The Syndicate

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:53 am I am awake but haven't started looking at individual people yet. I echo the thoughts about Martin, I feel bad for him because my vote there is based on Guillo's behavior and there is nothing he can do about that. I'm still happy with my vote there at this point.

My worst fear is that LC or even Epi could be bad. I've played with them both for years and I know how tricky they are to read. I didn't see Epi say how he felt about LC - did anyone else see that? I'm not wild about Epi's vote as I look at it this morning, it feels OMGUS. I will take a look at Sean today but like I said yesterday as he has posted I've felt good about him.

I'll be in and out today a good bit and should be here at EOD. Don't forget all, EOD is before 6, it's like 5:47 pm est.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:56 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:17 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:15 am I'm /very/ concerned that this game is going to go like abdimals did where the chops all seem predestined and largely on obvious townies who need to be chopped to rid the poe of them

do you think martin is an obvious townie? or who would you chop instead? you’re voting long con. can you talk to me about that?

I sorta empathize with martin's position. it's very easy for me to think of him as town. I don't think he is for sure, there are a whole lot of reasons to think otherwise in this gamestate. I think Long Con is a bit of a weird case. He's generally on target, but seems to me like the most likely wolf outside of the martin/mr duo. Just seems like the best vote for me to try to keep the game from staying stuck.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:43 am Just glancing at your Day 2 posts... just looking for an opinion or some substance

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:47 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:43 am Just glancing at your Day 2 posts... just looking for an opinion or some substance

Tell me if you find anything

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:51 am Stance is my middle name this game. Normally it's mayhem

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:25 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:56 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:17 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:15 am I'm /very/ concerned that this game is going to go like abdimals did where the chops all seem predestined and largely on obvious townies who need to be chopped to rid the poe of them

do you think martin is an obvious townie? or who would you chop instead? you’re voting long con. can you talk to me about that?

I sorta empathize with martin's position. it's very easy for me to think of him as town. I don't think he is for sure, there are a whole lot of reasons to think otherwise in this gamestate. I think Long Con is a bit of a weird case. He's generally on target, but seems to me like the most likely wolf outside of the martin/mr duo. Just seems like the best vote for me to try to keep the game from staying stuck.

Chopping me, while often a fun pasttime, will not do anything to "unstick" the gamestate.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:40 pm Why does LC have a vote (looking at you TSP)

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:02 am How am I a status quo defender?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:45 pm if Martin doesn’t show up and solve the game here I’m voting for him

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:17 pm LC and MR haven't voted yet and I don't particularly like that.

It also looks like LC is the only one who seems to agree with me about Epi, and one of my strong townreads has discouraged me there, so I'mma drop it for now since it doesn't look viable. I'm watching you though Epi!

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:19 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:02 am How am I a status quo defender?

well tony being in the poe is the status quo. i’ve been trying to take him out and you’ve been trying to prevent him from being cleared, meaning that in that sense at least you’re defending the status quo

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:23 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:17 pm LC and MR haven't voted yet and I don't particularly like that.

It also looks like LC is the only one who seems to agree with me about Epi, and one of my strong townreads has discouraged me there, so I'mma drop it for now since it doesn't look viable. I'm watching you though Epi!

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

What am I, chopped Marmot?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:25 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:19 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:02 am How am I a status quo defender?

well tony being in the poe is the status quo. i’ve been trying to take him out and you’ve been trying to prevent him from being cleared, meaning that in that sense at least you’re defending the status quo

I thought the current status quo was that Tony is likely town due to assumption of being vig. I do know that the very popular tutuu has been aggressively ignoring that factor due to her (probably wise) insistence that we ignore mechanical factors due to the likelihood of getting tricked by unknown factors.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:26 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:23 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:17 pm LC and MR haven't voted yet and I don't particularly like that.

It also looks like LC is the only one who seems to agree with me about Epi, and one of my strong townreads has discouraged me there, so I'mma drop it for now since it doesn't look viable. I'm watching you though Epi!

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

What am I, chopped Marmot?

You are pushing Epi as town. That would be a disagreement.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:27 pm lc, why aren’t you voting anyone? who’s bad? who’s good? i feel like most of your posts don’t really lead anywhere atm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:29 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:27 pm lc, why aren’t you voting anyone? who’s bad? who’s good? i feel like most of your posts don’t really lead anywhere atm

I went to vote and then saw the state of the poll. I don't feel like my vote would do much to the situation. I think a Martin yeet is probably good, I would vote for Radish or Epi as well.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:29 pm Nooo, I made a case why I think he's teammate compatible with Made and voted him earlier today lol

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:31 pm what’s the case on epi again? just that he voted made without explaining it? and that makes them teammate compatible?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:31 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:29 pm Nooo, I made a case why I think he's teammate compatible with Made and voted him earlier today lol

Sorry, I forgot about that. It is early and I have not had enough coffee yet.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:29 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:26 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:23 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:17 pm LC and MR haven't voted yet and I don't particularly like that.

It also looks like LC is the only one who seems to agree with me about Epi, and one of my strong townreads has discouraged me there, so I'mma drop it for now since it doesn't look viable. I'm watching you though Epi!

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

What am I, chopped Marmot?

You are pushing Epi as town. That would be a disagreement.

why is epi not town? you say he’s not a busser, but you think this time was the exception?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:29 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:27 pm lc, why aren’t you voting anyone? who’s bad? who’s good? i feel like most of your posts don’t really lead anywhere atm

I went to vote and then saw the state of the poll. I don't feel like my vote would do much to the situation. I think a Martin yeet is probably good, I would vote for Radish or Epi as well.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:33 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:31 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:29 pm Nooo, I made a case why I think he's teammate compatible with Made and voted him earlier today lol

Sorry, I forgot about that. It is early and I have not had enough coffee yet.

oh god

oh no

please tell me i’m not seeing this

is this an honest to goodness coffee tell?!

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:33 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:31 pm what’s the case on epi again? just that he voted made without explaining it? and that makes them teammate compatible?

All of his other interactions with Made were fluffy and devoid of game-related content

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:31 pm what’s the case on epi again? just that he voted made without explaining it? and that makes them teammate compatible?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:35 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:29 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:26 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:23 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:17 pm LC and MR haven't voted yet and I don't particularly like that.

It also looks like LC is the only one who seems to agree with me about Epi, and one of my strong townreads has discouraged me there, so I'mma drop it for now since it doesn't look viable. I'm watching you though Epi!

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

What am I, chopped Marmot?

You are pushing Epi as town. That would be a disagreement.

why is epi not town? you say he’s not a busser, but you think this time was the exception?

There are a few exceptions, so this wouldn't be *the* exception. When I look at Epi's posts, they're pretty bad, and more than once it's been "oh yeah, but he doesn't like bussing." It's only one factor, not a religion. He's not anti-bussing like Glorfindel is anti-lying. And none of that means Epi never places a final vote on a teammate. Maybe he just didn't expect the Made wagon to take off. Maybe he didn't actually come back online until after the chop. MAybe he did come back at the last minute and thought "it will be very suspicious if I move my vote now!"

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:35 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:29 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:27 pm lc, why aren’t you voting anyone? who’s bad? who’s good? i feel like most of your posts don’t really lead anywhere atm

I went to vote and then saw the state of the poll. I don't feel like my vote would do much to the situation. I think a Martin yeet is probably good, I would vote for Radish or Epi as well.

When did you go to vote? You could have joined me on Epi or voted MR if you didn't want to join the large Martin wagon.

Your vote does even less not on anyone.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:36 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:33 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:31 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:29 pm Nooo, I made a case why I think he's teammate compatible with Made and voted him earlier today lol

Sorry, I forgot about that. It is early and I have not had enough coffee yet.

oh god

oh no

please tell me i’m not seeing this

is this an honest to goodness coffee tell?!

What is a coffee tell, other than me telling you that I am groggy?

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:39 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:35 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:29 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:26 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:23 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:17 pm LC and MR haven't voted yet and I don't particularly like that.

It also looks like LC is the only one who seems to agree with me about Epi, and one of my strong townreads has discouraged me there, so I'mma drop it for now since it doesn't look viable. I'm watching you though Epi!

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

What am I, chopped Marmot?

You are pushing Epi as town. That would be a disagreement.

why is epi not town? you say he’s not a busser, but you think this time was the exception?

There are a few exceptions, so this wouldn't be *the* exception. When I look at Epi's posts, they're pretty bad, and more than once it's been "oh yeah, but he doesn't like bussing." It's only one factor, not a religion. He's not anti-bussing like Glorfindel is anti-lying. And none of that means Epi never places a final vote on a teammate. Maybe he just didn't expect the Made wagon to take off. Maybe he didn't actually come back online until after the chop. MAybe he did come back at the last minute and thought "it will be very suspicious if I move my vote now!"

why are epi’s posts bad? what’s bad about them? i feel like i’m not seeing it because to me they seem like standard town!epi posts. am i missing something?