The Syndicate

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:20 pm [ytubehd][/ytubehd]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:36 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:35 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:33 am @Funnygurl555 can you claim your flavor please?

like my character?

Yeh

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:29 am I'm thinking about the possibility of Funnygurl being one-shot unexecutable and... for some reason I actually lean towards her being town still. I sort of think if I was scum and drew one-shot unexecutable, I'd try to play as townie as possible and use it as a trump card in endgame, not blow my load D1 and maybe get shot by a Vigilante. And I do think the way she played that D1 indicates that she was very aware she was not executable and would be happy to prove that to the town. Think about:

1) The way she didn't show any inkling of self-pres. I know she was around EoD and saw the CFD onto her go down, but she didn't bother switching her vote to LC for self-pres.

2) The way she kept on doing things the same way even after she was scumread for it. She said "I'm stubborn" at the time, but it could well be that she was happy to get scumread because she knew she wouldn't get executed.

3) The way she seemed more frustrated with the way people wouldn't listen to her than frightened at the possibility that she might get executed D1.

It's not a 100% sure read, but I do think that scum is more likely to get limited-use unexecutable than unlimited unexecutable (since, well, they need a way to die if the Vigilante gets killed early), and the way FG played it leans me more towards "I am completely unexecutable" than "I have one-shot unexecutable and I should use it at the right moment".

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:32 am I think those are reasonable takes regarding FG, Alison. I am also brought to wonder if a 1-shot chop-proof mafia FG is oblivious to my role at the end of the day and orders me to place a vote on her that ensures she takes the poll lead. She wouldn't know the day would end early granted, but it was still a tight situation wherein such a thing would be way sub-optimal.

If we assume people pay attention when they're evil.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:34 am I'd like to know how people feel about Long Con's recent appeals to me, just at face value. Given that I am the one receiving feedback from LC, I am more susceptible to bias in my interpretations than any third observers.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:15 pm Guys

I’m telling you I’ve seen syndicate games where mafia had a role that made them un-TKable

So there is no “if this claim is real it makes them locked town”

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:05 am FG is very adamant that she is protecting LC somehow but if they're not teammates then why?

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:57 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:54 am is it always town? yeah probably, could just be a great given fake claim, not sure how those were distributed not going to think about it. Play the game, not the host and all that.

i mean, it literally cant be a fake claim because we just saw its very real

Why can't it be a fake claim? As in like yes she didn't die but it doesn't mean for sure she is town. It almost sounded like she was claiming 3p before she said oh no no I'm town guys don't worry.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:24 am In the rules it says 3p that are a threat to town have to also be eliminated. And it also mentions a cult. He could be just throwing that in there to mess with us but connections between players can end up happening if they get recruited into a cult. Just a random thought of what if FG were a 3p cult leader type role and maybe was planning on recruiting LC. shrug I don't know probably too crazy of a theory, but as alison said it doesn't hurt to throw out random thoughts even if they may not make sense. And if someone already said something like this I may have missed it amongst the million posts so far.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:33 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:05 am FG is very adamant that she is protecting LC somehow but if they're not teammates then why?

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:57 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:54 am is it always town? yeah probably, could just be a great given fake claim, not sure how those were distributed not going to think about it. Play the game, not the host and all that.

i mean, it literally cant be a fake claim because we just saw its very real

Why can't it be a fake claim? As in like yes she didn't die but it doesn't mean for sure she is town. It almost sounded like she was claiming 3p before she said oh no no I'm town guys don't worry.

oh yeah, i mean her alignment can be fake. and the specifics of it can also be fake (is it perma or one shot). but she obviously has some unyeetable role

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:15 pm Guys

I’m telling you I’ve seen syndicate games where mafia had a role that made them un-TKable

So there is no “if this claim is real it makes them locked town”

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:38 pm We don't even know if she is unyeetable in regards to her own role, if she is a wolf it could be a partners ability honestly. either way I do not believe she is un-yeetable, I just don't. Its just a fun mechanic to play around as either alignment

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:43 pm

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:38 pm We don't even know if she is unyeetable in regards to her own role, if she is a wolf it could be a partners ability honestly. either way I do not believe she is un-yeetable, I just don't. Its just a fun mechanic to play around as either alignment

it seems directly tied to her character jack sparrow being an escape artist, so i think its more likely her own role

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:44 pm if there is a cult, I am out lol
Cult's take the fun right out of mafia for me

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:49 pm There was a Doctor Who Mafia on this site a few years ago, and the cult leader recruited every night and was invulnerable as long as there were cult members left alive. The game ended with me and one other unrecruited player trying desperately to solve the game while everyone else just laughed. It was terrible.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:23 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:20 pm [ytubehd][/ytubehd]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:36 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:35 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:33 am @Funnygurl555 can you claim your flavor please?

like my character?

Yeh

Figured, had to ask

What’s the flavor reason you can’t be TKed?

Don’t quote obviously just paraphrase

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:48 pm i could see a cult recruiter role being like “you are unyeetable until youve successfully recruited one time”

thats a scary thought

@ vig kill her please

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:51 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:48 pm i could see a cult recruiter role being like “you are unyeetable until youve successfully recruited one time”

thats a scary thought

@ vig kill her please

are you serious

if y'all kill me it's on you. clearly y'all should let the 3p and maf kill me and spend your vigs elesewhere. obviously

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:58 pm fine. w/e i'm out

like this is just mechanically shitty and im frustrated

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:31 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:15 pm Guys

I’m telling you I’ve seen syndicate games where mafia had a role that made them un-TKable

So there is no “if this claim is real it makes them locked town”

I mean if this is true, then we have to have some kind of killing role on the town side? or a 3P killer? and if both die? we can't win? that seems a bit insane and there is no way you believe this

KitsuShel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:59 pm A question and an observation. First, are open Night Phases a normal thing on this site or is it game-specific here? Because this is a first for me.

And an observation, I don’t think I’ve ever played in a game where a townsperson has an unyeetable role. Again, also pointing out that our play styles and game flavors are similar, yet pretty different at the same time. So I guess take my observation with a grain of salt.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:39 pm me @ this game

KitsuShel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:59 pm A question and an observation. First, are open Night Phases a normal thing on this site or is it game-specific here? Because this is a first for me.

And an observation, I don’t think I’ve ever played in a game where a townsperson has an unyeetable role. Again, also pointing out that our play styles and game flavors are similar, yet pretty different at the same time. So I guess take my observation with a grain of salt.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:00 pm

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:31 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:15 pm Guys

I’m telling you I’ve seen syndicate games where mafia had a role that made them un-TKable

So there is no “if this claim is real it makes them locked town”

I mean if this is true, then we have to have some kind of killing role on the town side? or a 3P killer? and if both die? we can't win? that seems a bit insane and there is no way you believe this

Look man I’m just telling you what I’ve seen

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:03 pm I think FG is scum someone tell me why

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:07 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:03 pm I think FG is scum someone tell me why

I don't know if this is a "help me justify my gut feeling" post or a legitimate "try to guess my reason" post, but if it's the latter my guess is that she didn't claim it until we wasted D1 on her.

Don't know how to feel about Hally's saying to shoot FG if there is a vig. If that is mafia trying to get vig to shoot town, it is openwolf in a way that doesn't feel very in line with Hally's personality. But I also have respect for Hally's scum range and have never seen her play as scum so I am not very confident in that read. The logic makes sense but I find it really difficult to ask a vig to shoot someone I think is town.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:08 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:07 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:03 pm I think FG is scum someone tell me why

I don't know if this is a "help me justify my gut feeling" post or a legitimate "try to guess my reason" post, but if it's the latter my guess is that she didn't claim it until we wasted D1 on her.

Don't know how to feel about Hally's saying to shoot FG if there is a vig. If that is mafia trying to get vig to shoot town, it is openwolf in a way that doesn't feel very in line with Hally's personality. But I also have respect for Hally's scum range and have never seen her play as scum so I am not very confident in that read. The logic makes sense but I find it really difficult to ask a vig to shoot someone I think is town.

No I have a definite reason, I’m seeing if anyone sees it without prompting cause I might be able to get a soft clear on them if they do lol

It isn’t what you said tho

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:11 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:08 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:07 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:03 pm I think FG is scum someone tell me why

I don't know if this is a "help me justify my gut feeling" post or a legitimate "try to guess my reason" post, but if it's the latter my guess is that she didn't claim it until we wasted D1 on her.

Don't know how to feel about Hally's saying to shoot FG if there is a vig. If that is mafia trying to get vig to shoot town, it is openwolf in a way that doesn't feel very in line with Hally's personality. But I also have respect for Hally's scum range and have never seen her play as scum so I am not very confident in that read. The logic makes sense but I find it really difficult to ask a vig to shoot someone I think is town.

No I have a definite reason, I’m seeing if anyone sees it without prompting cause I might be able to get a soft clear on them if they do lol

It isn’t what you said tho

Do you think this because she claimed to be a miller and also to be unlynchable and that would mean she had multiple powers in one role?

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:07 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:03 pm I think FG is scum someone tell me why

I don't know if this is a "help me justify my gut feeling" post or a legitimate "try to guess my reason" post, but if it's the latter my guess is that she didn't claim it until we wasted D1 on her.

Don't know how to feel about Hally's saying to shoot FG if there is a vig. If that is mafia trying to get vig to shoot town, it is openwolf in a way that doesn't feel very in line with Hally's personality. But I also have respect for Hally's scum range and have never seen her play as scum so I am not very confident in that read. The logic makes sense but I find it really difficult to ask a vig to shoot someone I think is town.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:11 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:08 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:07 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:03 pm I think FG is scum someone tell me why

I don't know if this is a "help me justify my gut feeling" post or a legitimate "try to guess my reason" post, but if it's the latter my guess is that she didn't claim it until we wasted D1 on her.

Don't know how to feel about Hally's saying to shoot FG if there is a vig. If that is mafia trying to get vig to shoot town, it is openwolf in a way that doesn't feel very in line with Hally's personality. But I also have respect for Hally's scum range and have never seen her play as scum so I am not very confident in that read. The logic makes sense but I find it really difficult to ask a vig to shoot someone I think is town.

No I have a definite reason, I’m seeing if anyone sees it without prompting cause I might be able to get a soft clear on them if they do lol

It isn’t what you said tho

Do you think this because she claimed to be a miller and also to be unlynchable and that would mean she had multiple powers in one role?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:11 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:08 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:07 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:03 pm I think FG is scum someone tell me why

I don't know if this is a "help me justify my gut feeling" post or a legitimate "try to guess my reason" post, but if it's the latter my guess is that she didn't claim it until we wasted D1 on her.

Don't know how to feel about Hally's saying to shoot FG if there is a vig. If that is mafia trying to get vig to shoot town, it is openwolf in a way that doesn't feel very in line with Hally's personality. But I also have respect for Hally's scum range and have never seen her play as scum so I am not very confident in that read. The logic makes sense but I find it really difficult to ask a vig to shoot someone I think is town.

No I have a definite reason, I’m seeing if anyone sees it without prompting cause I might be able to get a soft clear on them if they do lol

It isn’t what you said tho

Do you think this because she claimed to be a miller and also to be unlynchable and that would mean she had multiple powers in one role?

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:20 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:11 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:08 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:07 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:03 pm I think FG is scum someone tell me why

I don't know if this is a "help me justify my gut feeling" post or a legitimate "try to guess my reason" post, but if it's the latter my guess is that she didn't claim it until we wasted D1 on her.

Don't know how to feel about Hally's saying to shoot FG if there is a vig. If that is mafia trying to get vig to shoot town, it is openwolf in a way that doesn't feel very in line with Hally's personality. But I also have respect for Hally's scum range and have never seen her play as scum so I am not very confident in that read. The logic makes sense but I find it really difficult to ask a vig to shoot someone I think is town.

No I have a definite reason, I’m seeing if anyone sees it without prompting cause I might be able to get a soft clear on them if they do lol

It isn’t what you said tho

Do you think this because she claimed to be a miller and also to be unlynchable and that would mean she had multiple powers in one role?

remind me, did you claim miller?

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:21 pm FWIW, I've seen millers with multiple powers in one role before. It's not that uncommon, at least where I've played at. So I wouldn't rule it out as a possibility.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:20 pm @everyone please claim if you have more than one thing in your role (i.e., miller plus can do something else)

I only have one thing

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:20 pm @everyone please claim if you have more than one thing in your role (i.e., miller plus can do something else)

I only have one thing