Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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To be fair, your wolf game is so good, you could have been in wolf range this entire time. I was just being cautious!Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:49 pm oh ok. fair enough
YAY YOU FINALLY THINK I'M TOWN it only took us getting to lylo
It is funny that you say I frame it as a "Principle", because "principle" is the exact word I used in the second post. I am not scum.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:55 pm I don't have a question, just an observation:ts account frames this read as a general Principle of Maifa.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:40 pmYes, scum is slightly more likely to say this here, I believe.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:06 pm If you're a civilian that will lose you the game. Struggle to believe you'd entertain something so petulant.
When asked to expand, it is an answer specific to the player called Epignosis.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:51 pmAs someone who blows their top a lot, I still have never threatened to lynch myself in lylo as town. Winning the game is more important than salty satisfaction. I do not believe Epignosis would stray from that principle, if they have a long history with mafia.
You’ll have to sell me on Tony. I am listening.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:54 pmWell, I am town, so you will have to go back to the drawing board.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:50 pm By TH interactions, I have cleared Long Con, Sloonei, and TonyStarkPrime. There is only room for one more.
For the sake of simplicity I will assume you and nutella are town, because not being able to vote a wolf would be unbelievably stupid.
Out of those three, Sloonei is likely clear for saving us from parity, and I agree that Long Con is likely town now that three of the wolves seem to be off wagon. I would lean towards TSP in that group.
Does a wolf bring up a team of four?Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:54 pmdoes a wolf say this about their partner?ts account wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:51 am I hate to be the person to bring it up, but it is interesting Turnip Head is looking for a team of three. I thought with 15 players it would be more likely that we are looking at a team of four.
That was probably my least favorite post of all.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:54 pmdoes a wolf say this about their partner?ts account wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:51 am I hate to be the person to bring it up, but it is interesting Turnip Head is looking for a team of three. I thought with 15 players it would be more likely that we are looking at a team of four.
Why not?ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:57 pmDoes a wolf bring up a team of four?Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:54 pmdoes a wolf say this about their partner?ts account wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:51 am I hate to be the person to bring it up, but it is interesting Turnip Head is looking for a team of three. I thought with 15 players it would be more likely that we are looking at a team of four.
Clearly, the answer to that is no.
funnygurl claims to have watched drago targeting mac Night 1. I have no trouble believing that Drago would want to watch Mac Night 1 (though this would imply we have two watchers active on the same night. I'm not familiar enough with Nanook games to say whether or not that's viable).NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:22 pm In the night, @Dragomir dies! He was:
Altair
Eagle Vision: Can see anyone that targets him and/or a player of his choice.
You are a Righteous Warrior and win when all the Heathenous Spies have been eliminated.
Oh? Go on.
It doesn't disprove my claim.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:37 pmyeah that's why i'm holstering my vote even though epi's gotta be a wolf fmpovJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:33 pm We have a long day available, and remember that with LyLo hammer voting eyven a singe errant civilian vote threatens to ruin the game.
It’s a team of three. Let’s find them all while nutella and I can be here for you.
don't even think my claim was that useful given y'all gave sloonei the killing ability and that alone disproves epi's claim, but i hope it helps with y'all reading me
The flipped wolf considered teams of three. I know I am town, and considered the team of four. It is a joke to some degree, of course, but given nobody had mentioned wolf team size beforehand, it is an interesting case study.
Am I outed though?ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:03 pm As for a case on TSP: I do not have one, but I believe me, sloonei, and funnygurl are lock town, with long con close behind. I would shotgun Epi and speedchuck here, as epignosis is outed and speedchuck does not look good with turnip head scum flip, then re-evaluate on interactions afterwards.
From what I understand, funnygurl has mechanical information saying you visited somebody when you claim you didn't. Is this not the case?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:04 pmAm I outed though?ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:03 pm As for a case on TSP: I do not have one, but I believe me, sloonei, and funnygurl are lock town, with long con close behind. I would shotgun Epi and speedchuck here, as epignosis is outed and speedchuck does not look good with turnip head scum flip, then re-evaluate on interactions afterwards.
And I have mechanical information saying she's lying. Why believe her over me?ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:05 pmFrom what I understand, funnygurl has mechanical information saying you visited somebody when you claim you didn't. Is this not the case?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:04 pmAm I outed though?ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:03 pm As for a case on TSP: I do not have one, but I believe me, sloonei, and funnygurl are lock town, with long con close behind. I would shotgun Epi and speedchuck here, as epignosis is outed and speedchuck does not look good with turnip head scum flip, then re-evaluate on interactions afterwards.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:01 pmIt doesn't disprove my claim.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:37 pmyeah that's why i'm holstering my vote even though epi's gotta be a wolf fmpovJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:33 pm We have a long day available, and remember that with LyLo hammer voting eyven a singe errant civilian vote threatens to ruin the game.
It’s a team of three. Let’s find them all while nutella and I can be here for you.
don't even think my claim was that useful given y'all gave sloonei the killing ability and that alone disproves epi's claim, but i hope it helps with y'all reading me
The voices from the sky tell us we have 4 civilian slots and 3 mafia slots left, not counting themselves.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:03 pm As for a case on TSP: I do not have one, but I believe me, sloonei, and funnygurl are lock town, with long con close behind. I would shotgun Epi and speedchuck here, as epignosis is outed and speedchuck does not look good with turnip head scum flip, then re-evaluate on interactions afterwards.
Okay. Enjoy.
I am still voting for him without this as evidence.
lolcatting?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:11 pm Epi's practically lolcatting.
I'm more concerned with his claim. Why fake it? Why even make it in the first place, especially to lie about it and risk it being countered?
obv!scumming.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:12 pmlolcatting?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:11 pm Epi's practically lolcatting.
I'm more concerned with his claim. Why fake it? Why even make it in the first place, especially to lie about it and risk it being countered?
What does that even mean?
No. I'm a civilian who is getting fucked because I got a shitty role that doesn't make any sense and nobody believes it.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:12 pmobv!scumming.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:12 pmlolcatting?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:11 pm Epi's practically lolcatting.
I'm more concerned with his claim. Why fake it? Why even make it in the first place, especially to lie about it and risk it being countered?
What does that even mean?
Take your vote off me and then we'll talk.
Indeed, I will have to do such a dig when I can. I will need help. Maybe you can help.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:14 pm I do not know for sure who the last mafia between TSP and Long Con is. I may be focusing too hard on the self vote, and not hard enough on the interactions between speedchuck/long con/turnip head. I do not believe I need to make a case on TSP, either. I would rather focus on the mechanical dichotomy first, as we are meant to do.
JJJ: It occurs to me that you have me on the scum team solely due to interactions with Turnip Head. I do not believe I fit on your proposed team due to interactions with the other proposed wolves. Perhaps you should re-evaluate me, and not simply focus on the solitary interaction.
Can we lynch HIM Uncle Jay?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:19 pm I readily grant that LC’s failed hammer vote rubbed me wrong.
I most certainly am not anything.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:20 pm Oh, judging by vote count, if Epignosis is town, then Long Con and Sloonei both need to be mafia, otherwise mafia would just hammer and win. So Epignosis is definitely outed wolf.
Why claim it in the first place? Why is your role towny rather than scummy? Why are your target(s) towny rather than scummy?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:14 pmNo. I'm a civilian who is getting fucked because I got a shitty role that doesn't make any sense and nobody believes it.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:12 pmobv!scumming.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:12 pmlolcatting?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:11 pm Epi's practically lolcatting.
I'm more concerned with his claim. Why fake it? Why even make it in the first place, especially to lie about it and risk it being countered?
What does that even mean?
This argument is hilarious but I kinda agree with it.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:20 pm Oh, judging by vote count, if Epignosis is town, then Long Con and Sloonei both need to be mafia, otherwise mafia would just hammer and win. So Epignosis is definitely outed wolf.
I said this already.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:22 pmWhy claim it in the first place? Why is your role towny rather than scummy? Why are your target(s) towny rather than scummy?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:14 pmNo. I'm a civilian who is getting fucked because I got a shitty role that doesn't make any sense and nobody believes it.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:12 pmobv!scumming.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:12 pmlolcatting?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:11 pm Epi's practically lolcatting.
I'm more concerned with his claim. Why fake it? Why even make it in the first place, especially to lie about it and risk it being countered?
What does that even mean?
What's funny about it?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:23 pmThis argument is hilarious but I kinda agree with it.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:20 pm Oh, judging by vote count, if Epignosis is town, then Long Con and Sloonei both need to be mafia, otherwise mafia would just hammer and win. So Epignosis is definitely outed wolf.
In essence it boils down to "welp, we haven't lost yet even with throwing votes everywhere. Guess this works."Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:24 pmWhat's funny about it?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:23 pmThis argument is hilarious but I kinda agree with it.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:20 pm Oh, judging by vote count, if Epignosis is town, then Long Con and Sloonei both need to be mafia, otherwise mafia would just hammer and win. So Epignosis is definitely outed wolf.
What are you suspicious?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:27 pmIn essence it boils down to "welp, we haven't lost yet even with throwing votes everywhere. Guess this works."Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:24 pmWhat's funny about it?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:23 pmThis argument is hilarious but I kinda agree with it.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:20 pm Oh, judging by vote count, if Epignosis is town, then Long Con and Sloonei both need to be mafia, otherwise mafia would just hammer and win. So Epignosis is definitely outed wolf.
I've used the reasoning before. Lylo is funny like that.
There are currently three votes. If only one of LC/Sloonei is mafia, they can still hammer. Both of them need to be mafia for it to not be a hammer.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:31 pm Hammer is five, not four. LC and Sloonei doesn’t make this confirmed