Re: Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Day 3)
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:32 pm
I doubt I'll be able to post anything tomorrow, so maybe I'll have to do everything today.
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
TripleHaven wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:22 pm Yeah resolving d1 is correct here, I agree with everything people have said about it
i'm unyeetable today btw
Probably GG. "We need that town voice" is kinda stilted and hints that GG has been thinking a lot about my "town voice" and how I might influence the rest of the thread, which is not great since I got kidnapped yesterday. I'm not really feeling pockety pings from the other three people who thanked me for being back. Maybe Scotty if I reached, but he seems to be townsiding today so I don't care. I have a pretty strong townread on LoMo.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:30 pm @Alison which of the people sucking up to you are trying to pocket you?
What did you think of my siding yesterday, btw? HBent heard a lot of your opinion of meAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:09 pmProbably GG. "We need that town voice" is kinda stilted and hints that GG has been thinking a lot about my "town voice" and how I might influence the rest of the thread, which is not great since I got kidnapped yesterday. I'm not really feeling pockety pings from the other three people who thanked me for being back. Maybe Scotty if I reached, but he seems to be townsiding today so I don't care. I have a pretty strong townread on LoMo.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:30 pm @Alison which of the people sucking up to you are trying to pocket you?
The post Mac is repeating over and over is the post he got warned for violating the post cap for so it's possible that it has something to do with that. Alternatively it could be related to the fake gun he triggered which he said gave him a bunch of negative util effects. Silencing could easily fall under that category.
Forgive me for asking but what hijinx in SV are you referencing? Didn’t catch that one
I liked your Ender push. I don't like how the person who was hard tunnelling you died the next night. However I do not think you can be teamed with Ender (or if you are I'm not going to crack it until later) so I am sort of sidelining you until I flip Ender.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:11 pmWhat did you think of my siding yesterday, btw? HBent heard a lot of your opinion of meAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:09 pmProbably GG. "We need that town voice" is kinda stilted and hints that GG has been thinking a lot about my "town voice" and how I might influence the rest of the thread, which is not great since I got kidnapped yesterday. I'm not really feeling pockety pings from the other three people who thanked me for being back. Maybe Scotty if I reached, but he seems to be townsiding today so I don't care. I have a pretty strong townread on LoMo.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:30 pm @Alison which of the people sucking up to you are trying to pocket you?
Garden Gnome isn't easy to read?
Tim was wolf and pretended he had a post restriction inflicted on him by mafia. In theory Mac could be doing the same but it makes no sense to do it now and like this if he is mafia so I am just going to treat him as confirmed town because the mafia tried to shut him up.
She gets miskilled on a pretty regular basisCreature wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:14 pmGarden Gnome isn't easy to read?
Either of these two posts are the most likely candidate for making mafia panic. Or possibly both. Which means I am gazing into a POE of Creature (post #1) and Scotty/LoMo/listo/GG (post #2, they were the ones who were saying thank god Alison is back).MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:30 pm @Alison which of the people sucking up to you are trying to pocket you?
At first i thought it was a trigger mech, like the 5th voter for the day incited it. Or @ing certain people. Too random, and you mentioning he said it yesterday makes this a definitive day action based on his last words of d2. Just odd.
Oh this is a good point, I didn't think about a triggered ability.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:35 pmAt first i thought it was a trigger mech, like the 5th voter for the day incited it. Or @ing certain people. Too random, and you mentioning he said it yesterday makes this a definitive day action based on his last words of d2. Just odd.
It’s too basic to think they didn’t want him to go down the path he was going down. It’s all a shrug, but I do indeed read him as town for it
Again, I think it’s too random of an ability. Too many chances of not firing, if it was a one-shot ability used.Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:38 pmOh this is a good point, I didn't think about a triggered ability.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:35 pmAt first i thought it was a trigger mech, like the 5th voter for the day incited it. Or @ing certain people. Too random, and you mentioning he said it yesterday makes this a definitive day action based on his last words of d2. Just odd.
It’s too basic to think they didn’t want him to go down the path he was going down. It’s all a shrug, but I do indeed read him as town for it
Who do you think the mafia are apart from Ender?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:40 pmAgain, I think it’s too random of an ability. Too many chances of not firing, if it was a one-shot ability used.Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:38 pmOh this is a good point, I didn't think about a triggered ability.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:35 pmAt first i thought it was a trigger mech, like the 5th voter for the day incited it. Or @ing certain people. Too random, and you mentioning he said it yesterday makes this a definitive day action based on his last words of d2. Just odd.
It’s too basic to think they didn’t want him to go down the path he was going down. It’s all a shrug, but I do indeed read him as town for it
I do think it was targeted at mac, and your delving into the reasoning why is not my strong suit so I’ll sheep your opinion there.
You are excused, my son
I’m coming around on both you and Mac viewing nook town based on explanation of his town meta, so I’ll take him off the table.Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:43 pmWho do you think the mafia are apart from Ender?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:40 pmAgain, I think it’s too random of an ability. Too many chances of not firing, if it was a one-shot ability used.Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:38 pmOh this is a good point, I didn't think about a triggered ability.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:35 pmAt first i thought it was a trigger mech, like the 5th voter for the day incited it. Or @ing certain people. Too random, and you mentioning he said it yesterday makes this a definitive day action based on his last words of d2. Just odd.
It’s too basic to think they didn’t want him to go down the path he was going down. It’s all a shrug, but I do indeed read him as town for it
I do think it was targeted at mac, and your delving into the reasoning why is not my strong suit so I’ll sheep your opinion there.
I'm still looking at Creature as scummy he hasn't really gotten any better all game.Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:50 pm What's with your Creature town lean? I had him as town early on for bellyaching about the soup kill but he has contributed next to nothing since then and Mac calling him out was one of the last few posts he made before he got silenced so that read has withered.
His apathy just came off as town to me. But I can see it either way. He’s a slanker and can get shot down the line if it comes to it. Would like to see more contributionsAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:50 pm What's with your Creature town lean? I had him as town early on for bellyaching about the soup kill but he has contributed next to nothing since then and Mac calling him out was one of the last few posts he made before he got silenced so that read has withered.
His apathy just came off as town to me. But I can see it either way. He’s a slanker and can get shot down the line if it comes to it. Would like to see more contributionsAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:50 pm What's with your Creature town lean? I had him as town early on for bellyaching about the soup kill but he has contributed next to nothing since then and Mac calling him out was one of the last few posts he made before he got silenced so that read has withered.
Okay so let me get this right. His town meta is to pretty much do nothing and just sheep a strong voice? Where I come from that is literally wolf play. If I'm misunderstanding what you say his meta is then I'm sorry. Also let me just explain my unable to give reasons for cases. It is more being unable to find reasons more being unable to articulate why someone has been wolfy.Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:53 pm If listo was scum I'd expect his read on nanook to be TMI, not an attempt to misexe a townie. This is especially true given the self-deprecating "ah I'm really bad at giving logical reasons for my cases all I have is gut" which is very poor if you're trying to get other players to vote an innocent townie but very effective if you want to distance from your partner without risking real momentum against them. So if nanook is town then I think the chances of listo being town actually increase.
His reads early on melded with mine and is the main reason I was tRing him.Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:53 pm If listo was scum I'd expect his read on nanook to be TMI, not an attempt to misexe a townie. This is especially true given the self-deprecating "ah I'm really bad at giving logical reasons for my cases all I have is gut" which is very poor if you're trying to get other players to vote an innocent townie but very effective if you want to distance from your partner without risking real momentum against them. So if nanook is town then I think the chances of listo being town actually increase.
I mean you’re right there. That sounds like nanook this game.listo95 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:10 pmOkay so let me get this right. His town meta is to pretty much do nothing and just sheep a strong voice? Where I come from that is literally wolf play. If I'm misunderstanding what you say his meta is then I'm sorry. Also let me just explain my unable to give reasons for cases. It is more being unable to find reasons more being unable to articulate why someone has been wolfy.Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:53 pm If listo was scum I'd expect his read on nanook to be TMI, not an attempt to misexe a townie. This is especially true given the self-deprecating "ah I'm really bad at giving logical reasons for my cases all I have is gut" which is very poor if you're trying to get other players to vote an innocent townie but very effective if you want to distance from your partner without risking real momentum against them. So if nanook is town then I think the chances of listo being town actually increase.
Genuinely I feel like he has done almost nothing this entire game except sheep voices and give that confusing start to D2 with Michelle.
Oh I literally do not sheep that at all. I fully believe Nanook is a wolf. My current other quick reads would be:Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:15 pmI mean you’re right there. That sounds like nanook this game.listo95 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:10 pmOkay so let me get this right. His town meta is to pretty much do nothing and just sheep a strong voice? Where I come from that is literally wolf play. If I'm misunderstanding what you say his meta is then I'm sorry. Also let me just explain my unable to give reasons for cases. It is more being unable to find reasons more being unable to articulate why someone has been wolfy.Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:53 pm If listo was scum I'd expect his read on nanook to be TMI, not an attempt to misexe a townie. This is especially true given the self-deprecating "ah I'm really bad at giving logical reasons for my cases all I have is gut" which is very poor if you're trying to get other players to vote an innocent townie but very effective if you want to distance from your partner without risking real momentum against them. So if nanook is town then I think the chances of listo being town actually increase.
Genuinely I feel like he has done almost nothing this entire game except sheep voices and give that confusing start to D2 with Michelle.
If you sheep Alison and Mac’s read of town nook meta, what other reads ya got?
I don’t feel great about TH in general, but what are you seeing to differentiate town vs mafia TH? I have no context for metalisto95 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:20 pmOh I literally do not sheep that at all. I fully believe Nanook is a wolf. My current other quick reads would be:Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:15 pmI mean you’re right there. That sounds like nanook this game.listo95 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:10 pmOkay so let me get this right. His town meta is to pretty much do nothing and just sheep a strong voice? Where I come from that is literally wolf play. If I'm misunderstanding what you say his meta is then I'm sorry. Also let me just explain my unable to give reasons for cases. It is more being unable to find reasons more being unable to articulate why someone has been wolfy.Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:53 pm If listo was scum I'd expect his read on nanook to be TMI, not an attempt to misexe a townie. This is especially true given the self-deprecating "ah I'm really bad at giving logical reasons for my cases all I have is gut" which is very poor if you're trying to get other players to vote an innocent townie but very effective if you want to distance from your partner without risking real momentum against them. So if nanook is town then I think the chances of listo being town actually increase.
Genuinely I feel like he has done almost nothing this entire game except sheep voices and give that confusing start to D2 with Michelle.
If you sheep Alison and Mac’s read of town nook meta, what other reads ya got?
Creature - Wolf
Ender - Null (I do agree his spot needs to be resolved to get better D1 reads)
Scotty - Town
Alison - Town
TH - Honestly this does not feel like town TH to me so Wolf Lean
I think as of now those are my strongest reads besides the Nanook wolf.