The Syndicate

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:26 am k

vote sprityo aubergine

I think Boomslang looks fine. Cbob would be my next choice, but I don’t feel educated enough

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:26 am k

vote sprityo aubergine

I think Boomslang looks fine. Cbob would be my next choice, but I don’t feel educated enough

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:42 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:26 am k

vote sprityo aubergine

I think Boomslang looks fine. Cbob would be my next choice, but I don’t feel educated enough

Can you explain why? A look through your posts doesn't do so.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:14 pm What team is sprityo hypothetically a member of?

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:36 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:14 pm What team is sprityo hypothetically a member of?

That’s a great question figuring I’ve voted to lynch every single member of the mafia we’ve lynched

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:57 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:36 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:14 pm What team is sprityo hypothetically a member of?

That’s a great question figuring I’ve voted to lynch every single member of the mafia we’ve lynched

And you were presumably killee by the evens.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:57 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:36 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:14 pm What team is sprityo hypothetically a member of?

That’s a great question figuring I’ve voted to lynch every single member of the mafia we’ve lynched

And you were presumably killee by the evens.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:37 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:57 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:36 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:14 pm What team is sprityo hypothetically a member of?

That’s a great question figuring I’ve voted to lynch every single member of the mafia we’ve lynched

And you were presumably killee by the evens.

FWIW the current "sprityo is bad" theory I think is reasonable is sprit1.0 was civ, gets killed, turns mafia on second life.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:36 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:14 pm What team is sprityo hypothetically a member of?

That’s a great question figuring I’ve voted to lynch every single member of the mafia we’ve lynched

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:18 pm What evidence is there that sprit turned even?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:02 pm @S~V~S what do you currently think of me?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:29 pm colonialbob I’m looking through your iso of the merge, and you seem pretty indignant about refrigerator maybe being Bad on day 9 and again a few cycles later- what evidence do you see of that? Because everything I’m seeing reads the opposite.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:38 pm Im just gonna try to post this once a phase until I die or the hosts put up a comparable list on the front page, cuz my memory ain’t what it used to be and it's a pain to search for this shit. I’ll do this one with only the facts as we know it:

DEATHS:

Color key:
Out of game, mafia team Evil Evens
Out of game, mafia team Strexcorp
Out of game, Civilian
Out of game, alignment unknown

D1 - Quin (no lynch) (link)
N1 - nijuu (link)
D2 - speedchuck (link)
N2 - Scotty (link)
D3 - nutella (changed from DDL) (link)
N3 - JackofHearts (link)
insertnamehere dies (link)
D4 - Long Con (link)
N4 - No kill (link)
D5 - Long Con (link)
N5 - Sig (link)
D6 - Colonialbob (link)
N6 - SVS (link)
D7 - Marmot (link)

BUTTON

N7 - JackofHearts (link)
Nutella dies (link)
D8 - Marmot (link)
N8 - Sprityo (link)
LoRab Dies (link)

MERGE

D9 - Wilgy (link)
N9 - DharmaHelper (link)
D10 - speedchuck (link)
N10 - No kill (link)
D11- Wilgy (link)
N11 - Dharma Helper (link)
D12 - sig (link)
N12 - Quin (link)
D13 - Lorab link
N13- No kill (link)

—————————————————————————

Current Lives Left (as of D14)

Boomslang - 2
colonialbob - 1
Dom - 2
Dragon D Luffy - 2
Epignosis - 2
insertnamehere - 1
Kylemii - 2
Nijuu - 1
Quin - 1
Scotty - 1
Sloonei - 2
SpaceDaisy - 2
sprityo - 1
SVS - 1

Revealed Roles

Speedchuck's role reveal during Day 7 - link
Blooper's role reveal during Day 12 - link

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:18 pm What evidence is there that sprit turned even?

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:21 am
*throws hands into air* you people.

I’ll be back later when you’ve regained your clarity

You could save me the process of having to participate if you want to pursue silly avenues such as this. But that’d be a waste

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:53 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:21 am
*throws hands into air* you people.

I’ll be back later when you’ve regained your clarity

You could save me the process of having to participate if you want to pursue silly avenues such as this. But that’d be a waste

This post feels like one aimed at shaming someone into backing off,it is very manipulative, and while civs can be manipulative, this doesn't feel that way.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:45 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:29 pm colonialbob I’m looking through your iso of the merge, and you seem pretty indignant about refrigerator maybe being Bad on day 9 and again a few cycles later- what evidence do you see of that? Because everything I’m seeing reads the opposite.

I would say I was more indignant about nobody responding to my question. I can see his targeting as mafia (psuedo-silencing SVS, protecting Kyle when he's getting attention) but it's not definitive and I don't have bad feels about Dom or Epi apart from that. Nobody else responded to it, so I've dropped it.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:53 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:18 pm What evidence is there that sprit turned even?

Let me ask you a question, Sloonei (and anyone who knows Slooneis game better than I, feel free to chime in ~it's been a while since I really played with him).

Do you ALWAYS require specific evidence of a thing in addition to thread based leads? Like what evidence could there be that a person turned even after first death? This is not the first time this game you have said something of this nature, and I find it somewhat odd. I don't recall you doing so in the past, but it could well be that I am just not remembering well.

I find both sprit and Bob changed from first life, sprit more so. But I am having a hard time putting my finger on it. And when I poked sprit about it a bit, he almost hissed at me.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:21 am
*throws hands into air* you people.

I’ll be back later when you’ve regained your clarity

You could save me the process of having to participate if you want to pursue silly avenues such as this. But that’d be a waste

This post feels like one aimed at shaming someone into backing off,it is very manipulative, and while civs can be manipulative, this doesn't feel that way.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:55 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:53 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:21 am
*throws hands into air* you people.

I’ll be back later when you’ve regained your clarity

You could save me the process of having to participate if you want to pursue silly avenues such as this. But that’d be a waste

This post feels like one aimed at shaming someone into backing off,it is very manipulative, and while civs can be manipulative, this doesn't feel that way.

then do it, if it looks bad to you, then vote. its that simple svs.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:01 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:53 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:18 pm What evidence is there that sprit turned even?

Let me ask you a question, Sloonei (and anyone who knows Slooneis game better than I, feel free to chime in ~it's been a while since I really played with him).

Do you ALWAYS require specific evidence of a thing in addition to thread based leads? Like what evidence could there be that a person turned even after first death? This is not the first time this game you have said something of this nature, and I find it somewhat odd. I don't recall you doing so in the past, but it could well be that I am just not remembering well.

I find both sprit and Bob changed from first life, sprit more so. But I am having a hard time putting my finger on it. And when I poked sprit about it a bit, he almost hissed at me.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:21 am
*throws hands into air* you people.

I’ll be back later when you’ve regained your clarity

You could save me the process of having to participate if you want to pursue silly avenues such as this. But that’d be a waste

This post feels like one aimed at shaming someone into backing off,it is very manipulative, and while civs can be manipulative, this doesn't feel that way.

I like for the conversation to be as comprehensive as possible. If we're accusing sprityo of having changed alignments, or Boomslang of being Even, or anything else, I'd like for there to be substantive conversation attached, rather than baseless accusation.

It's typical of me, I think. I like to drag the thread down into painstaking monotony and make sure all possible information is clearly stated.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:06 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:01 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:53 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:18 pm What evidence is there that sprit turned even?

Let me ask you a question, Sloonei (and anyone who knows Slooneis game better than I, feel free to chime in ~it's been a while since I really played with him).

Do you ALWAYS require specific evidence of a thing in addition to thread based leads? Like what evidence could there be that a person turned even after first death? This is not the first time this game you have said something of this nature, and I find it somewhat odd. I don't recall you doing so in the past, but it could well be that I am just not remembering well.

I find both sprit and Bob changed from first life, sprit more so. But I am having a hard time putting my finger on it. And when I poked sprit about it a bit, he almost hissed at me.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:21 am
*throws hands into air* you people.

I’ll be back later when you’ve regained your clarity

You could save me the process of having to participate if you want to pursue silly avenues such as this. But that’d be a waste

This post feels like one aimed at shaming someone into backing off,it is very manipulative, and while civs can be manipulative, this doesn't feel that way.

I like for the conversation to be as comprehensive as possible. If we're accusing sprityo of having changed alignments, or Boomslang of being Even, or anything else, I'd like for there to be substantive conversation attached, rather than baseless accusation.

It's typical of me, I think. I like to drag the thread down into painstaking monotony and make sure all possible information is clearly stated.

So what would you consider evidence of changing allegiances other than a change in gameplay? That's the best way to catch a recruit (not sure if recruitment or cults were common at RYM? They were fairly common in Goldens and Juliets Mafia background), to look for people who have changed. And there is even a signal for the start of the recruitment, first death. So someone who is different in demeanor starting at first death, would you not consider that a potential tell?

If we catch the third (and last probably) original Even, how do you propose we catch recruits?

And I am not saying I suspect him per se. I am just trying to suss things out.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:11 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:45 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:25 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:42 pm [VOTE: Lorab] aubergine

What do you think of the delay in pushing the button?

I don't care about it.

What do you think about Lorab?

No reason to townread her, but I need to go check out the context you mentioned to see what I think. I also think I'd rather lynch into Sloonei/Kyle/Scotty today.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:21 pm Sorry everybody. 5-6 pm deadlines are really tough for me to deal with honestly. I meant to look into some cases, but didn't have the time today. Tomorrow looks busy too. Wish I was playing better this game.

I might be better off responding to specific questions vs trying to dig through isos and make all my own cases.

Re: Cerberus Tribe - Day 5
#1153 Post by Jackofhearts2005 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:09:12 pmi

I will not chill. Straw man arguments (intentional or not) make it easy to dismiss what I’m saying because what I’m not saying sounds so silly.

I will not be silenced. I will scumread anyone who tries.

I agree with you that we should lynch suspects. We should lynch them until they are dead. We should not make selective guesses (for some players, not for others) about first roles meaning certain alignments. We should lynch suspects until they flip, which will eliminate mafia or at least learn something, unlike wishy washy first role only lynches, which do nothing to help the town.

Re: Cerberus Tribe - Night 5
#1192 Post by insertnamehere » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:14:00 pm
okay what the fuck

did eight people vote for LC on the other tribe?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:54 pm First reaction post to LC being lynched as a baddie:

Re: Cerberus Tribe - Night 5
#1192 Post by insertnamehere » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:14:00 pm
okay what the fuck

did eight people vote for LC on the other tribe?

Um dude he was bad?

Yeah, Scotty, I still don't feel great about you. But I also revived my suspish of INH. Squeee.

I will reread post death sprit and Bob a bit later. But based on what I read in Cerberus, I would be inclined to vote Boomslang if no one I suspected of recruitment was on the poll. The fact that Boom is a low poster with various levels of suspish throughout the game yet he has not been NKed is intriguing. Plus wasn't the biggest fan of his Cerberus Day 5. Hindsight is a beautiful thing

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:07 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:54 pm First reaction post to LC being lynched as a baddie:

Re: Cerberus Tribe - Night 5
#1192 Post by insertnamehere » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:14:00 pm
okay what the fuck

did eight people vote for LC on the other tribe?

Um dude he was bad?

Yeah, Scotty, I still don't feel great about you. But I also revived my suspish of INH. Squeee.

I will reread post death sprit and Bob a bit later. But based on what I read in Cerberus, I would be inclined to vote Boomslang if no one I suspected of recruitment was on the poll. The fact that Boom is a low poster with various levels of suspish throughout the game yet he has not been NKed is intriguing. Plus wasn't the biggest fan of his Cerberus Day 5. Hindsight is a beautiful thing

If we’re looking at pure voting records, INH has the worst of them.

Also, it’s hypocritical to bring up that quote from jack, who was also adamantly pushing for a lynch on our side during D5 to say I look suspicious as well for doing the same thing

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:16 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:07 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:54 pm First reaction post to LC being lynched as a baddie:

Re: Cerberus Tribe - Night 5
#1192 Post by insertnamehere » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:14:00 pm
okay what the fuck

did eight people vote for LC on the other tribe?

Um dude he was bad?

Yeah, Scotty, I still don't feel great about you. But I also revived my suspish of INH. Squeee.

I will reread post death sprit and Bob a bit later. But based on what I read in Cerberus, I would be inclined to vote Boomslang if no one I suspected of recruitment was on the poll. The fact that Boom is a low poster with various levels of suspish throughout the game yet he has not been NKed is intriguing. Plus wasn't the biggest fan of his Cerberus Day 5. Hindsight is a beautiful thing

If we’re looking at pure voting records, INH has the worst of them.

Also, it’s hypocritical to bring up that quote from jack, who was also adamantly pushing for a lynch on our side during D5 to say I look suspicious as well for doing the same thing

Not as much as you were specifically during that lynch. He said that all the time, lol. But it is possible you were just being manic.

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:30 pm sprityo 1.0 was one of the front-of-mind players for me. He stood out as a player in the game. sprityo 2.0 doesn't feel the same way. I can't tell if there's a bias because of his Cecil confirmation or because there were less people on Pikachu. I'd like the OG Pikachu tribespeople to give some thoughts on that if they have any.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:02 pm @sprityo what was the intention of revealing that you had a bastard role in the first place? Like it literally came out of nowhere

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:02 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:55 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:53 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:21 am
*throws hands into air* you people.

I’ll be back later when you’ve regained your clarity

You could save me the process of having to participate if you want to pursue silly avenues such as this. But that’d be a waste

This post feels like one aimed at shaming someone into backing off,it is very manipulative, and while civs can be manipulative, this doesn't feel that way.

then do it, if it looks bad to you, then vote. its that simple svs.

I am not saying that. I poked you and you got hostile. That is worrisome. So I mentioned it, and now you are getting hostile again. Is hostility your normal response to suspicion?

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:46 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:02 pm @sprityo what was the intention of revealing that you had a bastard role in the first place? Like it literally came out of nowhere

Because it doesn’t help the town in any way shape or form