The Syndicate

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:45 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:40 pm People with no votes (not counting mine) that I don’t have a reason to townread: Wilgy, Dunya (arguable), Enrique, Falcon

People with votes that I do have a reason to townread: Marmot, Epi, Urist, JPic (arguable), Mac (arguable)

People with votes I don’t have a reason to townread: Ted

I’m sure I left somebody out but I loathe the current wagon formation.

Sell me on wolf Falcon if you can? I kinda think he's town so getting your perspective not only helps me on him, but also helps me sort you.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:49 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:45 pm Marmot,

Just noticed it. I tend to start reading at point B and stay caught up until point C. Then I will be away until point D. At that point, I will simultaneously start reading at point D and C, trying to keep up and ketchup at the same time. Occasionally (especially early in the game), I will close a window (usually on purpose) and simply lose the posts between C and D.

You can kinda see these two parallel time streams in my isos if you really look for them so just FYI, that’s why it may feel like I’m picking random ass posts out from 10 pages back.

Anyway, why?

I do this too tbh. It's a pain in active games and I just give up on the point C catchup.

What did you just notice? I'm confused at what you're responding to.

Also, why what?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:41 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:16 pm hmm, i saw pyre ted yesterday, i tred him in that game and defended him against the thread and he sussed me so i'm gonna be wary of letting him think i townread him now lol.

[VOTE: guillio] aubergine tbh. he's stifling me and i don't like it. if anyone has been "chaotic" in the thread, it's been him.

Did you notice this earlier and comment on it now, or just notice this?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:44 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:34 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:31 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:33 pm @Justplayingitcool
@hollowkatt

Talk to me about your votes.

Ted is a wolf.

Maybe give me a little bit more.

He's a really furry wolf?
I dunno what you want from me. I think his play D1 with regards to mana generation is wolfy, and I think it's weird how he's not trying to solve all that hard today while being on the hot seat when he said he'd do good work if he lived through D1. He hasn't been exactly slanking, but like when I'm town and on the hot seat like that I tend to go into overdrive and just churn out posts, reads, and pushes and really get down in the trenches with the people I wolf read.
Instead Ted is just kinda "here" and I have to wonder if that's b/c he's trying to avoid spew.

I know not everyone plays like me, but more often than not, in my experience, townies under pressure "do work" and wolves under pressure "do not-work".

Spoiler: show

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:34 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:31 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:29 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:21 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:22 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:58 am


What is falcon's single scummiest post, you never told us.

I was hoping to cheat on the quiz.

Have you answered yet?

Yeah. When I voted for him.

You did comment on on his iso as a whole, not his single scummiest post.

I’m the type to still be working after you’ve turned in your trick quiz with your name only on it.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:51 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:45 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:40 pm People with no votes (not counting mine) that I don’t have a reason to townread: Wilgy, Dunya (arguable), Enrique, Falcon

People with votes that I do have a reason to townread: Marmot, Epi, Urist, JPic (arguable), Mac (arguable)

People with votes I don’t have a reason to townread: Ted

I’m sure I left somebody out but I loathe the current wagon formation.

Sell me on wolf Falcon if you can? I kinda think he's town so getting your perspective not only helps me on him, but also helps me sort you.

I don’t have a super strong Falcon read. It’s just a hunch. He doesn’t feel like he’s really trying to determine alignment. He’s just mad that players aren’t doing enough and voting for some of them. He had a badish push on...Epi? Maybe?

Like the frustration could be real. I just didn’t get the idea he was trying to read me. Maybe his vote on me was trying to get me to react so he could. Idk.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:56 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:44 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:34 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:31 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:33 pm @Justplayingitcool
@hollowkatt

Talk to me about your votes.

Ted is a wolf.

Maybe give me a little bit more.

He's a really furry wolf?
I dunno what you want from me. I think his play D1 with regards to mana generation is wolfy, and I think it's weird how he's not trying to solve all that hard today while being on the hot seat when he said he'd do good work if he lived through D1. He hasn't been exactly slanking, but like when I'm town and on the hot seat like that I tend to go into overdrive and just churn out posts, reads, and pushes and really get down in the trenches with the people I wolf read.
Instead Ted is just kinda "here" and I have to wonder if that's b/c he's trying to avoid spew.

I know not everyone plays like me, but more often than not, in my experience, townies under pressure "do work" and wolves under pressure "do not-work".

Spoiler: show

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:34 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:31 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:29 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:21 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:22 am

I was hoping to cheat on the quiz.

Have you answered yet?

Yeah. When I voted for him.

You did comment on on his iso as a whole, not his single scummiest post.

I’m the type to still be working after you’ve turned in your trick quiz with your name only on it.

I can vibe with that read. I want to townread you for it, too.


Hmmmmmm.


Ted or JPic?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:54 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:49 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:45 pm Marmot,

Just noticed it. I tend to start reading at point B and stay caught up until point C. Then I will be away until point D. At that point, I will simultaneously start reading at point D and C, trying to keep up and ketchup at the same time. Occasionally (especially early in the game), I will close a window (usually on purpose) and simply lose the posts between C and D.

You can kinda see these two parallel time streams in my isos if you really look for them so just FYI, that’s why it may feel like I’m picking random ass posts out from 10 pages back.

Anyway, why?

I do this too tbh. It's a pain in active games and I just give up on the point C catchup.

What did you just notice? I'm confused at what you're responding to.

Also, why what?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:41 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:16 pm hmm, i saw pyre ted yesterday, i tred him in that game and defended him against the thread and he sussed me so i'm gonna be wary of letting him think i townread him now lol.

[VOTE: guillio] aubergine tbh. he's stifling me and i don't like it. if anyone has been "chaotic" in the thread, it's been him.

Did you notice this earlier and comment on it now, or just notice this?

In hindsight, I think you were talking to Dunya about this post not to me about my post about this post.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:58 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:56 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:44 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:34 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:31 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:33 pm @Justplayingitcool
@hollowkatt

Talk to me about your votes.

Ted is a wolf.

Maybe give me a little bit more.

He's a really furry wolf?
I dunno what you want from me. I think his play D1 with regards to mana generation is wolfy, and I think it's weird how he's not trying to solve all that hard today while being on the hot seat when he said he'd do good work if he lived through D1. He hasn't been exactly slanking, but like when I'm town and on the hot seat like that I tend to go into overdrive and just churn out posts, reads, and pushes and really get down in the trenches with the people I wolf read.
Instead Ted is just kinda "here" and I have to wonder if that's b/c he's trying to avoid spew.

I know not everyone plays like me, but more often than not, in my experience, townies under pressure "do work" and wolves under pressure "do not-work".

Spoiler: show

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:34 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:31 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:29 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:21 pm


Have you answered yet?

Yeah. When I voted for him.

You did comment on on his iso as a whole, not his single scummiest post.

I’m the type to still be working after you’ve turned in your trick quiz with your name only on it.

I can vibe with that read. I want to townread you for it, too.


Hmmmmmm.


Ted or JPic?

you and me baby, town core 4 lyfe

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:58 pm you and me baby, town core 4 lyfe

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:03 pm I dunno what Leorio is, but I am TRing you again Jack

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:03 pm See, like idk if that’s a lion saying yes or a lion saying no.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:16 pm [VOTE: Ted] aubergine

@Enrique

Maybe. In total, I had 1 less mana yesterday than I needed to use my better power. So it would be out to use. That said, there’s a fair chance I got pity the fooled by the wolves yesterday because I asked for more mana so if you give it to me and the same gift and fool pittying happens again, I may be on my way to dying.

Legit, probably best to just give it to someone you townread and not have anyone volunteer power info.

(Though fool pitying isn’t that strong)

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:12 pm This is going to sound like a trick question but please try to follow. Would somebody here like to (volunteer to) have more mana without receiving any mana (and thus risking PtF)? Please make a line and I will review your cases individually. ty.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:14 pm My perception of today's gamestate is that town players are starting to find each other and establish a towncore. I could be wrong, but a number of players that I townread yesterday still hold that status in my mind today, and not only that, they're seeing it in each other. Epi/Guillo. Jack/HK. Myself/Jack. Dunya/Wilgy.

I'll admit I could be very wrong about any number of them, but I don't think today's the day that happens.


If that is what's happening, that would mean my perception that the outliers sewing discord among those players are the mafia. JPIC and falcon are two players who imo are doing that today.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:16 pm [VOTE: Ted] aubergine

@Enrique

Maybe. In total, I had 1 less mana yesterday than I needed to use my better power. So it would be out to use. That said, there’s a fair chance I got pity the fooled by the wolves yesterday because I asked for more mana so if you give it to me and the same gift and fool pittying happens again, I may be on my way to dying.

Legit, probably best to just give it to someone you townread and not have anyone volunteer power info.

(Though fool pitying isn’t that strong)

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:21 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:12 pm This is going to sound like a trick question but please try to follow. Would somebody here like to (volunteer to) have more mana without receiving any mana (and thus risking PtF)? Please make a line and I will review your cases individually. ty.

I think all of us can do flashier things with more mana than we can produce. At least one person has talked about Kicker with regards to their abilities meaning they can do something cooler than normal with more than they can produce.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:56 pm @falcon45ca

Can we learn we’re both town and yeet someone not cuddly rodent shaped?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:14 pm My perception of today's gamestate is that town players are starting to find each other and establish a towncore. I could be wrong, but a number of players that I townread yesterday still hold that status in my mind today, and not only that, they're seeing it in each other. Epi/Guillo. Jack/HK. Myself/Jack. Dunya/Wilgy.

I'll admit I could be very wrong about any number of them, but I don't think today's the day that happens.


If that is what's happening, that would mean my perception that the outliers sewing discord among those players are the mafia. JPIC and falcon are two players who imo are doing that today.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:44 pm I dunno what you want from me. I think his play D1 with regards to mana generation is wolfy, and I think it's weird how he's not trying to solve all that hard today while being on the hot seat when he said he'd do good work if he lived through D1. He hasn't been exactly slanking, but like when I'm town and on the hot seat like that I tend to go into overdrive and just churn out posts, reads, and pushes and really get down in the trenches with the people I wolf read.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:14 pm My perception of today's gamestate is that town players are starting to find each other and establish a towncore. I could be wrong, but a number of players that I townread yesterday still hold that status in my mind today, and not only that, they're seeing it in each other. Epi/Guillo. Jack/HK. Myself/Jack. Dunya/Wilgy.

I'll admit I could be very wrong about any number of them, but I don't think today's the day that happens.


If that is what's happening, that would mean my perception that the outliers sewing discord among those players are the mafia. JPIC and falcon are two players who imo are doing that today.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:39 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:14 pm My perception of today's gamestate is that town players are starting to find each other and establish a towncore. I could be wrong, but a number of players that I townread yesterday still hold that status in my mind today, and not only that, they're seeing it in each other. Epi/Guillo. Jack/HK. Myself/Jack. Dunya/Wilgy.

I'll admit I could be very wrong about any number of them, but I don't think today's the day that happens.


If that is what's happening, that would mean my perception that the outliers sewing discord among those players are the mafia. JPIC and falcon are two players who imo are doing that today.

What does this mean? Sounds like you're hedging a bit, and what do you mean "don't think today's the day that happens"? How on earth is a TP this confident in their reads?


What discord am I sewing amongst the players today?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:45 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:39 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:14 pm My perception of today's gamestate is that town players are starting to find each other and establish a towncore. I could be wrong, but a number of players that I townread yesterday still hold that status in my mind today, and not only that, they're seeing it in each other. Epi/Guillo. Jack/HK. Myself/Jack. Dunya/Wilgy.

I'll admit I could be very wrong about any number of them, but I don't think today's the day that happens.


If that is what's happening, that would mean my perception that the outliers sewing discord among those players are the mafia. JPIC and falcon are two players who imo are doing that today.

What does this mean? Sounds like you're hedging a bit, and what do you mean "don't think today's the day that happens"? How on earth is a TP this confident in their reads?


What discord am I sewing amongst the players today?

I'm confident in the POE that I've established, and until it's proved inaccurate, I don't feel the need reconsider my strong townreads.


But to answer your question, it's posts like this. Instead of asking me to clarify or something like that, you're saying that I'm hedging and imo framing my post in a negative light and discrediting me.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:44 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:14 pm My perception of today's gamestate is that town players are starting to find each other and establish a towncore. I could be wrong, but a number of players that I townread yesterday still hold that status in my mind today, and not only that, they're seeing it in each other. Epi/Guillo. Jack/HK. Myself/Jack. Dunya/Wilgy.

I'll admit I could be very wrong about any number of them, but I don't think today's the day that happens.


If that is what's happening, that would mean my perception that the outliers sewing discord among those players are the mafia. JPIC and falcon are two players who imo are doing that today.

Sewing discord for scumreading you? ok pal

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:46 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:41 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:40 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:39 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:37 am Vote for Epi you God damned *expletive deleted*.

Can I get a check in on how you're feeling Mac? You seem irritated.

How caught up are you rn?

Supremely irritated.

Not very.

What can we do to not irritate you?

How much do you plan on catching up?

I dunno but asking me questions like that seems to work. What are you Dr. Phil?

I don't know at this point. If I live a little while I'll get around to it.

I don't super need to catch up to be positively contributing tho.

I just outed myself as town KP so I will catch a NK tonight probably.

so you didnt block me?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:48 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:44 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:14 pm My perception of today's gamestate is that town players are starting to find each other and establish a towncore. I could be wrong, but a number of players that I townread yesterday still hold that status in my mind today, and not only that, they're seeing it in each other. Epi/Guillo. Jack/HK. Myself/Jack. Dunya/Wilgy.

I'll admit I could be very wrong about any number of them, but I don't think today's the day that happens.


If that is what's happening, that would mean my perception that the outliers sewing discord among those players are the mafia. JPIC and falcon are two players who imo are doing that today.

Sewing discord for scumreading you? ok pal

What do you think of my townreads? Do you disagree?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:47 pm anyway, still keeping my vote on jpic and it's probably locked in for the day

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:12 pm This is going to sound like a trick question but please try to follow. Would somebody here like to (volunteer to) have more mana without receiving any mana (and thus risking PtF)? Please make a line and I will review your cases individually. ty.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:50 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:47 pm anyway, still keeping my vote on jpic and it's probably locked in for the day

[VOTE: Ted] aubergine

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:24 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:16 pm [VOTE: Ted] aubergine

@Enrique

Maybe. In total, I had 1 less mana yesterday than I needed to use my better power. So it would be out to use. That said, there’s a fair chance I got pity the fooled by the wolves yesterday because I asked for more mana so if you give it to me and the same gift and fool pittying happens again, I may be on my way to dying.

Legit, probably best to just give it to someone you townread and not have anyone volunteer power info.

(Though fool pitying isn’t that strong)

Okay. You’re in consideration right now, I can remove you from my list if you want me to. If you’re on the list though you should ask the thread NOT to give you any mana to avoid PtF risk (idk whether the mafia would risk it / think i’m bluffing but best stay clear).

You wouldn’t be able to use this mana tonight.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:46 pm All of that nodding up and down while I was reading dunya's posts have put a hurting on me.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:51 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:50 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:47 pm anyway, still keeping my vote on jpic and it's probably locked in for the day

[VOTE: Ted] aubergine

jsyk it looks wolfy because i'm a counterwagon to you

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:01 pm People I won't be voting for today:

dunya
Guillotine
Marmot
Kylemii

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:50 pm Marmot, were you pretty sure of your PoE when you voted for Made and he got lynched? That was proven inaccurate, so where does this confidence come from?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:25 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:12 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:07 pmI don't play Mafia the same way you do, that's one thing I've learned already.

well keep practicing and someday you could

Kyle isn't dumb.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:51 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:12 pm This is going to sound like a trick question but please try to follow. Would somebody here like to (volunteer to) have more mana without receiving any mana (and thus risking PtF)? Please make a line and I will review your cases individually. ty.

Yes please. I have a kicker that's deal 5 damage