Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:14 am

i'm so readyMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:11 am Except for Nut, she's just town, sorry about your n1 death.
@nutella which of these reads is glaringly, stunningly incorrect to you?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:11 am At risk of target painting here is where I am at. I should probs point out that my reads are probably a little bit ... erm ... polarised I guess is the word. In that I have an easy world (LC, Grogu and co) and a hard world (Alison and who cares) that probably don't cross pollinate. At first I thought that all my homies were just outing themselves as town but the more I dwell and the more I read the more I worry that they have just levelled so much that I shouldn't really ever trust that kinda shit. Except for Nut, she's just town, sorry about your n1 death.
Alison: To borrow a term, Alison has town "markers" that sadly she is more than capable of "passing" as mafia and does not struggle to do so at all. To me Alison is revealed as mafia when she has to powerwolf. I believe I have seen some instances of her shifting into illogical positions briefly for the benefit of the mafia. I could be paranoid. I have her as a scumlean.
DaughterofOmega: I have no meta here obviously. I cannot immediately equate her playstyle to anyone else to apply like meta. However her threadfeel has been terse and a little bit negative (not in a bad way, she just feels negative) and that PROBABLY would be a meta tell if I knew anything about her but I do not. Applying general standards to her play, I don't feel like she has passed through any range "markers" or anything so she is POE. I have concerns about her handling from other players that lean into this tinfoil. Doesn't hurt that she seems to think I am mafia for some reason. Scumlean.
DKKoba: Kind of the inverse of DOO. I also have no meta here but they feel like an easy read tbh (sorry). Koba has this lighthearted threadfeel and air of confusion. I don't sense that there is any TMI or anything here. They just seem to be floating through the game au naturale. I have this person as a town lean.
Ellie: A little bit more of a townie threadfeel than Alison but I don't like their analysis and their choice of pushes. I have sensed no townie mindset in their reads and they lack solviness/feel more performative. Scumlean.
Esooa: I worry about her. I don't think she is out of her scumrange. I'm not sure that she ever will get out of her scumrange. Esooa needs to generate results and push onto mafia for me to issue her with a solid townread. I would say townlean though.
Grogu: Derp. I guess just like obvious mafia probably I dunno. I hate analysing slots like these because they just self resolve. Scum.
JaggedJimmyJay: I have agreed with most of Jay's takes. I have not sensed any effort from him to alter the course of things and the game has felt townsided so far. I reserve judgement a little because he kinda FEELS a bit like scum Jay (more light hearted, chill than usual) but the information says otherwise at this time. Town.
Long Con: Is in his scum range. Looks like scum LC. Getting up to 7 voters early in the day on day 1 is usually a major sign it's a townie though. Hectic spew off that wagon formation if this does flip mafia. Scum.
Mac: Hot hands sex man.
Made: I am gonna say town and contradict myself from a few mins ago. I think that his comment about me thinking he's in his scumrange was townie and probably townie enough to flip my read. Made feels scummy but keeps townslipping so that is probably... actually no that is very towny. Town.
Michelle: I think she is town unless she is part of a third mafia world where I haven't actually gotten to. I feel like getting stroppy and telling Esooa to behave is very towny lol.
Nook: Ehhhhoooo I think town. We'll see. Nah he's town. He said a thing or two that makes him just town. I don't like, read Nook on his pushes or whatever cuz he (like me) is super okay with being wrong and so if he has reads that differ to mine it means fuck all. His mindset is just there as town. He answered me a few times with towny answers. It's just town Nook again.
Nut: Old school mindmeld as fuck with this one. It's impossible for us to mindmeld if she is mafia. Literally lock town. If she is mafia I will I dunno do something drastic and embarrassing for everyone's amusement.
SPF: I was toddling along getting scumvibes in catch up and then I was like "wait I did this before then she was town" and then she suddenly was magically town. Then someone (I think it was Koba) was like "if you think SPF is mafia day 1 flip ur read it's magic" and I was like hey fuck that's so so true. Town.
Tutuu: See Esooa read. Reserved townlean.
Knock yourselves out kids.
Yeah she and Nanook kinda fell off a cliffMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:12 amthe part I like is that alison isn't in thisJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:03 am tutuu town
Mac town
nutella town
SPF town
Michelle town
DkKoba town
Esooa town
If this is correct it’s a solve
It probably also has to do with my unwillingness to commit to a jay or alison read D1NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:13 amNot sure! Could be cause I’m wrong, could be cause the game is harder than it seems, too early to really tell imo. Need some flips!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:02 amfairstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:00 amyes actually, but i concluded that there's no way for me to realistically catch him today if that's the case
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why do you think your reads have been so against-the-grain so far?
yeah I think I have to pay pretty close attention to which of her takes could potentially be shoved in to push an agenda in order to really solve herMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:11 am I believe I have seen some instances of her shifting into illogical positions briefly for the benefit of the mafia.
I accept your unbridled terrorNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:16 amIt probably also has to do with my unwillingness to commit to a jay or alison read D1
none lol. obv the one i disagree most on is omega, but it's not strongMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:15 am@nutella which of these reads is glaringly, stunningly incorrect to you?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:11 am At risk of target painting here is where I am at. I should probs point out that my reads are probably a little bit ... erm ... polarised I guess is the word. In that I have an easy world (LC, Grogu and co) and a hard world (Alison and who cares) that probably don't cross pollinate. At first I thought that all my homies were just outing themselves as town but the more I dwell and the more I read the more I worry that they have just levelled so much that I shouldn't really ever trust that kinda shit. Except for Nut, she's just town, sorry about your n1 death.
Alison: To borrow a term, Alison has town "markers" that sadly she is more than capable of "passing" as mafia and does not struggle to do so at all. To me Alison is revealed as mafia when she has to powerwolf. I believe I have seen some instances of her shifting into illogical positions briefly for the benefit of the mafia. I could be paranoid. I have her as a scumlean.
DaughterofOmega: I have no meta here obviously. I cannot immediately equate her playstyle to anyone else to apply like meta. However her threadfeel has been terse and a little bit negative (not in a bad way, she just feels negative) and that PROBABLY would be a meta tell if I knew anything about her but I do not. Applying general standards to her play, I don't feel like she has passed through any range "markers" or anything so she is POE. I have concerns about her handling from other players that lean into this tinfoil. Doesn't hurt that she seems to think I am mafia for some reason. Scumlean.
DKKoba: Kind of the inverse of DOO. I also have no meta here but they feel like an easy read tbh (sorry). Koba has this lighthearted threadfeel and air of confusion. I don't sense that there is any TMI or anything here. They just seem to be floating through the game au naturale. I have this person as a town lean.
Ellie: A little bit more of a townie threadfeel than Alison but I don't like their analysis and their choice of pushes. I have sensed no townie mindset in their reads and they lack solviness/feel more performative. Scumlean.
Esooa: I worry about her. I don't think she is out of her scumrange. I'm not sure that she ever will get out of her scumrange. Esooa needs to generate results and push onto mafia for me to issue her with a solid townread. I would say townlean though.
Grogu: Derp. I guess just like obvious mafia probably I dunno. I hate analysing slots like these because they just self resolve. Scum.
JaggedJimmyJay: I have agreed with most of Jay's takes. I have not sensed any effort from him to alter the course of things and the game has felt townsided so far. I reserve judgement a little because he kinda FEELS a bit like scum Jay (more light hearted, chill than usual) but the information says otherwise at this time. Town.
Long Con: Is in his scum range. Looks like scum LC. Getting up to 7 voters early in the day on day 1 is usually a major sign it's a townie though. Hectic spew off that wagon formation if this does flip mafia. Scum.
Mac: Hot hands sex man.
Made: I am gonna say town and contradict myself from a few mins ago. I think that his comment about me thinking he's in his scumrange was townie and probably townie enough to flip my read. Made feels scummy but keeps townslipping so that is probably... actually no that is very towny. Town.
Michelle: I think she is town unless she is part of a third mafia world where I haven't actually gotten to. I feel like getting stroppy and telling Esooa to behave is very towny lol.
Nook: Ehhhhoooo I think town. We'll see. Nah he's town. He said a thing or two that makes him just town. I don't like, read Nook on his pushes or whatever cuz he (like me) is super okay with being wrong and so if he has reads that differ to mine it means fuck all. His mindset is just there as town. He answered me a few times with towny answers. It's just town Nook again.
Nut: Old school mindmeld as fuck with this one. It's impossible for us to mindmeld if she is mafia. Literally lock town. If she is mafia I will I dunno do something drastic and embarrassing for everyone's amusement.
SPF: I was toddling along getting scumvibes in catch up and then I was like "wait I did this before then she was town" and then she suddenly was magically town. Then someone (I think it was Koba) was like "if you think SPF is mafia day 1 flip ur read it's magic" and I was like hey fuck that's so so true. Town.
Tutuu: See Esooa read. Reserved townlean.
Knock yourselves out kids.
I'll tell you what. I think that the only way you don't die n1 is if Alison is mafia. Guess who dies in that world?
I dunno. Ask Mac.
man you prob shouldnt be saying this kinda shit lolMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:22 amI'll tell you what. I think that the only way you don't die n1 is if Alison is mafia. Guess who dies in that world?
lmao <3
Eh Alison isn't the kind of person to worry about this lol.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:23 amman you prob shouldnt be saying this kinda shit lolMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:22 amI'll tell you what. I think that the only way you don't die n1 is if Alison is mafia. Guess who dies in that world?
Who could disagree with that it’s objectively trueMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:23 am I am glad Jay and Nutella both agree that I am the hot hands sex man.
Marmot and boo are going to build a modbot analogue for us it's going to be amazing dw patpattutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:22 amI dunno. Ask Mac.
I think in future games I host I will not use the poll at all. I will simply post routine vote counts, the old school way. I think keeping track of vote counts and vote shifting is an integral part of Mafia, and the way people have to do it currently is just try to remember / ISO people. The host putting in 5% more effort would save the players 95% effort.
I don't get the meme I'm sorry
it's yas queen. you are outed mafia.Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:13 amyes queenstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:12 am i dont care about the slip but i shamelessly and unabashedly omgus long con for saying he got bad vibes from me
^^nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:25 amMarmot and boo are going to build a modbot analogue for us it's going to be amazing dw patpattutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:22 amI dunno. Ask Mac.
I think in future games I host I will not use the poll at all. I will simply post routine vote counts, the old school way. I think keeping track of vote counts and vote shifting is an integral part of Mafia, and the way people have to do it currently is just try to remember / ISO people. The host putting in 5% more effort would save the players 95% effort.
Awww ty for the headpatnutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:25 amMarmot and boo are going to build a modbot analogue for us it's going to be amazing dw patpattutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:22 amI dunno. Ask Mac.
I think in future games I host I will not use the poll at all. I will simply post routine vote counts, the old school way. I think keeping track of vote counts and vote shifting is an integral part of Mafia, and the way people have to do it currently is just try to remember / ISO people. The host putting in 5% more effort would save the players 95% effort.
Allow me to introduce Esooa tinfoil.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:25 am I feel myself falling into Arrogant Jay. I think my solve was right and that I’m great.
i should reevaluate her at some point but im lazy so i'll just put it off and die n1 and not have to worry about itMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:25 am Esooa gives me pause tbh. Pause indeed. I'm on pause because of Esooa. Actually Esooa might be mafia let me ISO this.
pls doMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:27 amAllow me to introduce Esooa tinfoil.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:25 am I feel myself falling into Arrogant Jay. I think my solve was right and that I’m great.
Okay, I did. Now what?
I dunno. I thought it was a neat paradox.Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:28 amOkay, I did. Now what?
The max wagon on LCMichelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:58 am When on earth a player like LC has such a huge wagon on day 1 of a game and one who claimed wolf like me and is supected by everyone and their mother has just one vote?
Probably he scum slipped, but i am not sold on that, but keeping all day a single wagon is antitown iykwim
And the game has few mafia monsters, none of them stressed by such thing.
I will try to read and see what happened.Spoiler: show
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:31 am Idk why esooa is being cleared so
I encourage this tinfoil