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Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:26 pm
by risiinq-
i don't really see how someone can say the read makes me look worse though? if i don't know how visor plays and have only heard/seen a bit about it, it's a normal read for me to make regardless of my alignment

at the same time, i think progression wise it makes sense for outed wolf to then change their mind after there was disagreement on the lily scumread he was telegraphing. just seems genuine. shrug. i acknowledge that it is a controversial read

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:26 pm
by Lilypetal
i am swapping my vote

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:26 pm
by Sabiplz
Achromatic wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:25 pm Sabi please know if you push snow after I die I will be annoyed at you from dvc. Snow please quote this if they do this.
Youre not my dad.

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:27 pm
by santygrass
Esooa wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:20 pm
outed wolf wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:19 pm
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:18 pm like, i saw outed wolf switch silently to achro for a while, then to lily (when they asked why everyone would townread them) and then back to achro

seems natural and not performative, as i dont think they as wolf would /expect/ someone to watch the votecounts and townread them bcuz of that
Damn, villagery read. Well spotted and used if you're a wolf.
really though?
???
You disagree with it being a towny read? Why?

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:27 pm
by Sabiplz
Yiu guise I think the Alison wagon might be a hit.

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:27 pm
by Achromatic
Sabiplz wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:26 pm
Achromatic wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:25 pm Sabi please know if you push snow after I die I will be annoyed at you from dvc. Snow please quote this if they do this.
Youre not my dad.
I mean yes this is accurate.

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:27 pm
by risiinq-
like, see, then porscha moves their vote to outed wolf after seeing people talk about outed wolf

it just feels like v!porscha suddenly went "oh yea- they seemed wolfy to me before, i should vote them!"

it's just how i read into the vote switching thing esp because it's a change from just voting using a poll where people dont immediately see or can react to ur vote than where in the other sites ive played u always have to announce it for everyone to see

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:27 pm
by Achromatic
These current wagons are a lot less good tbh.

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:28 pm
by Esooa
I guess I can understand it as like, there's thoughts going on from OW behind the scenes, just the way it was worded about "a wolf wouldn't expect a person to watch votecounts and town read them" I don't agree with at all because wolves don't do things thinking every action they make is going to net a town read, they just do things, but yeah

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:28 pm
by santygrass
Like, you can disagree with the conclussion from the read, but the /making/ or /thought proccess/ or whatever I think its indeed rand>V from ris and I agree with OW in that

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:28 pm
by Sabiplz
Achromatic wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:27 pm These current wagons are a lot less good tbh.
The Alison one is pure.

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:29 pm
by risiinq-
interesting how achromatic has telegraphed how confident he is on me being town but in his townlist i wasnt even that high

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:29 pm
by Sabiplz
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:26 pm i don't really see how someone can say the read makes me look worse though? if i don't know how visor plays and have only heard/seen a bit about it, it's a normal read for me to make regardless of my alignment

at the same time, i think progression wise it makes sense for outed wolf to then change their mind after there was disagreement on the lily scumread he was telegraphing. just seems genuine. shrug. i acknowledge that it is a controversial read
Maybe i overreacted.

I am just baffled at the read.

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:30 pm
by Achromatic
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:29 pm interesting how achromatic has telegraphed how confident he is on me being town but in his townlist i wasnt even that high
Man I had a lot of obv towns to get through you are high enough lol

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:30 pm
by risiinq-
Esooa wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:28 pm I guess I can understand it as like, there's thoughts going on from OW behind the scenes, just the way it was worded about "a wolf wouldn't expect a person to watch votecounts and town read them" I don't agree with at all because wolves don't do things thinking every action they make is going to net a town read, they just do things, but yeah
u could say there's two parts to the read

the first part is that i think you can see the underlying genuine thought process going on when he switched from achro -> lily and then lily -> achro

the second is that i dont think he would try to fake the above, which strengthens the read

i do think that objectively, regardless of my alignment, it /is/ a randtown read to make tho so why do u disagree on that??

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:30 pm
by santygrass
[VOTE: Esooa] aubergine

Nyeh

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:31 pm
by Sabiplz
God ucf is making me miserable.

Why are we so bad

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:31 pm
by risiinq-
i also think observing the votecounts is really really interesting and i consistently check it to see what has changed.

fwiw now that i have outed my read on outed wolf and porscha by using votecounts i think wolves will try it as well and i wont use it as much. i do think my read has value though, lol

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:31 pm
by Esooa
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:30 pm
Esooa wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:28 pm I guess I can understand it as like, there's thoughts going on from OW behind the scenes, just the way it was worded about "a wolf wouldn't expect a person to watch votecounts and town read them" I don't agree with at all because wolves don't do things thinking every action they make is going to net a town read, they just do things, but yeah
u could say there's two parts to the read

the first part is that i think you can see the underlying genuine thought process going on when he switched from achro -> lily and then lily -> achro

the second is that i dont think he would try to fake the above, which strengthens the read

i do think that objectively, regardless of my alignment, it /is/ a randtown read to make tho so why do u disagree on that??
don't really care about the post irt your alignment

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:32 pm
by risiinq-
Esooa wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:31 pm
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:30 pm
Esooa wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:28 pm I guess I can understand it as like, there's thoughts going on from OW behind the scenes, just the way it was worded about "a wolf wouldn't expect a person to watch votecounts and town read them" I don't agree with at all because wolves don't do things thinking every action they make is going to net a town read, they just do things, but yeah
u could say there's two parts to the read

the first part is that i think you can see the underlying genuine thought process going on when he switched from achro -> lily and then lily -> achro

the second is that i dont think he would try to fake the above, which strengthens the read

i do think that objectively, regardless of my alignment, it /is/ a randtown read to make tho so why do u disagree on that??
don't really care about the post irt your alignment
i mean, you did say that you didnt think it made me towny, but fair

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:33 pm
by Porscha
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:27 pm like, see, then porscha moves their vote to outed wolf after seeing people talk about outed wolf

it just feels like v!porscha suddenly went "oh yea- they seemed wolfy to me before, i should vote them!"

it's just how i read into the vote switching thing esp because it's a change from just voting using a poll where people dont immediately see or can react to ur vote than where in the other sites ive played u always have to announce it for everyone to see
I decided to vote ow when I said gth i'd shoot ow

I will now after this construct an argument

I could be a wolf doing this and I don't think it's particularly rand town to be slanking votes around

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:33 pm
by Esooa
but yeah I don't rly disagree on the point you made anymore the wording you had with it before was just like weird to me or something lol

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:33 pm
by risiinq-
i also think that it makes sense for OW to townread/townlean me because of that read especially if it was a correct read and he thinks that it is accurate. shrug.

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:34 pm
by Achromatic
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:33 pm i also think that it makes sense for OW to townread/townlean me because of that read especially if it was a correct read and he thinks that it is accurate. shrug.
Or he is pocketing you. You sre confbiased by your own cleverness right now you should stop. Keep the read if you like but recognize you are compromised tbh

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:34 pm
by risiinq-
Porscha wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:33 pm
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:27 pm like, see, then porscha moves their vote to outed wolf after seeing people talk about outed wolf

it just feels like v!porscha suddenly went "oh yea- they seemed wolfy to me before, i should vote them!"

it's just how i read into the vote switching thing esp because it's a change from just voting using a poll where people dont immediately see or can react to ur vote than where in the other sites ive played u always have to announce it for everyone to see
I decided to vote ow when I said gth i'd shoot ow

I will now after this construct an argument

I could be a wolf doing this and I don't think it's particularly rand town to be slanking votes around
i mean, fair enough

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:35 pm
by Esooa
Achromatic wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:34 pm
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:33 pm i also think that it makes sense for OW to townread/townlean me because of that read especially if it was a correct read and he thinks that it is accurate. shrug.
Or he is pocketing you. You sre confbiased by your own cleverness right now you should stop. Keep the read if you like but recognize you are compromised tbh
lmao recognize you are compromised

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:35 pm
by risiinq-
Achromatic wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:34 pm
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:33 pm i also think that it makes sense for OW to townread/townlean me because of that read especially if it was a correct read and he thinks that it is accurate. shrug.
Or he is pocketing you. You sre confbiased by your own cleverness right now you should stop. Keep the read if you like but recognize you are compromised tbh
i recognized the possibility that he could be pocketing me but i dont think it makes sense for people to scumread OW for liking my read/townreading my read, which was why i posted what you have quoted.

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:36 pm
by Porscha
Esooa wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:35 pm
Achromatic wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:34 pm
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:33 pm i also think that it makes sense for OW to townread/townlean me because of that read especially if it was a correct read and he thinks that it is accurate. shrug.
Or he is pocketing you. You sre confbiased by your own cleverness right now you should stop. Keep the read if you like but recognize you are compromised tbh
lmao recognize you are compromised
*hacker voice* i'm in

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:36 pm
by Sabiplz
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:33 pm i also think that it makes sense for OW to townread/townlean me because of that read especially if it was a correct read and he thinks that it is accurate. shrug.
But the read is wrong (the reasons why aspect). Like that is not how visor plays at all. It's not accurate.

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:36 pm
by Sabiplz
Rising get up.

You are trapped

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:37 pm
by Achromatic
Esooa wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:35 pm
Achromatic wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:34 pm
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:33 pm i also think that it makes sense for OW to townread/townlean me because of that read especially if it was a correct read and he thinks that it is accurate. shrug.
Or he is pocketing you. You sre confbiased by your own cleverness right now you should stop. Keep the read if you like but recognize you are compromised tbh
lmao recognize you are compromised
What did I do now x(

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:37 pm
by risiinq-
Sabiplz wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:36 pm
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:33 pm i also think that it makes sense for OW to townread/townlean me because of that read especially if it was a correct read and he thinks that it is accurate. shrug.
But the read is wrong (the reasons why aspect). Like that is not how visor plays at all. It's not accurate.
i will acknowledge this and weigh it in because u def have more experience with him. i just still like my read, though.

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:37 pm
by santygrass
Porscha wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:36 pm
Esooa wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:35 pm
Achromatic wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:34 pm
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:33 pm i also think that it makes sense for OW to townread/townlean me because of that read especially if it was a correct read and he thinks that it is accurate. shrug.
Or he is pocketing you. You sre confbiased by your own cleverness right now you should stop. Keep the read if you like but recognize you are compromised tbh
lmao recognize you are compromised
*hacker voice* i'm in
Not so outed anymore huh? Ironic

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:38 pm
by risiinq-
Sabiplz wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:36 pm Rising get up.

You are trapped
?

obviously if outed wolf does not improve his slot or if he does something wolfy i will not and have not locktowned his slot... but i will say that he is towny because of that.

do not just discredit my read

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:38 pm
by Achromatic
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:37 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:36 pm
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:33 pm i also think that it makes sense for OW to townread/townlean me because of that read especially if it was a correct read and he thinks that it is accurate. shrug.
But the read is wrong (the reasons why aspect). Like that is not how visor plays at all. It's not accurate.
i will acknowledge this and weigh it in because u def have more experience with him. i just still like my read, though.
This feels like a really towny thing to say tbh lol

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:38 pm
by santygrass
You did well ris, I have got the very valuable information that you are Villa and Esooa Wolf

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:39 pm
by risiinq-
santygrass wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:38 pm You did well ris, I have got the very valuable information that you are Villa and Esooa Wolf
...yay?

i mean, i dont disagree

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:39 pm
by Achromatic
Is esooa a wolf now. They didn't come off that predatory.

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:40 pm
by santygrass
Esooa discredited both the trs of ris and ow alltogether. And like, I can get why they couldnt agree with the read on OW, but ris townyness in that read was very good iml

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:40 pm
by Esooa
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:39 pm
santygrass wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:38 pm You did well ris, I have got the very valuable information that you are Villa and Esooa Wolf
...yay?

i mean, i dont disagree
what?

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:41 pm
by Sabiplz
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:38 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:36 pm Rising get up.

You are trapped
?

obviously if outed wolf does not improve his slot or if he does something wolfy i will not and have not locktowned his slot... but i will say that he is towny because of that.

do not just discredit my read
The get up part was visor trying to pocket you. Sorry

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:41 pm
by risiinq-
Esooa wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:40 pm
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:39 pm
santygrass wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:38 pm You did well ris, I have got the very valuable information that you are Villa and Esooa Wolf
...yay?

i mean, i dont disagree
what?
i dont think you're town rn, although i also dont think you've been necessarily... wolfy

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:41 pm
by Esooa
santygrass wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:40 pm Esooa discredited both the trs of ris and ow alltogether. And like, I can get why they couldnt agree with the read on OW, but ris townyness in that read was very good iml
it's not that deep, come up with something better

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:41 pm
by Achromatic
santygrass wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:40 pm Esooa discredited both the trs of ris and ow alltogether. And like, I can get why they couldnt agree with the read on OW, but ris townyness in that read was very good iml
I don't think someone expressing a difference of opinion is inherently eolfy though. Like; ow is just correct to discredit lol.

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:42 pm
by Esooa
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:41 pm
Esooa wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:40 pm
risiinq- wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:39 pm
santygrass wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:38 pm You did well ris, I have got the very valuable information that you are Villa and Esooa Wolf
...yay?

i mean, i dont disagree
what?
i dont think you're town rn, although i also dont think you've been necessarily... wolfy
feel like I've been pretty towny tbh but if you don't think I'm wolfy at least then whatever I guess lol

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:42 pm
by risiinq-
i think esooa discrediting that the read was towny for me might be more AI than discrediting that OW was towny, but either way it's nothing SUPER huge

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:43 pm
by Sabiplz
Esooa is a lot townier compared to kids birthday party.

Yall can compare the two games. That one ended two days ago.

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:43 pm
by Sabiplz
Esooa is just an enigma

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:44 pm
by MacDougall
achro and esooa are insanely obviously paired if you are paying attention

Re: Mafia Misplay Mafia

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:44 pm
by risiinq-
uhhhhhh i dont think esooa was wolf in kids birthday party though???

wasn't it like. JJJ and misssparkles