The Syndicate

It's been over 40 minutes and I don't see a flip

Sorsha wrote:

Matt wrote:Laaaaaaaame

Unless Sorsha flips bad

Good luck Matt, you can pull this off still

Oh man

If Sorsha flips good, I'm inclined to vote Epi tomorrow for sucking worse then I do this game.

Matt wrote:It's been over 40 minutes and I don't see a flip

Cake before Mafia apparently.

Matt wrote:If Sorsha flips good, I'm inclined to vote Epi tomorrow for sucking worse then I do this game.

I don't see how I suck if Sorsha is good. I tried to lynch Long Con.

I won't be having a drink right now because I'm in the library. In my opinion, libraries are probably the greatest place to have a drink though.

Epignosis wrote:

Matt wrote:If Sorsha flips good, I'm inclined to vote Epi tomorrow for sucking worse then I do this game.

I don't see how I suck if Sorsha is good. I tried to lynch Long Con.

Don't worry, tomorrow we'll get LC.

I'll likely not see tomorrow but it was fun while it lasted.

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I prefer a Long Con lynch to a Sorsha lynch myself, based on my reading. I will be around just before the deadline (and in the hour that comes before it).

Would you vote LC under the current insane circumstances?

By "insane circumstances," do you mean the insane lack of any consensus regarding the votes, or the insane LC?

Yes

Then yes. The disingenuous nature to Long Con's Day 1 vote is, for me, the strongest point against him, among several. I don't worry too much about posting restrictions when they come from civilians. In one of llama's full games, I was cursed (I think MM did it to me) and I got lynched. I was bad. People could have had mercy on me and let me carry on another day, but they didn't.

Yes that was me. I remember making a case you were bad one day, then cursing you that night so you couldn't defend against it.

I have to go soon. I wanted to know.

She's getting to it. Lazy woman. She needs to get back in the kitche-

Oh never mind.

She needs to come out of the kitchen.

Matt wrote:Since it's not especially fair to ask Epi these kinds of questions...

People voting Epig...

Have you thought about

a) Wilgy, the btsc checker, named him as his top suspect shortly before he died...

and

b) Epig has been taken off the poll twice by players who share btsc.

Derp.

Quote for truth.

Matt wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Matt wrote:Long Con, the other day you said you could see Illy as bad, you should vote her!

Sorsha vote Illy to save yourself!

So you think Long Con and Sorsha are both civilians?

No, tbqh, I think everyone's guilty until proven innocent.

But since Ika added a vote to Illy, I'm tryin' to get a train started.

My list of who I think could possibly be bad...

ILLY

Then ika (if Ika's bad then Lorab), if Illy's bad then Black Rock.

And

You. I keep flip flopping on you. But at least I'm not lying about it, amiright?

Does this include you?

Matt wrote:I never voted Sorsha cuz Epi did btw.

EPI MOVE YOUR VOTE TO ILLY GAAAAAAAAAAAAH

I don't think anybody accused you of voting for Sorsha because Epi did.

Wait, Matt never voted for Sorsha.

Elohcin wrote:

Sorsha has been lynched. She was Sarah O'Brien.
It is now Night 6. You have 23 hours to send in your Night Actions.

Uhhhhh

Good job everyone!

*runs away*

#illysstillbadtho

No picture?

Not that I am complaining.

Checks the front page.

Yay mafia!

Get back here Matt. Weren't you the one trying to get Illy lynched?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Checks the front page.

Yay mafia!

Get back here Matt. Weren't you the one trying to get Illy lynched?

Yeah and then Illy went and bussed her teamie for civ cred.

Dammit!

First thought is Long Con and somebody who tried to hedge and bus.

What does everyone think of Lorab voting for a presumed curse person now that we know the other top candidate was a mafia?

K, just by Sorsha's ISO, I'd be down with an ika or LC lynch tomorrow. Cool beans.

Matt wrote:What does everyone think of Lorab voting for a presumed curse person now that we know the other top candidate was a mafia?

What do you think about responding to my answers to your posts about me earlier?

Also, that Sorsha was bad does not mean that LC was not also bad.

Also, at the time I voted, another vote on Sorsha wouldn't have made a difference. I was personally more suspish of LC, so I voted that way.

Epignosis wrote:No picture?

Not that I am complaining.

Day 6


Black Rock
0
No votes

Dom
0
No votes

Epignosis
1
thellama73 (2)
6%

Ika
0
No votes

Illyria
4
Matt (3), ika (14), Long Con (16), Sorsha (17)
22%

Long Con
2
Dom (10), LoRab (15)
11%

Lorab
0
No votes

Matt
0
No votes

Metalmarsh89
0
No votes

Scotty
0
No votes

Sorsha
5
Black Rock (9), Metalmarsh89 (11), Scotty (12), Illyria (13), Epignosis (18)
28%

thellama73
0
No votes

That is awesome and horrid at the same time.

Sorsha wrote:

I think I have a clue as to what that refers to.

Eyyyy good goin guys! Finally nabbed one.

Gonna look at LC tomorrow, yes sirreee

Elohcin wrote:

Sorsha has been lynched. She was Sarah O'Brien.
It is now Night 6. You have 23 hours to send in your Night Actions.

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Motherfucking FISTPUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!

Awesome. That is awesome.

Matt wrote:K, just by Sorsha's ISO, I'd be down with an ika or LC lynch tomorrow. Cool beans.

care to explain mine yet?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Checks the front page.

Yay mafia!

Get back here Matt. Weren't you the one trying to get Illy lynched?

Yes. Yes he was.

Matt wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Checks the front page.

Yay mafia!

Get back here Matt. Weren't you the one trying to get Illy lynched?

Yeah and then Illy went and bussed her teamie for civ cred.

Dammit!

No. No she didn't. I voted for who I thought was Mafia. You, on the other hand, have two people who are telling you that I am a civvie and you still won't buy it. You are the one who voted for me, then tried to get a lynch train happening on me.

A lynch train that LC voted for, LC who you think is evil, at least for the next 14 seconds.

BTW, I do hope you enjoy crow. I will be serving you a heaping portion of it and the end of the game.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Checks the front page.

Yay mafia!

Get back here Matt. Weren't you the one trying to get Illy lynched?

That was me as well.



*phew* I'm glad she did flip bad. I went after it with only a few tiny things that bugged me. I was going to go after LC all the way until last night when she almost dared me to vote her and used that crappy "lazy" and "I never am like this when bad" excuse.

About to go to my overnight but I happened to notice something intresting......

More tommorw

ika wrote:Elaborate dom

nah

Epignosis wrote:

Matt wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Matt wrote:Who wants to CFD Lorab? Anyone? Bueller?

It's bad that you don't stick to your convictions.

It's even worse when you do.

So you think it's in civ character for Lorab to vote for a cursed person?

If Lorab is the one phoning in the curses, then I don't see why she would be in the mood to lecture.

I doubt she is.

Nice call with Sorsha guys.

scums are in longcon/llama/matt/dom

i think the former 2 then the later being the last

ika wrote:scums are in longcon/llama/matt/dom

i think the former 2 then the later being the last

I would rate them Long Con > Matt > thellama73 > Dom.

I agree on the first two, but why llama and Dom?

ika wrote:scums are in longcon/llama/matt/dom

i think the former 2 then the later being the last

I think you are probably mostly wrong.

Hey guys, that was a harrowing lynch, I'm glad we finally got one in Sorsha. Oh yeah, also how's about you don't lynch me because I'm not a freakin' baddie?!

I don't know what inspired people to hop on the classic old "LC is a baddie" train, but I assure you that you don't want to lynch me. I don't really know what else to say, is there a case against me, or did someone just point their finger and everyone ran where they were pointing?

Long Con wrote:Hey guys, that was a harrowing lynch, I'm glad we finally got one in Sorsha. Oh yeah, also how's about you don't lynch me because I'm not a freakin' baddie?!

I don't know what inspired people to hop on the classic old "LC is a baddie" train, but I assure you that you don't want to lynch me. I don't really know what else to say, is there a case against me, or did someone just point their finger and everyone ran where they were pointing?

Eyyyyyy lmao your wife thinks you're bad.
Case and point.

Long Con wrote:Hey guys, that was a harrowing lynch, I'm glad we finally got one in Sorsha. Oh yeah, also how's about you don't lynch me because I'm not a freakin' baddie?!

I don't know what inspired people to hop on the classic old "LC is a baddie" train, but I assure you that you don't want to lynch me. I don't really know what else to say, is there a case against me, or did someone just point their finger and everyone ran where they were pointing?

I'm always willing to lynch Long Con because Monopoly and Flash and the list goes on.

ika wrote:scums are in longcon/llama/matt/dom

i think the former 2 then the later being the last

Unless there's something you know that the rest of us don't about the baddies recruiting, then there are only 2 baddies left.

I'm not scum

As for eating crow, Illy, sure let's lynch you tomorrow and see if I do. I still believe, in general, that lynching a pretty much inactive over a proven liar is a bad idea, but it happened to work out this time.

Dom's mentions of Sorsha:

He says he might vote her tomorrow (which he cannot do now), and questions Nerolunar about mentioning Sorsha.

Nothing of substance there.

++++

ika's mentions of Sorsha:

ika wrote:ika
Silverwolf
Illyria
Scotty
Sorsha
Nerolunar

DrWilgy
thellama73

Long Con
Lorab
Matt
birdwithteeth11
Black Rock
Bubbles
DFaraday
Epignosis
Polo
sig

Spacedaisy
Metalmarsh89
Dom

the colors should be explitory, i left out reasons intentionally and that the order does nto matter, i gave it no "more scum/town then the other" jsut colro, so if someone would like to knwo more let me know im gonna start sorting nulls

First mention is green, and he says it's for no reason.

Apparently ika temporarily voted Sorsha Day 3, also for no reason.

++++

Scotty:

Scotty wrote:Sorsha: she's taken a pretty aggressive stance this game. Not sure what that says about her alignment. Null read

He also asks ika why he voted Sorsha without announcing it.

Scotty wrote:Also I think the case you just made about Sorsha makes her look bad, not good, like you concluded.

Although he didn't say why, he disagreed with my assessment of Sorsha.

He says he would consider changing his vote (from me) to Sorsha, and then asks Dom if Dom would. Scotty votes Sorsha when he could have easily kept his vote on me and let Long Con and Sorsha pile on there.

I like this.

++++

MM:

First mention isn't until Day 3, and just says Sorsha has entertained a spacedaisy vote.

When Black Rock directly asks him about her, he says:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:She has been quiet. I thought she was quiet in Spirited Away, but she's been event quieter and less participatory here. Of her 40 posts, almost half of them came on Day 1. But the same could be said for a few people.

This is more of a comment on her activity rather than alignment.

Twelve minutes later, he offers this and a vote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Here it was.

Sorsha wrote:Yeah. I'm voting Nero too. I could also vote ika, I'd like him to explain what "the point" actually was when he said "that's not the point"here I kinda want to vote LC too over the "slip" too. Not totally sure if it was one but seems like strange wording otherwise.

This was Sorsha's only post on Day 5, and it was to pop in and put a vote on Nero. Scotty posted his vote for Nero just before, and that was his only post of the day until about an hour before the deadline.

The timing of these two things is probably coincidental. But looking at Sorsha's vote, she did vote for Nerolunar without a reason, while offering reasons to vote for ika and Long Con and also stating interest. This doesn't make much sense.

This is a fairly nuanced post, and the peripheral mentioning of Scotty here gives me the impression that these are MetalMarsh89's natural thoughts.

++++

thellama73 has no mentions of Sorsha.

++++

Illyria:

First mention says "Gut leaning bad but undecided." She says she's happy to vote Long Con or Sorsha. She calls Sorsha, Dom, and LC Mafia when she voted Sorsha. Her reaction to Sorsha's lynch is composed and thoughtful. She says, and I quote, "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Motherfucking FISTPUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!"

++++

Lorab has one very recent mention:

LoRab wrote:

Matt wrote:What does everyone think of Lorab voting for a presumed curse person now that we know the other top candidate was a mafia?

What do you think about responding to my answers to your posts about me earlier?

Also, that Sorsha was bad does not mean that LC was not also bad.

Also, at the time I voted, another vote on Sorsha wouldn't have made a difference. I was personally more suspish of LC, so I voted that way.

I agree with her, since her not voting Sorsha doesn't matter if Long Con is bad.

++++

Black Rock's first mention comes with a vote on Day 3:

Black Rock wrote:I voted Sorsha, because why not? I suspect her just as much as I suspect the rest of you. I don't like the Daisy lynch. I think she's civ. She's sounding like one.

I'm honestly not convinced by any of the cases so Sorsha? Sure. Her name is right beside Daisy's, they're both ladies, I have played with them both for a long time. Almost the same. Daisy has a lot better content and sounds like she's trying to help. I haven't seen any of that from Sorsha so there is where my preference is.

I might switch my vote to something better. I'm just not going to vote for Daisy.

Day 6, Black Rock called Sorsha and Long Con teammates, but suggests lynching Sorsha first. And does.

Her bottom three is notably the same as Illyria's:

Black Rock wrote:Dom
Long Con
Sorsha

She entreats Matt to vote Sorsha, and comments on how LC and Sorsha both voted Illyria.

All good stuff.

++++

Long Con only really talks about Sorsha in the context of other games (AWR, Spirited Away). There's nothing significant there.

++++

In Matt's first mention, he names Illyria, Sorsha, and Lorab as bad, but can't put his finger on why. He only elaborates on Illyria.

Matt wrote:If the poll stays like this, I would rather vote Sorsha then Long Con, but two peeps I don't necessarily trust have their votes on Sorsha :/

Matt wrote:Long Con, the other day you said you could see Illy as bad, you should vote her!

Sorsha vote Illy to save yourself!

Matt wrote:LC is pulling my strings probably, but he could've saved himself by voting Sorsha and voted Illy instead, sooooooo

Sorsha

Matt wrote:I never voted Sorsha cuz Epi did btw.

EPI MOVE YOUR VOTE TO ILLY GAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Matt wrote:Laaaaaaaame

Unless Sorsha flips bad

Matt wrote:If Sorsha flips good, I'm inclined to vote Epi tomorrow for sucking worse then I do this game.

Hrm.

Scotty wrote:

Long Con wrote:Hey guys, that was a harrowing lynch, I'm glad we finally got one in Sorsha. Oh yeah, also how's about you don't lynch me because I'm not a freakin' baddie?!

I don't know what inspired people to hop on the classic old "LC is a baddie" train, but I assure you that you don't want to lynch me. I don't really know what else to say, is there a case against me, or did someone just point their finger and everyone ran where they were pointing?

Eyyyyyy lmao your wife thinks you're bad.
Case and point.

Well, I've been lynched for much less, but that doesn't change the fact that she's wrong... or the fact that there's no real case for me to even rebut.

Sorsha's interactions and mentions of the living:

First up is a (now) curious interaction with ika about how he determines who is bad:

Sorsha wrote:

ika wrote:

Dom wrote:

ika wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

ika wrote:i have 2 town reads and 2 scum reads.......

Who already?

im not willing to reveal it yet but one of them should be obvious

Fixed this for you.

So... why so coy?

Why should i give my reads for anyone to copy? moreso do you ahve any reads?

What methods do you use for baddie hunting? There must be a big play style difference between here and the other site(s) you play at if you don't give reads on players.

In response to ika's indignant reply to Dom, Sorsha asks him about methodology.

Sorsha wrote:

ika wrote:

Sorsha wrote: What methods do you use for baddie hunting? There must be a big play style difference between here and the other site(s) you play at if you don't give reads on players.

I must of missed this, i saw silver answer so i will answer myself.

i do give reads, i just dont give them out right away. depeding on the type of game will depend on what i do. most time i will try to towhunt and POE the rest out. other times i jsut like zoning in on people and see if they break.

this game im going to try to role hunt everyone :P

Alright, I gotcha.

Sorsha gets ika.

Sorsha wrote:

ika wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

ika wrote:Silver, do you have any reads?

No, not yet.

ok. i know you have always said your a slow start so i can accpet it for now............. but by mid day i would hope you have some otherwise im gonan be going at you

Silverwolf wrote:I will say if Epi acts anti-town regardless of alignment, he's always gonna be null to me and I'd lynch just to make sure so I hope that changes.

^that pretty much, doesn't matter how much he has played or how long. To me, when someone nerfs themselves to improve scum games by downplaying town games, they are not playing proper. if anything one should try to make their scum game more like their town game if it is better and vice versa.

from what i hear and see epi has a better town game when he tries, so he should improve his scum game to mirror that and not jsut "dumb down" his town game

to me it its not even goign to generate a read its just going to be policy lynch material

Oh no.... did you say p-p-p-policy l-lynch? *shudders at the not so long ago memory* *backs away from ika*

Sorsha makes a joke about policy lynches.

Sorsha wrote:

ika wrote:

Sorsha wrote: Oh no.... did you say p-p-p-policy l-lynch? *shudders at the not so long ago memory* *backs away from ika*

would you like to share?

MacDougall declared Matt his policy lynch at one time in a game here a few months back and it didn't go over well. Mac was from another forum where I guess that kind of thing was more "the norm," we (Syndicaters and players from the Syndicates predecessors RM, LP and TP) hadn't been exposed to that tactic before then. I'm in now way trying to discourage you from it. I just saw the words "policy lynch" and remember the shit storm that ensued before.

The interaction with ika continues.

Sorsha wrote:

ika wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

ika wrote:

Sorsha wrote: Oh no.... did you say p-p-p-policy l-lynch? *shudders at the not so long ago memory* *backs away from ika*

would you like to share?

MacDougall declared Matt his policy lynch at one time in a game here a few months back and it didn't go over well. Mac was from another forum where I guess that kind of thing was more "the norm," we (Syndicaters and players from the Syndicates predecessors RM, LP and TP) hadn't been exposed to that tactic before then. I'm in now way trying to discourage you from it. I just saw the words "policy lynch" and remember the shit storm that ensued before.

Could you link me that? Im more then ahppy to take the heat

He actually did it in two games simultaneously

DUNE: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 73#p189673
And A World Reborn: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 70#p189670

Those are where Mac makes his declarations. I'm not sure how much further it was until it started getting intense but you can read for yourself. Mac was never lynched for it, just had to put up with people not liking his stance on the matter.

And continues.

Sorsha wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:BTW-my vote on metalmarsh is because he's not doing anything productive at all and appears to be avoiding the thread.

He's one of the higher posters in the thread so far... How is that avoiding the thread?

How many games have you played with him before this one?

Sorsha defends MetalMarsh89 against Silverwolf by citing his activity.

Sorsha wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I'm thinking about either voting for the rotting corpse of Wilgy or for DFaraday.

DFaraday wrote:I'm not liking so many votes on Dom already. Especially since I don't think he's done anything shady.

As for Ika's comments re: Epi, I don't agree with it. And I think the practice of policy voting people for not playing a distinctly town game, regardless of whether that person is actually bad, is itself not a town strategy.

This post seems like filler to me, and Wilgy so far has been gazonks with his whiffle posting, which is making me think he might be ignatz trillo.

Am I doing a good job of keeping up with the new slang?

How is DFs post filler when he is giving opinions on actual game events? What is your definition of filler? I usually think of filler as non-game related comments or commenting but not giving an opinion.

Sorsha asks thellama73 about filler.

Sorsha wrote:

Scotty wrote:I think that It is too early to tell for Dom and DFaraday. I lean scum on Dom, but having 4 people outright vote him is either a bullseye by town or a huge mistake.

im curious about bwt. My gut tells me he could be bad (yes I see that you are voting him) but I need a reminder: was he bad in "A World Reborn"? He was NK'd n1 I remember, and he is acting differently this game I feel.

bwt was bad in A World Reborn but he was not killed night one. Timmer was killed night one and then later replaced bwt

Sorsha answers Scotty.

Sorsha wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Who are you again?

Who am I.. where did I come from... why am I here....

ika wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:BTW-my vote on metalmarsh is because he's not doing anything productive at all and appears to be avoiding the thread.

He's one of the higher posters in the thread so far... How is that avoiding the thread?

How many games have you played with him before this one?

I think at the time when she said that he was posting elsewhere.

That is at least what i saw when she posted that

i mena i could pull timestamps if i wanted to be tryhard

No need to do that, but thanks.

Sorsha replies to my joke and says ika doesn't have to pull timestamps.

thellama73 wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I guess we can rule out Ika as being mafia, then, can't we?

Um... why?

Because I believe Ika to be incapable of separating his personal relationships from the game, and I do not believe he would consent to killing Silver night one, if he were part of the mafia team.

Again, we know thellama73's view to be incorrect. Nevertheless, Sorsha expressed concern that ika was cleared.

Sorsha wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I'm taking the advice of a party that is not a killer. That is a reasonable thing to do.

You're taking Edith's advice for not suspecting Black Rock but you have reasons other than Edith for suspecting Long Con?

Have you caught up yet?

Apparently.... not....?

However, Sorsha questions my suspicion of Long Con.

Sorsha wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I guess we can rule out Ika as being mafia, then, can't we?

Um... why?

Because I believe Ika to be incapable of separating his personal relationships from the game, and I do not believe he would consent to killing Silver night one, if he were part of the mafia team.

ika- Are you incapable of separating your personal relationships from the game?

I don't necessarily suspect ika myself but I'm not just writing it off, if ika is bad and Silver isn't why wouldn't he get rid of her asap before she catches on?

Sorsha asks ika a direct question and says she doesn't suspect him. I don't see where ika ever responded directly to this, but to be fair, he was silenced Day 2.

Sorsha wrote:Thanks Daisy, I hope he doesn't get demoralized here then

Sorsha hopes ike doesn't get demoralized.

I want to pause here. Let's not let this hope escape scrutiny.

If ika was on her team, Sorsha would know ika's state of mind, and this statement (as well as her questions) becomes pretense.

If ika was not on her team, Sorsha would feel genuinely bad for potentially demoralizing someone she doesn't know very well.

Sorsha wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I would like to know how serious Black Rock was about lynching Long Con Day 1, and how interested she is about doing so now, if at all.

I want to know this too. Where is black rock?

Sorsha wants to know about Black Rock's commitment toward lynching Long Con. In context, this was about me pursuing Black Rock, so in hindsight, I'm wondering if Sorsha was asking because she was more concerned about Black Rock pursuing Long Con.

Sorsha wrote:I don't think Matt or DF look bad enough to vote for. Not feeling anything too horrible about anyone else either so I'm voting for bubbles because this:

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

is what we can expect from her the entire game. Always a low poster and lurky.

Sorsha doesn't think Matt looks bad enough to vote.

Sorsha wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I don't think Matt or DF look bad enough to vote for. Not feeling anything too horrible about anyone else either so I'm voting for bubbles because this:

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

is what we can expect from her the entire game. Always a low poster and lurky.

We could team up and vote for Daisy if you want.

Why daisy? She contributes....

Sorsha asks thellama73 about spacedaisy.

Sorsha wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I don't think Matt or DF look bad enough to vote for. Not feeling anything too horrible about anyone else either so I'm voting for bubbles because this:

Bubbles wrote:im here! i voted dfaraday cause i'm following sig's lead
not because i have any affiliation with sig
but he's the last person to vote and there is no way i can catch up right now, at work
i hope i am not wrong

is what we can expect from her the entire game. Always a low poster and lurky.

Not that I disagree with you about Bubbles, but this strikes me as a little bit "low-hanging fruit".

I guess I'm just getting tired of this same crap all the time. Later on in the game it's important to have people who show up and contribute to conversations, I can't think of a time bubbles has ever done that. I don't care what kind of suspicion this draws to me either. Maybe we'll get lucky and she is bad. That's how she flipped in Arkham.

Long Con doesn't disagree about Bubbles, but gives Sorsha the eye about low-hanging fruit. Sorsha feigns annoyance.

Sorsha wrote:RIP Bubble-bea.

If I had known bea was going to replace in I would have given her a shot and not voted there. I'm kinda surprised that so many players followed my vote for bubbles... I know a couple of them (epi & llama) are players I know have voiced frustrations about no show/extremely low posters so I'm not really surprised at those two. I'll have to look at the other reasons though.

Sorsha names thellama73 and me as people whose votes don't surprise her. The looking into other reasons never happens, and spacedaisy and Polo are both Night killed. thellama73 and I are still alive.

Sorsha wrote:I have no idea what the case on lorab is... I don't remember her having many votes this morning when I was around.

I dunno... This is just a gut thing but I'm voting for LC.

Sorsha doesn't bother to look into Lorab despite her getting votes, and just plants one on Long Con due to "gut."

Sorsha wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sorsha wrote:You guys all posted a lot while I was sleeping.

Where was your gut when I wanted to lynch Long Con?

Probably sleeping then too.

Sorsha wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

Polo wrote:

Dom wrote:I just saw the host post.... wtf happened?

Tom Branson
The former Crawley chauffeur, Branson is now their son-in-law. Perched uneasily between upstairs and down, his placement in Downton is awkward for all involved.
Likes: Sybil; revolution
Dislikes: The monarchy
Tom goes against the grain and hopes for a revolution. He has one lynch switch.

Oh yeah... I misread the doctors role power earlier. I thought he was the switcher.

Or did you role check DrWilgy and slip?

Everyone knows DrWilgy is most definitely not a doctor.

Ha ha.

Sorsha wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

sig wrote:Can someone weight in on Sorsha's scum meta? I recall her being less active as mafia in EST and another game I played with her I think? However, I can't remember how active she usually is.

I'm just busy and the other game I am in is in the final stage or two so it's taking most of my Mafia time atm

As for my Bubbles vote and lynch result there. I really don't care that she was a civ, she would not have been a help to us and would likely have been a mislynch later in the game anyway. So meh I'd do it again. If that makes me suspicious I don't care.

I don't really know who I'm even suspicious of this game, I'll devote more time here when the other game is over. Sorry.

But Bubbles was replaced.

After I voted. I was gone by then and not back in the thread until the lynch was over.

Sorsha says this by way of explanation.

Sorsha wrote:I'm not LCs teammate, I'm just lazy and not finding anything very suspicious to comment on when I am around.

BR suspecting LC is good enough for me, I did have some suspicion of him earlier in the game, plus there was the "slip" that sig pointed out also *votes LC*

Sorsha votes Long Con again. Of note is that at no point in between her first vote and her second did she find reasons why people should be lynching Long Con. "Gut" is vague and undefined, and only in the most extreme exceptions, when someone saying "gut" is screaming at the top of her lungs will people follow her. There's no effort to get Long Con lynched, and she votes there on the back of Black Rock's word.

This is important, because Sorsha had voted LC before, and put her vote on him then, but when the pressure came, Sorsha jumped ship and voted with her suspect against Illyria.

Sorsha wrote:Well if you've made up your mind that I'm bad you aren't going to like anything I have to say about it, you call it an excuse but it's the truth. This is so far off from how I play when I'm bad but whatever, you think I'm bad but you aren't even voting for me?

To Black Rock, Sorsha said this is "so far off from how I play when I'm bad," and funnily enough, I believe her about that. I think Sorsha was invested in Spirited Away and couldn't quite make the same investment here. It happens.

I'm posting this not to say that, but rather to point out that Sorsha "ponders" Black Rock voting for Long Con instead of her. I interpret this as Sorsha trying to draw the lynch away from a more powerful teammate. At this stage, a role check is less valuable than a block and a blackmail.

Sorsha wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Well if you've made up your mind that I'm bad you aren't going to like anything I have to say about it, you call it an excuse but it's the truth. This is so far off from how I play when I'm bad but whatever, you think I'm bad but you aren't even voting for me?

The lady has one vote. She can't have more than one suspicion when there's three mafia?

She's welcome to have as many suspicions as her heart desires, but when choosing between two and one can't talk it seems strange to choose that one. But she has since changed to me so meh

My interpretation strengthens.

Sorsha wrote:I have a few players that I have ruled out as being bad, other than them I could vote for any of them.

The main selling point for me with LC is that slip that sig pointed out and now sig is dead.

This is in response to MetalMarsh89 asking if she would be willing to vote anyone else besides LC.

Sorsha wrote:

Matt wrote:Laaaaaaaame

Unless Sorsha flips bad

Good luck Matt, you can pull this off still

Some last minute pot-stirring.

Sorsha wrote:MM?

And in her penultimate living post, Sorsha tells us the name of her teammate.

My recommendation is to work out who the third member is. I think Long Con is a lock for Day 7. He tipped his hand by voting Illyria and not Sorsha. Don't assume the third member tried to save Sorsha, and don't assume the third member tried to throw her under the bus. Either scenario is possible, and there are three outliers to consider.

Do you believe MM to be the third teammate?