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Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:50 am**

Tbh I don't even know what to make of M+'s iso. Don't think he's teamed with TSP putting him at the top of his list.

I also still think 112 should be looked at more lol

Like it's not a long shot that one of Sloonei's teammates bussed and if I were to guess which one it could be i would guess 112. They got their town cred and checked out

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:51 am**

I actually want to wagon 112 lol

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:55 am**

I feel better about wagoning 112 than I do Nanook but I'm willing to vote either bc I don't want M+ wagon to be uncontested

Sadly my chance of being around for EOD isn't high today

I haven't posted/analyzed as much as I would have liked to but my schedule has just been too busy for me lately to make Mafia much of a priority for me. Sorry guys

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:26 am**

TSP and MP on Nook is funneh shit man.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:03 am**

Scirrus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:36 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:01 am
Scirrus wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:05 am @TonyStarkPrime Hi! Can you elaborate more on your read of me? And what's your take on Mac?
My take on Mac is that “I’m cleared town rahhhhhh” with shaky logic is something town try to pull off more than scum, though now that I think about it it doesn’t really have much ground. Not particularly worried at the moment cause he seems solvy.

As far as you, a slightly annoying vote count analysis and, I must say, sheeping the reads of Epi. Since we haven’t played before I have not much to go on, but my general early impression was you were interested in solving — same for M+ though.

My current target for most suspicion is Nanook I don’t know if I said that already
Why Nanook?

Do you find sheeping Epi's reads a good or bad thing?

Sheeping Epi's reads is a little questionable in general. Epi doesn't care much. But I just have no strong opinions on you. Pretty much everyone in the bottom half of the poe has an identically terrible set of votes, and I have no idea how to analyze those. Nanook strikes me as scum because I get the idea that he opportunistically took up various suspicions on Juliets/Sprityo to push (with me) a chop on a spot that couldn't
to defend it, his interactions with Sloonei are suspect (and M+ noted that but I had come to the conclusion separately), and the power role thing though on some examination I don't think that's actually a thing.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:06 am**

Scirrus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:37 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:04 am There’s nothing stopping it from being Nanook/112 by vote analysis. Going back to sleep. Maybe there’ll be power when I wake up.
Why did you bring up these two specifically? Do you find them both independently scummy or something?

They seem like quick POE names. Scirrus/M+ are more adventurous POE names but sometimes you have to think about what the simplest options are. This doesn't feel like a game that's particularly directed by either scum players or town players, it just feels adrift.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:42 am**

Scirrus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:28 am I really don't like how Nanook and FG just kinda fizzled out once we got a scum flip tbh.

MP/Nanook wagons might be good to have considering MP is everyone's main suspect and Nanook is MP/TSPs.

I fizzled out before that tbf

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:47 pm**

Scirrus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:51 am I actually want to wagon 112 lol

FMPOV you've been tunneling me for two rounds. I've been townreading you, but it's starting to look bad on my end. I don't know what to tell you other than that I haven't 'checked out'--just not fully involved this game, which happens to me sometimes. Why am I a better target than mac for low-mid posters?

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:55 pm**

MP is a high-percentage lynch. Nanook is more middling.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:08 pm**

Scirrus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:30 am
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:18 pm mmmm scratch that i think ima just sit and not commit to a read, but i'm leaning on sheeping. sry. ya girl was a CLOWN during eod so im tryna listen
Didn't you think I was like the scummiest person ever? What happened to that?

i realized last phase that I was likely wrong but didnt bother to talk about it haha

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:30 pm**

I'm going with the Nanook vote. I posted my POE in technicolor a bunch of posts back. Scirrus, Nanook, Tony, M+7. Right now Nanook and M+ are in the lead, and I have chosen to trust M+ is town. If he's bad, then there are a few techniques that I have seen him use which will automatically earn my vote in future games. I'd like to think he wouldn't put himself in that position. [VOTE: nanook] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:43 pm**

Tbh I can’t really blame anyone for scumreading me, I’ve played pretty poorly this game

Don’t kill me and I won’t pretend to have good reads this game is the best I can do tbh

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:17 pm**

If you are town and not voting on MP you really need black jesus

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:48 pm**

my vote's going on mp here. i don't think nanook's a wolf. mp... could be.

i reread d1 eod and nanook's iso ftr

but yeah just wanna let y'all do your thing

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:48 pm**

I’d probably prefer scirrus tbh but I’m not in a position to be making confident reads lol

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:50 pm**

oh i thought mp was in the lead but it was nanook

um..... nahhh fam i think he's town but hey might be clowning again but check the iso

chances are they're both town

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:53 pm**

yes nanook's voting record is incredibly suspect but ya girl here hard defended a wolf right before he flipped so anything's possible

inb4 im doing it again

whatever i need another flip to ground myself y'all just do your thing

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:14 pm**

Hey all, I should be around off and on until EoD.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:18 pm**

Scirrus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:51 am I actually want to wagon 112 lol

Can you elaborate on this?

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:19 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:26 am TSP and MP on Nook is funneh shit man.

Why exactly?

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:20 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:17 pm If you are town and not voting on MP you really need black jesus

What the actual fuck

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:20 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:48 pm my vote's going on mp here. i don't think nanook's a wolf. mp... could be.

i reread d1 eod and nanook's iso ftr

but yeah just wanna let y'all do your thing

Mind elaborating?

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:21 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:53 pm yes nanook's voting record is incredibly suspect but ya girl here hard defended a wolf right before he flipped so anything's possible

inb4 im doing it again

whatever i need another flip to ground myself y'all just do your thing

What makes you think that I didn't hard defend a wolf as town as well?

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:22 pm**

I'm a bit concerned that I'm wrong and these are v/v wagons.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:26 pm**

Is anyone else around?

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:31 pm**

I really have a sinking feeling about this. The complacency is... bad.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:32 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:26 pm Is anyone else around?

Hi!

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:32 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:48 pm I’d probably prefer scirrus tbh but I’m not in a position to be making confident reads lol

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention]

Talk to me about this.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:34 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:32 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:26 pm Is anyone else around?
Hi!

How are you, Dizzy?

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:36 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:34 pmHow are you, Dizzy?

Very middle of the road. I'm going to go for a night walk now. So that will be nice. ^^

Hope you are good, although you may get yeeted

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:41 pm**

Thanks Dizzy. I understand that.

I hope someone else at least will talk to me before EoD. Sigh.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:51 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:20 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:48 pm my vote's going on mp here. i don't think nanook's a wolf. mp... could be.

i reread d1 eod and nanook's iso ftr

but yeah just wanna let y'all do your thing
Mind elaborating?

from what i recall reading in corrupt nanook is a real schemey wolf. he has major WIL here. on top of that, would he hard defend his partner and then watch him die when he also spearheaded a town lynch the day before?

nah i think nanook's town and stopped trying at some point. i get it though

i mean, you /could/ be town. idk im just not tryna rock the boat this phase y'no?

fwiw, sloonei let himself die. i don't think his wolf partners are as obvious as we think

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:52 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:51 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:20 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:48 pm my vote's going on mp here. i don't think nanook's a wolf. mp... could be.

i reread d1 eod and nanook's iso ftr

but yeah just wanna let y'all do your thing
Mind elaborating?
from what i recall reading in corrupt nanook is a real schemey wolf. he has major WIL here. on top of that, would he hard defend his partner and then watch him die when he also spearheaded a town lynch the day before?

nah i think nanook's town and stopped trying at some point. i get it though

i mean, you /could/ be town. idk im just not tryna rock the boat this phase y'no?

fwiw, sloonei let himself die. i don't think his wolf partners are as obvious as we think

Yeah, that's a good point, I don't sense any agenda from Nanook, so I'm worried I'm wrong about the Sloonei interactions thing.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:53 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:52 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:51 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:20 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:48 pm my vote's going on mp here. i don't think nanook's a wolf. mp... could be.

i reread d1 eod and nanook's iso ftr

but yeah just wanna let y'all do your thing
Mind elaborating?
from what i recall reading in corrupt nanook is a real schemey wolf. he has major WIL here. on top of that, would he hard defend his partner and then watch him die when he also spearheaded a town lynch the day before?

nah i think nanook's town and stopped trying at some point. i get it though

i mean, you /could/ be town. idk im just not tryna rock the boat this phase y'no?

fwiw, sloonei let himself die. i don't think his wolf partners are as obvious as we think
Yeah, that's a good point, I don't sense any agenda from Nanook, so I'm worried I'm wrong about the Sloonei interactions thing.

who else would you want to see dead?

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:54 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:53 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:52 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:51 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:20 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:48 pm my vote's going on mp here. i don't think nanook's a wolf. mp... could be.

i reread d1 eod and nanook's iso ftr

but yeah just wanna let y'all do your thing
Mind elaborating?
from what i recall reading in corrupt nanook is a real schemey wolf. he has major WIL here. on top of that, would he hard defend his partner and then watch him die when he also spearheaded a town lynch the day before?

nah i think nanook's town and stopped trying at some point. i get it though

i mean, you /could/ be town. idk im just not tryna rock the boat this phase y'no?

fwiw, sloonei let himself die. i don't think his wolf partners are as obvious as we think
Yeah, that's a good point, I don't sense any agenda from Nanook, so I'm worried I'm wrong about the Sloonei interactions thing.
who else would you want to see dead?

I'm not really sure. Maybe Scirrus. I must be misclearing someone.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:54 pm**

I'm not super happy with Mac's obsessive tunneling of me, and I hope you all hold him accountable for actually doing things once he's proven wrong... I've been tempted to think he's town this whole time, but what do I know.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:03 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:32 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:48 pm I’d probably prefer scirrus tbh but I’m not in a position to be making confident reads lol
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Talk to me about this.

Idk man he just feels scummy to me

But my reads have been actual trash this game so I’m not real comfortable pushing anything beyond “not me”

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:04 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:03 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:32 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:48 pm I’d probably prefer scirrus tbh but I’m not in a position to be making confident reads lol
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Talk to me about this.
Idk man he just feels scummy to me

But my reads have been actual trash this game so I’m not real comfortable pushing anything beyond “not me”

I... can relate to that sentiment. But if you and I are both town here we're in a bad spot. What should we do?

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:05 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:04 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:03 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:32 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:48 pm I’d probably prefer scirrus tbh but I’m not in a position to be making confident reads lol
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Talk to me about this.
Idk man he just feels scummy to me

But my reads have been actual trash this game so I’m not real comfortable pushing anything beyond “not me”
I... can relate to that sentiment. But if you and I are both town here we're in a bad spot. What should we do?

.....

Take a guess?

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:06 pm**

Alright, fuck it, let's go.

[VOTE: SCIRRUS] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:07 pm**

LET'S DO THIS SHIT

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:11 pm**

sdfljasdhfujikladhfliadf where is everyone ahhhhhh

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:16 pm**

This is something.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:16 pm**

Well, I better do shit myself I guess.

LC and TSP are both always town, NEVER LYNCH THEM.

Not sure about everyone else. I'll do some more ISOing.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:19 pm**

112 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:59 am I think I've played one game with scum!mac but don't recall how he played in it. But he's been a much more vocal force early on in town games I've played with him.

This reads like a non-committal thing a wolf may say about their teammate.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:20 pm**

112 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:26 pm
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Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:41 pm
Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:39 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:52 pm A civilian Sloonei would love "solid reads at this point." It gives him a chance to figure things out later.

Sloonei is not a civilian. Lynch him now.
Tell me a little bit about Sloonei

Does he have trouble keeping a town mindset as scum?

I agree that not wanting solid reads is not really a pro-town thing to say

But I feel like experienced scum would try to avoid saying things like that, because they would look bad. And he strikes me as an experienced player
Sloonei is an excellent civilian. He's a thread leader and a facilitator in the sense that he welcomes and explores hot takes. He also bounces around with his votes to see what comes of it.

He struggles to maintain a civilian facade as mafia. That isn't to say he can't do it. He can.

And not that I buy into post count meaning much, but Sloonei with 25 posts at this point is pretty...shall I say it?

Uninspiring.

I think he's caught and he's clammed up.
This is pretty scathing although I can't say how accurate it is to his meta.

Same thing with this re: 112 and Sloonei actually. It's having it both ways, eh.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:21 pm**

I like 112's posts about Wilgy less now that we know Wilgy/Sloonei was v/w.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:21 pm**

Fuck it, it's 112.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:23 pm**

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:14 pm I don't understand why MP thinks my reads would have stayed static across more than one day of gameplay. That's not something I really know how to dispute other than to say that as the game develops a player usually adjusts their reads.

Does he not think Scirrus is townish?

This is shade of me.

Posted: **Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:24 pm**

112 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:28 am
Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:53 pm
Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:53 pm @112 are you caught up? What are your reads looking like now?
@112
I'm caught up, although I haven't read thoroughly.

I still think you're town. I think Nanook is town. I would put sprityo here but we lynched him.

I don't know what to make of Mac as he's not playing like anything I've seen from him before. I'd lean town because I expect he puts in more effort if he's wolfing, but this isn't a strong lean at this point.

Tony's kind of suspicious. He says he's playing a weak game and from my experience it's scum who are more conscious of not participating well.

Sloonei has been in the lynch discussions since D1 and I get the feeling he's just coasting by/trying not to die instead of actively championing any reads he has.

I haven't read a single post from Soneji this game that I can recall.

And I find Long Con and MP+ suspicious but more so Long Con.

112/Mac w/w, I'm calling it now.

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