Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:54 pm
I'm trying to sort out your motives because I don't understand them, and I hope that it'll help me read you better.
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I'm trying to sort out your motives because I don't understand them, and I hope that it'll help me read you better.
I want to win, like anyone else.Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:54 pmI'm trying to sort out your motives because I don't understand them, and I hope that it'll help me read you better.
Sean hasn't pressed people?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:57 pm Seanzie isn't trying to make friends and all his messages have been game relevant and inquisitive. he hasn't pressed anyone at all yet which is something I want to see, dunno if he ever presses people to begin with though. and I don't see any possible partners for him
Uhh... what?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:57 pm Seanzie isn't trying to make friends and all his messages have been game relevant and inquisitive. he hasn't pressed anyone at all yet which is something I want to see, dunno if he ever presses people to begin with though. and I don't see any possible partners for him
only a question or two, if anything further it wasn't game related, ender stuff doesn't count because he never got an answer to begin with. just super inquisitive without the aggression and force I'd usually see from that much attention paid to the gameMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:00 pmSean hasn't pressed people?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:57 pm Seanzie isn't trying to make friends and all his messages have been game relevant and inquisitive. he hasn't pressed anyone at all yet which is something I want to see, dunno if he ever presses people to begin with though. and I don't see any possible partners for him
He had a fairly lengthy back and forth with Jay earlier today?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:06 pmonly a question or two, if anything further it wasn't game related, ender stuff doesn't count because he never got an answer to begin with. just super inquisitive without the aggression and force I'd usually see from that much attention paid to the gameMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:00 pmSean hasn't pressed people?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:57 pm Seanzie isn't trying to make friends and all his messages have been game relevant and inquisitive. he hasn't pressed anyone at all yet which is something I want to see, dunno if he ever presses people to begin with though. and I don't see any possible partners for him
two sided, pressing is one sidedMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:10 pmHe had a fairly lengthy back and forth with Jay earlier today?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:06 pmonly a question or two, if anything further it wasn't game related, ender stuff doesn't count because he never got an answer to begin with. just super inquisitive without the aggression and force I'd usually see from that much attention paid to the gameMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:00 pmSean hasn't pressed people?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:57 pm Seanzie isn't trying to make friends and all his messages have been game relevant and inquisitive. he hasn't pressed anyone at all yet which is something I want to see, dunno if he ever presses people to begin with though. and I don't see any possible partners for him
He pressed Jay and he pressed me. I call it a back and forth because two people were involved in the conversation.lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:12 pmtwo sided, pressing is one sidedMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:10 pmHe had a fairly lengthy back and forth with Jay earlier today?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:06 pmonly a question or two, if anything further it wasn't game related, ender stuff doesn't count because he never got an answer to begin with. just super inquisitive without the aggression and force I'd usually see from that much attention paid to the gameMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:00 pmSean hasn't pressed people?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:57 pm Seanzie isn't trying to make friends and all his messages have been game relevant and inquisitive. he hasn't pressed anyone at all yet which is something I want to see, dunno if he ever presses people to begin with though. and I don't see any possible partners for him
ask people questions even after they stop having answers, though it's admittedly unrealistic given the amount of controversy in this game thus far, no sides to pick
Why would you be looking for this behavior specifically for me? Please answer this question, I believe it is important.lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:12 pmtwo sided, pressing is one sidedMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:10 pmHe had a fairly lengthy back and forth with Jay earlier today?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:06 pmonly a question or two, if anything further it wasn't game related, ender stuff doesn't count because he never got an answer to begin with. just super inquisitive without the aggression and force I'd usually see from that much attention paid to the gameMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:00 pmSean hasn't pressed people?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:57 pm Seanzie isn't trying to make friends and all his messages have been game relevant and inquisitive. he hasn't pressed anyone at all yet which is something I want to see, dunno if he ever presses people to begin with though. and I don't see any possible partners for him
more aggression, but he's also a person I don't know and he might just be different, I think he's town as of nowMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:13 pmHe pressed Jay and he pressed me. I call it a back and forth because two people were involved in the conversation.lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:12 pmtwo sided, pressing is one sidedMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:10 pmHe had a fairly lengthy back and forth with Jay earlier today?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:06 pmonly a question or two, if anything further it wasn't game related, ender stuff doesn't count because he never got an answer to begin with. just super inquisitive without the aggression and force I'd usually see from that much attention paid to the gameMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:00 pmSean hasn't pressed people?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:57 pm Seanzie isn't trying to make friends and all his messages have been game relevant and inquisitive. he hasn't pressed anyone at all yet which is something I want to see, dunno if he ever presses people to begin with though. and I don't see any possible partners for him
But now I'm really confused, what sort of pressing are you looking for from him?
because you're reading everything and responding with a fine tooth comb, actually putting a decent amount of work into formulating your own reads and responding to odd messages and getting into arguments based off specific wording. being more aggressive would be relative to the effort a player has put into the gameSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:13 pmWhy would you be looking for this behavior specifically for me? Please answer this question, I believe it is important.lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:12 pmtwo sided, pressing is one sidedMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:10 pmHe had a fairly lengthy back and forth with Jay earlier today?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:06 pmonly a question or two, if anything further it wasn't game related, ender stuff doesn't count because he never got an answer to begin with. just super inquisitive without the aggression and force I'd usually see from that much attention paid to the gameMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:00 pmSean hasn't pressed people?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:57 pm Seanzie isn't trying to make friends and all his messages have been game relevant and inquisitive. he hasn't pressed anyone at all yet which is something I want to see, dunno if he ever presses people to begin with though. and I don't see any possible partners for him
Nah, Lucy's got meta on me she shouldn't have. No one expects a random townie to be one-sided pressing/tunneling with more aggression, but this describes my particular townplay pretty well (at least most games).lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:14 pmmore aggression, but he's also a person I don't know and he might just be different, I think he's town as of nowMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:13 pmHe pressed Jay and he pressed me. I call it a back and forth because two people were involved in the conversation.lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:12 pmtwo sided, pressing is one sidedMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:10 pmHe had a fairly lengthy back and forth with Jay earlier today?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:06 pmonly a question or two, if anything further it wasn't game related, ender stuff doesn't count because he never got an answer to begin with. just super inquisitive without the aggression and force I'd usually see from that much attention paid to the gameMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:00 pmSean hasn't pressed people?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:57 pm Seanzie isn't trying to make friends and all his messages have been game relevant and inquisitive. he hasn't pressed anyone at all yet which is something I want to see, dunno if he ever presses people to begin with though. and I don't see any possible partners for him
But now I'm really confused, what sort of pressing are you looking for from him?
I'm forcing myself to give reads, read your iso in a few minutes. I literally explained my deduction for why I expect more aggression and that you haven't pressed and tunneled was oddSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:17 pmNah, Lucy's got meta on me she shouldn't have. No one expects a random townie to be one-sided pressing/tunneling with more aggression, but this describes my particular townplay pretty well (at least most games).lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:14 pmmore aggression, but he's also a person I don't know and he might just be different, I think he's town as of nowMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:13 pmHe pressed Jay and he pressed me. I call it a back and forth because two people were involved in the conversation.lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:12 pmtwo sided, pressing is one sidedMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:10 pmHe had a fairly lengthy back and forth with Jay earlier today?
But now I'm really confused, what sort of pressing are you looking for from him?
Also clearly isn't actually paying attention to me or truly trying to sort me right now
I am that good, looking for nothing but I pointed out something I found oddMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:19 pm I think sean is an aggressive player. Different than Mac, but still agressive, I think he has done that this game.
But I agree with sean, I don't know why you are looking for that specifically from him unless you either knew that was his meta, or are that good at picking up on players' playstyles, or have gathered that meta from the thread.
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:16 pmbecause you're reading everything and responding with a fine tooth comb, actually putting a decent amount of work into formulating your own reads and responding to odd messages and getting into arguments based off specific wording. being more aggressive would be relative to the effort a player has put into the gameSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:13 pmWhy would you be looking for this behavior specifically for me? Please answer this question, I believe it is important.lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:12 pmtwo sided, pressing is one sidedMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:10 pmHe had a fairly lengthy back and forth with Jay earlier today?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:06 pmonly a question or two, if anything further it wasn't game related, ender stuff doesn't count because he never got an answer to begin with. just super inquisitive without the aggression and force I'd usually see from that much attention paid to the gameMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:00 pmSean hasn't pressed people?lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:57 pm Seanzie isn't trying to make friends and all his messages have been game relevant and inquisitive. he hasn't pressed anyone at all yet which is something I want to see, dunno if he ever presses people to begin with though. and I don't see any possible partners for him
probably because in my discord games I experienced 5x more aggression and like 2.5x that aggression in my qualifierMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:23 pmlucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:16 pmbecause you're reading everything and responding with a fine tooth comb, actually putting a decent amount of work into formulating your own reads and responding to odd messages and getting into arguments based off specific wording. being more aggressive would be relative to the effort a player has put into the gameSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:13 pmWhy would you be looking for this behavior specifically for me? Please answer this question, I believe it is important.lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:12 pmtwo sided, pressing is one sidedMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:10 pmHe had a fairly lengthy back and forth with Jay earlier today?
I think the blue part is accurate, but I don't understand how that isn't already the pink part and why you would expect more.
I wouldn't call it impossible, but I also unfortunately don't know the answer to that question because I don't know you.
he's more mature than you, or has played more. either way I expect to see no real emotion from unless someone does something mod kill worthy
Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:28 am Creature has several strings of posts next to each other containing game related stuff. I am still peeved by him ignoring my question, but I have learned the hard way that someone ignoring you doesn't make them scum.
I lean him town because of the post strings (on phone rn so can't quote them).
I had early misgivings on Falcon due to his change of tone from the quali, but I decided to not push there but read what else he'd produce, since it is a weak thing to scum read someone for. The fact that Falcon got pushed by a few peeps made me think that Falcon could be a set-up for D1 misyeet but I haven't really felt any townie vibes from Falcon so..
Marmot is the player has the most scum equity. He isn't taking part of much discussion, is basically just there trying to stay relevant. However now when I know that he has been away because of allergies, it does feel like my conclusion is made on wrong premises. Again, I am comparing qualis, but I wolf read Marmot that game and he was town. He also contributed a lot to discussion. Now I have felt some of Marmot's posts surface townie but lacking in content. Another thing is Marmot complaining about us posting a lot, when he was a high poster in his quali.
Those are my takes
Haha, so you find me immature enough to get super emotional while playing, but then you're not seeing that so you're confused. Meh, I can be pretty immature, but hopefully I hold my emotions in enough most of the time.
again, I am just that goodSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:35 pmHaha, so you find me immature enough to get super emotional while playing, but then you're not seeing that so you're confused. Meh, I can be pretty immature, but hopefully I hold my emotions in enough most of the time.
Anyways, I misread Lucy's original post that kinda spurred this discussion, it isn't as clear as I thought that she has meta on me that she shouldn't otherwise have.
Well, your read on me still doesn't really make sense and suggests you need to read my ISO more carefully, but that is a fight I don't feel like fighting, so I'll leave it at that.lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:36 pmagain, I am just that goodSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:35 pmHaha, so you find me immature enough to get super emotional while playing, but then you're not seeing that so you're confused. Meh, I can be pretty immature, but hopefully I hold my emotions in enough most of the time.
Anyways, I misread Lucy's original post that kinda spurred this discussion, it isn't as clear as I thought that she has meta on me that she shouldn't otherwise have.
that's my meta btwSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:38 pmWell, your read on me still doesn't really make sense and suggests you need to read my ISO more carefully, but that is a fight I don't feel like fighting, so I'll leave it at that.lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:36 pmagain, I am just that goodSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:35 pmHaha, so you find me immature enough to get super emotional while playing, but then you're not seeing that so you're confused. Meh, I can be pretty immature, but hopefully I hold my emotions in enough most of the time.
Anyways, I misread Lucy's original post that kinda spurred this discussion, it isn't as clear as I thought that she has meta on me that she shouldn't otherwise have.
Well, I think JJJ/Sean can be added to the "not w/w" chart, for starters. I think they were talking past each other in that argument. I still trust JJJ, partly because wolves in general want to keep the POE as open as possible and looking at interactions like he's doing is a way of narrowing it. None of it is "clearing", and JJJ isn't claiming that it is, it's just a way to help focus our attention. The other two that were in my top 4 yesterday were Boq and Lucy who I still feel mostly good about, though they've both dropped off a bit today so there hasn't been as much to go on. I'm more interested in the middle Falcon voters today (Fingersplints/Creature/Dizzy/Ender), less interested in the late voters (you and Lucy jumped on near EOD when I wouldn't expect wolves to pile on a runaway town flip). I was also feeling good about Marmot going into today, mainly because I thought their reasoning for sussing Ender near EOD was a good thread to pull, and game state wise I wouldn't expect a wolf to start a late wagon when they could just coast to the misyeet that was already in progress. So the sus going their way today has me wondering if I'm missing something.