The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 11:42 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 8:32 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 2:59 am I should really be asleep by now but I suddenly got this nagging hunch that wolves is lapluie and marmot. Idk, was thinking about some possible permutations and this one seemed to click, but I haven't looked into much to flesh it out so it's just a hunch.

Linki ok yeah sounds good lol [VOTE: lapluie] aubergine

And y’all are gonna call my thought processes hard to follow?

I didn't

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 10:49 am I’m just realizing how brilliant Marmot’s D1 tradition is. There is no expectation of him ever making a real stance this phase as town and it carries over into his scum game easily, freeing him of most things a scum might get trapped in that early. I’m not making a read here, just, kudos.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 1:51 am I may be the most arrogant, annoying bastard on the Internet, and that means nothing about my alignment.

If I get lynched, then the civilians have scored on the wrong goal. They have rewarded the mafia for leaving me alive, and fallen for their transparent shit drooling and without freedom of will.

Colin knows I’m a civilian and gets my vote.

lapluie wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 11:42 pm @nutella what if you're Quin's teammate tho??? So??? ima vote you

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 11:46 pm I want everyone to reflect on why JJJ is automatically a ninth inning at-bat. Go.

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 11:57 pm I don't mind being kicked off the team if that's what it takes for people to start taking more chances at the plate.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 2:08 pm

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 11:57 pm I don't mind being kicked off the team if that's what it takes for people to start taking more chances at the plate.

Would you vote Colin to save yourself?
Who is your biggest town read right now?

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 12:09 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 12:02 am

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 11:56 pm nutella took every post I made and never considered a good-guy context for any of them. She's cementing rather than evaluating (but apparently, that's what lapluie does too, so what do I know?).

False.

I read your ISO and only quoted a few posts that looked suspicious. That doesn't mean I'm not considering a good-guy context for you. It means I am doing so silently while watching how you react to my prods. But since you must know, yes, I am considering your ISO from a civilian angle. What I chose to post may look like confirmation bias but it does not fully represent my thought process. Everything in due time, Mister B.

This is too much. Anybody with eyeballs should be able to tell I'm not a threat to anybody.

Get real.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 1:51 am I may be the most arrogant, annoying bastard on the Internet, and that means nothing about my alignment.

If I get lynched, then the civilians have scored on the wrong goal. They have rewarded the mafia for leaving me alive, and fallen for their transparent shit drooling and without freedom of will.

Colin knows I’m a civilian and gets my vote.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 2:59 am I should really be asleep by now but I suddenly got this nagging hunch that wolves is lapluie and marmot. Idk, was thinking about some possible permutations and this one seemed to click, but I haven't looked into much to flesh it out so it's just a hunch.

Linki ok yeah sounds good lol [VOTE: lapluie] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 11:58 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 10:49 am I’m just realizing how brilliant Marmot’s D1 tradition is. There is no expectation of him ever making a real stance this phase as town and it carries over into his scum game easily, freeing him of most things a scum might get trapped in that early. I’m not making a read here, just, kudos.

K Colin/marmot prolly not w/w

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 2:34 pm K Dys could be bad

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 2:11 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 2:08 pm

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 11:57 pm I don't mind being kicked off the team if that's what it takes for people to start taking more chances at the plate.

Would you vote Colin to save yourself?
Who is your biggest town read right now?

Regardless of alignment, in 98% of all cases, wouldn’t you vote anybody to save yourself?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 2:38 pm @Dyslexicon, you dentist-claimed Floyd but then had me as a suspect for a while. Why the inconsistency?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 3:51 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 2:38 pm Dyslexicon, you dentist-claimed Floyd but then had me as a suspect for a while. Why the inconsistency?

Is this your reasoning behind the post above it, or is there more?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 1:31 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 1:51 am I may be the most arrogant, annoying bastard on the Internet, and that means nothing about my alignment.

If I get lynched, then the civilians have scored on the wrong goal. They have rewarded the mafia for leaving me alive, and fallen for their transparent shit drooling and without freedom of will.

Colin knows I’m a civilian and gets my vote.

I read you as civilian. Unless they’re sitting on their hands and not broadcasting suspicions, almost everybody else in the game seems to be reading you as civilian too — are they going to get lynched for that?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 1:48 pm Ok the last few pages as I’m reading them is a big ole oscillation of reads, and I see it started by Epi coming out swinging. He’s seems like he’s flailing looking for more suspects

I feel like Nutella is all over the place but I read her as town as fuck so far and even though it’s probanly confusing the town the more her reads change on a dime, I’m calling her as mucho town read.

JJJ lasting long into the game is something that I remember irked me subconsciously in Ass class, when he was unbelievably town, yet I was convinced he was bad even after the game ended. The difference here is that if he was bad, he would have totally thrown someone under the bus seemingly out of left field so the options here are 1) he spidey sensed that shit D1 or 2) he did something he confesses he would never do as mafia D1 and has been pulling back afterwards deliberately. I’m in the summer camp of divine JJJ who’s just been off his mark the pet few days.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:36 pm I don’t know about Jay you guys. Would he make a legacy post that long, for the second time in the game, if he were scum? My instinct and knowledge of him as a player tells me he’d put the effort to try to frame somebody else instead or something.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 3:55 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 2:30 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 2:24 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:36 pm I don’t know about Jay you guys. Would he make a legacy post that long, for the second time in the game, if he were scum? My instinct and knowledge of him as a player tells me he’d put the effort to try to frame somebody else instead or something.

This for example.

You’ve expressed unease about me given the way I play. That’s fine. Considering that though, I struggle to understand why my legacy posts, which were inspirational in nature and did not contain actual reads, would be sufficient to alleviate the tinfoil you otherwise tend to project about me. Within that framework this seems a tenuous defense of me.

Hmm ok
I guess just because it seems like, knowing you, you’ve said before that scum need to just be able to survive the noose right no matter what that’s their most important goal so I think with that in mind if you were scum you would be actively trying to do that in a different way like saying oh lynch this person instead here’s a big fucking case you know. Instead of being like ... yall if my ass gets murdered here are your instrucfions before leaving earth. I bet that doesnt make sense but thats the thinking. I mean you can do WIFOM but idk get that shit outta here

actually a fair point. I think Jay's response to MP's and my suspicion/intent to lynch him makes him look more town atm, I'm just... very afraid that he could easily fake that classic jay supatown behavior. Like I said earlier I'm kind of in paranoid-tinfoily mode and just won't feel right until I know his alignment for sure, but I will probably end up on a more reasonable candidate (eloh or marmot) by eod.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:48 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:42 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:41 pm Another angle to address while we're here and the wagons are split in two primary directions. Which one is more likely to be unlynchable? I understand it's difficult to tell, but I think it'd be prudent to try.

Fucking unlynchable role.

I'm not really sure. Elo doesn't seem to care, which could indicate that, but Marmot has been putting forth an insane effort, which in a different way could indicate that?

I don't know.

One thing I notice is that Marmot's quietest day (this one) also happens to be the one in which he is faced with the most pressure. I'm not sure what he's doing in the real world right now, but if that bears relevance to game activity then it might indicate a reduced degree of concern over his place in the poll.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 2:34 pm K Dys could be bad

Quin wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 2:35 am kay im not gonna break that up so just pretend my response is well organised and nod approvingly

The two civs reads were referring to my GTH list earlier. When I say I want a clean slate, such a thing obviously doesn't exist. I had those reads for a reason. The idea is that I take a step back and reform my opinions with something that's not spur of the moment. So while I say they're good, those are reads I no longer care about preserving.

I had beef with that one post of Mac's. Marmot looks very good on his own power. And I did complete the whole ISO. I had three tabs open at a time, the main ISO, a quote and the opened quote where I wrote my thoughts. In the end I must've posted the third tab and closed to one I was working on. Case in point he's exhibiting a strong civilian effort.

I talked about the choutas vote in the lost content. He was pushing lapluie as bad before moving his vote which shows he actually gives a damn about making a difference. I have no problems with someone like that moving off their wagon at the last minute.

When I talk about genuinity, I'm talking about a performance that shows a genuine desire to solve the game. I've already made this whole "scum can be genuine too" argument in another game. I know how it works.
Please don't pretend WIFOM from Marmot is something new.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 2:38 pm @Dyslexicon, you dentist-claimed Floyd but then had me as a suspect for a while. Why the inconsistency?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 5:20 pm I read through Marmot's ISO, and it made me feel better than I expected. Most of the posts looks very genuine. I'm wary of Marmot being a charesmatic player. All in all I'm less suspicious than I was. There's a couple of things that did stand out to me.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 6:53 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 6:48 pm Mafia is a hard game, especially on Cindy Kate. Why is that?

Funny you say that in a game where we lynch mafia on Day 1.

I may be stretching here, but TMI that I'm town?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:37 am [VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine fornow.

And why did you vote Eloh again? You've been defending her mostly up to this point.

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 9:41 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:29 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:25 pm Quin, reads list?

GTH, sure.

colin - good
dizzy - bad
eloh - good
epi - good
3j - bad
lap - bad
MP - good
marmot - good
nutella - good
scotty - good

Quin wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 9:08 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:56 pm Y'all should give me a four-name POE pool.

Eloh
MP
Dizzy
Epi

Quin has said next to nothing about me.

That's because he knows better.

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 11:46 pm I want everyone to reflect on why JJJ is automatically a ninth inning at-bat. Go.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 2:59 am I should really be asleep by now but I suddenly got this nagging hunch that wolves is lapluie and marmot. Idk, was thinking about some possible permutations and this one seemed to click, but I haven't looked into much to flesh it out so it's just a hunch.

Linki ok yeah sounds good lol [VOTE: lapluie] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 2:38 pm @Dyslexicon, you dentist-claimed Floyd but then had me as a suspect for a while. Why the inconsistency?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 4:47 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:36 pm I don’t know about Jay you guys. Would he make a legacy post that long, for the second time in the game, if he were scum? My instinct and knowledge of him as a player tells me he’d put the effort to try to frame somebody else instead or something.

This defense doesn't make sense to me. As in, it looks to me like you'd expect Jay to do anything else as scum aside from the thing that he actually did do. TMI.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 5:07 pm I appreciate y'all not lynching me when I wasn't around, especially MP for bothering to check back in the thread and confirming that I'd not be around.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 5:36 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 5:07 pm I appreciate y'all not lynching me when I wasn't around, especially MP for bothering to check back in the thread and confirming that I'd not be around.

Fufufufufu

I would have voted you at the time regardless of your involvement in the weekend thread party

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 5:40 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 5:36 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 5:07 pm I appreciate y'all not lynching me when I wasn't around, especially MP for bothering to check back in the thread and confirming that I'd not be around.

Fufufufufu

I would have voted you at the time regardless of your involvement in the weekend thread party

That bothers me. I make 200 posts Days 1-2, and receive suspicion, yet no one acts on it. I make 1 post Day 3 and say I won't be around, and I receive 4 votes and almost get lynched.

The mafia are a bunch of cowards. Try lynching me when I'm here to defend myself dammit!

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 5:44 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 5:40 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 5:36 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 5:07 pm I appreciate y'all not lynching me when I wasn't around, especially MP for bothering to check back in the thread and confirming that I'd not be around.

Fufufufufu

I would have voted you at the time regardless of your involvement in the weekend thread party

That bothers me. I make 200 posts Days 1-2, and receive suspicion, yet no one acts on it. I make 1 post Day 3 and say I won't be around, and I receive 4 votes and almost get lynched.

The mafia are a bunch of cowards. Try lynching me when I'm here to defend myself dammit!

Interesting that you say mafia was trying to lynch you because Quin seems to think the strategic choice would have been latching into Elo.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 5:48 pm But then the strategic thing would have been to kill JJj early, and yet here we are.

Killing Mp does make sense if the mafia is going after high posters, but if that’s the case, why is JJJ still alive too? I’m just always on high alert when he’s not dead by now especially after voting off mafia d1