Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:39 am
Why are illario and leetic in the poll together?
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Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:39 am
alright, im caught up with the thread. im somewhat tipsy and tired as hell so wont be able to dive into things until i get some sleep, but cassandra, illario/leetic, marmot, and lime coke are all villagers
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:40 am
YesEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:38 amIs Cassandra Alexa?nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:37 amyeah, i think alexa should know this tooEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:34 ammehhh these posts sound so bad to me, nutella going "I'm town and that's because the things I'm doing are towny right now and I recognize that," I just don't like, especially something like "if I was mafia I would have better reads but I don't care cause I'm town"nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:27 ammaybe if i were maf it would be more front of mind that you led the cfd but since im town i am just reactively getting bad vibes from you rn and not caring whatever else you had going for you
like sure that's cool but you're def reminding me of ur scum games rn
But any time I think this it's wrong and posts like this are usually just town
I think I've seen Nutella do this before as town too, I don't really remember
I know that in bread mafia I thought she was aw olf incorrectly for saying a bunch of stuff about how she's out of wolf range etc when pushed
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:40 am
shes a top priority for your masonlover and half the thread so either you bury someone harder or shes gonna die
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:40 am
come back when you know how to read past level 0
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:40 am
/vote cassandra
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:40 am
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:40 am
Yeah, it was a gambit, and I was playing Smash with a friend so I couldn't post right away. I've been collecting my thoughts in BTSC for the better part of the last 48 hours. Why are you judging my post by these technicalities rather than what's actually in them?Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:37 amYou made a couple posts claiming a red check but you had literal no conviction in it, and then you left for a bit to return with a random wall post, just feels mostly fake to me right now, and like giving thoughts rather to look productive rather than having themleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:33 amIt kind of reeks of trying too hard, since the post came from nowhere and did not flow naturally from their or anyone else's progression. It just feels like TMI.iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:29 amsmells unaligned 2 meleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:29 amWhat do you guys think about this post from Dyslexicon? It kind of came out of nowhere, especially considering they hadn't voiced suspicion of either slot up to that point, and the posts leading up to it don't elucidate it any furtherDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:53 pm Maybe this is the game Jimmay and Sloonmeister finally landed mafia together. We can only hope.
Yeah, you're gonna have to try harder than that. My post restriction's twice as strict as yours, y'knowEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:30 amwall post wolfleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:21 am List of people from least suspicious to most suspicious:
ilario - Mod-confirmed town to me
Marmot - Strong claim, doubt mafia would take responsibility for settling ties rather than keeping it hidden
cassandra - Good progression, good-looking EoD
Lime Coke - Same reasons as cassandra
falcon45ca - Is only scum if Mac is also, and probably not even then
anne - Not sure why people are still suspecting her, only way she's scum is if Wilgy and Axehole are also scum otherwise Jay would have no reason to bus
MacDougall - Good-looking interactions with Jay, Mac's a good enough player that he can fake them though. Still, I think the claim is more likely town than not.
iaafr - A bit all over the place at EoD, I have mixed feelings about him jumping off Jay's wagon, but there's still a lot of reasons to townread him
staypositivefriend - Probably my least confident of my town reads, she's towny but nothing that's lock town and is a little hedgy for my liking
NotAnAxehole - Jay seemed unconcerned with the possibility of him dying and 640 seems too obvious for a w/w interaction. Still, I'm not a fan of how he voted JJJ at last minute while previously saying he wouldn't vote Jay.
DrWilgy - Like Axehole, Jay seemed unconcerned with the possibility of him dying, and I can kind of see why MR would be a good shot from a town perspective. Still, there's nothing in his ISO that's particularly towny.
Sloonei/whoever his replacement is - Largely here due to PoE and a couple of Jay interactions that look not the best,
Dyslexicon - Many posts that look scummy in hindsight, 1035 is a noticeable example, bad Jay interactions
nutella - Showed same hedginess of Jay, scummy defense of Jay, last post before EoD was particularly scummy, seriously I would be shocked if this doesn't flip wolf.
Also, can someone who suspects anne tell me why they think JJJ would bus her? Also, what do you make of JJJ's hedginess the last time he was in thread, do you think he would have acted the same way if he thought that there was a considerable risk that one of his teammates would have gone down?
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:41 am
Alexa,
I sincerely apologize for speaking good will of your wolf read
Apologies, Esooa
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:41 am
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:42 am
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:42 am
I think the scummiest thing about if for esooa is that she hasn't mentioned nutella yet this game, then chose to write a long (long by esooa's standard post length thus far) and serious (also relative to esooa's other posts) post in defense of nutella in the middle of this mounting thunderdome. The tonal/volume shift don't match.
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:42 am
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:42 am
im going to cry i cant keep track of my posts
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:42 am
lc is there anything i can say to make you stop tunneling for like at least half a day phase
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:42 am
How is that a technicality? You had the desire to fake a red on your wolf read and the conviction of a wet towel in it?leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:40 amYeah, it was a gambit, and I was playing Smash with a friend so I couldn't post right away. I've been collecting my thoughts in BTSC for the better part of the last 48 hours. Why are you judging my post by these technicalities rather than what's actually in them?Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:37 amYou made a couple posts claiming a red check but you had literal no conviction in it, and then you left for a bit to return with a random wall post, just feels mostly fake to me right now, and like giving thoughts rather to look productive rather than having themleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:33 amIt kind of reeks of trying too hard, since the post came from nowhere and did not flow naturally from their or anyone else's progression. It just feels like TMI.iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:29 amsmells unaligned 2 meleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:29 amWhat do you guys think about this post from Dyslexicon? It kind of came out of nowhere, especially considering they hadn't voiced suspicion of either slot up to that point, and the posts leading up to it don't elucidate it any furtherDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:53 pm Maybe this is the game Jimmay and Sloonmeister finally landed mafia together. We can only hope.
Yeah, you're gonna have to try harder than that. My post restriction's twice as strict as yours, y'knowEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:30 amwall post wolfleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:21 am List of people from least suspicious to most suspicious:
ilario - Mod-confirmed town to me
Marmot - Strong claim, doubt mafia would take responsibility for settling ties rather than keeping it hidden
cassandra - Good progression, good-looking EoD
Lime Coke - Same reasons as cassandra
falcon45ca - Is only scum if Mac is also, and probably not even then
anne - Not sure why people are still suspecting her, only way she's scum is if Wilgy and Axehole are also scum otherwise Jay would have no reason to bus
MacDougall - Good-looking interactions with Jay, Mac's a good enough player that he can fake them though. Still, I think the claim is more likely town than not.
iaafr - A bit all over the place at EoD, I have mixed feelings about him jumping off Jay's wagon, but there's still a lot of reasons to townread him
staypositivefriend - Probably my least confident of my town reads, she's towny but nothing that's lock town and is a little hedgy for my liking
NotAnAxehole - Jay seemed unconcerned with the possibility of him dying and 640 seems too obvious for a w/w interaction. Still, I'm not a fan of how he voted JJJ at last minute while previously saying he wouldn't vote Jay.
DrWilgy - Like Axehole, Jay seemed unconcerned with the possibility of him dying, and I can kind of see why MR would be a good shot from a town perspective. Still, there's nothing in his ISO that's particularly towny.
Sloonei/whoever his replacement is - Largely here due to PoE and a couple of Jay interactions that look not the best,
Dyslexicon - Many posts that look scummy in hindsight, 1035 is a noticeable example, bad Jay interactions
nutella - Showed same hedginess of Jay, scummy defense of Jay, last post before EoD was particularly scummy, seriously I would be shocked if this doesn't flip wolf.
Also, can someone who suspects anne tell me why they think JJJ would bus her? Also, what do you make of JJJ's hedginess the last time he was in thread, do you think he would have acted the same way if he thought that there was a considerable risk that one of his teammates would have gone down?
But apparently you're a mason so lol
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:42 am
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:43 am
Is this a scumslip?
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:43 am
@nutella - can you expand on the bolded please? there was a completely immovable and stubborn wagon on anne that remained static in spite of how chaotic the EOD1 got, and this gave me the impression that anne was the designated d1 mischop. i dont think this read holds up to logical scrutiny and i actually think it's entirely possible anne is mafia, but im curious why you think that the wagon movement points to her being a wolf when i think on a surface level, it looks like the oppositenutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:14 amWagons, movement and composition like marmot said, other ppl are townierLime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:11 amWhy? Literally explain why.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:11 amBc Anne is also maf obvNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:02 am @ilario voting the deciding vote against mafia is a bad play tbh. I have no reason to move from Anne to JJJ if I'm on his team.
Idk I think axe's last minute vote on Jay is an awkward bus regardless of anne's alignment, but it's possible she has a stronger role
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:43 am
I HARD CLAIM PROTECTIVE
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:43 am
I am sorry for not having mentioned a specific player in whatMarmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:42 am
I think the scummiest thing about if for esooa is that she hasn't mentioned nutella yet this game, then chose to write a long (long by esooa's standard post length thus far) and serious (also relative to esooa's other posts) post in defense of nutella in the middle of this mounting thunderdome. The tonal/volume shift don't match.
The 40 minutes we've been here?
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:43 am
I didn't want a potential town cop to CC me lolEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:42 amHow is that a technicality? You had the desire to fake a red on your wolf read and the conviction of a wet towel in it?leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:40 amYeah, it was a gambit, and I was playing Smash with a friend so I couldn't post right away. I've been collecting my thoughts in BTSC for the better part of the last 48 hours. Why are you judging my post by these technicalities rather than what's actually in them?Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:37 amYou made a couple posts claiming a red check but you had literal no conviction in it, and then you left for a bit to return with a random wall post, just feels mostly fake to me right now, and like giving thoughts rather to look productive rather than having themleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:33 amIt kind of reeks of trying too hard, since the post came from nowhere and did not flow naturally from their or anyone else's progression. It just feels like TMI.iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:29 amsmells unaligned 2 meleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:29 amWhat do you guys think about this post from Dyslexicon? It kind of came out of nowhere, especially considering they hadn't voiced suspicion of either slot up to that point, and the posts leading up to it don't elucidate it any furtherDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:53 pm Maybe this is the game Jimmay and Sloonmeister finally landed mafia together. We can only hope.
Yeah, you're gonna have to try harder than that. My post restriction's twice as strict as yours, y'knowEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:30 amwall post wolfleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:21 am List of people from least suspicious to most suspicious:
ilario - Mod-confirmed town to me
Marmot - Strong claim, doubt mafia would take responsibility for settling ties rather than keeping it hidden
cassandra - Good progression, good-looking EoD
Lime Coke - Same reasons as cassandra
falcon45ca - Is only scum if Mac is also, and probably not even then
anne - Not sure why people are still suspecting her, only way she's scum is if Wilgy and Axehole are also scum otherwise Jay would have no reason to bus
MacDougall - Good-looking interactions with Jay, Mac's a good enough player that he can fake them though. Still, I think the claim is more likely town than not.
iaafr - A bit all over the place at EoD, I have mixed feelings about him jumping off Jay's wagon, but there's still a lot of reasons to townread him
staypositivefriend - Probably my least confident of my town reads, she's towny but nothing that's lock town and is a little hedgy for my liking
NotAnAxehole - Jay seemed unconcerned with the possibility of him dying and 640 seems too obvious for a w/w interaction. Still, I'm not a fan of how he voted JJJ at last minute while previously saying he wouldn't vote Jay.
DrWilgy - Like Axehole, Jay seemed unconcerned with the possibility of him dying, and I can kind of see why MR would be a good shot from a town perspective. Still, there's nothing in his ISO that's particularly towny.
Sloonei/whoever his replacement is - Largely here due to PoE and a couple of Jay interactions that look not the best,
Dyslexicon - Many posts that look scummy in hindsight, 1035 is a noticeable example, bad Jay interactions
nutella - Showed same hedginess of Jay, scummy defense of Jay, last post before EoD was particularly scummy, seriously I would be shocked if this doesn't flip wolf.
Also, can someone who suspects anne tell me why they think JJJ would bus her? Also, what do you make of JJJ's hedginess the last time he was in thread, do you think he would have acted the same way if he thought that there was a considerable risk that one of his teammates would have gone down?
But apparently you're a mason so lol
But this conversation is wasting precious posts for me, so I'll drop it
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:44 am
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:44 am
jay's stance on anne was quite weak/shrug, can easily see it as a nonchalant bus as her wagon took off, might need to reread it thoughleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:40 amYeah, it was a gambit, and I was playing Smash with a friend so I couldn't post right away. I've been collecting my thoughts in BTSC for the better part of the last 48 hours. Why are you judging my post by these technicalities rather than what's actually in them?Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:37 amYou made a couple posts claiming a red check but you had literal no conviction in it, and then you left for a bit to return with a random wall post, just feels mostly fake to me right now, and like giving thoughts rather to look productive rather than having themleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:33 amIt kind of reeks of trying too hard, since the post came from nowhere and did not flow naturally from their or anyone else's progression. It just feels like TMI.iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:29 amsmells unaligned 2 meleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:29 amWhat do you guys think about this post from Dyslexicon? It kind of came out of nowhere, especially considering they hadn't voiced suspicion of either slot up to that point, and the posts leading up to it don't elucidate it any furtherDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:53 pm Maybe this is the game Jimmay and Sloonmeister finally landed mafia together. We can only hope.
Yeah, you're gonna have to try harder than that. My post restriction's twice as strict as yours, y'knowEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:30 amwall post wolfleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:21 am List of people from least suspicious to most suspicious:
ilario - Mod-confirmed town to me
Marmot - Strong claim, doubt mafia would take responsibility for settling ties rather than keeping it hidden
cassandra - Good progression, good-looking EoD
Lime Coke - Same reasons as cassandra
falcon45ca - Is only scum if Mac is also, and probably not even then
anne - Not sure why people are still suspecting her, only way she's scum is if Wilgy and Axehole are also scum otherwise Jay would have no reason to bus
MacDougall - Good-looking interactions with Jay, Mac's a good enough player that he can fake them though. Still, I think the claim is more likely town than not.
iaafr - A bit all over the place at EoD, I have mixed feelings about him jumping off Jay's wagon, but there's still a lot of reasons to townread him
staypositivefriend - Probably my least confident of my town reads, she's towny but nothing that's lock town and is a little hedgy for my liking
NotAnAxehole - Jay seemed unconcerned with the possibility of him dying and 640 seems too obvious for a w/w interaction. Still, I'm not a fan of how he voted JJJ at last minute while previously saying he wouldn't vote Jay.
DrWilgy - Like Axehole, Jay seemed unconcerned with the possibility of him dying, and I can kind of see why MR would be a good shot from a town perspective. Still, there's nothing in his ISO that's particularly towny.
Sloonei/whoever his replacement is - Largely here due to PoE and a couple of Jay interactions that look not the best,
Dyslexicon - Many posts that look scummy in hindsight, 1035 is a noticeable example, bad Jay interactions
nutella - Showed same hedginess of Jay, scummy defense of Jay, last post before EoD was particularly scummy, seriously I would be shocked if this doesn't flip wolf.
Also, can someone who suspects anne tell me why they think JJJ would bus her? Also, what do you make of JJJ's hedginess the last time he was in thread, do you think he would have acted the same way if he thought that there was a considerable risk that one of his teammates would have gone down?
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:45 am
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:45 am
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:46 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:25 am Lime ngl I don't blame you for thinking my d1 was weak, I'm playing more low key than usual due to rl stuff, and on that note I will be flying home tomorrow and will be quite sparse
Still it should be clear that I'm uninformed and jumping between reads organically
whats up with this though
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:46 am
/vote nutella
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:46 am
esooa is mafia tbh
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:47 am
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:47 am
i had that thought overnight but it also depends on wilgy i think. but then marmot posted about how pure the wagon was and im not sure we can draw a form conclusion either waystaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:43 am@nutella - can you expand on the bolded please? there was a completely immovable and stubborn wagon on anne that remained static in spite of how chaotic the EOD1 got, and this gave me the impression that anne was the designated d1 mischop. i dont think this read holds up to logical scrutiny and i actually think it's entirely possible anne is mafia, but im curious why you think that the wagon movement points to her being a wolf when i think on a surface level, it looks like the oppositenutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:14 amWagons, movement and composition like marmot said, other ppl are townierLime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:11 amWhy? Literally explain why.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:11 amBc Anne is also maf obvNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:02 am @ilario voting the deciding vote against mafia is a bad play tbh. I have no reason to move from Anne to JJJ if I'm on his team.
Idk I think axe's last minute vote on Jay is an awkward bus regardless of anne's alignment, but it's possible she has a stronger role
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:48 am
idk read nutellas iso and control f jay in the middle pagesEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:46 amnutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:25 am Lime ngl I don't blame you for thinking my d1 was weak, I'm playing more low key than usual due to rl stuff, and on that note I will be flying home tomorrow and will be quite sparse
Still it should be clear that I'm uninformed and jumping between reads organicallywhats up with this though
to me it reads like somebody thinking everybody finding jay off was within the tolerance for his recent towngame meta and overcorrecting
like she said
as opposed to a scum partner trying to powerwolf jay out of contention
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:48 am
Why would Jay bus anne when he could have easily taken Wilgy or Axehole down? He had a GTH town on those two for some reasonnutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:44 amjay's stance on anne was quite weak/shrug, can easily see it as a nonchalant bus as her wagon took off, might need to reread it thoughleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:40 amYeah, it was a gambit, and I was playing Smash with a friend so I couldn't post right away. I've been collecting my thoughts in BTSC for the better part of the last 48 hours. Why are you judging my post by these technicalities rather than what's actually in them?Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:37 amYou made a couple posts claiming a red check but you had literal no conviction in it, and then you left for a bit to return with a random wall post, just feels mostly fake to me right now, and like giving thoughts rather to look productive rather than having themleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:33 amIt kind of reeks of trying too hard, since the post came from nowhere and did not flow naturally from their or anyone else's progression. It just feels like TMI.iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:29 amsmells unaligned 2 meleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:29 amWhat do you guys think about this post from Dyslexicon? It kind of came out of nowhere, especially considering they hadn't voiced suspicion of either slot up to that point, and the posts leading up to it don't elucidate it any furtherDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:53 pm Maybe this is the game Jimmay and Sloonmeister finally landed mafia together. We can only hope.
Yeah, you're gonna have to try harder than that. My post restriction's twice as strict as yours, y'knowEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:30 amwall post wolfleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:21 am List of people from least suspicious to most suspicious:
ilario - Mod-confirmed town to me
Marmot - Strong claim, doubt mafia would take responsibility for settling ties rather than keeping it hidden
cassandra - Good progression, good-looking EoD
Lime Coke - Same reasons as cassandra
falcon45ca - Is only scum if Mac is also, and probably not even then
anne - Not sure why people are still suspecting her, only way she's scum is if Wilgy and Axehole are also scum otherwise Jay would have no reason to bus
MacDougall - Good-looking interactions with Jay, Mac's a good enough player that he can fake them though. Still, I think the claim is more likely town than not.
iaafr - A bit all over the place at EoD, I have mixed feelings about him jumping off Jay's wagon, but there's still a lot of reasons to townread him
staypositivefriend - Probably my least confident of my town reads, she's towny but nothing that's lock town and is a little hedgy for my liking
NotAnAxehole - Jay seemed unconcerned with the possibility of him dying and 640 seems too obvious for a w/w interaction. Still, I'm not a fan of how he voted JJJ at last minute while previously saying he wouldn't vote Jay.
DrWilgy - Like Axehole, Jay seemed unconcerned with the possibility of him dying, and I can kind of see why MR would be a good shot from a town perspective. Still, there's nothing in his ISO that's particularly towny.
Sloonei/whoever his replacement is - Largely here due to PoE and a couple of Jay interactions that look not the best,
Dyslexicon - Many posts that look scummy in hindsight, 1035 is a noticeable example, bad Jay interactions
nutella - Showed same hedginess of Jay, scummy defense of Jay, last post before EoD was particularly scummy, seriously I would be shocked if this doesn't flip wolf.
Also, can someone who suspects anne tell me why they think JJJ would bus her? Also, what do you make of JJJ's hedginess the last time he was in thread, do you think he would have acted the same way if he thought that there was a considerable risk that one of his teammates would have gone down?
And even if his stance on anne was noncommittal, it was still the closest thing to a suspect he posted in like the entire thread
I would just like to ask why you felt the need to do this
They would have had 5 hours at most to read the thread after it was announced though. That post is still weird.
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:49 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:48 amidk read nutellas iso and control f jay in the middle pagesEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:46 amnutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:25 am Lime ngl I don't blame you for thinking my d1 was weak, I'm playing more low key than usual due to rl stuff, and on that note I will be flying home tomorrow and will be quite sparse
Still it should be clear that I'm uninformed and jumping between reads organicallywhats up with this though
to me it reads like somebody thinking everybody finding jay off was within the tolerance for his recent towngame meta and overcorrecting
like she said
as opposed to a scum partner trying to powerwolf jay out of contention
this exactly yes
i could explain my history with reading jay if i have time but this is the gist
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:50 am
my own nutella townread is a giant bait on myself though because i dont get the vibe im capable of convincing people and i get the vibe nutella might be able to play herself out if town etc
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:52 am
at the risk of sounding hedgy, that's where i'm landing as well. t's worth noting that jagged didn't really do anything to concentrate suspicion toward anne at any point throughout d1 - his choice to join the anne wagon was entirely reactive and entirely based on the rest of the thread making her a viable option.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:47 ami had that thought overnight but it also depends on wilgy i think. but then marmot posted about how pure the wagon was and im not sure we can draw a form conclusion either waystaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:43 am@nutella - can you expand on the bolded please? there was a completely immovable and stubborn wagon on anne that remained static in spite of how chaotic the EOD1 got, and this gave me the impression that anne was the designated d1 mischop. i dont think this read holds up to logical scrutiny and i actually think it's entirely possible anne is mafia, but im curious why you think that the wagon movement points to her being a wolf when i think on a surface level, it looks like the oppositenutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:14 amWagons, movement and composition like marmot said, other ppl are townierLime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:11 amWhy? Literally explain why.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:11 amBc Anne is also maf obvNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:02 am @ilario voting the deciding vote against mafia is a bad play tbh. I have no reason to move from Anne to JJJ if I'm on his team.
Idk I think axe's last minute vote on Jay is an awkward bus regardless of anne's alignment, but it's possible she has a stronger role
in a world where anne/wilgy are both wolves, jagged would be inbetween a rock and a hard place and would be incentivized to bus his partner that did not have a free vig shot. in a world where anne/wilgy are W/T, i could see jagged deciding to bus anne and hoping that he would get enough towncred from her flip to re-establish his position in the thread. in a world where anne/wilgy are T/W, jagged would also be incentivized to vote for anne and protect his partner with a vig shot. in a world where anne/wilgy are T/T, i could see jagged perceiving wilgy as more likely to go over, and trying to look more "pure" by staying on the wagon that didnt flip
what im saying is that jagged's vote on anne would make strategic sense from his point of view regardless of anne's alignment, so i don't think jagged's vote on anne is alignment indicative for her in either direction. so, if we put that off the table, why is anne mafia? why do you scumread her?
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:52 am
But the thing is both you and Jay felt off the same way by being much hedgier than your normal selves. Why were you like that at EoD? And more importantly,nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:49 amiaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:48 amidk read nutellas iso and control f jay in the middle pagesEsooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:46 amnutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:25 am Lime ngl I don't blame you for thinking my d1 was weak, I'm playing more low key than usual due to rl stuff, and on that note I will be flying home tomorrow and will be quite sparse
Still it should be clear that I'm uninformed and jumping between reads organicallywhats up with this though
to me it reads like somebody thinking everybody finding jay off was within the tolerance for his recent towngame meta and overcorrecting
like she said
as opposed to a scum partner trying to powerwolf jay out of contention
this exactly yes
i could explain my history with reading jay if i have time but this is the gist
Why is this the only thing you had to say at EoD, without even changing your vote?
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:53 am
leetic, aren't you in a chat w/illario? ask him
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:53 am
if jay had stated trs on wilgy and naa then ofc he'd want to appear consistent with that so
he also wasnt here at eod anyway and his vote timing is important, maybe he didn't expect anne to be super at risk of going over
he also wasnt here at eod anyway and his vote timing is important, maybe he didn't expect anne to be super at risk of going over
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:53 am
esooa's posts seem unusually stiff
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:53 am
spf, do u think im sus or no
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:54 am
idk i dont wanna bend over backwards to confbias anne scum, spf had a decent point (though i think they could be w/w lmao)
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:54 am
yea im concerned about esooa more than i am about nutella aorn but meh giving time
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:54 am
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:55 am
no spf is my top townread so i need to know if im going crazy to think its weird random people like nutella think im scum
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:55 am
He actually was pushing Axehole early on but gave up for some reason
Nobody would've blamed him if he went after Axehole or Wilgy since they were both widely scumread, the fact that he didn't tells me that he really didn't care about the possibility of anne dying
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:55 am
no, i think you're town. the way that your suspicion on jagged developed throughout d1 felt incredibly organic to me and like something that you didn't "plan" ahead of time. i also generally think that it's true that you were a major factor in jagged going over on d1, and if you were planning to bus him on d1 and get towncred, i suspect your approach would have been more strategic/less sloppy
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:55 am
@spf bc she dropped off weirdly d1 after expressing discomfort performatively, and did some stuff early that alexa said are wolftells for her
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:56 am
obligatory i hate everybodys association reads but my own (and i hate my own too) post
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