The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:13 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:07 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:16 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:55 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:49 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:36 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:31 pm

"In Courage I genuinely thought you were bad." -Golden

Golden was mafia.

I don't see how you were genuine. You were decidedly not genuine because you were bad.

I believed he was also bad.

When there are two bad factions, do you have no genuine baddie reads hunting for the other side?

There was one bad faction and an Egyptian independent.

An independent with role secrets who was clearly messing with everyone and couldn’t be nightkilled. That’s right. If it was an outright serial killer you wouldn’t argue against it being bad.

I’m done with this convo and if you insist on pushing it I’ll sub out. I know this is a game of lying but you push your accusations against my character too far. I explained that was genuine AFTER THE GAME and before this one existed. There is no need for me to lie at that time. It is not a lie, it is what happened.

Your character isn't in question. You are free to lie and cheat as much as you please. That's fair game.

Your agenda here is in question. And that's fair game too. If you want to sub out, sub out. I'm not going to be bullied into not talking about what I wish to discuss because you threaten me with that.

It’s not my agenda. I’m not the one comparing this game to courage. You should ask TH his agenda. He’s the one who is trying to create doubt by using a previous game where I was mafia to shade me here.

My only agenda is defending the aspects of untruth levelled at me.

It's my opinion. You were on the only bad team in the game. You were not genuinely hunting mafia. That's my view. It isn't changing. I modded the game. The previous game has been raised as a something to discuss, so I will discuss it, and I don't disagree with TH. I disagree with you. Get over it.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:03 am I'd say my biggest problem with Enrique are these two elements:

Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:57 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:56 am I don't worry about Glorfindel. It he's good, people can consider what he says. And mafia will have no choice but to kill him early.

Yeah I've been thinking about this meta and I don't really get it lol. Is this how it usually goes? He must make a really terrible bad guy, right?

In my head, this sounds like, "Really? People actually buy this shit? Meaning we have to kill Glorfindel instead of lynch him? What the hell?"

Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:02 pm glorfindel and epignosis are good imo

I have no idea why I'm lumped in there with Glorfindel, and no explanation is offered. He said, " Glorfindel and Epignosis are my main town reads. Glorf calling SQ's post reasoned etc. was hilarious and weird but I believe his meta stuff." That came later, but again, there's no explanation as to why I'm there.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:05 am Actually Enrique has had a go at me for my poll choices. Quite a few people have at this point.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:20 am This is all about lying in the games Golden. That's like... that's like what mafia is.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:20 am This is all about lying in the games Golden. That's like... that's like what mafia is.

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:58 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:54 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:51 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:46 pm I don’t care, I think you’re town and if I put you on the poll, you get lynched and come back town, then no one can tell me it’s my behaviour that’s antitown.

Disagree.

Seriously?

If I correctly townread someone you believe it’s Antiguan for me to accurately protect them? You think the town thing to do is allow the mislynch?

I completely forgot that the mafia in this game is supposed to lie, so this post makes sense to me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:21 am Why is nobody listening to me. I am actually pointing out important stuff here. This game is paralysed by idiocy.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:48 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:08 pm Nova was on sokoth early, and sokoth was not one of the leading wagons. When sokoth took the lead, nova tried to divert others to seeing Luna as bad while not being willing to swing that way himself.

This has all the hallmarks of distancing becoming bussing to me. It’s like something I would do.

This.

Also nova is one of the few people who have played with Soneji recently, and would know he is a good player. Giving him a reason to off him on night 1. The other one would be Epi, who won a big game with him as scum a few years ago. I bet one of nova or Epi is bad.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:54 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:13 pm Luna and speed are the ones I feel best about out of that lynch.

I don't feel that good about Luna, she was kind of hesitating about voting Sokoth, until I told her it was self-defense, and even then she took ser sweet time.

I think there are a few who look worse though. Namely nova, DH, Colin and maybe you too.

TH also gives me chills because he disappeared from the game right before the Sokoth wagon started.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:21 am Why is nobody listening to me. I am actually pointing out important stuff here. This game is paralysed by idiocy.

I am listening. I have a strong town read on you and I’m reading every word. I did tell you people should stop spending all their effort on me. Epi and TH are literally spending all their effort on the last game when I was mafia instead of me in this one.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:02 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:59 pm Eh I don't put much stock for or against the nova conspiracy theory. A vote is a vote, it may carry ill intent but it also contains WIFOM.

I kind of not feel so good about nova yesterday. I wanna lynch either him or TH.

Is this literally the first time we’ve ever been reading the game the same way?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:06 pm Nova and I were the first two people to vote for Sokoth so idk what thread you boys are reading tbqh, we're basically heroes

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:07 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:01 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:59 pm Eh I don't put much stock for or against the nova conspiracy theory. A vote is a vote, it may carry ill intent but it also contains WIFOM.

I kind of not feel so good about nova yesterday. I wanna lynch either him or TH.

Who are your top townreads?

Besides Glorf

Golden, INH.

Everybody else is either neutral or bad and I thank you for helping me notice that. I need to look at some of those neutrals.

Or rather, they need to post more. Too many inactive in this game.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:26 am Colin dying was the worst thing to happen in this game. He was the supertown we needed and had his head in the right place. Epi, Golden, TH and DharmaHelper are all playing games within the game while the villains are just standing around waving their dicks in their faces.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:21 am Why is nobody listening to me. I am actually pointing out important stuff here. This game is paralysed by idiocy.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:28 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:26 am Colin dying was the worst thing to happen in this game. He was the supertown we needed and had his head in the right place. Epi, Golden, TH and DharmaHelper are all playing games within the game while the villains are just standing around waving their dicks in their faces.

Hey Mac, please stop waving your dick in my face. I told you this magnifying glass wasn't going to help. Thanks.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:12 pm okay let's stop horsing around and get Enrique

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:34 am [VOTE: INH] aubergine

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:04 am

Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:19 pm I feel like a lot of the ongoing discussions are dead-ends. GTH I don't think DDL is bad, he's just being really clumsy lol. Mac is laying pretty low, but we did just start and I don't think his activity so far is indicative of alignment. Glorfindel is all over sig for what looks like nothing to me but... I remember Glorf's first game, and I believe the talk about his meta. sig has been fine.

Got a funny feeling about speedchuck but he hasn't been around a lot and I don't want to contribute to a possible pile-up. Leaving a placeholder vote on Colin for now for no good reason.

I would be okay with an Enrique lynch today. I see nothing by empty opinions in his ISO. This being a prime example.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:28 am You get no credit at all Enrique - both the glorf and Marmot picks were discussed with my crew and what I felt was closest to the team thread consensus. I’m not running captaincy by dictatorship.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:27 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:06 pm Nova and I were the first two people to vote for Sokoth so idk what thread you boys are reading tbqh, we're basically heroes

Townie McTownface over here Towning Like a Town

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:58 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:56 pm @Turnhip Head What happened to our cash? I haven't been remunerated in a while captain.

Seriously?

I would call that concerning. Why haven’t you raised it before?

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:33 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:28 am You get no credit at all Enrique - both the glorf and Marmot picks were discussed with my crew and what I felt was closest to the team thread consensus. I’m not running captaincy by dictatorship.

Not surprised your team wouldn't want to keep fucking over the town like you were. It had to have been change or mutiny.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:27 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:06 pm Nova and I were the first two people to vote for Sokoth so idk what thread you boys are reading tbqh, we're basically heroes

Townie McTownface over here Towning Like a Town

Lots of getting at him and painting him orange but no intention of putting your vote where your mouth is whatsoever. This isn't going unnoticed.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:45 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:41 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:29 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:45 pm
Who was it that lit the fire under that appalling Dr Wilgy wagon? Yes, our friend Epi with that excerpt of Dan’s post allegedly implicating Wilgy. I didn’t buy it and have been proven right in not having done so.

Here is where I discredit Glorfindel, just for fun.

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:57 am I’ll confess, I’m a little conflicted about the poll as it is at present. The TH wagon itself looks kinda OK but I can’t quite fathom why friend Turnip Head is a wagon in the first place. If I was TH (Captain of a ship) and was Mafia and I knew that we’d have a potentially limited poll today (effectively 6 but it could’ve been less) I think it’d be a pretty ballsy (read idiotic) move to put myself on the poll as my team’s representative. Mind, I’m perplexed why he would do that if he were Town...?

Wilgy? OK, I’ll agree that mention of Dan’s is not a good look but on its own, I’m not sure how conclusive it is. I find the fact that Epi dropped that vote on Wilgy as he did and then promptly disappeared back into the inky void to be a trifle disconcerting.

Selecting someone from this list today is something of a conundrum...

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:45 pm I didn’t buy it and have been proven right in not having done so.

You say you didn't "buy" what I said about DrWilgy, but the above is the only comment you made about him in relation to that post. You said you agreed that the Sokoth mention was not good for him, but other than that, you said nothing about not "buying it." Might be the closest you've ever come to having told a lie, Glorfy. I'd love to have you on the dark side.

As far as I can tell, Glorfindel, you haven't voted for a single person to be lynched. You didn't vote Day 2. You didn't vote Day 3. I don't think you voted Day 1. Why not?

I'm going to be honest with you now: If you want to have a go at me for my vote, you need to be voting too. Calling Golden honorable means nothing to me. Saying you are a civilian means nothing to me. Helping a crew with a mission means nothing to me. None of it means anything to me if you don't vote to kill somebody.

So don't proclaim being a civilian. That doesn't help. Voting helps. Every Day. Even if it's for me.

Thank you Epi. You’ve proved my point. Even I wasn’t convinced by Dan’s reference to Wiley. “Not a good look” is nowhere near the same as the approach you took - being so convinced that Dan’s remark was evidence of Wilgy’s alignment that you chose to throw your vote on Wilgy then and there (if my memory serves me correctly. I called your approach disengenious and you trying to defend that here just makes it look more so. And no, I’m not going to vote to lynch someone I don’t think is bad - not even if you’re on their wagon. I will however happily vote for someone I do think is sus...

You called me "disconcerting" on Day 3, not "disingenuous."

Lie #2 Glorfindel.

I had more to say about Wilgy than what Sokoth said, but you're not here to vote out mafia anyway, so...

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:42 pm I want more talk on INH. Why isn’t he bad in the context of yesterday’s lynch?

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:15 pm I do think it's likely there's scum other than sokoth on the Luna wagon. I don't think it's DDL. That leaves DH, owner and inh.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:41 pm You know it's really annoying to see people calling me "fucking terrible" and "inconsistency and contradictory".

Yes my playstyle is loose and crazy. I change my votes all the time. I do things for personal reasons and don't bother to explain them. I post whatever random thoughts come to my mind without worrying if that's consistent with my previous posts or whatever. I don't care, I like to be free to do whatever I feel like, specially because I'm a way more controlled person irl and here is where I get to be random.

You wanna point out that I'm being scummy, fine. Look at my posts and find for things that look like lies, or fabricated, or artificial, or buddying, or bussing, or things that are, you know, actually related to a guy who got a baddie role card and must pretend he's a civ. But don't say I'm bad because I'm being random. I am random.

/rant

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:37 am

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:15 pm I do think it's likely there's scum other than sokoth on the Luna wagon. I don't think it's DDL. That leaves DH, owner and inh.

Don't think it's DDL hey?

Golden. Plz.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:37 am

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:15 pm I do think it's likely there's scum other than sokoth on the Luna wagon. I don't think it's DDL. That leaves DH, owner and inh.

Don't think it's DDL hey?

Golden. Plz.

FFS maci don’t hard defend teammates and I never will.

I genuinely don’t think DDL is bad. Could I be wrong? Of course - your points are compelling. But I’ve found him sincere.

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:36 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:45 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:41 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:29 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:45 pm
Who was it that lit the fire under that appalling Dr Wilgy wagon? Yes, our friend Epi with that excerpt of Dan’s post allegedly implicating Wilgy. I didn’t buy it and have been proven right in not having done so.

Here is where I discredit Glorfindel, just for fun.

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:57 am I’ll confess, I’m a little conflicted about the poll as it is at present. The TH wagon itself looks kinda OK but I can’t quite fathom why friend Turnip Head is a wagon in the first place. If I was TH (Captain of a ship) and was Mafia and I knew that we’d have a potentially limited poll today (effectively 6 but it could’ve been less) I think it’d be a pretty ballsy (read idiotic) move to put myself on the poll as my team’s representative. Mind, I’m perplexed why he would do that if he were Town...?

Wilgy? OK, I’ll agree that mention of Dan’s is not a good look but on its own, I’m not sure how conclusive it is. I find the fact that Epi dropped that vote on Wilgy as he did and then promptly disappeared back into the inky void to be a trifle disconcerting.

Selecting someone from this list today is something of a conundrum...

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:45 pm I didn’t buy it and have been proven right in not having done so.

You say you didn't "buy" what I said about DrWilgy, but the above is the only comment you made about him in relation to that post. You said you agreed that the Sokoth mention was not good for him, but other than that, you said nothing about not "buying it." Might be the closest you've ever come to having told a lie, Glorfy. I'd love to have you on the dark side.

As far as I can tell, Glorfindel, you haven't voted for a single person to be lynched. You didn't vote Day 2. You didn't vote Day 3. I don't think you voted Day 1. Why not?

I'm going to be honest with you now: If you want to have a go at me for my vote, you need to be voting too. Calling Golden honorable means nothing to me. Saying you are a civilian means nothing to me. Helping a crew with a mission means nothing to me. None of it means anything to me if you don't vote to kill somebody.

So don't proclaim being a civilian. That doesn't help. Voting helps. Every Day. Even if it's for me.

Thank you Epi. You’ve proved my point. Even I wasn’t convinced by Dan’s reference to Wiley. “Not a good look” is nowhere near the same as the approach you took - being so convinced that Dan’s remark was evidence of Wilgy’s alignment that you chose to throw your vote on Wilgy then and there (if my memory serves me correctly. I called your approach disengenious and you trying to defend that here just makes it look more so. And no, I’m not going to vote to lynch someone I don’t think is bad - not even if you’re on their wagon. I will however happily vote for someone I do think is sus...

You called me "disconcerting" on Day 3, not "disingenuous."

Lie #2 Glorfindel.

I had more to say about Wilgy than what Sokoth said, but you're not here to vote out mafia anyway, so...

No, I called you disingenuous...

Spoiler: show

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:45 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:33 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:23 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:17 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:07 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:01 pm

Who else do you think this applies to?

You are having me on, are you not?

No?

I’m not saying that you are wrong in the application of your logic and the conclusions that you’ve drawn but I fear that you are failing to keep an entirely open mind to what is happening in this game, my friend.

I don’t understand what you’re seeing. Can you be more clear?

Who was it that lit the fire under that appalling Dr Wilgy wagon? Yes, our friend Epi with that excerpt of Dan’s post allegedly implicating Wilgy. I didn’t buy it and have been proven right in not having done so. Yeah, it’s been an age since I’ve played here but my recollections of having played with Epi are still strong. The Epi I remember would never have accepted so blindly such a disingenuous case brought up by anyone else so why was he satisfied to do so himself on this occasion? Where is that laser-like analysis of which he is capable? Where in fact IS he? He’s barely posted. Why is no one talking about him? He’s one of the best and most experienced players on this site. I don’t know about you but I smell a very big, stinky rat...

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:36 am I don’t mean to appear at all rude but may I ask why you’re still here? I think I’ve got a pretty good grasp of the prominent players on this site and to be honest, if I were Mafia, I’d consider having ‘Town Epi’ running free would be an unacceptable risk and NK the first chance I got. Just goes to show, the players that have been Nk’d seem harmless in comparison.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:13 am
It's my opinion. You were on the only bad team in the game. You were not genuinely hunting mafia. That's my view. It isn't changing. I modded the game. The previous game has been raised as a something to discuss, so I will discuss it, and I don't disagree with TH. I disagree with you. Get over it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:40 am If the scum team is DDL, Enrique, Golden and INH that would be on the shortlist of the worst possible team to have to contend with I could come up with.

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:47 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:40 am If the scum team is DDL, Enrique, Golden and INH that would be on the shortlist of the worst possible team to have to contend with I could come up with.

While you're at it you should read my posts on Golden + crew and figure out how they relate to DDL. The posts on the Serenity too. This whole thing where he wanted to put Glorfindel on the poll every night would have 100% won him the game as scum if his crew (including teammate DDL and potentially more) had let him get away with it. Getting Marmot on was an improvement but even he's downplaying it ("it was a democratic decision"). His crew went from being the most talked about players of Day 1 to being shielded for the rest of the game supposedly because Golden immediately town-read all of them and wouldn't let us challenge him on that.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:42 am You keep telling me that you've read my points. That they're compelling. You haven't given me your perspective in anything other than surface level thumbs up.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:47 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:13 am
It's my opinion. You were on the only bad team in the game. You were not genuinely hunting mafia. That's my view. It isn't changing. I modded the game. The previous game has been raised as a something to discuss, so I will discuss it, and I don't disagree with TH. I disagree with you. Get over it.

Sorry but I have to side with Golden here. You don't get to disagree on someone's feelings or mental state.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:21 am Why is nobody listening to me. I am actually pointing out important stuff here. This game is paralysed by idiocy.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:47 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:13 am
It's my opinion. You were on the only bad team in the game. You were not genuinely hunting mafia. That's my view. It isn't changing. I modded the game. The previous game has been raised as a something to discuss, so I will discuss it, and I don't disagree with TH. I disagree with you. Get over it.

Sorry but I have to side with Golden here. You don't get to disagree on someone's feelings or mental state.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:28 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:27 pm Can we CFD Enrique please?

I'm in

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:42 am You keep telling me that you've read my points. That they're compelling. You haven't given me your perspective in anything other than surface level thumbs up.

Yeah, I’m trying not to emotionally invest right now. I really do need to walk away. But I’ll come back to it in more depth later.

As for clearing out my crew - I will put glorf up again if I think you’re trying to make my life harder. I can fire anyone I actually think is bad, I’ve said this before. If you can’t convince me with words, you won’t convince me by trying to use mechanics against me.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:50 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:47 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:13 am
It's my opinion. You were on the only bad team in the game. You were not genuinely hunting mafia. That's my view. It isn't changing. I modded the game. The previous game has been raised as a something to discuss, so I will discuss it, and I don't disagree with TH. I disagree with you. Get over it.

Sorry but I have to side with Golden here. You don't get to disagree on someone's feelings or mental state.

I can disagree if someone calls himself "genuine."

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:26 am Colin dying was the worst thing to happen in this game. He was the supertown we needed and had his head in the right place. Epi, Golden, TH and DharmaHelper are all playing games within the game while the villains are just standing around waving their dicks in their faces.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:42 am You keep telling me that you've read my points. That they're compelling. You haven't given me your perspective in anything other than surface level thumbs up.

Yeah, I’m trying not to emotionally invest right now. I really do need to walk away. But I’ll come back to it in more depth later.

As for clearing out my crew - I will put glorf up again if I think you’re trying to make my life harder. I can fire anyone I actually think is bad, I’ve said this before. If you can’t convince me with words, you won’t convince me by trying to use mechanics against me.