The Syndicate

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:10 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:54 pm What do people think of Turnip Head and Mac?

TH- ????
Mac- civ???

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:11 am I am very bad at doing these and I am not a huge fan, but I am starting to like them, idk I'll try it.
Turnip Head

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:18 pmTurnip Head

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:38 amAnd that was easier to make than I expected. I just copied and pasted Mac's and moved the names around. The colors, I always thought, would be a pain in the rear, but I don't care about consistency so whatever.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:16 amFfs

1 - Poisoned rations (1-shot non-fatal poison)

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:19 am

1 - Poisoned rations (1-shot non-fatal poison)

What does non-fatal poison do?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:19 am

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:16 amFfs

Now that the three of you are outed what do you do?

Do you try to use your indie confirms to shop yourselves to us as wasted lynches making you powerful Persian allies, or do you just side with Greeks. What would I do?

I'd probably side with the Persians, because otherwise the Persians will just kill you all because you're too dangerous as civs with all your gathered role abilities.

So we have to lynch you all.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:19 am

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:16 amFfs

Now that the three of you are outed what do you do?

Do you try to use your indie confirms to shop yourselves to us as wasted lynches making you powerful Persian allies, or do you just side with Greeks. What would I do?

I'd probably side with the Persians, because otherwise the Persians will just kill you all because you're too dangerous as civs with all your gathered role abilities.

So we have to lynch you all.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:21 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:19 am

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:16 amFfs

Now that the three of you are outed what do you do?

Do you try to use your indie confirms to shop yourselves to us as wasted lynches making you powerful Persian allies, or do you just side with Greeks. What would I do?

I'd probably side with the Persians, because otherwise the Persians will just kill you all because you're too dangerous as civs with all your gathered role abilities.

So we have to lynch you all.

it's like a self fulfilling prophecy

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:22 am I just inadvertently totally fucked us by outing them.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:20 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:19 am

1 - Poisoned rations (1-shot non-fatal poison)

What does non-fatal poison do?

I have seen poison act as a silencer and as a curse in past games. Insanification perhaps.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:22 am I just inadvertently totally fucked us by outing them.

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:24 am Why did Mac say the quiet part loud?

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:24 am Why did Mac say the quiet part loud?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:20 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:19 am

1 - Poisoned rations (1-shot non-fatal poison)

What does non-fatal poison do?

I have seen poison act as a silencer and as a curse in past games. Insanification perhaps.

The perfect Mafia game poison is getting an increasing cumulative vote every day.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:21 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:19 am

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:16 amFfs

Now that the three of you are outed what do you do?

Do you try to use your indie confirms to shop yourselves to us as wasted lynches making you powerful Persian allies, or do you just side with Greeks. What would I do?

I'd probably side with the Persians, because otherwise the Persians will just kill you all because you're too dangerous as civs with all your gathered role abilities.

So we have to lynch you all.

The exact same argument I made AT LENGTH BUT NO ONE GAVE A DAMN when Epignosis was the "Indy who could choose a side" in Mass Effect. Same logic, that if they don't join the Persians then the Persians have to kill them, therefore they will join the Persians.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:20 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:19 am

1 - Poisoned rations (1-shot non-fatal poison)

What does non-fatal poison do?

I have seen poison act as a silencer and as a curse in past games. Insanification perhaps.

The perfect Mafia game poison is getting an increasing cumulative vote every day.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:46 am

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Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:07 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:11 am Oh, whoops. Keep forgetting these vote tag things.

[VOTE: VOTE: JACKOFHEARTS2005] aubergine

I think your choice to move is daft. You probably caught a bad guy and felt manipulated out of the vote.

My preference for a vote is Sloonei or LC. I think they both are stronger cases than Colin, but Colin is also a good case.

Sloonei and Long Con.

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Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:13 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:07 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:05 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:34 am I just cannot fathom this behavior. What even is this?

It is baddie LC. I feel very confident in it. I've been in disputes like this with LC when I've correctly called him out before.

I'm in for voting LC. I suspected him on day one. With everyone's suspicions, why is no one voting him yet? [VOTE: LongCon] aubergine

I most prefer a sloonei vote right now which is where I sit.

Sloonei before Long Con.

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Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:40 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:36 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:34 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:30 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:22 pm LC 'I'll call people out for making a statement about me, but it's a waste of time for me to demonstrate they are wrong'.

I don't believe that me finding a game or two when I was Civ and you thought I was bad is going to change anything. I don't have time to go delving into the Museum of Mafioso just so you can stick to your guns.

I don't either, because a 'game or two' is certainly insufficient to demonstrate that 'I'm wrong about you far more than I am right'. It just demonstrated I'm not always right.

I'll cop to that for free. I wasn't playing in the GoC, but if I was, I wouldn't have been calling you out as bad before your slip. I never claim to be always right about you. I'm not even always right about MP, and I read him right nearly every time. But to suggest I don't read you well, generally speaking, is an untruthful suggestion.

I hear what you're saying, but right here, right now, really flies in the face of that belief.

Well we'll see about that. I've always said I need three or four full days to get a handle on you, I haven't had that yet, who knows where I'll be then. I do admit I can see both sides of this one. You are doing some stuff that looks very much like your baddie self, but I'm not going to pretend my opinion is impregnable. You fit least well in to my team of four, and there are aspects of your play that remind me of genuinely frustrated town LC.

If sloonei was lynched and came back bad, I'd certainly have other fish to fry before I came back to you.

Probably not Long Con after Sloonei.

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Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:43 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:36 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:07 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:11 am Oh, whoops. Keep forgetting these vote tag things.

[VOTE: VOTE: JACKOFHEARTS2005] aubergine

I think your choice to move is daft. You probably caught a bad guy and felt manipulated out of the vote.

My preference for a vote is Sloonei or LC. I think they both are stronger cases than Colin, but Colin is also a good case.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time that happened to me. I'm thinking it over.

Explain your thoughts on Colin to me; I'm not totally seeing it.

Weak, poorly explained vote at deadline.
Hasn't defended it well.
Sloonei/colin/luna team fits in particular

What did you think about my 'theory of the game' post?

Lo- oh nvm.

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Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:04 am

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:38 pm Golden, GTH, is LC bad?

Yep. Give me a harder one.

In all fairness my flag is a small flag, but my eye is firmly on him.

Long Con, didn't make the above list.

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Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:11 am Sloonei
Colin
LC
Luna (changed read for me)

These four read quite team-compatible to me. Lots of links between their behaviours that could make sense. I’ll elaborate when I get time but generally pressed for time on long explanations right now - but anyone else who feels like grabbing the ball, I think this is a good set of four to examine in the collective.

Long Con, made the list.



also this freaked me out what the HELL

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:57 pm Quin

Hi man

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:25 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:22 am I just inadvertently totally fucked us by outing them.

Would the Persians have come to these conclusions on their own without you?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:27 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:20 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:19 am

1 - Poisoned rations (1-shot non-fatal poison)

What does non-fatal poison do?

I have seen poison act as a silencer and as a curse in past games. Insanification perhaps.

The perfect Mafia game poison is getting an increasing cumulative vote every day.

Yes and you have to walk halfway across a treacherous map to get the cure amirite

YESSSSSSSSSSSS! Maybe if I had voted in the Upcoming Games poll, we'd be playing A World Asunder right now...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:25 am Best course of action is to assume and hope I am wrong.

Either way we need to lynch Persian today so the Persian faction isn't the easy choice to join.

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:28 am I say we still lynch Collin.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:06 am

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:05 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:01 am

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:58 am For example, right now, they look highly compatible as teammates.

I would love a bit of an explanation here.

MP and LC have a heated argument, spilling over from my interaction with LC. It lasts for a half hour and then both suddenly drop the hostilities and keep their votes on each other. Neither will get lynched today

I love your brain.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:06 am

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:05 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:01 am

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:58 am For example, right now, they look highly compatible as teammates.

I would love a bit of an explanation here.

MP and LC have a heated argument, spilling over from my interaction with LC. It lasts for a half hour and then both suddenly drop the hostilities and keep their votes on each other. Neither will get lynched today

I love your brain.

Agreed. This is beautiful.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:31 am He explained that he wanted to lynch Colin. That's the plan.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:31 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:06 am

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:05 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:01 am

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:58 am For example, right now, they look highly compatible as teammates.

I would love a bit of an explanation here.

MP and LC have a heated argument, spilling over from my interaction with LC. It lasts for a half hour and then both suddenly drop the hostilities and keep their votes on each other. Neither will get lynched today

I love your brain.

Agreed. This is beautiful.

Also, MP said he was moving his vote to Jack, but didn't.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:29 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:25 am Best course of action is to assume and hope I am wrong.

Either way we need to lynch Persian today so the Persian faction isn't the easy choice to join.

Rest assured you are fine
Can you explain the plan regarding people piling on the Colin lynch? You mentioned this earlier and I don't recall seeing you explain it to me. I just assumed you knew what you were doing

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:31 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:06 am

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:05 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:01 am

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:58 am For example, right now, they look highly compatible as teammates.

I would love a bit of an explanation here.

MP and LC have a heated argument, spilling over from my interaction with LC. It lasts for a half hour and then both suddenly drop the hostilities and keep their votes on each other. Neither will get lynched today

I love your brain.

Agreed. This is beautiful.

Also, MP said he was moving his vote to Jack, but didn't.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:12 am Oh lol
I think Colin's team simply doesn't have the energy or motivation to try and dig him out of the wagon pit without doing something brash tbh.
The longer this game has gone on the less I dislike Slooneis play. Not that I necessarily LIKE it more, but it's shifted itself away from a gut read scum to a somewhat educated null (maybe leaning scum slightly?)
I don't really know if I can soundly say I think Quin is maybe a scum because they mentioned that they had limited time and were behind and catching up (They may just be responding as they go?)
Long Con: is this you

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:35 am tl;dr if Sloonei is Mafia and Wolbre is town, this is all your fault Wolbre. We might only get one shot to lynch a Sloonei and you were his voice in the wilderness.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:36 am

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:12 am Oh lol
I think Colin's team simply doesn't have the energy or motivation to try and dig him out of the wagon pit without doing something brash tbh.
The longer this game has gone on the less I dislike Slooneis play. Not that I necessarily LIKE it more, but it's shifted itself away from a gut read scum to a somewhat educated null (maybe leaning scum slightly?)
I don't really know if I can soundly say I think Quin is maybe a scum because they mentioned that they had limited time and were behind and catching up (They may just be responding as they go?)
Long Con: is this you

My mild scumread of wolbre continues to diminish the more I read this person.

Quin subbed in less than 48 hours ago, so I think that's why he's behind.

Sloonei is an excellent mafia player who will own you soul if you aren't careful.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:31 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:06 am

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:05 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:01 am

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:58 am For example, right now, they look highly compatible as teammates.

I would love a bit of an explanation here.

MP and LC have a heated argument, spilling over from my interaction with LC. It lasts for a half hour and then both suddenly drop the hostilities and keep their votes on each other. Neither will get lynched today

I love your brain.

Agreed. This is beautiful.

Also, MP said he was moving his vote to Jack, but didn't.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:35 am tl;dr if Sloonei is Mafia and Wolbre is town, this is all your fault Wolbre. We might only get one shot to lynch a Sloonei and you were his voice in the wilderness.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:39 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:31 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:06 am

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:05 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:01 am

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:58 am For example, right now, they look highly compatible as teammates.

I would love a bit of an explanation here.

MP and LC have a heated argument, spilling over from my interaction with LC. It lasts for a half hour and then both suddenly drop the hostilities and keep their votes on each other. Neither will get lynched today

I love your brain.

Agreed. This is beautiful.

Also, MP said he was moving his vote to Jack, but didn't.

A neat segue.

I have Jack, Kyle, Spacedaisy and Speedchuck as null. Spacedaisy gets a birthday pass (not for much longer). Very strange for that remaining trio wouldn't you say? I can't point at anything but my overall feeling towards them all is that they are:

a) Not their usual selves
b) Flying under le radar
c) Very nice boys

@Dom @Marmot @wolbre04 would also like your thoughts. And anyone else obviously.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:58 pm I'll move my vote back to LC for now. Before I left I was afraid I was unfairly tunneling him, but having returned to all of this and seen subsequent posts from him, I don't think I was. What is bugging me right now actually is this post, which LC made right after I left earlier today. What bothers me about it is specifically the second section the most, where he simultaneously is backtracking on me but also doubling down on his perspective that I'm strawmanning. It reads inorganic and forced, like LC's trying to still be consistent in his suspicion of me (which mafia tend to do) while also putting his foot off the brakes a bit.

[VOTE: LONG CON] aubergine

I'd still like to engage with Jack though.

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:38 am Did MP tell LC in BTSC that he would change his vote?