The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:18 pm @Quin you feel like doing anything yet?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:23 pm sloonei i love you and i haven't given your list the attention it deserves and i'm sorry but who is on it again?

Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:23 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:23 pm sloonei i love you and i haven't given your list the attention it deserves and i'm sorry but who is on it again?

you

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:25 pm Dragon D. Luffy I want to quote a part of your long post on the 5. This is from your Quin summary:

A lot of posts are good stuff. He is hunting. I don't feel him as civ that much after his ISO though. Something about him feels... thuggish I guess. He's making cases but not commiting on them, too. I don't know, Quin is always sarcastic, but when he's a civ there is this feeling of a poor kid who is desperate because people are wanting things from him and he's super lost, so he's trying his best. Here he seems a bit more arrogant, more overconfident.

I felt this was the way Quin was in Hogwarts - confident almost to arrogance. Do you feel like he was different in that game than he is here?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:23 pm sloonei i love you and i haven't given your list the attention it deserves and i'm sorry but who is on it again?

Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:24 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:23 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:23 pm sloonei i love you and i haven't given your list the attention it deserves and i'm sorry but who is on it again?

you

But also Luna, Quin, DDL, G-Man.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:18 pm @Quin you feel like doing anything yet?

probably vote for epi at some point but otherwise no

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:36 pm Folks, change your votes. I didn’t want to out myself so early but fuck it.

Last night I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:36 pm Folks, change your votes. I didn’t want to out myself so early but fuck it.

Last night I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:34 pm Ok I'm 3 pages behind and you guys are already lightspeed posting. I'll have to leave in half an hour. So some quick thoughts.

This Luna wagon is bizarre. I don't get why her being sure about something makes her bad.

I can't believe people are lynching Wilgy again. Then again I can believe it. Not gonna oppose it cuz it's fucking Wilgy. But I prefer Quin.

I usually believe claims because it's hard to fake this stuff, so sprityo is probably legit. The one I'm not sure if I should trust is the lady in the woods. Not feeling the switch to sabie right now, I think I wanna discuss about it longer.

I'm out, if you guys want me to respond to something specific you have 10 minutes to tag me. And don't tag me to ask me to ISO someone.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:40 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:36 pm Folks, change your votes. I didn’t want to out myself so early but fuck it.

Last night I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus.

What? Where?

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:41 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:34 pm Ok I'm 3 pages behind and you guys are already lightspeed posting. I'll have to leave in half an hour. So some quick thoughts.

This Luna wagon is bizarre. I don't get why her being sure about something makes her bad.

I can't believe people are lynching Wilgy again. Then again I can believe it. Not gonna oppose it cuz it's fucking Wilgy. But I prefer Quin.

I usually believe claims because it's hard to fake this stuff, so sprityo is probably legit. The one I'm not sure if I should trust is the lady in the woods. Not feeling the switch to sabie right now, I think I wanna discuss about it longer.

I'm out, if you guys want me to respond to something specific you have 10 minutes to tag me. And don't tag me to ask me to ISO someone.

DDL I don't think there is a Luna wagon. She's only got one vote. I'm most likely to stay where I am and just move her to yellow on the list in my head. My issue is her lack of questioning what the info meant.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:51 pm i went to read back and noticed everyone was hankering for a sig lynch and let me tell you if you do it then i'm quitting mafia forever

i mean if there's more than the use of 'bloodthirsty' when describing SVS as the case against him then be my guest but what i've read makes me want to throw up

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:20 am How disappointing that nutella died. She was a confident town read for me. I'm so glad the Trickster's gone though, and like S~V~S he wasn't even on my radar.

Sorry I did not get to this last night. I talked with llama and mongoose (who haven't been around in ages) until I fell asleep.

I have a somewhat urgent personal situation this morning so I'm going to throw out some reads and talk more about them when I'm home this afternoon.

I have 3 people I'm looking at as potentially bad: Wilgy, sprityo, and G-Man. I have indicated why I'm suspicious of wilgy and sprit, and indicated I had bad feelings about G. Sloonei did a good job of outlining some of the things I could not articulate. I feel bad if G is having a hard time keeping up but it doesn't change my suspicion.

People I'm reading as civ:

S~V~S because she seems like the old civ S~V~S. She's calling things out as she see's them and was not afraid to call out Luna even though she doesn't know her well. She understood what sig was saying with his bloodthirsty post instead of jumping on him for saying that about her. Bad S~V~S wouldn't have been that understanding.

DDL - In UPick DDL started out by doing some things that seemed a little odd or scummy but it turned out he was an indie who was a key component of the civ win. His tone in this game early on reminded me of that game and still does.

Luna - I so often misread her as bad. In this game her tone reminds me of Hogwarts where she was good. There was something in her posts I liked too but I can't remember it right now and don't have time to look back. I will later though.

Quin - his posts are to the point and several times I found myself agreeing with him. This appears to be civ Quin to me. Sloonei I read your synopsis of him this morning and will go back and bump that up against what I've seen because obviously you know his game a lot better than me, but for now I read him as civ.

timmer - In retrospect I like his post about TH. He saw something when the rest of us saw nothing. I liked his post about how much changing Sloonei had done, it really brought it into focus for me. Reads Luna as good which I do too.

Tranq - his explanation about why he said the poll options seemed meaningless was good Imo. He didn't fault DDL for his role alignment post because it's good to think hard about the role alignments in these map games. Voted DrWilgy again showing he was serious about his vote day 1.

There are a lot of people I have mixed reads on right now.

Sloonei, I maybe just don't play with you enough but I'm still bothered by your attempt to lynch me when you knew I wasn't around and wasn't going to be, after I had been around all day. I understand you didn't get to me until 10:40 but if I was bothering you why not look at me sooner? Also, I'm just wary of the rapid mind changing but am trying to accept that as just part of your style.

DH I want to call you civ. Your tone and spiciness make me think civ but you fooled me so bad last game.

Colin and c-bob I'm getting you mixed up. I need to do a back to back iso. I just don't have an opinion right now.

Dana I would love to see some reads from you.

Enrique haven't seen anything particularly bad or good. I probably need to look harder.

INH where are you? Can you provide some reads?

Jack I need to closely read you. There is enough there that I feel like I should have an opinion.

Kyle I have a hard time reading you. Will look more closely

Lorab have you given any reads yet?

Mac you seem like your civ self, and when you're civ your mafia nose is strong so I need to pay some more close attention to your reads. I know you didn't like my Wilgy vote but thats ok. The only reason your not in my civ category is I'm wary of your ability to fool me.

nova, maybe you should be on my potential baddie list. I know nothing about what you think. I remember you posting an emoji but I don't remember anything else. Could you provide some reads please?

sable, so sweet I want to call you civ. I need to see a little more though.

sig - I feel for sig because in discord he said late last week he had 4 projects and 3 finals coming up (this is when I was asking him to play) so I can understand how he could be distracted. I'd like to see some additional behavior though.

sorsha, I need to see more to have an opinion.

speed - not seeing anything particularly bad or good. Need more behavior and I need to ISO you.

Ok I think that's everyone. I can talk more about this this afternoon but right now I have an urgent appointment and then pt so be back sometime mid afternoon.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:03 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:01 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:19 pm Keep an eye on the folks who darted in here early and, in light of the D0 poll result, pooh-poohed ties on the lynch poll. It’s a subtle way to establish a preemptive cop-out for either train-hopping later (to show they stick to their convictions) or blame-shifting to set up fall guys who tie polls that result in mislynches.

Close lynches and ties (whether mid-phase or at EOD) are valuable sources of information. Granted, that information is best in hindsight after the herd has thinned some.

like

We may not know who is on the Tribunal but we’re starting out with more civs than baddies (unless this game is extra-double whacky) and there are also two baddie factions, so the odds are against Tribunal being filled with one baddie team.

what is tribunal?

It adds ninjas to Morrowind.

I’ll be here all week. Don’t forget to tip your waiter.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:47 pm I do think it’s kinda suspect that so many people would dump shit like they have tbh. I dunno if this is tinfoil but I bet there’s a scum counting on reduced risk of nightkill or certain protections amidst the Dumpers.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:49 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:03 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:01 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:19 pm Keep an eye on the folks who darted in here early and, in light of the D0 poll result, pooh-poohed ties on the lynch poll. It’s a subtle way to establish a preemptive cop-out for either train-hopping later (to show they stick to their convictions) or blame-shifting to set up fall guys who tie polls that result in mislynches.

Close lynches and ties (whether mid-phase or at EOD) are valuable sources of information. Granted, that information is best in hindsight after the herd has thinned some.

like

We may not know who is on the Tribunal but we’re starting out with more civs than baddies (unless this game is extra-double whacky) and there are also two baddie factions, so the odds are against Tribunal being filled with one baddie team.

what is tribunal?

It adds ninjas to Morrowind.

I’ll be here all week. Don’t forget to tip your waiter.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:12 pm I really DO like that notification tag. I did not when I first saw it, but it is helpful.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:49 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:47 pm I do think it’s kinda suspect that so many people would dump shit like they have tbh. I dunno if this is tinfoil but I bet there’s a scum counting on reduced risk of nightkill or certain protections amidst the Dumpers.

huh? we've had two dumps as far as I can tell.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:49 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:47 pm I do think it’s kinda suspect that so many people would dump shit like they have tbh. I dunno if this is tinfoil but I bet there’s a scum counting on reduced risk of nightkill or certain protections amidst the Dumpers.

huh? we've had two dumps as far as I can tell.

I’m counting you, Luna, sprit and sabie all as dumpers, using the term loosely. Every one of you said you knew something either explicitly or implicitly.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:56 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:49 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:47 pm I do think it’s kinda suspect that so many people would dump shit like they have tbh. I dunno if this is tinfoil but I bet there’s a scum counting on reduced risk of nightkill or certain protections amidst the Dumpers.

huh? we've had two dumps as far as I can tell.

I’m counting you, Luna, sprit and sabie all as dumpers, using the term loosely. Every one of you said you knew something either explicitly or implicitly.

I see. If one of us is fabricating things, who is it?

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:02 pm Epi, I tried to go back and re-read you but I'm just too tired. Your posts are just floating in front of my eyes. I will look at your ISO tomorrow morning when I' fresh.

I am out in the next 10 minutes or so.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:56 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:49 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:47 pm I do think it’s kinda suspect that so many people would dump shit like they have tbh. I dunno if this is tinfoil but I bet there’s a scum counting on reduced risk of nightkill or certain protections amidst the Dumpers.

huh? we've had two dumps as far as I can tell.

I’m counting you, Luna, sprit and sabie all as dumpers, using the term loosely. Every one of you said you knew something either explicitly or implicitly.

I see. If one of us is fabricating things, who is it?

I think sprit is the most honest seeming. Super weird thing to make up. You and Luna are probably tied for next — Luna’s came after yours and could be a “well, a fake dump isn’t so risky now” kind of move; you, I have reason to believe but nonetheless can’t say I can clear you from that. Sabie’s is most likely to be a reactive “don’t lynch me” move (Luna’s is quite reactive as well, but not to save her own skin.)

Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:08 pm I got a dump for you right here. *squats*

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:12 pm I'm on page 36. Is there anything pressing anybody wants from me while I pause to let my eyeballs stop bleeding? I'll wait ten minutes here and then get back to it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:05 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:56 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:49 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:47 pm I do think it’s kinda suspect that so many people would dump shit like they have tbh. I dunno if this is tinfoil but I bet there’s a scum counting on reduced risk of nightkill or certain protections amidst the Dumpers.

huh? we've had two dumps as far as I can tell.

I’m counting you, Luna, sprit and sabie all as dumpers, using the term loosely. Every one of you said you knew something either explicitly or implicitly.

I see. If one of us is fabricating things, who is it?

I think sprit is the most honest seeming. Super weird thing to make up. You and Luna are probably tied for next — Luna’s came after yours and could be a “well, a fake dump isn’t so risky now” kind of move; you, I have reason to believe but nonetheless can’t say I can clear you from that. Sabie’s is most likely to be a reactive “don’t lynch me” move (Luna’s is quite reactive as well, but not to save her own skin.)

I don't think any of us are lying, for what it's worth. But I also don't think sabie and luna have dumped anything.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:13 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:12 pm I'm on page 36. Is there anything pressing anybody wants from me while I pause to let my eyeballs stop bleeding? I'll wait ten minutes here and then get back to it.

I could use a quick read on both Quin and G-man.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:05 am what's up my name's jared and i never learned how to read

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:17 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:05 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:56 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:49 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:47 pm I do think it’s kinda suspect that so many people would dump shit like they have tbh. I dunno if this is tinfoil but I bet there’s a scum counting on reduced risk of nightkill or certain protections amidst the Dumpers.

huh? we've had two dumps as far as I can tell.

I’m counting you, Luna, sprit and sabie all as dumpers, using the term loosely. Every one of you said you knew something either explicitly or implicitly.

I see. If one of us is fabricating things, who is it?

I think sprit is the most honest seeming. Super weird thing to make up. You and Luna are probably tied for next — Luna’s came after yours and could be a “well, a fake dump isn’t so risky now” kind of move; you, I have reason to believe but nonetheless can’t say I can clear you from that. Sabie’s is most likely to be a reactive “don’t lynch me” move (Luna’s is quite reactive as well, but not to save her own skin.)

I don't think any of us are lying, for what it's worth. But I also don't think sabie and luna have dumped anything.

Luna supposedly mechanically cleared G-Man; Sabie is allegedly mechanically incriminating Wilgy. That’s what I’m referring to if it wasn’t clear.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:17 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:05 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:56 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:49 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:47 pm I do think it’s kinda suspect that so many people would dump shit like they have tbh. I dunno if this is tinfoil but I bet there’s a scum counting on reduced risk of nightkill or certain protections amidst the Dumpers.

huh? we've had two dumps as far as I can tell.

I’m counting you, Luna, sprit and sabie all as dumpers, using the term loosely. Every one of you said you knew something either explicitly or implicitly.

I see. If one of us is fabricating things, who is it?

I think sprit is the most honest seeming. Super weird thing to make up. You and Luna are probably tied for next — Luna’s came after yours and could be a “well, a fake dump isn’t so risky now” kind of move; you, I have reason to believe but nonetheless can’t say I can clear you from that. Sabie’s is most likely to be a reactive “don’t lynch me” move (Luna’s is quite reactive as well, but not to save her own skin.)

I don't think any of us are lying, for what it's worth. But I also don't think sabie and luna have dumped anything.

Luna supposedly mechanically cleared G-Man; Sabie is allegedly mechanically incriminating Wilgy. That’s what I’m referring to if it wasn’t clear.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:17 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:13 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:12 pm I'm on page 36. Is there anything pressing anybody wants from me while I pause to let my eyeballs stop bleeding? I'll wait ten minutes here and then get back to it.

I could use a quick read on both Quin and G-man.

I would lynch G-Man. I haven't had the chance to break it down, but my grievance with him has to do with that big post he made that I quoted as a bookmark, in which he went after juliets for...being juliets. The whole post looked insincere in that way.

Quin I can't remember anything about.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:18 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:16 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:59 pm I have reason to believe that nutella was killed by one of the five players I ISO’d.

Okay, thanks. I have reason to believe that G-man is not guilty.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:57 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:50 pm Nevermind Sabie I dunno if legally you can answer that

I dont know if I legally can either but I think I've made it pretty clear indirectly.