Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)

[Lumi]

Mizery's ISO feels >rand wolf

[Lumi]

Someone talk to me, I hate backreading

[Lumi]

I'm out of my wolf range

[Lumi]

I'm out of my town range

[Lumi]

I get the feeling that now that the other game is over, Mac is going to bully me into being active this game. lol

[Lime Coke]

Someone talk to me, I hate backreading

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

[Lumi]

Someone talk to me, I hate backreading

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.

Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.

[Lumi]

Is there any way to see vote history here?

[Lumi]

Someone talk to me, I hate backreading

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

Why do you think Seanzie was night killed?

[hollowkatt]

Is there any way to see vote history here?

not unless someone else was doing screen grabs, or people posted their votes in the thread and you keep a manual count.

[hollowkatt]

Someone talk to me, I hate backreading

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.

Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.

why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?

[Lumi]

Also did Hollowkatt just ninja a vote right now?

[hollowkatt]

Also did Hollowkatt just ninja a vote right now?

no, I realized on "new page" that I had only voted Jack in the thread, not in the poll. Here's my vote post:

townies:

HK
Mac
Dizzy
LC
DDL
Mizery
srceen
NAA

is that enough? I feel like that's enough

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine
do something townie

[Lime Coke]

Someone talk to me, I hate backreading

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.

Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.

That's also the thing with me is that I feel like I also have a pretty accurate read on Mizery myself.

When she was here though her only main read was townreading me...which she can easily do as mafia since she knows she can pocket me pretty easily.
I've been remaining patient with her because, as you said, she was also in that Draft game, and I wouldn't want to cause her to get ML'd because that happens way too often and she normally has great reads when she's town.

If she keeps not doing anything I can't have a confident enough town read on her to the point that I'd hard shield.

[Lumi]

Someone talk to me, I hate backreading

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.

Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.

why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?

It's almost exclusively fluff posts + lists of names with no explanations.
Town Illwei has significantly more depth of thought than that. Wolf Illwei is prone to doing just that.

[Lime Coke]

Someone talk to me, I hate backreading

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

Why do you think Seanzie was night killed?

Hard shoved Falcon Day 1, to my recollection he was universally townread with the only person scumreading him was the flipped mafia, and if Rondo is Falcon's partner then that's possibly another reason.

[Lumi]

Unironically though, can someone summarize to me how we got a wolf on day 1?

Did Seanzie lead the push or something?

[Lime Coke]

Unironically though, can someone summarize to me how we got a wolf on day 1?

Did Seanzie lead the push or something?

Seanzie and Mac started it, everyone else sheeped or piled on.

[Lumi]

Someone talk to me, I hate backreading

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

Why do you think Seanzie was night killed?

Hard shoved Falcon Day 1, to my recollection he was universally townread with the only person scumreading him was the flipped mafia, and if Rondo is Falcon's partner then that's possibly another reason.

Who do you think got cleared off of that day 1?

[hollowkatt]

Someone talk to me, I hate backreading

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.

Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.

why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?

It's almost exclusively fluff posts + lists of names with no explanations.
Town Illwei has significantly more depth of thought than that. Wolf Illwei is prone to doing just that.

god dammit lag stop doing things
I think my only experience with illwei wolf was in the hydra game we were wolves together and yeah that tracks pretty accurately.

[Lumi]

Someone talk to me, I hate backreading

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.

Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.

why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?

It's almost exclusively fluff posts + lists of names with no explanations.
Town Illwei has significantly more depth of thought than that. Wolf Illwei is prone to doing just that.

god dammit lag stop doing things
I think my only experience with illwei wolf was in the hydra game we were wolves together and yeah that tracks pretty accurately.

At this point I've technically played with, hydra'd with, or hosted 9 games with Mizery in the last 6 months. The meta tracks pretty well across all of those games.


What are your thoughts on day 1? Who do you think was cleared from that push?

[Lime Coke]

Someone talk to me, I hate backreading

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

Why do you think Seanzie was night killed?

Hard shoved Falcon Day 1, to my recollection he was universally townread with the only person scumreading him was the flipped mafia, and if Rondo is Falcon's partner then that's possibly another reason.

Who do you think got cleared off of that day 1?

Spoiler: show

What's in the spoiler is basically the play-by-play on what Falcon did during the game in terms of who he shaded/voted.

Spoiler: show

Falcon's game:
RVS vote on Mizery
Shades Dizzy thinking they're over-doing the drunk posting.
Shades Dragon for the town and scum reads with hedgyness
Jumps onto Srceenplay wagon while Arcbell and I are pushing him.
Questions Arc on his Dizzy read
Heavy shades Mac for asking for explanation then not giving explanation on a read
Talks about Rondo having a lot of posts but no content, but is hedgy and asks others if it's town or scummy of Rondo to do so.
Responds to Seanzie voting Falcon by voting Rondo.
Shades Mizery and I talking about how we're not making our own reads on him
Answers Seanzie's questions but then asks if Seanzie's semantics caring is mafia indicative
Talks about Mac's wolf game and how Mac is wolfy then votes me instead.
Near getting hammered starts to fight Dragon calling him hedgey and lazy because Dragon is simply throwing the "Third times a charm" phrase while voting Falcon and votes him
Talks about Dragon needing to OMGUS Arcbell because Arcbell is voting Dragon, which then compares it to Mac OMGUS'ing Falcon.

The main thing I got from this spew analysis:
Falcon pretty much spews Mac town due to the fact that Falcon complains about Mac's "OMGUS" read on Falcon while talking to Dragon...as he's voting him before getting hammered. Wolfy salt upon being caught by a town I feel.
I feel like this also spews Dragon town as well since it's just more complaining, trying to get someone else to go after someone else.

I had Seanzie town just based on his push on Falcon in general but he died so there's that.


I don't exactly know how to read through spew, those analysis points are the best that I got, if anyone else wants to use it to garner ideas from it feel free to do so.

Spoiler: show

Maybe explain them as well since I kind of want to learn from this.

Inside the spoiler was my first post into Day 2 and it was just analysis of what I saw Falcon doing and what I came out with from it.
(Feel free to check the play by play if you want a quick look to what Falcon did.)

But TLDR to my estimation is that Falcon towards the end of the day was pushing on Dragon, but as he was interacting with Dragon he was basically saying "Don't forget to OMGUS people like Mac just did to me" which kind of feels like bitterness towards Mac's push on him. So it spews Mac town because it's salt about how Mac caught Falcon, and spews Dragon town because he's literally complaining towards Dragon while at the same time voting him.

[Lumi]

Someone talk to me, I hate backreading

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

Why do you think Seanzie was night killed?

Hard shoved Falcon Day 1, to my recollection he was universally townread with the only person scumreading him was the flipped mafia, and if Rondo is Falcon's partner then that's possibly another reason.

Who do you think got cleared off of that day 1?

Spoiler: show

What's in the spoiler is basically the play-by-play on what Falcon did during the game in terms of who he shaded/voted.

Spoiler: show

Falcon's game:
RVS vote on Mizery
Shades Dizzy thinking they're over-doing the drunk posting.
Shades Dragon for the town and scum reads with hedgyness
Jumps onto Srceenplay wagon while Arcbell and I are pushing him.
Questions Arc on his Dizzy read
Heavy shades Mac for asking for explanation then not giving explanation on a read
Talks about Rondo having a lot of posts but no content, but is hedgy and asks others if it's town or scummy of Rondo to do so.
Responds to Seanzie voting Falcon by voting Rondo.
Shades Mizery and I talking about how we're not making our own reads on him
Answers Seanzie's questions but then asks if Seanzie's semantics caring is mafia indicative
Talks about Mac's wolf game and how Mac is wolfy then votes me instead.
Near getting hammered starts to fight Dragon calling him hedgey and lazy because Dragon is simply throwing the "Third times a charm" phrase while voting Falcon and votes him
Talks about Dragon needing to OMGUS Arcbell because Arcbell is voting Dragon, which then compares it to Mac OMGUS'ing Falcon.

The main thing I got from this spew analysis:
Falcon pretty much spews Mac town due to the fact that Falcon complains about Mac's "OMGUS" read on Falcon while talking to Dragon...as he's voting him before getting hammered. Wolfy salt upon being caught by a town I feel.
I feel like this also spews Dragon town as well since it's just more complaining, trying to get someone else to go after someone else.

I had Seanzie town just based on his push on Falcon in general but he died so there's that.


I don't exactly know how to read through spew, those analysis points are the best that I got, if anyone else wants to use it to garner ideas from it feel free to do so.

Spoiler: show

Maybe explain them as well since I kind of want to learn from this.

Inside the spoiler was my first post into Day 2 and it was just analysis of what I saw Falcon doing and what I came out with from it.
(Feel free to check the play by play if you want a quick look to what Falcon did.)

But TLDR to my estimation is that Falcon towards the end of the day was pushing on Dragon, but as he was interacting with Dragon he was basically saying "Don't forget to OMGUS people like Mac just did to me" which kind of feels like bitterness towards Mac's push on him. So it spews Mac town because it's salt about how Mac caught Falcon, and spews Dragon town because he's literally complaining towards Dragon while at the same time voting him.

Why do you think Seanzie was killed over Mac?

[Lumi]

Google [Bot] is browsing this forum and it makes me uncomfortable.

[hollowkatt]

Someone talk to me, I hate backreading

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.

Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.

why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?

It's almost exclusively fluff posts + lists of names with no explanations.
Town Illwei has significantly more depth of thought than that. Wolf Illwei is prone to doing just that.

god dammit lag stop doing things
I think my only experience with illwei wolf was in the hydra game we were wolves together and yeah that tracks pretty accurately.

At this point I've technically played with, hydra'd with, or hosted 9 games with Mizery in the last 6 months. The meta tracks pretty well across all of those games.


What are your thoughts on day 1? Who do you think was cleared from that push?

I think DDL is cleared. Not only were they on falcon but falcon died on them. I don't see that as being paired.
I didn't read a lot of D1 and ended up just sheeping my top town reads (dizzy/seanzie) for the chop.

[Arcbell]

Unironically though, can someone summarize to me how we got a wolf on day 1?

Did Seanzie lead the push or something?

I wasn't there for it either but legend has it seanzie started the push, with mac following through. Falco was playing 'attack the argument not the conclusion' with mac and felt like mafia mad about getting scumread for bad reasons imo. Rondo was apparently TMI'ing, treating falco as confscum, but I cannot independently verify. Ultimately I came in to hammer for fun because Rondo said they were going to.

[Lumi]

@Seanzie has died, he flips VT, Della Duck.



Hammer is 7, eod is April 15, 12pm EDT.

Spoiler: show

@ Arcbell
@ Dragon D. Luffy
@ Dyslexicon
@ hollowkatt
@ Jackofhearts2005
@ Lag
@ Lime Coke
@ MacDougall
@ Mizery
@ NotAnAxehole
@ Porscha
@ RondoDimBuckle
@ srceenplay

Wait what the heck, EoD time changes when there's an early hammer here?

[Arcbell]

lag has brought us a strong scumread as a gift from their travels

[Lumi]

Unironically though, can someone summarize to me how we got a wolf on day 1?

Did Seanzie lead the push or something?

I wasn't there for it either but legend has it seanzie started the push, with mac following through. Falco was playing 'attack the argument not the conclusion' with mac and felt like mafia mad about getting scumread for bad reasons imo. Rondo was apparently TMI'ing, treating falco as confscum, but I cannot independently verify. Ultimately I came in to hammer for fun because Rondo said they were going to.

I don't think I ever mentioned it before, but I love your pfp.


Who's your short-list of players that you scum-read?

Why do you think Seanzie was killed instead of Mac?

[Lime Coke]

Someone talk to me, I hate backreading

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

Why do you think Seanzie was night killed?

Hard shoved Falcon Day 1, to my recollection he was universally townread with the only person scumreading him was the flipped mafia, and if Rondo is Falcon's partner then that's possibly another reason.

Who do you think got cleared off of that day 1?

Spoiler: show

What's in the spoiler is basically the play-by-play on what Falcon did during the game in terms of who he shaded/voted.

Spoiler: show

Falcon's game:
RVS vote on Mizery
Shades Dizzy thinking they're over-doing the drunk posting.
Shades Dragon for the town and scum reads with hedgyness
Jumps onto Srceenplay wagon while Arcbell and I are pushing him.
Questions Arc on his Dizzy read
Heavy shades Mac for asking for explanation then not giving explanation on a read
Talks about Rondo having a lot of posts but no content, but is hedgy and asks others if it's town or scummy of Rondo to do so.
Responds to Seanzie voting Falcon by voting Rondo.
Shades Mizery and I talking about how we're not making our own reads on him
Answers Seanzie's questions but then asks if Seanzie's semantics caring is mafia indicative
Talks about Mac's wolf game and how Mac is wolfy then votes me instead.
Near getting hammered starts to fight Dragon calling him hedgey and lazy because Dragon is simply throwing the "Third times a charm" phrase while voting Falcon and votes him
Talks about Dragon needing to OMGUS Arcbell because Arcbell is voting Dragon, which then compares it to Mac OMGUS'ing Falcon.

The main thing I got from this spew analysis:
Falcon pretty much spews Mac town due to the fact that Falcon complains about Mac's "OMGUS" read on Falcon while talking to Dragon...as he's voting him before getting hammered. Wolfy salt upon being caught by a town I feel.
I feel like this also spews Dragon town as well since it's just more complaining, trying to get someone else to go after someone else.

I had Seanzie town just based on his push on Falcon in general but he died so there's that.


I don't exactly know how to read through spew, those analysis points are the best that I got, if anyone else wants to use it to garner ideas from it feel free to do so.

Spoiler: show

Maybe explain them as well since I kind of want to learn from this.

Inside the spoiler was my first post into Day 2 and it was just analysis of what I saw Falcon doing and what I came out with from it.
(Feel free to check the play by play if you want a quick look to what Falcon did.)

But TLDR to my estimation is that Falcon towards the end of the day was pushing on Dragon, but as he was interacting with Dragon he was basically saying "Don't forget to OMGUS people like Mac just did to me" which kind of feels like bitterness towards Mac's push on him. So it spews Mac town because it's salt about how Mac caught Falcon, and spews Dragon town because he's literally complaining towards Dragon while at the same time voting him.

Why do you think Seanzie was killed over Mac?

Well the main reason would end up being that Rondo is Falcon's partner or was helping Falcon in some sort of way by being a scumsiding 3P.

There was a moment when the Falcon wagon was building up, that Rondo was just acting crazy and doing a bunch of weird shit, then Seanzie called him out and said that Rondo could be the partner trying to distract everyone from Falcon.

If there's another reason...maybe just universally townread while killing a mafia member like I said earlier?

[Lumi]

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

Why do you think Seanzie was night killed?

Hard shoved Falcon Day 1, to my recollection he was universally townread with the only person scumreading him was the flipped mafia, and if Rondo is Falcon's partner then that's possibly another reason.

Who do you think got cleared off of that day 1?

Spoiler: show

What's in the spoiler is basically the play-by-play on what Falcon did during the game in terms of who he shaded/voted.

Spoiler: show

Falcon's game:
RVS vote on Mizery
Shades Dizzy thinking they're over-doing the drunk posting.
Shades Dragon for the town and scum reads with hedgyness
Jumps onto Srceenplay wagon while Arcbell and I are pushing him.
Questions Arc on his Dizzy read
Heavy shades Mac for asking for explanation then not giving explanation on a read
Talks about Rondo having a lot of posts but no content, but is hedgy and asks others if it's town or scummy of Rondo to do so.
Responds to Seanzie voting Falcon by voting Rondo.
Shades Mizery and I talking about how we're not making our own reads on him
Answers Seanzie's questions but then asks if Seanzie's semantics caring is mafia indicative
Talks about Mac's wolf game and how Mac is wolfy then votes me instead.
Near getting hammered starts to fight Dragon calling him hedgey and lazy because Dragon is simply throwing the "Third times a charm" phrase while voting Falcon and votes him
Talks about Dragon needing to OMGUS Arcbell because Arcbell is voting Dragon, which then compares it to Mac OMGUS'ing Falcon.

The main thing I got from this spew analysis:
Falcon pretty much spews Mac town due to the fact that Falcon complains about Mac's "OMGUS" read on Falcon while talking to Dragon...as he's voting him before getting hammered. Wolfy salt upon being caught by a town I feel.
I feel like this also spews Dragon town as well since it's just more complaining, trying to get someone else to go after someone else.

I had Seanzie town just based on his push on Falcon in general but he died so there's that.


I don't exactly know how to read through spew, those analysis points are the best that I got, if anyone else wants to use it to garner ideas from it feel free to do so.

Spoiler: show

Maybe explain them as well since I kind of want to learn from this.

Inside the spoiler was my first post into Day 2 and it was just analysis of what I saw Falcon doing and what I came out with from it.
(Feel free to check the play by play if you want a quick look to what Falcon did.)

But TLDR to my estimation is that Falcon towards the end of the day was pushing on Dragon, but as he was interacting with Dragon he was basically saying "Don't forget to OMGUS people like Mac just did to me" which kind of feels like bitterness towards Mac's push on him. So it spews Mac town because it's salt about how Mac caught Falcon, and spews Dragon town because he's literally complaining towards Dragon while at the same time voting him.

Why do you think Seanzie was killed over Mac?

Well the main reason would end up being that Rondo is Falcon's partner or was helping Falcon in some sort of way by being a scumsiding 3P.

There was a moment when the Falcon wagon was building up, that Rondo was just acting crazy and doing a bunch of weird shit, then Seanzie called him out and said that Rondo could be the partner trying to distract everyone from Falcon.

If there's another reason...maybe just universally townread while killing a mafia member like I said earlier?

Why are you so much more invested in this game compared to any of the other games we've played together?

[Lumi]

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine

[Lumi]

god dammit lag stop doing things

Also what do you mean by this?

[Arcbell]

Unironically though, can someone summarize to me how we got a wolf on day 1?

Did Seanzie lead the push or something?

I wasn't there for it either but legend has it seanzie started the push, with mac following through. Falco was playing 'attack the argument not the conclusion' with mac and felt like mafia mad about getting scumread for bad reasons imo. Rondo was apparently TMI'ing, treating falco as confscum, but I cannot independently verify. Ultimately I came in to hammer for fun because Rondo said they were going to.

I don't think I ever mentioned it before, but I love your pfp.


Who's your short-list of players that you scum-read?

Why do you think Seanzie was killed instead of Mac?

Canid crew!

I've been talked out of most of my scumreads, now I'm just left with a bunch of lousy townreads (Dyslexicon, Mac, Porscha) so I may look into yours on Mizery.

That night kill blows my fucking mind actually cuz Seanzie damn near spewed himself mafia by trying to save Falcon who then flipped mafia lol. Then he got night killed and flipped town. What in the blue hell lol.

What the fuck are you on, Mac. Lol. I swear, sometimes you are so far away from reality. Sean was the main reason Falcon was chopped and the first to call him out. I 100% expected Sean to be killed here. Lol. Your filter is fun, but it’s the Mac-filter. Now, start over with Rondo and tell me what you think.

I'm just following Dyslexicon's interpretation of events here.

[Lumi]

Feels like no one wants to talk to me, sad

[Lime Coke]

Why do you think Seanzie was night killed?

Hard shoved Falcon Day 1, to my recollection he was universally townread with the only person scumreading him was the flipped mafia, and if Rondo is Falcon's partner then that's possibly another reason.

Who do you think got cleared off of that day 1?

Spoiler: show

What's in the spoiler is basically the play-by-play on what Falcon did during the game in terms of who he shaded/voted.

Spoiler: show

Falcon's game:
RVS vote on Mizery
Shades Dizzy thinking they're over-doing the drunk posting.
Shades Dragon for the town and scum reads with hedgyness
Jumps onto Srceenplay wagon while Arcbell and I are pushing him.
Questions Arc on his Dizzy read
Heavy shades Mac for asking for explanation then not giving explanation on a read
Talks about Rondo having a lot of posts but no content, but is hedgy and asks others if it's town or scummy of Rondo to do so.
Responds to Seanzie voting Falcon by voting Rondo.
Shades Mizery and I talking about how we're not making our own reads on him
Answers Seanzie's questions but then asks if Seanzie's semantics caring is mafia indicative
Talks about Mac's wolf game and how Mac is wolfy then votes me instead.
Near getting hammered starts to fight Dragon calling him hedgey and lazy because Dragon is simply throwing the "Third times a charm" phrase while voting Falcon and votes him
Talks about Dragon needing to OMGUS Arcbell because Arcbell is voting Dragon, which then compares it to Mac OMGUS'ing Falcon.

The main thing I got from this spew analysis:
Falcon pretty much spews Mac town due to the fact that Falcon complains about Mac's "OMGUS" read on Falcon while talking to Dragon...as he's voting him before getting hammered. Wolfy salt upon being caught by a town I feel.
I feel like this also spews Dragon town as well since it's just more complaining, trying to get someone else to go after someone else.

I had Seanzie town just based on his push on Falcon in general but he died so there's that.


I don't exactly know how to read through spew, those analysis points are the best that I got, if anyone else wants to use it to garner ideas from it feel free to do so.

Spoiler: show

Maybe explain them as well since I kind of want to learn from this.

Inside the spoiler was my first post into Day 2 and it was just analysis of what I saw Falcon doing and what I came out with from it.
(Feel free to check the play by play if you want a quick look to what Falcon did.)

But TLDR to my estimation is that Falcon towards the end of the day was pushing on Dragon, but as he was interacting with Dragon he was basically saying "Don't forget to OMGUS people like Mac just did to me" which kind of feels like bitterness towards Mac's push on him. So it spews Mac town because it's salt about how Mac caught Falcon, and spews Dragon town because he's literally complaining towards Dragon while at the same time voting him.

Why do you think Seanzie was killed over Mac?

Well the main reason would end up being that Rondo is Falcon's partner or was helping Falcon in some sort of way by being a scumsiding 3P.

There was a moment when the Falcon wagon was building up, that Rondo was just acting crazy and doing a bunch of weird shit, then Seanzie called him out and said that Rondo could be the partner trying to distract everyone from Falcon.

If there's another reason...maybe just universally townread while killing a mafia member like I said earlier?

Why are you so much more invested in this game compared to any of the other games we've played together?

I try significantly harder on Syndicate and MafiaUniverse because I'm used to the UI and how the site is laid out.

I'm taking this as a Champs Practice Game since it's not with people that are EMers, I knew it was going to be significantly more active compared to the last two TS games I was in, and I guess it's kind of a mountainous style?
As you can tell I'm starting off super well with misreading Falcon who flipped mafia the first day, but I'm rebounding and trying to help get the last mafia member and the rest of the 3Ps.

[Lime Coke]

Hard shoved Falcon Day 1, to my recollection he was universally townread with the only person scumreading him was the flipped mafia, and if Rondo is Falcon's partner then that's possibly another reason.

Who do you think got cleared off of that day 1?

Spoiler: show

What's in the spoiler is basically the play-by-play on what Falcon did during the game in terms of who he shaded/voted.

Spoiler: show

Falcon's game:
RVS vote on Mizery
Shades Dizzy thinking they're over-doing the drunk posting.
Shades Dragon for the town and scum reads with hedgyness
Jumps onto Srceenplay wagon while Arcbell and I are pushing him.
Questions Arc on his Dizzy read
Heavy shades Mac for asking for explanation then not giving explanation on a read
Talks about Rondo having a lot of posts but no content, but is hedgy and asks others if it's town or scummy of Rondo to do so.
Responds to Seanzie voting Falcon by voting Rondo.
Shades Mizery and I talking about how we're not making our own reads on him
Answers Seanzie's questions but then asks if Seanzie's semantics caring is mafia indicative
Talks about Mac's wolf game and how Mac is wolfy then votes me instead.
Near getting hammered starts to fight Dragon calling him hedgey and lazy because Dragon is simply throwing the "Third times a charm" phrase while voting Falcon and votes him
Talks about Dragon needing to OMGUS Arcbell because Arcbell is voting Dragon, which then compares it to Mac OMGUS'ing Falcon.

The main thing I got from this spew analysis:
Falcon pretty much spews Mac town due to the fact that Falcon complains about Mac's "OMGUS" read on Falcon while talking to Dragon...as he's voting him before getting hammered. Wolfy salt upon being caught by a town I feel.
I feel like this also spews Dragon town as well since it's just more complaining, trying to get someone else to go after someone else.

I had Seanzie town just based on his push on Falcon in general but he died so there's that.


I don't exactly know how to read through spew, those analysis points are the best that I got, if anyone else wants to use it to garner ideas from it feel free to do so.

Spoiler: show

Maybe explain them as well since I kind of want to learn from this.

Inside the spoiler was my first post into Day 2 and it was just analysis of what I saw Falcon doing and what I came out with from it.
(Feel free to check the play by play if you want a quick look to what Falcon did.)

But TLDR to my estimation is that Falcon towards the end of the day was pushing on Dragon, but as he was interacting with Dragon he was basically saying "Don't forget to OMGUS people like Mac just did to me" which kind of feels like bitterness towards Mac's push on him. So it spews Mac town because it's salt about how Mac caught Falcon, and spews Dragon town because he's literally complaining towards Dragon while at the same time voting him.

Why do you think Seanzie was killed over Mac?

Well the main reason would end up being that Rondo is Falcon's partner or was helping Falcon in some sort of way by being a scumsiding 3P.

There was a moment when the Falcon wagon was building up, that Rondo was just acting crazy and doing a bunch of weird shit, then Seanzie called him out and said that Rondo could be the partner trying to distract everyone from Falcon.

If there's another reason...maybe just universally townread while killing a mafia member like I said earlier?

Why are you so much more invested in this game compared to any of the other games we've played together?

I try significantly harder on Syndicate and MafiaUniverse because I'm used to the UI and how the site is laid out.

I'm taking this as a Champs Practice Game since it's not with people that are EMers, I knew it was going to be significantly more active compared to the last two TS games I was in, and I guess it's kind of a mountainous style?
As you can tell I'm starting off super well with misreading Falcon who flipped mafia the first day, but I'm rebounding and trying to help get the last mafia member and the rest of the 3Ps.

Since I'm a backup to Anne on the second reason. ☝

[Arcbell]

I feel so dopey tonight I don't wanna think. How is everyone's day/evening?

[Lumi]

here's where I'm currently at for townies:

dizzy
lc
mizery
seanzie

Why me?

I wondered when you were going to ask that question.

I like these posts. comments within the spoiler

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: seanzie ] aubergine

If it helps, I was going to respond to your post with an Abbott and Costello joke, but for the life of me I couldn't get the wording to work out so I gave up.

I get you being mad about the cold-shoulder though, very natural response.

While fluffy this post makes me feel like you are legitimately engaging with Rondo, not preconceived notions being applied, not posting with an agenda. You seem like you want to legitimately want to solve Rondos alignment.

10 minutes go by and Seanzie is just watching not responding to getting caught

You know I've decided to disengage with you because nothing was coming of our conversation, right?

along the same lines as the first post I town read this one because it's a soft disengage. You're not trying to ghost Rondo, you're not ignoring him, you're saying "Hey, we aren't seeing eye to eye and whether or not that's on me or on you this conversation isn't productive". It's been my experience that town wants to be productive, wolves don't care as much.

Dyslexicon is probably town for how much they're getting their hands dirty in the scumhunting process. Mafia have henchpeople for that.

@Seanzie ..must ...warn ...the others

I'm off btw. Please make everyone who isn't here magically appear.

Nah, you feel fine thus far.

You'll be the first to know if my mind changes about that.

Another post you could have not made and nobody would be the wiser.

Dyslexicon is probably town for how much they're getting their hands dirty in the scumhunting process. Mafia have henchpeople for that.

@Seanzie ..must ...warn ...the others

I'm off btw. Please make everyone who isn't here magically appear.

Nah, you feel fine thus far.

You'll be the first to know if my mind changes about that.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

Can't remember the last time I didn't bother you. Would be really cool if you're town. Also because you're good at it.

I'm actually exhorbantly bad at this game, and have one tool in my tool box (to bark like a mad dog at everything and let other people judge how they react) and am trying to move away from that style of play.

Either way, I sometimes feel fine about you, I just don't usually voice it unless you're getting run up, and you never get run up, so meh.

I like the honesty here. You do have a "meta" of "push someone really hard and shout at the thread hey this is sus" but that style can lead to feels bads, again I town read this because a wolf doesn't necessarily need to make this post, but a townie trying to be genuine feels it's useful.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

someone needs to help me because i can't explain why it feels like i have tmi and can't comprehend a single thing anyone is saying

I mean I am leaning towards falcon as well, there are too many people pushing him for all of them to be wolves. I feel like a lot of the arguments put forward are cogent. However I dont want to hammer so I am sheeping Dragon for now

Falcon is at E-3. While I agree we shouldn't immediately hammer him and instead use the time we have today, I'm not sure how you feel the fear of Falcon being hammered due to your vote is so great to voice such a read but then pivot like this.

I dig the nuance here. Not wanting an early hammer but also calling Rondo out on the pivot again says to me you want to understand and solve Rondo. This reads less like wolf?Seanzie thinking this is a push moment and more like town?Seanzie thinking this is an engagement/solution moment.

Now watch you push Rondo super hard and I have to eat crow or something.

If I preflip Falcon mafia, then Rondo would be the immediate name on my mind. Yours would probably come to mind pretty quick as well.

However, I don't really like doing pre-flip associatives, so I will leave this at that. But yeah, you aren't far off from eating crow.

Rondo, HK = preflip, scumreads if Falcon flips wolf

[Arcbell]

Maybe brad is town after all

[hollowkatt]

god dammit lag stop doing things

Also what do you mean by this?

because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Spoiler: show

That's what you said in your first post. That you'd "given information"

There are no power roles here buckaroo, what information could you possibly need to hide?

Im an open book not hiding at all

Then what information are you referring to? Don't be so cryptic

not being cryptic. you can make a decision and take it just like i did. do you think im wrong or scum.

I’m Dewey.
LimeCoke is confirmed scum this game. That’s all I can say atm but the rest of you should use this information well.

So you're presenting this as if you have some special "information" that you've given us about the game, and now you've said enough and won't be back until day 2. It sounds like you're trying to be mysterious on purpose to get people to believe there's something behind what you're saying. It's inherently deceptive, especially since you're trying to use it as an excuse to slank!!

I think my vote is gonna stay on you for now

i was thinking that screenplay was like suuuuper wrong and was sorta wondering if he was too wrong to be mafia cuz LC and Mizery at this point were just ssooooooo towny to me and I was thinking "I bet if I am right some wolf tries to win townpoints by pushing him for the bad reads" and then you went ahead and did exactly that in like the scummiest sounding shit ever lol

spicy take: LC, Arcbell, and srceenplay are town

Have you played with Srceenplay before and know enough about him?
Would this be normal town play for him?

If you're saying "No" to the first question, why do you find him town?

I have played a few games with him yes. I don't have enough experience with him to know if this is "normal" town behavior, but I like these posts.

Spoiler: show

scum because of unecessary effort

FTFY

The one that you're trying to make on me.

you don't see whats wrong with that?

It's wrong and it's basically trying to shut down the attempt to move the game forward, so it's scummy as hell.

where did the game stop at?

It's wrong and it's basically trying to shut down the attempt to move the game forward, so it's scummy as hell.

where did the game stop at?

Well everyone else ignored your BS after you disappeared the moment you got attention on yourself.
Then you magically reappear the moment Arcbell and I started talking about you being mafia and now you're here trying to be smart mouth with your answers.

fuck, I magically disappeared again

Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

I town read attitude a lot of the time as I find wolves tend to not want to make big waves like that early in the game. Late in the game sure, set up the thunderdomes and what not but at this stage of the game srceen being a wolf and playing like this is basically forcing the other wolf to bus him for cred b/c there's no way he's escaping today yeah?

Srceen is playing super aggro, drawing attention from several players, and then using that attention to drop reads. It's something I've done as town before and something I rarely see wolves do.

i like this read but I think if LC = town and screenplay = town then arcbell is doing like strictly exactly what mafia would do in that situation (and then falcon sort of sheeped it to a lesser degree).

Like remember how this was my first significant read in the game. Bonus points for Falcon sheeping your play and flipping mafia thus demonstrating the mafia utility of what I am describing ie. Falcon has spewed Screenplay town via this.

You keep bringing up how you solved falcon first and pushed him hard (Congrats) Why are you not dead and seanzie is?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Seanzie is such a wtf kill here with zero protectives. Need to iso the guy lol. I thought he was mafia. DDL and I were spewed town way more so killing Seanzie > me is offensive to me lol.

lol

[RondoDimBuckle]

wHy So MaNy LiNeS bEtWeEn StAtEmEnTs

@RondoDimBuckle lol wtf was that

It just seemed to me he was trying to push the posts down to hide posts higher up. It was weird






























You know?

[MacDougall]

pick from the following

1. the mafia thought seanzie was a bigger issue than me
2. the wolves like playing with me more
3 the wolves are dumb

[hollowkatt]

pick from the following

1. the mafia thought seanzie was a bigger issue than me
2. the wolves like playing with me more
3 the wolves are dumb

I feel like the line between 1 and 3 is infinitesimal.

[RondoDimBuckle]

@dyslexicon articulate your porscha read please?

this

[Arcbell]

pick from the following

1. the mafia thought seanzie was a bigger issue than me
2. the wolves like playing with me more
3 the wolves are dumb

4. the wolves liked your other reads more than seanzie's

[RondoDimBuckle]

That night kill blows my fucking mind actually cuz Seanzie damn near spewed himself mafia by trying to save Falcon who then flipped mafia lol. Then he got night killed and flipped town. What in the blue hell lol.

What the fuck are you on, Mac. Lol. I swear, sometimes you are so far away from reality. Sean was the main reason Falcon was chopped and the first to call him out. I 100% expected Sean to be killed here. Lol. Your filter is fun, but it’s the Mac-filter. Now, start over with Rondo and tell me what you think.

wow that's quite rude

I'm not talking to you

I’m correcting your assumption that you’d be an obvious kill and Sean wouldn’t.

Even if I was rude, it’s said in love.

I’m a bit frustrated how you dismiss my Rondo read.

have you played with rondo before?

Nope

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/search.ph ... 0&sr=posts this was their first game on ts and they were town and playing exactly like they are here

Rude, how dare you share my secrets?

[MacDougall]

pick from the following

1. the mafia thought seanzie was a bigger issue than me
2. the wolves like playing with me more
3 the wolves are dumb

4. the wolves liked your other reads more than seanzie's

this is 1