The Syndicate

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:58 am No, what’s the rush?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:00 am Can anyone make an even decent looking case anyone here is mafia?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:00 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:58 am No, what’s the rush?

Oh, what did you mean by "lock it soon" then?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:03 am Wait, never mind. It was N5?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:15 am I wonder if there’s a really obvious answer to the Wilgy mystery that just don’t see.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:20 pm So i will stick with my promise for Syn and target him, is everyone ok with this?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:13 am @Syn When you steal roles that died, do you also get the bargain abilities?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:22 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:20 pm So i will stick with my promise for Syn and target him, is everyone ok with this?

I am ok with it, I suppose.

@Syn - please make sure you leave a legacy

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:13 am @Syn When you steal roles that died, do you also get the bargain abilities?

no

which is why I said I have no value to the endgame

the remaining roles are useless and I've done basically nothing the past nights except troll Tim

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:03 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:13 am @Syn When you steal roles that died, do you also get the bargain abilities?

no

which is why I said I have no value to the endgame

the remaining roles are useless and I've done basically nothing the past nights except troll Tim

wait has any bargainees even died to the chop

maybe?

guess I should ask

lol brb

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:52 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:15 am I wonder if there’s a really obvious answer to the Wilgy mystery that just don’t see.

I tinfoiled you because I didn't find the answer at the mistery of that night
Idk why the idea of me playing in town meta came to you so late, and your Poe of today looked agenda-y
It's not hard to be paranoid... i still am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:09 pm wouldn't it be cool if like the gambit demon was fake the whole time lol

like alison was just mafia and all her targets were just pretending to have gambit demon stuff like "wooooooo watch me steal" "I've got a roleblock " and it was just like ALL imaginary

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:24 pm I’m pretty interested to hear what everyone think the strongest argument for them being town is. I’ll lay out my own.

Also interested to hear who people think I should block.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:25 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:09 pm wouldn't it be cool if like the gambit demon was fake the whole time lol

like alison was just mafia and all her targets were just pretending to have gambit demon stuff like "wooooooo watch me steal" "I've got a roleblock " and it was just like ALL imaginary

Lol. Play of the century. But I really do have a block.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:25 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:09 pm wouldn't it be cool if like the gambit demon was fake the whole time lol

like alison was just mafia and all her targets were just pretending to have gambit demon stuff like "wooooooo watch me steal" "I've got a roleblock " and it was just like ALL imaginary

Lol. Play of the century. But I really do have a block.

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:13 am @Syn When you steal roles that died, do you also get the bargain abilities?

no

which is why I said I have no value to the endgame

the remaining roles are useless and I've done basically nothing the past nights except troll Tim

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:25 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:24 pm I’m pretty interested to hear what everyone think the strongest argument for them being town is. I’ll lay out my own.

Also interested to hear who people think I should block.

the strongest argument for me being town will be the flip in 5 hours

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:13 am @Syn When you steal roles that died, do you also get the bargain abilities?

no

which is why I said I have no value to the endgame

the remaining roles are useless and I've done basically nothing the past nights except troll Tim

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:49 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:13 am @Syn When you steal roles that died, do you also get the bargain abilities?

ok yeah this is confirmed now

original roles only

Got it.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:54 pm Apart from just being obv town the most concrete reason based on facts in the thread is this:

For me to be scum you would have to believe that
- I have a 1-shot super protect role as mafia. This role is confirmed via Wilgy.
- I used that 1-shot protect on Nutella, confirmed town and likely to be a target N3. It’s confirmed that I did this via Martin, since his actions was half disrupted. Only my action could have done that.
- If your argument then is “you targeted Nut to gain town cred”, then that is impossible. I would not know at all that my role would interact with Martin in the way it did and thus be able to confirm that I targeted Nut indeed. That was pure coincidence.
- I claimed my role partly immediately when Martin explained what had happened to his actions. I did this because I knew this meant Martin was telling the truth and it cleared him for me. Martin was getting heat in the thread at that time and I outed my info only to back up Martin who I strongly believed to be town. I would have absolutely no incentive or need to do that as mafia, but every incentive to do it as town. (We also know some mafia tried to go for Martin as an easy target, which was in fact one of the things that ticked me off about Sloonei, who I felt should know better.
- Today I’ve come in with info that I believe clears two players reasonably (jpic and Michelle). I gave Michelle the opportunity to lie (if mafia) or tell the truth. She chose neither, but I feel she could’ve used her role to kill our outed cop or something at an earlier point in any case, and I’ve liked her handling of it. Jpic can only be mafia with someone who did the kill instead of him. Very very unlikely imo.
- I came up with a plan that would actually lock the game in a win AND give us control over Alison while at the same time allowing her to win if she is telling the full truth. Turns out it doesn’t work because mafia can holster (rip), but the intent should be clear.

If anyone cares. Actually they should. And explain around it if they still want to “scum read” me. That I’ve seen three people mention I’m top suspect is abysmal. I’m a pretty likely NK target because of the block if game doesn’t end. I would like to plan who I block with the whole of town, but I can’t because of this new plan. Would still like opinions on who I should block.

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:00 pm inb4 LC gets blocked and Dizzy says "wow there really must be a redirector" :zany-face:

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:57 pm It would actually help me for people to go through any mech or important points for them being town. I’d appreciate it.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:05 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:57 pm It would actually help me for people to go through any mech or important points for them being town. I’d appreciate it.

- I was tracked not killing n4 (i think). This proves my ability is a non-visiting role
- I was role blocked last night, and the kill still went through. The only way I can be mafia is if there is more than one left. I don't think that's the case because of how towny every one else is (at least from my perspective), and I think 7 mafia is a lot, plus two 3ps (assuming alison is indeed 3p).
- I was jailed n2 and the kill went through.
- I claimed being sent a song n2.
- when kyle hinted at who he should shoot, I suggested nanook

that's all i can think of from top of my head.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:05 pm- when kyle hinted at who he should shoot, I suggested nanook

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:05 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:57 pm It would actually help me for people to go through any mech or important points for them being town. I’d appreciate it.

- I was tracked not killing n4 (i think). This proves my ability is a non-visiting role
- I was role blocked last night, and the kill still went through. The only way I can be mafia is if there is more than one left. I don't think that's the case because of how towny every one else is (at least from my perspective), and I think 7 mafia is a lot, plus two 3ps (assuming alison is indeed 3p).
- I was jailed n2 and the kill went through.
- I claimed being sent a song n2.
- when kyle hinted at who he should shoot, I suggested nanook

that's all i can think of from top of my head.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:09 pm dizzy please

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:19 pmmaybe it's hyena