someone mad about axe being universally town read?
Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:31 pm
by Lumi
HK decided to bus without being able to communicate with his team, but knowing who his team is.
I think that means it's is >rand likely that one is the following happened:
1) The other wolf was already on falcon so HK felt comfortable bussing
2) HK had low confidence in the other wolf being able to turn the wagons and do he bussed first
I think it makes Arcbell and DDL >rand town
Probably Jack >rand town too
I think the kill on NAA makes a deep wolf >rand likely as well so that they're not sticking out in LYLO with questions like "why is X still alive?"
So that means screen and porscha are >rand town too
Mac, Dizzy, Mizery
I think Mac is least likely to be wolf of them all because of he were wolf he'd be much more likely to be Glomgold
Which is obviously not possible now and would make his day 1 decision to hellbus extra dubious as he would have no way besides reads to not just accidentally get his other wolf mate killed
Dizzy / Mizery I think are >rand wolf off of this
Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:35 pm
by Dyslexicon
Did we win?
Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:35 pm
by Dyslexicon
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:30 pm
someone mad about axe being universally town read?
He wasn't at all lol
It's kind of a weird kill tbh
Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:36 pm
by Lumi
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:35 pmDid we win?
Who's the last wolf?
Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:37 pm
by Dyslexicon
Reading HK's ISO
I think Mizery is spewed town from it.
Jack might be spewed town for it, by HK vote parking on Jack D2. It was a lame and limp vote, but still.
Screen spewed town from the early town read.
I think HK talks to Lag as if he's town too.
I think Mizery is spewed town from it.
Jack might be spewed town for it, by HK vote parking on Jack D2. It was a lame and limp vote, but still.
Screen spewed town from the early town read.
I think HK talks to Lag as if they're town too.
Lag wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:31 pm
HK decided to bus without being able to communicate with his team, but knowing who his team is.
I think that means it's is >rand likely that one is the following happened:
1) The other wolf was already on falcon so HK felt comfortable bussing
2) HK had low confidence in the other wolf being able to turn the wagons and do he bussed first
I think it makes Arcbell and DDL >rand town
Probably Jack >rand town too
I think the kill on NAA makes a deep wolf >rand likely as well so that they're not sticking out in LYLO with questions like "why is X still alive?"
So that means screen and porscha are >rand town too
Mac, Dizzy, Mizery
I think Mac is least likely to be wolf of them all because of he were wolf he'd be much more likely to be Glomgold
Which is obviously not possible now and would make his day 1 decision to hellbus extra dubious as he would have no way besides reads to not just accidentally get his other wolf mate killed
Dizzy / Mizery I think are >rand wolf off of this
This is weird reasoning to me, but werk.
I think Mizery is just spewed town from HK's ISO.
He town reads Mizery early, comments on her vote with "maybe you have a good reads day or just read the obvious people" (or something like it).
I think HK bussed Falcon, because he thought Falcon made himself obvious, so he kind of had to bus. Reference, the line above.
The night kill is weird though. I would never make it. Just so you know lol
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:31 pm
Jack/Porscha doesn't look like it's a thing. Jack voted her 7 min before EoD, I followed. But I do think it's conceivable that Porscha could be run down. There was a lot of chaos during EoD.
They wouldn't know of each other's existence given that Falcon was the team mafia, yeah?
Well, yeah. Unless Jack 3p. Knowing of each other only goes one way. Though the mafia might have a good idea.
do you think the 3p would want to signal here or not? I was thinking about that in my fevered half-sleep this afternoon and couldn't come to a decision
Uhhh is this a signal?
Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:43 pm
by Arcbell
Can remaining 3p claim? At this point we'll just help you get dat coin
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:31 pm
Jack/Porscha doesn't look like it's a thing. Jack voted her 7 min before EoD, I followed. But I do think it's conceivable that Porscha could be run down. There was a lot of chaos during EoD.
They wouldn't know of each other's existence given that Falcon was the team mafia, yeah?
Well, yeah. Unless Jack 3p. Knowing of each other only goes one way. Though the mafia might have a good idea.
do you think the 3p would want to signal here or not? I was thinking about that in my fevered half-sleep this afternoon and couldn't come to a decision
Uhhh is this a signal?
I saw that lol. At 13 minutes before he was about to die, it was not a signal. But maybe created to try and shade me, but lol
Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:46 pm
by Lumi
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:30 pm
someone mad about axe being universally town read?
It would be hilarious if screen made the kill thinking it frames Arcbell and made this post to plant that idea, because the kill really doesn't frame Arcbell
Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:47 pm
by Arcbell
Obviously if 3p ccs maf and outs them, at this point we'll just drag the game out for them until they get coin
Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:47 pm
by Dyslexicon
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:45 pm
plus we have mac and luffy who are soft clears
Literally, these are the ones I'm having pretty huge second thoughts about after HK's iso.
Would be pretty sad if Mac's mafia though, and I don't want that to be the case. He's really probably not.
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:30 pm
someone mad about axe being universally town read?
It would be hilarious if screen made the kill thinking it frames Arcbell and made this post to plant that idea, because the kill really doesn't frame Arcbell
Actually, what did you mean by this @srceenplay
Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:49 pm
by Lumi
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:43 pm
Can remaining 3p claim? At this point we'll just help you get dat coin
3p shouldn't claim, since then mafia just kills them back to back nights and we don't gain an ML
You are good enough at mech that you should know this and you asking for this is wolfy for you
Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:49 pm
by Dyslexicon
I also noticed HK didn't mention Porscha once in his iso. Not drawing any conclusion based on that, but it's a thing.
Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:50 pm
by Lumi
3p should definitely claim if they're going over otherwise, but unless that's the case, they don't claim
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:45 pm
plus we have mac and luffy who are soft clears
Literally, these are the ones I'm having pretty huge second thoughts about after HK's iso.
Would be pretty sad if Mac's mafia though, and I don't want that to be the case. He's really probably not.
I think we just follow along if someone is doing the lag gambit and let mac find mafia before the 3 way and yeet him if survives that long and doesn't
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:30 pm
someone mad about axe being universally town read?
It would be hilarious if screen made the kill thinking it frames Arcbell and made this post to plant that idea, because the kill really doesn't frame Arcbell
I'm not cleaver enough or forcefull enough to frame anyone ever
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:30 pm
someone mad about axe being universally town read?
It would be hilarious if screen made the kill thinking it frames Arcbell and made this post to plant that idea, because the kill really doesn't frame Arcbell
I'm not cleaver enough or forcefull enough to frame anyone ever
this sounds genuine, but doesn't make him town. framing isn't the only reason someone might blunder a naah kill
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:30 pm
someone mad about axe being universally town read?
It would be hilarious if screen made the kill thinking it frames Arcbell and made this post to plant that idea, because the kill really doesn't frame Arcbell
Actually, what did you mean by this @srceenplay
Just that. Why else would anyone get rid of him? Wasn't going to get voted out.
Maybe he was on to something.
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:45 pm
plus we have mac and luffy who are soft clears
Literally, these are the ones I'm having pretty huge second thoughts about after HK's iso.
Would be pretty sad if Mac's mafia though, and I don't want that to be the case. He's really probably not.
I think we just follow along if someone is doing the lag gambit and let mac find mafia before the 3 way and yeet him if survives that long and doesn't
I kind of want to just sheep Mac until F3 and then just policy him if he wasn't able to find a wolf the entire time until then. My concern would be he would kill me the night before F3 and then hope someone lol~willages and doesn't policy him when he'd have no business being alive
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:30 pm
someone mad about axe being universally town read?
It would be hilarious if screen made the kill thinking it frames Arcbell and made this post to plant that idea, because the kill really doesn't frame Arcbell
Actually, what did you mean by this @srceenplay
Just that. Why else would anyone get rid of him? Wasn't going to get voted out.
Maybe he was on to something.
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:45 pm
plus we have mac and luffy who are soft clears
Literally, these are the ones I'm having pretty huge second thoughts about after HK's iso.
Would be pretty sad if Mac's mafia though, and I don't want that to be the case. He's really probably not.
I think we just follow along if someone is doing the lag gambit and let mac find mafia before the 3 way and yeet him if survives that long and doesn't
I kind of want to just sheep Mac until F3 and then just policy him if he wasn't able to find a wolf the entire time until then. My concern would be he would kill me the night before F3 and then hope someone lol~willages and doesn't policy him when he'd have no business being alive
I think this is absolutely what we should do. We just need to make sure everyone is primed and mac himself agrees to the plan
Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:59 pm
by Arcbell
I mean I'll admit I'm starting to believe the hype about mac's reads a bit, so I think ensuring he survives till the 3way is sufficient motivation for the maf to kill him before then anyways
Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:27 pm
Someone talk to me, I hate backreading
Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?
The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.
Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.
why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?
It's almost exclusively fluff posts + lists of names with no explanations.
Town Illwei has significantly more depth of thought than that. Wolf Illwei is prone to doing just that.
god dammit lag stop doing things
I think my only experience with illwei wolf was in the hydra game we were wolves together and yeah that tracks pretty accurately.
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:43 pm
god dammit lag stop doing things
Also what do you mean by this?
because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up.
Here's some of HK's progression on Mizery. He town reads her pretty fast in the beginning.
However, when Lag questions her on D2, he looks quite content to build up under that suspicion. He says that Lag's account for Mizery's wolf play tracks accurately with this game. And the sentence "because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up." just doesn't read like something you would say if you had tmi that she was mafia.
The whole thing just reads like a TMI read of Mizery as town based on little, but being happy when she is suspected.
srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:30 pm
someone mad about axe being universally town read?
It would be hilarious if screen made the kill thinking it frames Arcbell and made this post to plant that idea, because the kill really doesn't frame Arcbell
Actually, what did you mean by this @srceenplay
Just that. Why else would anyone get rid of him? Wasn't going to get voted out.
Maybe he was on to something.
Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:27 pm
Someone talk to me, I hate backreading
Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?
The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.
Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.
why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?
It's almost exclusively fluff posts + lists of names with no explanations.
Town Illwei has significantly more depth of thought than that. Wolf Illwei is prone to doing just that.
god dammit lag stop doing things
I think my only experience with illwei wolf was in the hydra game we were wolves together and yeah that tracks pretty accurately.
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:43 pm
god dammit lag stop doing things
Also what do you mean by this?
because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up.
Here's some of HK's progression on Mizery. He town reads her pretty fast in the beginning.
However, when Lag questions her on D2, he looks quite content to build up under that suspicion. He says that Lag's account for Mizery's wolf play tracks accurately with this game. And the sentence "because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up." just doesn't read like something you would say if you had tmi that she was mafia.
The whole thing just reads like a TMI read of Mizery as town based on little, but being happy when she is suspected.
Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:27 pm
Someone talk to me, I hate backreading
Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?
The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.
Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.
why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?
It's almost exclusively fluff posts + lists of names with no explanations.
Town Illwei has significantly more depth of thought than that. Wolf Illwei is prone to doing just that.
god dammit lag stop doing things
I think my only experience with illwei wolf was in the hydra game we were wolves together and yeah that tracks pretty accurately.
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:43 pm
god dammit lag stop doing things
Also what do you mean by this?
because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up.
Here's some of HK's progression on Mizery. He town reads her pretty fast in the beginning.
However, when Lag questions her on D2, he looks quite content to build up under that suspicion. He says that Lag's account for Mizery's wolf play tracks accurately with this game. And the sentence "because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up." just doesn't read like something you would say if you had tmi that she was mafia.
The whole thing just reads like a TMI read of Mizery as town based on little, but being happy when she is suspected.
Counterpoint: Glomgold would actually not mind being a solo wolf in order to take ownership of the night kill and bussing along the way gets him the towncred he needs to survive until the end.
I'm actually coming to kind of the opposite conclusion off of this
Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:43 pm
Can remaining 3p claim? At this point we'll just help you get dat coin
3p shouldn't claim, since then mafia just kills them back to back nights and we don't gain an ML
You are good enough at mech that you should know this and you asking for this is wolfy for you
@Arcbell why did you ignore this?
I didn't see it but also I corrected it in my next post. I may be good at mech but nothing will ever stop me from saying stuff before fully thinking it through!
