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Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:28 pm**

I suppose anticop must have acted a certain way in the beginning so maybe we can read them based on that?

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:34 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:28 pm I suppose anticop must have acted a certain way in the beginning so maybe we can read them based on that?

what type of way

are you actually the anticop

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:36 pm**

I am currently in a rich vein of form

absolutely unreal the solving I have put forth

breathtaking stuff

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:37 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:34 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:28 pm I suppose anticop must have acted a certain way in the beginning so maybe we can read them based on that?
what type of way

are you actually the anticop

Dunno. They'd probably try to not get lynched too soon.

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:50 pm**

yeah i propose gira as last town everyone else die

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:50 pm**

or kza idk

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:58 pm**

Dunno why are we talking about last town rn

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:59 pm**

Also no way would anyone trust Gira the most alongside Marmot. They're doing pretty much what I'd expect last traitor to do.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:00 am**

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:59 pm Also no way would anyone trust Gira the most alongside Marmot. They're doing pretty much what I'd expect last traitor to do.

I mean, they might probably be just town. Though, I don't see anything that makes them unlikely to be last traitor enough to be that trusted.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:00 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:50 pm yeah i propose gira as last town everyone else die

appreciate th gesture but i shouldn't be, simply because i'm the one laying out the plan lol

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:00 am**

[VOTE: KZA] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:01 am**

I think same procedures: Marmot's vote is final and where we should go, whether that be lynch or exile.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:05 am**

Gira wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:00 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:50 pm yeah i propose gira as last town everyone else die
appreciate th gesture but i shouldn't be, simply because i'm the one laying out the plan lol

blah blah blah

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:06 am**

i'm not particularly worried

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:07 am**

TonyStarkPrime still remains as my prime candidate for last wolf.

If not him, then I think we'll need to revisit Poison. They had a greencheck D2 but atp we all know last traitor would return greenchecked.

Then I think it's between Gira and MacDougall. As much as they can say they contributed to town, they're both players of enough caliber to play this out as last traitor.

I'm not sure where exactly to put MissSparkles, if before or after Gira and MacDougall. Thought they'd be pretty demotivated if they were last traitor, but dunno.

Long Con still has the slank = town pass, but I hope I'll get some confirmation before we reach this point here.

WimL elaborated the big plan or something, but it's still possible WimL could have done this as last traitor to buy some time.

If Wisdom is wolf here, then I'll be a bit surprised and will need to relearn how to read her. However, she still looks town pretty damn town.

Now I'm kinda afraid KZA knew he couldn't be red checked and acted appropriately. But fuck, why give such work to hunt for the anticop?

And there's Marmot, the now a mere innocent child that can't be killed because it's nightless.

And there's me. Hope you all don't get to the point of tinfoiling me.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:10 am**

The way I made this list feels like 1984 mafia all again where I didn't realize see anyone as the solo mafia and turned out there indeed wasn't any solo mafia. It's kinda a funny spectacle when you keep throwing shade at everyone despite deep down thinking "they're prob just town". With the exception that I don't really have a reason to townread TSP here while I have a reason to townread everybody else.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:15 am**

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:33 pm

yeah that's valid

so Auwt, Poison, KGMurphy seems like the most likely anticop pool

holy shit

I hope it's Poison so I can pretend this was a god tier read

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:19 am**

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:15 am
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:33 pm

yeah that's valid

so Auwt, Poison, KGMurphy seems like the most likely anticop pool
holy shit

I hope it's Poison so I can pretend this was a god tier read

Oh that's also possible

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:20 am**

Fuck I think TSP and Poison are roughly the same tier.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:21 am**

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:14 pm If there was no guilty, I'd probably go for Auwt today and maybe Poison the next day.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:20 pm I confess I'd feel a bit disappointed if the red check was on Auwt or Poison as both are a bit obvious traitor here, but anyone else feels like a good hit. Imagine if it is someone like MacDougall or Long Con.

Decent chance for Poison to be wolf here too.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:21 am**

I think a thunderdome between TSP and Poison looks good?

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:23 am**

i don't care enough for a thunderdome just kill us both

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:24 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:23 am i don't care enough for a thunderdome just kill us both

Sure.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:24 am**

Are you seeing Poison as last traitor here?

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:25 am**

tbh i've been here for approximately half a phase and I have interacted with maybe half the player list and I'm putting the poisoner in most likely the other half of the player list

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:27 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:25 am tbh i've been here for approximately half a phase and I have interacted with maybe half the player list and I'm putting the poisoner in most likely the other half of the player list

Yeah, fair.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:28 am**

poison for sure

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:28 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:28 am poison for sure

Starting to see the same. Maybe just because TSP just replaced in and want to let them do a little more stuff for a while.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:31 am**

Should be two more to maj?

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:34 am**

Poison/TSP feels like a winning POE as stupid as that sounds when articulated

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:35 am**

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:20 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:42 am I agree with 112's appraisal of KZA. I usually find KZA billboard town. So an absence of that is simply >rand mafia.
This is complete bullshit?

I can't recall a single time town Mac has ever strongly townread me in a game

Though I find it a bit weird how KZA went from this to giving zero fucks about my slot as soon as he got green checked.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:36 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:44 am I think my top bets for baddies here are Wisdom, Poison and Falcon. This is all off page 6 reads lol.

*nods*

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:36 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:35 am
KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:20 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:42 am I agree with 112's appraisal of KZA. I usually find KZA billboard town. So an absence of that is simply >rand mafia.
This is complete bullshit?

I can't recall a single time town Mac has ever strongly townread me in a game
Though I find it a bit weird how KZA went from this to giving zero fucks about my slot as soon as he got green checked.

KZA never got green checked?

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:43 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:27 am Aight I did a bit of light ISO of everybody there. I didn't go into super detail but I got enough of a baseline to be comfortable.

Strong town

Wisdom - Genuine solving right off the bat. Immediately townreading Wiml is not something Wisdom would do as traitor I don't think. It was a real read and if she is a traitor town reading Wiml i think she probably doesn't even say anything there. Yes I know this is a 180.
Wiml - Already kinda stated it.
Miss Sparkles - Crazed levels of solving to the point of insanity. Hyperposting (comparatively) on a site that she is unfamiliar with. Just >rand town.

Lean town

KGMurphy - Short. Kinda ISO I'd expect from someone who is just here to have a bit of a laugh. Nothing sus.
Marmot - Kinda just think so... can't really articulate why.
LC - LC revels in a randing weird adversarial 3p style things. In this game he isn't in his element with a town rand, and therefore his lack of enthusiasm is towny for him.
Gira - Exploded into the thread in a really towny way, but there's room for doubt because I have no meta to understand their range.
KZA - Reacted to me kinda towny at the end of the day here. At the start of the day the post where he said he was gonna tunnel Falcon and 112 was hilar and towny.

Lean traitor

falcon - Just off. Weird read and push on Wiml in the early game based on nothing. Seemed invented. There were some other reasons I'd already stated and the ISO read gave me nothing to drop it for.
cat - Not much to go on really. Nothing towny, kinda here by default??
Auwt - Awkward at times. Seems concerned with their appearance to me.

Strong traitor

Poison - What Wiml said.

Good reads or great reads?

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:43 am**

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:36 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:35 am
KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:20 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:42 am I agree with 112's appraisal of KZA. I usually find KZA billboard town. So an absence of that is simply >rand mafia.
This is complete bullshit?

I can't recall a single time town Mac has ever strongly townread me in a game
Though I find it a bit weird how KZA went from this to giving zero fucks about my slot as soon as he got green checked.
KZA never got green checked?

Oh... wasn't KZA Marmot's first check? How did we get off tunneling the shit out of kza to begin with?

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:44 am**

kza got fake red checked and reacted right or something and then was towny ever since

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:45 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:43 am
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:36 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:35 am
KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:20 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:42 am I agree with 112's appraisal of KZA. I usually find KZA billboard town. So an absence of that is simply >rand mafia.
This is complete bullshit?

I can't recall a single time town Mac has ever strongly townread me in a game
Though I find it a bit weird how KZA went from this to giving zero fucks about my slot as soon as he got green checked.
KZA never got green checked?
Oh... wasn't KZA Marmot's first check? How did we get off tunneling the shit out of kza to begin with?

Marmot actually checked Falcon D1 and got red. However, Marmot instead decided to fake a red check on KZA and KZA acted town who thought they were framed instead of caught traitor. Then Marmot revealed his red check on KZA was fake and told his real check and since then we've been treating KZA town based on spew. Though, pretty sure Marmot checked Poison green D2.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:45 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:44 am kza got fake red checked and reacted right or something and then was towny ever since

Well i thought KZA was towny before that so whatever, forget my sus

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:46 am**

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:45 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:43 am
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:36 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:35 am
KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:20 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:42 am I agree with 112's appraisal of KZA. I usually find KZA billboard town. So an absence of that is simply >rand mafia.
This is complete bullshit?

I can't recall a single time town Mac has ever strongly townread me in a game
Though I find it a bit weird how KZA went from this to giving zero fucks about my slot as soon as he got green checked.
KZA never got green checked?
Oh... wasn't KZA Marmot's first check? How did we get off tunneling the shit out of kza to begin with?
Marmot actually checked Falcon D1 and got red. However, Marmot instead decided to fake a red check on KZA and KZA acted town who thought they were framed instead of caught traitor. Then Marmot revealed his red check on KZA was fake and told his real check and since then we've been treating KZA town based on spew. Though, pretty sure Marmot checked Poison green D2.

totally forgot about that

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:46 am**

Not sure if it is even that spewy anymore considering an anticop!KZA would know it's fake, but the work on finding the anticop based on the supposed frame seems genuine.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:54 am**

gosh why would the anticop still be actually playing the game tho? has anyone like, stopped posting or some shit? or subbed out (lol yes).

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:57 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:34 am Poison/TSP feels like a winning POE as stupid as that sounds when articulated

I know how it feels. When the path looks so green we see shades of red everywhere. Simple logic should point the last traitor is between them. I think I'd do Poison first as TSP at least earned one more day.

This should be my 300th post. I'm ready to just hammer exile on KZA and go to dayphase. Now I should probably go to sleep.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:00 am**

But the Poison green check is like... huge. It seems dumb to chop her until lylo honestly.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:06 am**

I suppose the fact that the last one left is the anticop and if we agree the anticop just self targets all game long then maybe it actually makes sense to chop her earlier....

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:23 am**

yeah we're solely looking for an anticop that mechanically should've self targeted right away so the green on Poison means basically nothing

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:17 am**

Poison is a fine yeet

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:27 am**

I hammer

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:27 am**

*I'll

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:27 am**

I think odds are the last traitor is just somebody who is suddenly absent like Poison.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:28 am**

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:27 am I think odds are the last traitor is just somebody who is suddenly absent like Poison.

Exactly. Absent from thread or absent from solving.

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