 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:21 pm What are the things that I should be doing?
You don't need me to tell you that. You're a big boy.

I've done what I intended to do, more or less.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:23 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:22 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:21 pm What are the things that I should be doing?
You don't need me to tell you that. You're a big boy.
I've done what I intended to do, more or less.

Let me know what you've learned when you're ready.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:25 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:23 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:22 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:21 pm What are the things that I should be doing?
You don't need me to tell you that. You're a big boy.
I've done what I intended to do, more or less.
Let me know what you've learned when you're ready.

You don't understand.

I haven't learned anything.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:26 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:25 pm You don't understand.

I haven't learned anything.

Let me know what inferences you're willing to make based upon what you have observed when you're ready.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:27 pm**

I read through wolbre and didn't see anything that excites me for a vote, plus I like what Mac had to say about him. I still don't like his voting Epi and then leaving without having heard Epi's side of things but I think thats probably a cultural thing. It may not be a big deal where he comes from whereas it was where I come from.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:28 pm**

I don't have any inferences I'm willing to share (since at least one of them is impolite).

I've served a purpose in this, and I'm fine with it, and am satisfied that nobody gets what I've done. If people lynch me for my approach here, then you can deal with them after Night 3. Or not deal with them. I won't be around to care.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:29 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:27 pm I read through wolbre and didn't see anything that excites me for a vote, plus I like what Mac had to say about him. I still don't like his voting Epi and then leaving without having heard Epi's side of things but I think thats probably a cultural thing. It may not be a big deal where he comes from whereas it was where I come from.

I am not keen on voting for you, and I get the impression the feeling is mutual. I suggest you and I come up with someone who isn't you or me and we vote together.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:30 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:14 pm At some point I liked sprityo and I can't remember why.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 4:37 am I forgot to say when I threw out my gut mafia team, but JJJ is most definitely koro sensei
Indy hunting.

Spoiler: show

Oh so I was right? Wonderful

Looks like I don’t have to worry about this the rest of the game

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:31 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:29 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:27 pm I read through wolbre and didn't see anything that excites me for a vote, plus I like what Mac had to say about him. I still don't like his voting Epi and then leaving without having heard Epi's side of things but I think thats probably a cultural thing. It may not be a big deal where he comes from whereas it was where I come from.
I am not keen on voting for you, and I get the impression the feeling is mutual. I suggest you and I come up with someone who isn't you or me and we vote together.

I'm fine with that Epi, I do not want to vote for you. Do you have anyone in mind?

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:31 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:30 pm Oh so I was right? Wonderful

Looks like I don’t have to worry about this the rest of the game

Yeah I don't care about the indy. Who's bad?

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:31 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:10 pm So we're lynching Epi then?
I'm flirting with voting DDL. I think that can still happen with a good push.

What's your case on him ?

I got annoyed when he made a big ugly colourful post and made out like I was bad. It felt fake. But nobody agrees so fuck it.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:32 pm**

Gonna look at this Epi wagon once I get off shift. Day should still be going on right?

Give me like 5 more hours and I can catch up

Linki: [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] see you in 5 hours

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:32 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:32 pm Gonna look at this Epi wagon once I get off shift. Day should still be going on right?

Give me like 5 more hours and I can catch up

Linki: @JaggedJimmyJay see you in 5 hours

You have one hour before the deadline.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:34 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:31 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:29 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:27 pm I read through wolbre and didn't see anything that excites me for a vote, plus I like what Mac had to say about him. I still don't like his voting Epi and then leaving without having heard Epi's side of things but I think thats probably a cultural thing. It may not be a big deal where he comes from whereas it was where I come from.
I am not keen on voting for you, and I get the impression the feeling is mutual. I suggest you and I come up with someone who isn't you or me and we vote together.
I'm fine with that Epi, I do not want to vote for you. Do you have anyone in mind?

No. That's my trouble.

Fuck it.

[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:35 pm**

DDL voted for me for a stupid reason (like I owe him a Kylemii vote explanation), and if you vote for him, then that makes it 3-DDL, 4-Epi, which means you will be unlikely to be lynched, and I'm fine with that.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:35 pm**

Jay, did you present any points on wolbre?

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:38 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:35 pm DDL voted for me for a stupid reason (like I owe him a Kylemii vote explanation), and if you vote for him, then that makes it 3-DDL, 4-Epi, which means you will be unlikely to be lynched, and I'm fine with that.

Oh gosh Epi I'm seeing DDL as town. I'm trying to understand what Jay is seeing in wolbre, thinking I may have missed something. If you have to vote for me go ahead, I understand and it's just a game.

Posted: **Tue May 08, 2018 7:40 pm**

Players I would not miss if they were lynched:

Dom
insertnamehere
Jackofhearts2005
Kylemii
Long Con
Marmot
Pennywise
sprityo

So given that, I guess my real issue here is that there are too few people proving themselves to be solid townies.

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