The Syndicate

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:06 pm @RondoDimBuckle How much do I like bussing D1 when there isn't a lot of fire on my team when I'm scum?

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:34 am @falcon45ca
@Lime Coke

I need you two to get along so you guys don’t break come tomorrow.

If TSP flips Town, @Lime Coke is probably going to go after Falcon which can’t happen. I need you to take my word for this Lime Coke. You need to trust me when I say I confirmed Falcon.

As for @falcon45ca, assuming I do confirm the ability I don’t want to see you have the idea in your head I’m wrong about Lime Coke or that you think we are the team. We need to work together here to defeat scum and we need to form a town pact.

Falcon assuming TSP flips Town, I NEED YOU TO USE YOUR ABILITY ON JACK TONIGHT?
IT BENEFITS US ALLOT!

For example.
It becomes Me, You, Lime Coke, Ender, 1 of Dyson’s Clears.

Now here’s how it benefits us:
Jack being removed not only stops his interference but if we vote Ender, Jack should be confirmed scum in your eyes because if he is scum (which I know he is) it will act as a MYLO still where if he isn’t scum it acts as a LYLO.
Removing Ender confirms Jack as their partner.


Although if TSP flips Red then don’t use your ability because there’s no point.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:06 pm Seriously if anyone actually seriously thinks Scum Jack and Scum Ender as a team works and decides to hard-bus and force their lhf team-member to go over you actually have no idea how I scum.

If you said I was w/w with TSP or LC?

Like that's fine.

But Jack/Ender makes no sense purely from the fact that I hate losing a teammate D1.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:51 pm When I flip kill Gav pls I don’t even care it ends the game

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:58 pm Wolf team probably is planning to do that but I dunno

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:06 pm Poll img, took ~4pm

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@Seanzie has been eliminated!

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Your alignment is Mafia.

Twice per game at night, you can commute to become nontargetable, causing nearly all abilities to fail if they target you.
Level 2 Processing

Once per game at night, you can throw a ball at a player. If it returns to you, then that player was targeted by 2 or more players (not including yourself). Additionally, if the ball is returned, you can throw the ball again. Note that players who self-target with an ability, or don't use an ability, are considered to have targeted themselves.
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:15 pm I don’t think Ender/Jack is a possible wolf team. I think the fact that Gav has created a POE that even he should know always loses the game is suspicious. Like Gav’s telling me, sans any evidence, that the only thing I can do is case Ender and I’m like vaguely willing to do that but if Ender’s a wolf it’s almost certainly not with Jack

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:18 pm The only person I’ve even had interactions with today was LC and that was vaguely unproductive but I kinda think he’s town now so if anyone else in POE wants to talk to me now would be a good time or I’ll keep being annoyed at Gav

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:02 pm I can’t remember, have you even claimed at all?

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:02 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:18 pm The only person I’ve even had interactions with today was LC and that was vaguely unproductive but I kinda think he’s town now so if anyone else in POE wants to talk to me now would be a good time or I’ll keep being annoyed at Gav

Instead of being annoyed why don’t you give some more thoughts.
What’s your full Readslist?

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:03 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:06 pm Poll img, took ~4pm

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@Seanzie has been eliminated!

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Your alignment is Mafia.

Twice per game at night, you can commute to become nontargetable, causing nearly all abilities to fail if they target you.
Level 2 Processing

Once per game at night, you can throw a ball at a player. If it returns to you, then that player was targeted by 2 or more players (not including yourself). Additionally, if the ball is returned, you can throw the ball again. Note that players who self-target with an ability, or don't use an ability, are considered to have targeted themselves.
Level 5 Processing

Night 1 begins, and ends in 24 hours. Please don't send any actions in the last hour. [Countdown Link]

For those who still don’t think me confirming Lime Cokes ability confirms them, Sean as the opposite ability. Sean stops it so why would he have another buddy that reflects? He doesn’t, Lime Coke is the town counter part to Sean’s role.

@falcon45ca
@RondoDimBuckle
@ilario
@EnderWiggin
@TonyStarkPrime

I’ll just ping everybody except for Jack and Lime Coke.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:01 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:15 pm I don’t think Ender/Jack is a possible wolf team. I think the fact that Gav has created a POE that even he should know always loses the game is suspicious. Like Gav’s telling me, sans any evidence, that the only thing I can do is case Ender and I’m like vaguely willing to do that but if Ender’s a wolf it’s almost certainly not with Jack

See that’s not the case.
You say it isn’t with Jack.
Ender says he can’t be with Jack.
But explain the Alison kill, explain it.
Ender never kills Alison before Jack because he had Alison in a pocket.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:55 pm I townread Falcon, ilario, Jack, LC, and (for all intents and purposes) Dyson. Ender is a lesser townread but still someone I can work with and have no inclination to vote. I am ok to sheep ilario on TSP for a bit because I usually have trouble reading TSP.

That leaves Nanook, Seanzie, Scotty, Rondo, and Gavial. I have spoken about Seanzie. Nanook is exactly rand. I don't really want to put up with Gavial being uncommunicative for the rest of the game; I also think he is intentionally being less communicative than he could have been with the gimmick. Rondo seemed rand to me but Ender thinks he's scummy and the two of them know each other well so I'm inclined to give some weight to that. Scotty is my strongest scumread.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:46 pm huh I guess I should case ender then

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:48 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:03 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:06 pm Poll img, took ~4pm

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@Seanzie has been eliminated!

They had the following smilies:

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Your alignment is Mafia.

Twice per game at night, you can commute to become nontargetable, causing nearly all abilities to fail if they target you.
Level 2 Processing

Once per game at night, you can throw a ball at a player. If it returns to you, then that player was targeted by 2 or more players (not including yourself). Additionally, if the ball is returned, you can throw the ball again. Note that players who self-target with an ability, or don't use an ability, are considered to have targeted themselves.
Level 5 Processing

Night 1 begins, and ends in 24 hours. Please don't send any actions in the last hour. [Countdown Link]

For those who still don’t think me confirming Lime Cokes ability confirms them, Sean as the opposite ability. Sean stops it so why would he have another buddy that reflects? He doesn’t, Lime Coke is the town counter part to Sean’s role.

@falcon45ca
@RondoDimBuckle
@ilario
@EnderWiggin
@TonyStarkPrime

I’ll just ping everybody except for Jack and Lime Coke.

hmm actually by this logic i wonder if I'm vaguely confirmed, my role self targets

but no gav that's not how this works

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:48 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:03 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:06 pm Poll img, took ~4pm

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@Seanzie has been eliminated!

They had the following smilies:

Spoiler: show

Your alignment is Mafia.

Twice per game at night, you can commute to become nontargetable, causing nearly all abilities to fail if they target you.
Level 2 Processing

Once per game at night, you can throw a ball at a player. If it returns to you, then that player was targeted by 2 or more players (not including yourself). Additionally, if the ball is returned, you can throw the ball again. Note that players who self-target with an ability, or don't use an ability, are considered to have targeted themselves.
Level 5 Processing

Night 1 begins, and ends in 24 hours. Please don't send any actions in the last hour. [Countdown Link]

For those who still don’t think me confirming Lime Cokes ability confirms them, Sean as the opposite ability. Sean stops it so why would he have another buddy that reflects? He doesn’t, Lime Coke is the town counter part to Sean’s role.

@falcon45ca
@RondoDimBuckle
@ilario
@EnderWiggin
@TonyStarkPrime

I’ll just ping everybody except for Jack and Lime Coke.

hmm actually by this logic i wonder if I'm vaguely confirmed, my role self targets

but no gav that's not how this works

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:49 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:01 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:15 pm I don’t think Ender/Jack is a possible wolf team. I think the fact that Gav has created a POE that even he should know always loses the game is suspicious. Like Gav’s telling me, sans any evidence, that the only thing I can do is case Ender and I’m like vaguely willing to do that but if Ender’s a wolf it’s almost certainly not with Jack

See that’s not the case.
You say it isn’t with Jack.
Ender says he can’t be with Jack.
But explain the Alison kill, explain it.
Ender never kills Alison before Jack because he had Alison in a pocket.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:55 pm I townread Falcon, ilario, Jack, LC, and (for all intents and purposes) Dyson. Ender is a lesser townread but still someone I can work with and have no inclination to vote. I am ok to sheep ilario on TSP for a bit because I usually have trouble reading TSP.

That leaves Nanook, Seanzie, Scotty, Rondo, and Gavial. I have spoken about Seanzie. Nanook is exactly rand. I don't really want to put up with Gavial being uncommunicative for the rest of the game; I also think he is intentionally being less communicative than he could have been with the gimmick. Rondo seemed rand to me but Ender thinks he's scummy and the two of them know each other well so I'm inclined to give some weight to that. Scotty is my strongest scumread.

Alison townread Jack and wasn't sure on Ender. Your logic is ??

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:22 pm Gav I would like it if you gave me a reason why you thought that Jack was a wolf

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:22 pm If your town it should be obvious to you it’s Ender/Jack.
Ask yourself, why am I the only one in this entire game that voted Jack?
Well it’s a simple answer, because I’m right on him being a wolf!

Now I hope your scum so this game can end faster but if you flip Green then the Town Pact of Me, Lime Coke and Falcon will take down the pesky wolves of Ender and Jack.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:25 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:22 pm Gav I would like it if you gave me a reason why you thought that Jack was a wolf

Remind me again in about 7-8 Hours and I’ll make a full on case around Jack, you know because cases are good to make.
You should try it sometime.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:02 am

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:53 am Blade might be mafia lol

I haven't seen anything mafia indicative from Ender.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:14 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:09 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:07 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:52 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:50 pm Literally, that’s one of the two way the power works so I don’t see how it can be a real power that Martin didn’t foresee possibly returning this result.

Well, the odds are actually not fantastic to return a positive except just by picking the top town names. Say dyson had picked anyone in the POE, returned negative, the ability is shit because plausible deniability in all 3 of the targets. Renders the role almost useless. Finding all 3 town is helpful for clearing.

I mean, it’s still really powerful.

Target 3 towncore = confirmed towncore or confirmed deepwolf
Target 2 towncore and 1 poe = basically a check on the poe person

The ability is only shit if you target 3 sus players and get back that they aren’t all town. Even if you do that, there’s a slim chance of getting back they’re all town, which is also really powerful.

Or that there could be a mole in the towncore. Still would risk a couple mislynches

Yeah but suppose you target like Scotty, Lime, Falcon and get there’s a wolf.

Yeet Falcon and he flips town.

Now that’s mechanical confirmation that at least one of 2 towncore members is a wolf, which is pretty good. You were gonna flip Falcon anyway.


Btw, these yeet orders that end with Ender….unless I did math wrong, we’ve got too many yeets because F3 is Jack/Ender/??? Assuming of course that there aren’t 2 wolves in Jack/Ender/???

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:53 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:06 pm Seriously if anyone actually seriously thinks Scum Jack and Scum Ender as a team works and decides to hard-bus and force their lhf team-member to go over you actually have no idea how I scum.

If you said I was w/w with TSP or LC?

Like that's fine.

But Jack/Ender makes no sense purely from the fact that I hate losing a teammate D1.

No it’s not.
You always kill Jack before Alison unless Jack is Scum with you.