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Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:13 pm**

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:58 pm @MartinGG99 I noticed that I asked you twice if you avoided lying in your scum game and you didn't answer. Is it true that as scum you dislike lying?

Wait, you asked me twice? I thought you just talked about it.

I'm sorry.

Anyways you do very very much have a good eye for that. Honesty is something I do absolutely value in IRL as much as possible on a personal level (though I don't hold others to the same standard). Which is ironic because I like playing mafia LOL.

Given the chance to make an honest statement as scum I will do it a million times over even if the consequences of that are debatable.

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:14 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:09 pm Does Alison/Nanook make sense?

Without looking into it deeply, nanook’s vote on LC (which he insists should clear him) means absolutely nothing in an Alison/LC world. Their third partner needs to vote for one of them on Day 2. Casting the “deciding” vote is a good play.

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:14 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:08 pm Idk I’m pretty confident in my POE. We’ll see

oh no! nanook is being complacent!

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:15 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:13 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:58 pm @MartinGG99 I noticed that I asked you twice if you avoided lying in your scum game and you didn't answer. Is it true that as scum you dislike lying?
Wait, you asked me twice? I thought you just talked about it.

I'm sorry.

Anyways you do very very much have a good eye for that. Honesty is something I do absolutely value in IRL as much as possible on a personal level (though I don't hold others to the same standard). Which is ironic because I like playing mafia LOL.

Given the chance to make an honest statement as scum I will do it a million times over even if the consequences of that are debatable.

martin, do you think mafia killing jay n2 was the best kill they could have made?

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:15 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:13 pm Given the chance to make an honest statement as scum I will do it a million times over even if the consequences of that are debatable.

Obviously though I don't really ever say "Yes X is my scum-teammate".

If possible I'll try to mix my honest feelings about them and try to spin it like comes from towny origins or something.

I don't know how good I am at that though.

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:15 pm**

Alison/Nanook/LC, there’s your team. So sayeth the uncontested objectively-determined best player in the world. Don’t look back.

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:18 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:44 pm nook/martin makes a lot of sense actually i think

yea

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:18 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:18 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:44 pm nook/martin makes a lot of sense actually i think
yea

Why martin over alison?

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:19 pm**

Why Nook and Martin over tutuu? Like Nook is correct that he did make a good-looking vote and AFAIK tutuu has not done anything other than have good tone.

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:19 pm**

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:04 pm Where can I find Martin's town games?

If you wish so.

Here's the S-FM 308 one. If you want others that I just posted about (in that little list of games I've had) feel free to ask.

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthre ... ng-Crusade

Martin ISO (for that game, hopefully this link works): https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.p ... howposts=1

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:19 pm**

i wanna go watch lost

will anyone stick around for the last minute at eod? pls remember everyone needs to have at least 1 vote except nutella

to be double sure we can double vote everyone except nutella in case sloonei is mafia and decides to out himself to remove the doc from nutella and kill her ass

actually i think we definitely should give nutella double insulation

brb voring everone except her, soomeone else pls do the same

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:20 pm**

wait for my votes first take it slowly

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:20 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:54 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:25 pm nanook and LC at a glance:
Spoiler: show
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:19 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:18 pm Maybe I misunderstand. I thought you were saying that, if the group sends a town and a mafia, then the mafia would choose to send another mafia so that they could subvert the democratic process and yeet a town member that was supposed to be safe.
That is not what I was saying and is a gross misunderstanding of how the game mechanics work

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:04 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:44 pmHaving me all yellow is super lazy dude
Yeah... at the very least, three posts could be said to have wolf equity with Sloonei:

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:12 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:10 pm hally/sloonei actually always contains at least 1 wolf here
Both lock town now

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:23 am
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:21 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:20 am Hello I’m way behind

Have we decided to give me the gun yet, and if not have we decided to give it to sloonei yet?
who's mafia?
You know I hate this question literally every time someone replies to a post of mine asking a question with “who’s mafia” instead of just answering my question

So from now on I’m going to reply to it with some version of “you motherfucka” k thx

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:13 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:04 pm Tutu/Martin/[one of jay/sloonei possibly both depends on how their reads on each other develop]/...maybe nutes maybe SPF—think they’re not both scum, not sure if they’re both town. Thunal seems townie but I haven’t done research so idk.
That is a lot of names, nooky.
Town cores are hard sometimes
Not strong I know. Other than these, I do see what JJJ means with all the yellow. Your interactions are lean, there's not much there to connect with other players.
I should be pretty clearly not teamed with Nutella at a bare minimum

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:35 pm And [VOTE: LC] aubergine

This was thoroughly underwhelming. Nanook was the first person to respond to LC's "derpclear" post by the looks of it (and I think LC's post was a response to nanook in the first place?). The exchange about Nanook's viability with various hypothetical partners is a bit odd and... kind of out of place. I could see it as theater between teammates.
Nanook voted for LC yesterday, but i don't know where it fell in the scheme of the wagons.

I can see this as LC's teammate.
Bad, try again. Where my vote fell/the significance of it has been discussed.

nook if you think you’re going to skate by to lylo off one vote you should rethink that

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:21 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:54 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:54 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:25 pm nanook and LC at a glance:
Spoiler: show
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:19 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:18 pm Maybe I misunderstand. I thought you were saying that, if the group sends a town and a mafia, then the mafia would choose to send another mafia so that they could subvert the democratic process and yeet a town member that was supposed to be safe.
That is not what I was saying and is a gross misunderstanding of how the game mechanics work

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:04 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:44 pmHaving me all yellow is super lazy dude
Yeah... at the very least, three posts could be said to have wolf equity with Sloonei:

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:12 pm

Both lock town now

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:23 am
You know I hate this question literally every time someone replies to a post of mine asking a question with “who’s mafia” instead of just answering my question

So from now on I’m going to reply to it with some version of “you motherfucka” k thx

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:14 pm

Town cores are hard sometimes
Not strong I know. Other than these, I do see what JJJ means with all the yellow. Your interactions are lean, there's not much there to connect with other players.
I should be pretty clearly not teamed with Nutella at a bare minimum

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:35 pm And [VOTE: LC] aubergine

This was thoroughly underwhelming. Nanook was the first person to respond to LC's "derpclear" post by the looks of it (and I think LC's post was a response to nanook in the first place?). The exchange about Nanook's viability with various hypothetical partners is a bit odd and... kind of out of place. I could see it as theater between teammates.
Nanook voted for LC yesterday, but i don't know where it fell in the scheme of the wagons.

I can see this as LC's teammate.
Bad, try again. Where my vote fell/the significance of it has been discussed.
Summarize it for me please and thanks
For the fifth time

Wagons were 4-4, LC hadn’t voted yet, it wasn’t clear which way thunal would vote

I voted LC

If I’m partners with him I’m under zero obligation to vote him (or to vote at all actually)

why did you vote lc over alison?

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:22 pm**

[VOTE: Hally] aubergine

[VOTE: spf] aubergine

[VOTE: Thunal33] aubergine

[VOTE: MartinG99] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:22 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:05 pm if you are town, i think you’re overconfident

Honestly I don't find it concerning because, well, if we do think in similar ways then I can imagine Alison's thought process and etc.

If I'm not alarmed why should I expect her to be alarmed? Unless she had significantly differently reads than I do, I wouldn't be bothered about it.

However I suppose policy-wise for all towns you could be right.

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:23 pm**

put everyone at 2 votes please dont risk sloonei voting nutella

ok bye bye good luck good luck good luck

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:23 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:58 pm [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

Pretty much just a sheep of jay, I can’t read sloonei for shit

*says he wants to sheep jay*
*votes the person jay was defending instead of jays biggest scum read*

bruh

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:25 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:09 pm Does Alison/Nanook make sense?

absolutely

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:26 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:09 pm Does Alison/Nanook make sense?
Without looking into it deeply, nanook’s vote on LC (which he insists should clear him) means absolutely nothing in an Alison/LC world. Their third partner needs to vote for one of them on Day 2. Casting the “deciding” vote is a good play.

yea, i made this post already last night and nobody cared lol

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:26 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:38 pm fwiw it may just be alison’s personality to not freak out or doubt herself much. she is very logic oriented and perhaps doesn’t concern herself with “what if’s” because they don’t logically make sense to her to consider

this is a plausible explanation for her behavior that isn’t “alison is a wolf”

This.

or maybe I could ponder if it has to deal with autism/asperger's but I get the feeling thats a dangerous thing to suggest

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:27 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:22 pm [VOTE: Hally] aubergine

[VOTE: spf] aubergine

[VOTE: Thunal33] aubergine

[VOTE: MartinG99] aubergine

Throw one on alison for me too, tooty

I said toot toot

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:29 pm**

if sloonei flips town we should kill nook because he’s probably just mafia regardless of alison’s alignment

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:29 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:27 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:22 pm [VOTE: Hally] aubergine

[VOTE: spf] aubergine

[VOTE: Thunal33] aubergine

[VOTE: MartinG99] aubergine
Throw one on alison for me too, tooty

I said toot toot

im really really scared sloony

to be honest i wish i could unvote u. i would rather not vote anyone. if i dont vote anyone then i cant hurt my team

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:30 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:29 pm if sloonei flips town we should kill nook because he’s probably just mafia regardless of alison’s alignment

inclined to agree atm

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:30 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:29 pm if sloonei flips town we should kill nook because he’s probably just mafia regardless of alison’s alignment

k

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:30 pm**

sloonei is not flipping scum guys

let’s just put that to bed

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:31 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:30 pm sloonei is not flipping scum guys

let’s just put that to bed

we could still put alison ahead if we really want to lol

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:31 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:27 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:22 pm [VOTE: Hally] aubergine

[VOTE: spf] aubergine

[VOTE: Thunal33] aubergine

[VOTE: MartinG99] aubergine
Throw one on alison for me too, tooty

I said toot toot
im really really scared sloony

to be honest i wish i could unvote u. i would rather not vote anyone. if i dont vote anyone then i cant hurt my team

A vote for Alison is effectively an unvote for sloonei.

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:32 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:31 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:30 pm sloonei is not flipping scum guys

let’s just put that to bed
we could still put alison ahead if we really want to lol

i don’t think we have the votes

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:33 pm**

Alright, I'm going to bed. Flash wagons are bad, don't do them. You know I hate them regardless of my alignment.

See you all in the quicktopic.

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:33 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:32 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:31 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:30 pm sloonei is not flipping scum guys

let’s just put that to bed
we could still put alison ahead if we really want to lol
i don’t think we have the votes

It is currently 5 to 3.

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:33 pm**

if sloonei is town, which he is, it’s either nook/martin or nook/alison

i don’t think its tutuu

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:34 pm**

if three of me/tutuu/nanook/thunal voted alison she'd be ahead

but idk if thunal is here or if nanook would be willing lol

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:34 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:06 pm @MartinGG99 u srsly cant find me as town?

Nope.

Not with the current circumstances. I believe you + Sloonei is my best guess for the scum-team atm, and if not then it must be Tutuu + Nook

If I'm wrong about 2 scum being in Nook/Tutuu/Sloonei then I'm going to consider a loss for my part. And if I'm right I'm going to consider it a win with an asterisk because I was right about my scum-reads, regardless if mafia wins in the end somehow due to town paranoia.

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:34 pm**

(didnt include martin bc i know he's not willing)

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:35 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:33 pm Alright, I'm going to bed. Flash wagons are bad, don't do them. You know I hate them regardless of my alignment.

See you all in the quicktopic.

They are entirely situation dependent.

In this case it’s not a flash wagon. You and I have both been suspects for a long time.

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:35 pm**

my only read is nutella town thats it, if she tells me to vote alison i vote. if she tells me to jump off a cliff i jump

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:36 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:35 pm my only read is nutella town thats it, if she tells me to vote alison i vote. if she tells me to jump off a cliff i jump

have a hot chocolate

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:36 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:07 pm @MartinGG99 are u here? why am i scum. explain urself mister

That's a different question than "why can't I be town".

On D2 not many people could confidently answer "why X is scum", but many could answer "why X isn't town" I recall and/or imagine.

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:37 pm**

[VOTE: nook] aubergine

[VOTE: martin] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:38 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:36 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:35 pm my only read is nutella town thats it, if she tells me to vote alison i vote. if she tells me to jump off a cliff i jump
have a hot chocolate

omggggg thats such a cute thing of u to say

your wish is my command, my queen

im legit gonna go outside to a coffee vending machine right outside my apartment and get a hot chocolate just because you commanded me to. brb putting on shoes

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:38 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:15 pm martin, do you think mafia killing jay n2 was the best kill they could have made?

I think with a Tutuu + Sloonei scum perspective it probably was, they just didn't anticipate for things to come to this. I also talked about this earlier, where I think a few unfortunate/unpredicatble/unavoidable events happened that led to more confident town reads on town players.

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:38 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:38 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:36 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:35 pm my only read is nutella town thats it, if she tells me to vote alison i vote. if she tells me to jump off a cliff i jump
have a hot chocolate
omggggg thats such a cute thing of u to say

your wish is my command, my queen

im legit gonna go outside to a coffee vending machine right outside my apartment and get a hot chocolate just because you commanded me to. brb putting on shoes

This is my favorite post in the game.

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:39 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:36 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:07 pm @MartinGG99 are u here? why am i scum. explain urself mister
That's a different question than "why can't I be town".

On D2 not many people could confidently answer "why X is scum", but many could answer "why X isn't town" I recall and/or imagine.

wat

i asked why do u think im scum. dunno what u wrote there

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:40 pm**

love u sloony!

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:40 pm**

imagine chopping sloonei

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:40 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:33 pm if sloonei is town, which he is, it’s either nook/martin or nook/alison

i don’t think its tutuu

So by saying Tutuu + Sloonei are town, you're at 100% odds with my theory of the last 2 scum :/

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:41 pm**

I am pretty much done. It feels like I can’t make it out of this day (or night, technically) alive. Good luck moving forward y’all. I’m still around and am not above a purely self-preservation vote. I think a nanook/alison team makes sense and advocate votes on either them, both right now and moving forward.

I can vote for Martin too if it's either me or him. Meh.

Posted: **Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:41 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:38 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:38 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:36 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:35 pm my only read is nutella town thats it, if she tells me to vote alison i vote. if she tells me to jump off a cliff i jump
have a hot chocolate
omggggg thats such a cute thing of u to say

your wish is my command, my queen

im legit gonna go outside to a coffee vending machine right outside my apartment and get a hot chocolate just because you commanded me to. brb putting on shoes
This is my favorite post in the game.

same

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