Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia [THE END]

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Vomps' post about civs not knowing things is pretty on point if only a little obvious.

Not sure how I feel about Vomps discussing scumhunting theory.

[Vompatti]

I usually randomize in these games, but this time I think it might be an interesting strategy to at least begin by voting off some of the "bad guys". And since in the beginning of the game only the "bad guys" themselves know who they are, it is likely that anyone who knowingly votes for anyone other than oneself is a "bad guy".

...so you're saying I should just vote for myself? If everyone who is not a bad guy took this advice we would end up with a randomized lynch on day one. Not a good idea.

In a well-balanced game randomization is almost always the best strategy, especially on day one.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Hi Vomps, can you explain what you see in sig that would cause you to vote for him?

No.

[sig]

i've got a very important potential way to catch allllll the mafia, so someone please remind me about this idea that I have at the beginning of day 1 okay? okay

sig, did someone else already remind you of this? If not, I'm reminding you.

Yeah, it fell flat. I suggested day 1 we look at the people who posted about their scary experience a bit closer for two reasons.

1. Mafia tend to read the rules more imo
2. If just one mafia member read the rules they'd post it in BTSC and the teammates would do it.

Nobody else seemed to think it was a good idea, so I'm keeping it in my back pocket until we get more flips and see if I'm right.

Thanks for pointing it out though!

How did you come to believe #1? Are you more likely to read the rules as Mafia?

Well up until this post yeah, now I gotta stop so its not a scum tell.

The idea behind it is that I'm more tactical as scum and wanna look civvie so I read the rules since I care more about looking high speed/sup town.
Now Ik not everyone is like that and some civs read the rules but I've not read the rules as a civ since like my first few games here.

[sig]

Which fun fact I was actually mafia my first game here and read the rules. :rip

[sig]

I'll take everyone's word on it, since it appears people seem to be in agreement that it's NAI and just hope I'm right end game so i can brag. If I'm wrong though we'll pretend this never happened.

[ColinIsCool]

i've got a very important potential way to catch allllll the mafia, so someone please remind me about this idea that I have at the beginning of day 1 okay? okay

sig, did someone else already remind you of this? If not, I'm reminding you.

Yeah, it fell flat. I suggested day 1 we look at the people who posted about their scary experience a bit closer for two reasons.

1. Mafia tend to read the rules more imo
2. If just one mafia member read the rules they'd post it in BTSC and the teammates would do it.

Nobody else seemed to think it was a good idea, so I'm keeping it in my back pocket until we get more flips and see if I'm right.

Thanks for pointing it out though!

How did you come to believe #1? Are you more likely to read the rules as Mafia?

Well up until this post yeah, now I gotta stop so its not a scum tell.

The idea behind it is that I'm more tactical as scum and wanna look civvie so I read the rules since I care more about looking high speed/sup town.
Now Ik not everyone is like that and some civs read the rules but I've not read the rules as a civ since like my first few games here.

Would you describe your behavior so far as high speed/super town?

[juliets]

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Hi Vomps, can you explain what you see in sig that would cause you to vote for him?

No.

I see. So you are not interested in convincing us he is bad?

[Turnip Head]

i've got a very important potential way to catch allllll the mafia, so someone please remind me about this idea that I have at the beginning of day 1 okay? okay

sig, did someone else already remind you of this? If not, I'm reminding you.

Yeah, it fell flat. I suggested day 1 we look at the people who posted about their scary experience a bit closer for two reasons.

1. Mafia tend to read the rules more imo
2. If just one mafia member read the rules they'd post it in BTSC and the teammates would do it.

Nobody else seemed to think it was a good idea, so I'm keeping it in my back pocket until we get more flips and see if I'm right.

Thanks for pointing it out though!

How did you come to believe #1? Are you more likely to read the rules as Mafia?

Some people read more closely than others.

[Marmot]

@juliets do you ever do the thing where you dip the wendy's fries into the wendy's frostie? have you ever tried that

um, no I didn't even know that was a thing! I should have made all my posts about this in off-topic green.

anything pertaining to the topic of wendy's is always considered on topic

I disagree, then again I don't like Wendy's.

[Marmot]

YAY game!

I dunno...I was playing music in my classroom and I was a good two minutes into "Party Up" by DMX before I realized that the song was highly inappropriate for school and then I realized two of my bosses were also doing a pop-in.

I almost pooped myself.

Lets not get into a bitch fight between days 1-3 this game as civs.

But oh man day 4 its onnnnnnnn thunderdome style

What's a bitchfight?

[Lunalee]

I usually randomize in these games, but this time I think it might be an interesting strategy to at least begin by voting off some of the "bad guys". And since in the beginning of the game only the "bad guys" themselves know who they are, it is likely that anyone who knowingly votes for anyone other than oneself is a "bad guy".

...so you're saying I should just vote for myself? If everyone who is not a bad guy took this advice we would end up with a randomized lynch on day one. Not a good idea.

In a well-balanced game randomization is almost always the best strategy, especially on day one.

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Hi Vomps, can you explain what you see in sig that would cause you to vote for him?

No.

Hm, I've not thought of that before, but it does make sense. I don't think anyone can have a good read on day 1. It's all speculation.

[Turnip Head]

@juliets do you ever do the thing where you dip the wendy's fries into the wendy's frostie? have you ever tried that

um, no I didn't even know that was a thing! I should have made all my posts about this in off-topic green.

anything pertaining to the topic of wendy's is always considered on topic

I disagree, then again I don't like Wendy's.

As if I even needed a reason to [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[Vompatti]

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Hi Vomps, can you explain what you see in sig that would cause you to vote for him?

No.

I see. So you are not interested in convincing us he is bad?

I have no hard evidence yet.

[Marmot]

@juliets do you ever do the thing where you dip the wendy's fries into the wendy's frostie? have you ever tried that

um, no I didn't even know that was a thing! I should have made all my posts about this in off-topic green.

anything pertaining to the topic of wendy's is always considered on topic

I disagree, then again I don't like Wendy's.

As if I even needed a reason to [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

I've been spotted.

Tell me Turnip Head, why'd you roll mafia this game?

[sig]

i've got a very important potential way to catch allllll the mafia, so someone please remind me about this idea that I have at the beginning of day 1 okay? okay

sig, did someone else already remind you of this? If not, I'm reminding you.

Yeah, it fell flat. I suggested day 1 we look at the people who posted about their scary experience a bit closer for two reasons.

1. Mafia tend to read the rules more imo
2. If just one mafia member read the rules they'd post it in BTSC and the teammates would do it.

Nobody else seemed to think it was a good idea, so I'm keeping it in my back pocket until we get more flips and see if I'm right.

Thanks for pointing it out though!

How did you come to believe #1? Are you more likely to read the rules as Mafia?

Well up until this post yeah, now I gotta stop so its not a scum tell.

The idea behind it is that I'm more tactical as scum and wanna look civvie so I read the rules since I care more about looking high speed/sup town.
Now Ik not everyone is like that and some civs read the rules but I've not read the rules as a civ since like my first few games here.

Would you describe your behavior so far as high speed/super town?

Nope, I'd say I'm just active atm but not trying to lead town or bang out iso/reads like super town Sig does.

[Turnip Head]

@juliets do you ever do the thing where you dip the wendy's fries into the wendy's frostie? have you ever tried that

um, no I didn't even know that was a thing! I should have made all my posts about this in off-topic green.

anything pertaining to the topic of wendy's is always considered on topic

I disagree, then again I don't like Wendy's.

As if I even needed a reason to [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

I've been spotted.

Tell me Turnip Head, why'd you roll mafia this game?

So we can learn to pick ourselves back up.

[sig]

YAY game!

I dunno...I was playing music in my classroom and I was a good two minutes into "Party Up" by DMX before I realized that the song was highly inappropriate for school and then I realized two of my bosses were also doing a pop-in.

I almost pooped myself.

Lets not get into a bitch fight between days 1-3 this game as civs.

But oh man day 4 its onnnnnnnn thunderdome style

What's a bitchfight?

A fight between bitches. Like a cat fight since last gane dom and i were in qe spent the entire phase arguing until he mislynched me.

[Julinook]

Retuuuurn the slaaaaab. Or suffee my cuuurse.

[Turnip Head]

Retuuuurn the slaaaaab. Or suffee my cuuurse.

Wow this guy sounds desperate

[Fractal]

@nijuukyugou HEY! it's been forever so long in fact I've kinda forgot your meta. Would ya mind telling me your civ and mafia meta when you get the chance and the biggest difference between the two?

@Fractal Welcome! And same question I asked Niju

Thanks. I usually focus on building a towncircle i believe in and try to PoE (Process of Elimination) my way to victory and work together with my townreads. Obviously I try my best to not have any easy to find differences between my town and scum game, but in the past I've been more likely to lose steam in the later stages of a game when I'm scum even if it can happen as town aswell depending on the type of game/irl cirscumstances.

[speedchuck]

Retuuuurn the slaaaaab. Or suffee my cuuurse.

I'm gonna need to know more about this here curse thing. I might not mind a little suffering.

[Fractal]

Thoughts on Sig: I thought his comment early d1 saying "OKAY no more shit posting time to get serious!" struck me as a little awkward considering how the thread looked at the time. And if he actually thought there was something more productive to do than shitposting, why not just go do it instead of announcing "hey guys im gonna go be towny and solve now". Seemed like it might've been for show.

But then i think the way he seemed disappointed about no one picking up on his first-post-strategy felt like he genuinely thought he was onto something good and then felt a bit let down when people didn't believe in it. This would be faked emotion if he was scum and knew all alignments and I don't feel like it was fake. So I think that part is far more towny than the suspicious thing is scummy so Sig is my first townread.

my only tiny suspicion so far is Colin.

Sig has been probably the most vocal player in the thread so far. What do people think of his ideas?

This question i could see as him prodding around and seeing what others stances on sig's theory was before he gave his own so he could adapt his own stance based on what would benefit him. It's really thin though.

[Marmot]

Oh, wait, Marmot is in this game! Here I am thinking I need to carry the torch.

Don't die before Day 4 friend, because I'm going on vacation and will have intermittent availability.

Until then, who wants to join me in a game of Wack-a-mafia?

[Marmot]

Townread me Fractal, please, k thanks.

[Fractal]

Okay can someone who didn't read the rules give me their opinion on this? I feel like Luna and speed may be a wee bit bias. :p

I don't have a problem with the fact it's punishing people who read rules but there is a big chance mafia didn't bother to mention this in the chat. Some mafias don't even fully join BTSC before Day 0 ends. So it's not really concusive.

Also, to add onto this. I'd guess the same people who might not read the rules are probably the same kind of people that might not check into BTSC until later.

[Lunalee]

I'll take everyone's word on it, since it appears people seem to be in agreement that it's NAI and just hope I'm right end game so i can brag. If I'm wrong though we'll pretend this never happened.

Okay, assuming you have something going here sig, the only two people who didn't post a story on day 0 was lapluie and Marmot. And lapluie hasn't even posted in game yet. So you're only town-firming two people by making your assumption.

[Fractal]

Townread me Fractal, please, k thanks.

If you're town I'll get there eventually, if you wanna speed things up give me a spicy read. ^^

[Marmot]

I didn't read all the rules I guess.

[Marmot]

Townread me Fractal, please, k thanks.

If you're town I'll get there eventually, if you wanna speed things up give me a spicy read. ^^

You're scum.

But feel free to post strong townreads of me, it'll be a good point of reference when you nightkill me.

[Turnip Head]

true life I've never even seen this show

[Lunalee]

I'm going to [VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine because I think it would be cool to try a randomized day one lynch, and DDL is the next one down on the poll who needs a vote.

[Fractal]

Townread me Fractal, please, k thanks.

If you're town I'll get there eventually, if you wanna speed things up give me a spicy read. ^^

You're scum.

But feel free to post strong townreads of me, it'll be a good point of reference when you nightkill me. :beer:

Why do you think so?

[Marmot]

I usually randomize in these games, but this time I think it might be an interesting strategy to at least begin by voting off some of the "bad guys". And since in the beginning of the game only the "bad guys" themselves know who they are, it is likely that anyone who knowingly votes for anyone other than oneself is a "bad guy".

It is interesting that you've chosen to apply this strategy.

This post receives a suspect score of ★★★½.

[Marmot]

Townread me Fractal, please, k thanks.

If you're town I'll get there eventually, if you wanna speed things up give me a spicy read. ^^

You're scum.

But feel free to post strong townreads of me, it'll be a good point of reference when you nightkill me.

Why do you think so?

I don't think so. I've no reason to scumread you, and the above post was made in jest.

[ColinIsCool]

Thoughts on Sig: I thought his comment early d1 saying "OKAY no more shit posting time to get serious!" struck me as a little awkward considering how the thread looked at the time. And if he actually thought there was something more productive to do than shitposting, why not just go do it instead of announcing "hey guys im gonna go be towny and solve now". Seemed like it might've been for show.

But then i think the way he seemed disappointed about no one picking up on his first-post-strategy felt like he genuinely thought he was onto something good and then felt a bit let down when people didn't believe in it. This would be faked emotion if he was scum and knew all alignments and I don't feel like it was fake. So I think that part is far more towny than the suspicious thing is scummy so Sig is my first townread.

my only tiny suspicion so far is Colin.

Sig has been probably the most vocal player in the thread so far. What do people think of his ideas?

This question i could see as him prodding around and seeing what others stances on sig's theory was before he gave his own so he could adapt his own stance based on what would benefit him. It's really thin though.

Very incisive. I did want to see what other people thought of sig’s thing but mostly because I couldn’t decide whether it made him look scummy or not for the exact reasons you outline. Good stuff.

[ColinIsCool]

I'm going to [VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine because I think it would be cool to try a randomized day one lynch, and DDL is the next one down on the poll who needs a vote.

“Cool?”

[Fractal]

I don't approve random voting d1 at all. Where people push and for what reasons are one of the top things we can use the coming days. We'll have less info day 2, and less intresting conversations, which will lead to less info d3 etc etc.

Let's just make reads the best we can imo.

I see the points of it, but i don't think the info-loss coming days is worth the slight increase of chance to lynch scum today but randomizing.

[Fractal]

Spoiler: show

I don't approve random voting d1 at all. Where people push and for what reasons are one of the top things we can use the coming days. We'll have less info day 2, and less intresting conversations, which will lead to less info d3 etc etc.

Let's just make reads the best we can imo.

I see the points of it, but i don't think the info-loss coming days is worth the slight increase of chance to lynch scum today but randomizing.

by randomizing*

[Fractal]

Thoughts on Sig: I thought his comment early d1 saying "OKAY no more shit posting time to get serious!" struck me as a little awkward considering how the thread looked at the time. And if he actually thought there was something more productive to do than shitposting, why not just go do it instead of announcing "hey guys im gonna go be towny and solve now". Seemed like it might've been for show.

But then i think the way he seemed disappointed about no one picking up on his first-post-strategy felt like he genuinely thought he was onto something good and then felt a bit let down when people didn't believe in it. This would be faked emotion if he was scum and knew all alignments and I don't feel like it was fake. So I think that part is far more towny than the suspicious thing is scummy so Sig is my first townread.

my only tiny suspicion so far is Colin.

Sig has been probably the most vocal player in the thread so far. What do people think of his ideas?

This question i could see as him prodding around and seeing what others stances on sig's theory was before he gave his own so he could adapt his own stance based on what would benefit him. It's really thin though.

Very incisive. I did want to see what other people thought of sig’s thing but mostly because I couldn’t decide whether it made him look scummy or not for the exact reasons you outline. Good stuff.

Can you go into a bit which kinds of answer from people would make you think Sig's thing was scummy and which answers would make you think it was not?

[nutella]

Hi Fractal! Remind me what mafia site(s) you hail from? Nice to meet you

[Fractal]

Hi Fractal! Remind me what mafia site(s) you hail from? Nice to meet you :D

MU, but have mainly played IRL. And hi, same to you ^^

[speedchuck]

I don't approve random voting d1 at all. Where people push and for what reasons are one of the top things we can use the coming days. We'll have less info day 2, and less intresting conversations, which will lead to less info d3 etc etc.

Let's just make reads the best we can imo.

I see the points of it, but i don't think the info-loss coming days is worth the slight increase of chance to lynch scum today but randomizing.

I like this guy.

[Fractal]

I don't approve random voting d1 at all. Where people push and for what reasons are one of the top things we can use the coming days. We'll have less info day 2, and less intresting conversations, which will lead to less info d3 etc etc.

Let's just make reads the best we can imo.

I see the points of it, but i don't think the info-loss coming days is worth the slight increase of chance to lynch scum today but randomizing.

I like this guy.

I couldn't find a :blush: smiley.

[Fractal]

woah, it appeared anyway

[nutella]

Let's lynch speedchuck who's with me

[ColinIsCool]

Thoughts on Sig: I thought his comment early d1 saying "OKAY no more shit posting time to get serious!" struck me as a little awkward considering how the thread looked at the time. And if he actually thought there was something more productive to do than shitposting, why not just go do it instead of announcing "hey guys im gonna go be towny and solve now". Seemed like it might've been for show.

But then i think the way he seemed disappointed about no one picking up on his first-post-strategy felt like he genuinely thought he was onto something good and then felt a bit let down when people didn't believe in it. This would be faked emotion if he was scum and knew all alignments and I don't feel like it was fake. So I think that part is far more towny than the suspicious thing is scummy so Sig is my first townread.

my only tiny suspicion so far is Colin.

Sig has been probably the most vocal player in the thread so far. What do people think of his ideas?

This question i could see as him prodding around and seeing what others stances on sig's theory was before he gave his own so he could adapt his own stance based on what would benefit him. It's really thin though.

Very incisive. I did want to see what other people thought of sig’s thing but mostly because I couldn’t decide whether it made him look scummy or not for the exact reasons you outline. Good stuff.

Can you go into a bit which kinds of answer from people would make you think Sig's thing was scummy and which answers would make you think it was not?

Well, I felt that sig’s idea was not that good and it could have been an attempt at making a “supertown” move. Your assessment of him in the 2nd graf there persuaded me though. I suppose I wanted to see if my suspicions held up; as in, if others agreed or disagreed with good logic.

[nutella]

Jk I'm not voting anyone yet

[Marmot]

Let's lynch speedchuck who's with me

Me!

[nutella]

Let's lynch speedchuck who's with me

Me!

Knew I could count on you buddy

Let's just wait and see if I actually want to though. Kind of a whimsical impulse but who knows

[Marmot]

Let's lynch speedchuck who's with me

Me!

Knew I could count on you buddy

Let's just wait and see if I actually want to though. Kind of a whimsical impulse but who knows

You can't back down now nutella, you're our fearless leader!