nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:08 pm
we could just be boring and #d1hk
I wouldn’t be opposed
To explain myself more, me and HK are decent internet friends, have played a lot together, and specifically play super well with and off of each other when we both rand the same alignment and as town can find each other as such. We tend to both acknowledge each other and at least FMPOV pay attention to what the other is doing in the game because if we’re both town it benefits us both to find each other because we make a formidable force as a team
In the past little while, when we end up in a W!HK / V!Iawy rand, HK has tended to alternatingly take one of two approaches:
1) focus on my posts but take subtle digs at my reads and undermine my credibility by being critical of my thoughts in a way that discredits my reliability as a narrator or a reads-maker
2) Ignore my posts entirely to avoid drawing my gaze toward the scum meta tells in his interaction posts
We are currently in a 2) world (where “HK is town and we’re interacting just fine” is either 0) or 3), take your pick), so I do think [on meta grounds] that HK is mafia here
Ok I’m actually not that keen on an iawy vote, this post town pings.
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:31 pm
nutella is v
sabi is v
sabi is pushing a pro wolf agenda
creature isn't obv town
nutella's reads r good
Where is the pro wolf agenda???
Where is it because I don't see it
this is why ur town, but it's also the same reasoning for why ur pushing pro wolf agenda lol
Fuck off.
We can bring up your. Pro wolf agenda in cartomacy
we can also bring up the fact once town stopped ignoring me i had a 3/5 solve and you outed yourself
Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:19 pm
by MacDougall
townreading Golden and Iawy for haughty overwrought content is like scumreading TSP for doing nothing but shitposting. Only someone experiencing deep generational poverty would.
Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:19 pm
by robyn
kate/golden/sabi/creature/marmot/rondo/party crashers/michelle/lily/urist town
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:02 am
Players
112 dunno
Alison town
Cape90 town
Creature wolf
Dennis wolf
DrWilgy town
Dyslexicon town
EnderWiggin wolf
falcon45ca town
Golden wolf
Guillotine town
hollowkatt town
ilario dunno
inawordyes wolf
Kate dunno
Le petit poussin dunno
Lilypetal town
lucy town
MacDougall wolf
Marmot town
master radishes town
Michelle town
Neon town
nutella town
Party Crasher dunno
Porscha dunno
pyxxy dunno
RondoDimBuckle town
S~V~S town
sabiplz town
Scotty town
Seanzie town
sig wolf
Sloonei dunno
TonyStarkPrime town
Urist town
What have i done to deserve this read Mac?
Make me roll my eyes when I was reading your iso
did you rand wolf and forgot how to fake a read or what?
I am back to the game, I am here until i fell asleep.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:04 pm
Kate's opening this game is much looser than in Carto...she got engaged right away in that game
100%
And to be clear, I didn't even play Carto or know how she entered that game. When you asked my to show my working I literally just went and found her most recent wolf game.
Now, Kate *can* enter more loosely as wolf than she did in Carto, but I've never seen wolf Kate enter a game as loosely as in this one.
Alrighty, fair play. I'm inclined to sheep your TR on Kate for now
Entering loosely is definitely something Golden is an expert at
Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:21 pm
by MacDougall
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:41 pm
Does anyone else want to insult me some more step right up
I hear you're into crystals
Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:22 pm
by robyn
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:20 pm
do you reckon that's w/w cuz I definitely do
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:02 am
Players
112 dunno
Alison town
Cape90 town
Creature wolf
Dennis wolf
DrWilgy town
Dyslexicon town
EnderWiggin wolf
falcon45ca town
Golden wolf
Guillotine town
hollowkatt town
ilario dunno
inawordyes wolf
Kate dunno
Le petit poussin dunno
Lilypetal town
lucy town
MacDougall wolf
Marmot town
master radishes town
Michelle town
Neon town
nutella town
Party Crasher dunno
Porscha dunno
pyxxy dunno
RondoDimBuckle town
S~V~S town
sabiplz town
Scotty town
Seanzie town
sig wolf
Sloonei dunno
TonyStarkPrime town
Urist town
What have i done to deserve this read Mac?
Make me roll my eyes when I was reading your iso
did you rand wolf and forgot how to fake a read or what?
I am back to the game, I am here until i fell asleep.
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:24 pm
i don't have a reason for urist town, i just like his pfp and he's posted at good times
You are not attempting to benefit the town with your play imo. Which I find scummy for you.
ratio
Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:27 pm
by robyn
actually what do you mean i'm not trying to benefit the town with my play?
did i not break up the nutella/sabi fight?
Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:27 pm
by MacDougall
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:29 am
Maybe I will actually read the entire game. 28 pages isn't that bad, and I'm intrigued by the drama and the talented cast.
It seems a foul fate has befallen our weary traveller on the journey.
Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:27 pm
by MacDougall
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:27 pm
actually what do you mean i'm not trying to benefit the town with my play?
did i not break up the nutella/sabi fight?
I dunno I didn't read that. Your posts that I've read have all just felt like they entirely lacked a town strategic mindset.
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:27 pm
actually what do you mean i'm not trying to benefit the town with my play?
did i not break up the nutella/sabi fight?
I dunno I didn't read that. Your posts that I've read have all just felt like they entirely lacked a town strategic mindset.
changed my d1 meta ftr
Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:29 pm
by MacDougall
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:28 pm
Mac is trolling
I'm not
Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:29 pm
by Golden
My thoughts on game state are thus:
There's a lot of weakarse wolf-reading going on, often for reasons that are trope 'that's wolfy' on stuff thats NAI. It's been hard to sort real suspicion from day one shitposting suspicion/reaction fishing for me.
There's been two things that I think are genuinely suspicion in a 'wolves there' way. The first is the suspicion on Kate, which is clearly not based in the thread at all and is entirely manufactured and hasn't gone away. The other is the number of people who are in the 'too many players, I'll wait to solve until later'. Michelle and Dennis I remember on that front, but there's more I need to check back on to remember exactly who. It's being used as a justification for why reads are hedgy/aren't good. Those are the two areas I'm currently focused on in wolf-hunting as most likely to be fruitful.
While I think the wolfhunting is weak, I've seen what I feel like is some genuinely good effort towards town-hunting. I have good vibes on at least neon, cape, nut, scotty, seanzie, lily from it, probably more that I would remember if I looked at the playerlist.
Also, from my perspective the most relevant solvey point I have to make is:
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:08 am
So I just read the rules and the rules expressly provide for BSG-style mafia.
My posts about having no evidence of TMI was thinking of two mafia sets but that seems unlikely based on rules as drafted. Reads as one mafia with a search mechanic. Still, though, I’d be hesitant at considering anyones townread as coming from TMI… the mafia appear to have as much interest in establishing honest town and wolfreads as anyone else, which means imo we need to rate ‘false read’ perspectives as less likely to be correct than they would usually be.
Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:29 pm
by robyn
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:28 pm
and how does breaking up sabi and nutella qualify as benefiting the town?
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:48 pm
I didn't really read it more like I looked at it and I've got nothing other than I'm still reluctant to play due to the size of the game
What did I say?
Something lIke
(I forgot to add) Dennis was rather reluctant to join this game because of the big playerlist
Something along those lines I'll grab it
Why did that paricular post catch your attention?
Because it reminded me how I don't really want to be in this game
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:27 pm
actually what do you mean i'm not trying to benefit the town with my play?
did i not break up the nutella/sabi fight?
I dunno I didn't read that. Your posts that I've read have all just felt like they entirely lacked a town strategic mindset.
changed my d1 meta ftr
this is not a meta read to begin with... I just am searching for intent behind your posts and struggle to see someone who is attempting to pursue a town wincon doing the things you are
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:04 pm
Kate's opening this game is much looser than in Carto...she got engaged right away in that game
100%
And to be clear, I didn't even play Carto or know how she entered that game. When you asked my to show my working I literally just went and found her most recent wolf game.
Now, Kate *can* enter more loosely as wolf than she did in Carto, but I've never seen wolf Kate enter a game as loosely as in this one.
Huh...
Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:31 pm
by MacDougall
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:29 pm
My thoughts on game state are thus:
There's a lot of weakarse wolf-reading going on, often for reasons that are trope 'that's wolfy' on stuff thats NAI. It's been hard to sort real suspicion from day one shitposting suspicion/reaction fishing for me.
There's been two things that I think are genuinely suspicion in a 'wolves there' way. The first is the suspicion on Kate, which is clearly not based in the thread at all and is entirely manufactured and hasn't gone away. The other is the number of people who are in the 'too many players, I'll wait to solve until later'. Michelle and Dennis I remember on that front, but there's more I need to check back on to remember exactly who. It's being used as a justification for why reads are hedgy/aren't good. Those are the two areas I'm currently focused on in wolf-hunting as most likely to be fruitful.
While I think the wolfhunting is weak, I've seen what I feel like is some genuinely good effort towards town-hunting. I have good vibes on at least neon, cape, nut, scotty, seanzie, lily from it, probably more that I would remember if I looked at the playerlist.
Also, from my perspective the most relevant solvey point I have to make is:
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:08 am
So I just read the rules and the rules expressly provide for BSG-style mafia.
My posts about having no evidence of TMI was thinking of two mafia sets but that seems unlikely based on rules as drafted. Reads as one mafia with a search mechanic. Still, though, I’d be hesitant at considering anyones townread as coming from TMI… the mafia appear to have as much interest in establishing honest town and wolfreads as anyone else, which means imo we need to rate ‘false read’ perspectives as less likely to be correct than they would usually be.
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:48 pm
I didn't really read it more like I looked at it and I've got nothing other than I'm still reluctant to play due to the size of the game
What did I say?
Something lIke
(I forgot to add) Dennis was rather reluctant to join this game because of the big playerlist
Something along those lines I'll grab it
Why did that paricular post catch your attention?
Because it reminded me how I don't really want to be in this game
Is because you randed wolf isn't it?
Is okay you can tell me I won't tell the thread
But if I told you here the rest of thread would see it. I'll tell you why in wolf chat
Now I'M trolling look at me being a hypocrite and all
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:27 pm
actually what do you mean i'm not trying to benefit the town with my play?
did i not break up the nutella/sabi fight?
I dunno I didn't read that. Your posts that I've read have all just felt like they entirely lacked a town strategic mindset.
changed my d1 meta ftr
this is not a meta read to begin with... I just am searching for intent behind your posts and struggle to see someone who is attempting to pursue a town wincon doing the things you are
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:41 pm
Honestly
[VOTE:
Neon] aubergine
Don't expect me to properly elaborate
The above is live footage of me winning a bet with myself that Creature would vote me D1
Who supplied the confetti?
Confetti Associates and Appraisals Inc LLC
Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:33 pm
by Dennis
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:29 pm
My thoughts on game state are thus:
There's a lot of weakarse wolf-reading going on, often for reasons that are trope 'that's wolfy' on stuff thats NAI. It's been hard to sort real suspicion from day one shitposting suspicion/reaction fishing for me.
There's been two things that I think are genuinely suspicion in a 'wolves there' way. The first is the suspicion on Kate, which is clearly not based in the thread at all and is entirely manufactured and hasn't gone away. The other is the number of people who are in the 'too many players, I'll wait to solve until later'. Michelle and Dennis I remember on that front, but there's more I need to check back on to remember exactly who. It's being used as a justification for why reads are hedgy/aren't good. Those are the two areas I'm currently focused on in wolf-hunting as most likely to be fruitful.
While I think the wolfhunting is weak, I've seen what I feel like is some genuinely good effort towards town-hunting. I have good vibes on at least neon, cape, nut, scotty, seanzie, lily from it, probably more that I would remember if I looked at the playerlist.
Also, from my perspective the most relevant solvey point I have to make is:
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:08 am
So I just read the rules and the rules expressly provide for BSG-style mafia.
My posts about having no evidence of TMI was thinking of two mafia sets but that seems unlikely based on rules as drafted. Reads as one mafia with a search mechanic. Still, though, I’d be hesitant at considering anyones townread as coming from TMI… the mafia appear to have as much interest in establishing honest town and wolfreads as anyone else, which means imo we need to rate ‘false read’ perspectives as less likely to be correct than they would usually be.
I hate that I'm in that group because it's accurate
I am genuinely trying for the record
Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:33 pm
by Golden
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:27 pm
ok lol im pocketed by golden for real by now
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:29 pm
My thoughts on game state are thus:
There's a lot of weakarse wolf-reading going on, often for reasons that are trope 'that's wolfy' on stuff thats NAI. It's been hard to sort real suspicion from day one shitposting suspicion/reaction fishing for me.
There's been two things that I think are genuinely suspicion in a 'wolves there' way. The first is the suspicion on Kate, which is clearly not based in the thread at all and is entirely manufactured and hasn't gone away. The other is the number of people who are in the 'too many players, I'll wait to solve until later'. Michelle and Dennis I remember on that front, but there's more I need to check back on to remember exactly who. It's being used as a justification for why reads are hedgy/aren't good. Those are the two areas I'm currently focused on in wolf-hunting as most likely to be fruitful.
While I think the wolfhunting is weak, I've seen what I feel like is some genuinely good effort towards town-hunting. I have good vibes on at least neon, cape, nut, scotty, seanzie, lily from it, probably more that I would remember if I looked at the playerlist.
Also, from my perspective the most relevant solvey point I have to make is:
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:08 am
So I just read the rules and the rules expressly provide for BSG-style mafia.
My posts about having no evidence of TMI was thinking of two mafia sets but that seems unlikely based on rules as drafted. Reads as one mafia with a search mechanic. Still, though, I’d be hesitant at considering anyones townread as coming from TMI… the mafia appear to have as much interest in establishing honest town and wolfreads as anyone else, which means imo we need to rate ‘false read’ perspectives as less likely to be correct than they would usually be.
who are pursuing Kate?
The list of people who have either voted kate or pushed back on/indicated scepticism in town reads of Kate is:
did you rand wolf and forgot how to fake a read or what? 
