The Syndicate

Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:21 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:03 pm Oh i remember doom saying itt she thinks im chastity. Is this why kate lust went after me? Probably right. We'll see from flip

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:01 pm Spoilers from the movie:

Spoiler: show

john doe is wrath. Like theyre the same thing. Each sin is a victim, john doe dies as the wrath victim. Not sure how this translates to the game as they're 2 roles

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:27 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:19 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:08 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:04 am I have many worries

I thankfully don't have to worry about you being cop again, because we've killed the cop already

I'm much cuter than a cop

*slams the yes button while tears of pride stream down my face*

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:29 am like obviously it's preferable to killing town but

what if killing sins is like entirely not beneficial, or worse yet helps John Doe?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:54 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:21 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:03 pm Oh i remember doom saying itt she thinks im chastity. Is this why kate lust went after me? Probably right. We'll see from flip

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:53 am Kate told Seanzie she tracked Greed but wouldn't tell him who it was.

Seanzie has mech knowledge Kate was Lust.

I track Kate to Dennis. It tells Seanzie who it is.

I'm top scumread? Why just give up? Why not just claim I'm lying or something? Why doesn't Dennis just claim Kate lied to Seanzie about him being Greed? Why do are they both ok with death?

How did Seanzie know Kate was Lust in the first place? N0 action? I need answers.

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:52 am All work and no 7 makes Kate a lusty girl.
All work and no 7 makes Kate a lsty girl.
All work and no 7sev7n makes Kate a lusty girl.
All work and no 7 makes Kate a lusty gorl.
All Work and no 78 ma7es Kate a lusty girl.
All work and no 7 makes KALTe a lusty girl.
All work and no 7 makes Kate a lusty girl.
All work and no 7 makes Kate a lusty girl.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:55 am

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:52 am All work and no 7 makes Kate a lusty girl.
All work and no 7 makes Kate a lsty girl.
All work and no 7sev7n makes Kate a lusty girl.
All work and no 7 makes Kate a lusty gorl.
All Work and no 78 ma7es Kate a lusty girl.
All work and no 7 makes KALTe a lusty girl.
All work and no 7 makes Kate a lusty girl.
All work and no 7 makes Kate a lusty girl.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:53 am Kate told Seanzie she tracked Greed but wouldn't tell him who it was.

Seanzie has mech knowledge Kate was Lust.

I track Kate to Dennis. It tells Seanzie who it is.

I'm top scumread? Why just give up? Why not just claim I'm lying or something? Why doesn't Dennis just claim Kate lied to Seanzie about him being Greed? Why do are they both ok with death?

How did Seanzie know Kate was Lust in the first place? N0 action? I need answers.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:20 am Aw kitties. This thread definitely needs more cute fuzzy kitties. Especially kitties booping each other

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:36 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:29 am like obviously it's preferable to killing town but

what if killing sins is like entirely not beneficial, or worse yet helps John Doe?

any chance you've got a theme/setup/movie-plot-related reason to think this

I watched the first episode of Twin Peaks instead of Se7en without knowing that ep 1 was basically as long as a movie

back on the topic at hand

from what Seanzie said it didn't seem like Kate had a way to win with town

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:26 pm Things I learned from Kate that could be useful (take everything with a grain of salt since Kate was suspicious of my motives, but I do think there were times where she was trusting me enough that most of this is likely true).

1.) She can win as sole survivor or with mafia.
2.) SVS is 90% town (I think Kate said this in earnest)
3.) She said her and Greed exchanged roles. idk what to make of this.
4.) She has an ability but I think it is perhaps best for me not to share the details on it.

hmmmmmm okay so grain of salt like Seanzie said, but iirc Seanzie said he was posing as a sin? so (heavy fan theories here -->) maybe Seanzie did something like say that he could win alone or with scum, and then Kate went "oh yeah samesies Seanzies"

this might be worth asking Seanzie to speak further on, I don't think it would reveal much and it might help confirm how much to trust point #1

re: #2, after being in a game with Kate and SVS, can confirm they can accurate snipe each other, so if I believe #1 then I'm inclined to believe #2

idk about #3/dont wanna hear about #4 atm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:28 am Kate who are the 7 other sins and John Doe?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:33 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:36 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:29 am like obviously it's preferable to killing town but

what if killing sins is like entirely not beneficial, or worse yet helps John Doe?

any chance you've got a theme/setup/movie-plot-related reason to think this

I watched the first episode of Twin Peaks instead of Se7en without knowing that ep 1 was basically as long as a movie

back on the topic at hand

from what Seanzie said it didn't seem like Kate had a way to win with town

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:26 pm Things I learned from Kate that could be useful (take everything with a grain of salt since Kate was suspicious of my motives, but I do think there were times where she was trusting me enough that most of this is likely true).

1.) She can win as sole survivor or with mafia.
2.) SVS is 90% town (I think Kate said this in earnest)
3.) She said her and Greed exchanged roles. idk what to make of this.
4.) She has an ability but I think it is perhaps best for me not to share the details on it.

hmmmmmm okay so grain of salt like Seanzie said, but iirc Seanzie said he was posing as a sin? so (heavy fan theories here -->) maybe Seanzie did something like say that he could win alone or with scum, and then Kate went "oh yeah samesies Seanzies"

this might be worth asking Seanzie to speak further on, I don't think it would reveal much and it might help confirm how much to trust point #1

re: #2, after being in a game with Kate and SVS, can confirm they can accurate snipe each other, so if I believe #1 then I'm inclined to believe #2

idk about #3/dont wanna hear about #4 atm

I asked Kate how she won and she answered before I told her my fake wincon. I think sins can turn into mafia somehow and likely more than one sin can win with mafia.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:43 am Well tutuu said that the sins are victims of John Doe in the film I've not watched it but I'm just like... why the hell did Dennis go belly up? he didn't have to go belly up. They both just want to be the next two chops, why?

What if the mafia wincon is to kill all the sins or something?

Roxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:30 am Wow.

Full stop.

Thanks @Seanzie and @MacDougall you both did what I could not.

vote skate

Was just trying to catch up reading while Ariya is napping. I usually never vote this early but it is what it is.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:46 am I dunno I'm just mad sus about why they both went belly up and Kate immediately started just complimenting Seanzie. Neither give a single shit about being caught. Why?

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:37 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:30 am Wow.

Full stop.

Thanks @Seanzie and @MacDougall you both did what I could not.

vote skate

Was just trying to catch up reading while Ariya is napping. I usually never vote this early but it is what it is.

JATE!!!

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:38 am I don't think I've ever seen outed Kate before. This is incredibly entertaining

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:41 am @S~V~S while I agree that the game can’t be completely based on the movie, I firmly believe that John Doe knew who the two detectives were, just like in the movie, and just like in the game’s opening story. Of course he can’t nk them, otherwise, what would be the point? But he can try to get them lynched.

So how is this for solving? Look at the votes for Portia all throughout day one, and the conversation around Portia, and bob’s your uncle. Bam, big man is gone.

Obviously, my thoughts return to either Mac or Zenon. If Mac is John Doe, and has an odd night tracking ability, then I have to wonder what his even night ability is. Well, he did mention that now he had outed himself, he will probably die. And yet he fearlessly continues being the self appointed game leader. How brave! And why not? He knows Doe will not want to be tracked, so we’re grateful for your sacrifice Mac.

I came here last night to catch up and try to float this idea about John Doe, but I was so busy picking my jaw up off the floor that I never got around to it. Anyway, I hear that Stockholm syndrome is going around and I sure don’t want to catch it, so Im outta here.

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:46 am [VOTE: Zenon] aubergine almost forgot to vote.

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:46 am [VOTE: Zenon] aubergine almost forgot to vote.

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:50 am

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:46 am [VOTE: Zenon] aubergine almost forgot to vote.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:51 am

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:50 am

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:46 am [VOTE: Zenon] aubergine almost forgot to vote.

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:41 am @S~V~S while I agree that the game can’t be completely based on the movie, I firmly believe that John Doe knew who the two detectives were, just like in the movie, and just like in the game’s opening story. Of course he can’t nk them, otherwise, what would be the point? But he can try to get them lynched.

So how is this for solving? Look at the votes for Portia all throughout day one, and the conversation around Portia, and bob’s your uncle. Bam, big man is gone.

Obviously, my thoughts return to either Mac or Zenon. If Mac is John Doe, and has an odd night tracking ability, then I have to wonder what his even night ability is. Well, he did mention that now he had outed himself, he will probably die. And yet he fearlessly continues being the self appointed game leader. How brave! And why not? He knows Doe will not want to be tracked, so we’re grateful for your sacrifice Mac.

I came here last night to catch up and try to float this idea about John Doe, but I was so busy picking my jaw up off the floor that I never got around to it. Anyway, I hear that Stockholm syndrome is going around and I sure don’t want to catch it, so Im outta here.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:53 am i suppose my poe sans kate and dennis is

wilgy
rondo
nook
thunal
falcon

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:53 am Kate told Seanzie she tracked Greed but wouldn't tell him who it was.

Seanzie has mech knowledge Kate was Lust.

I track Kate to Dennis. It tells Seanzie who it is.

I'm top scumread? Why just give up? Why not just claim I'm lying or something? Why doesn't Dennis just claim Kate lied to Seanzie about him being Greed? Why do are they both ok with death?

How did Seanzie know Kate was Lust in the first place? N0 action? I need answers.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:53 am Kate told Seanzie she tracked Greed but wouldn't tell him who it was.

Seanzie has mech knowledge Kate was Lust.

I track Kate to Dennis. It tells Seanzie who it is.

I'm top scumread? Why just give up? Why not just claim I'm lying or something? Why doesn't Dennis just claim Kate lied to Seanzie about him being Greed? Why do are they both ok with death?

How did Seanzie know Kate was Lust in the first place? N0 action? I need answers.

Kate didn't track Greed, she had some sort of BTSC with them, and said she targeted them to create it since she was confident they were bad (which made me think greed had to be in {Roxy, Matahari, SVS, Dennis}, and I was delaying outing about Kate for a while because I was trying to get her to give me more info so I could narrow it down, and was strongly thinking it was Dennis before you revealed, but your reveal, plus Kate kinda tensing up in the chat made it so the ruse had diminishing returns)

I did not know Kate was lust, but I ISO'ed her N1 and she didn't look like town!Kate, so I targeted her. I got BTSC with her, and I came in out the gate saying that I was a sin and I would have died if I targeted a non-sin, so I knew she was a sin. Gambit paid off, and she slipped up kinda quick, then doubled back because I think she realized I could be lying, and then we went back and forth for a while with her not trusting me, then I found out that we can say anything we want in BTSC (and promptly shit my pants because all the sudden I needed a fakeclaim). She was asking if I was Pride, which made me think it was a trap, so I claimed to be lust and that I was starting an orgy/cult and needed to recruit other sins to win. She didn't believe me, and sent me a screenshot of her rolecard (she is lust). I found a way to backpedal, and said I was gluttony and that my own sins are not enough to satisfy me, so I think I convinced her that my cult was real, and that I just needed to find 3 other sins. She told me she knew who Greed was, and I spent the rest of the time trying to figure out who Greed was, but I could tell she didn't fully trust me (she asked me to share my role card and I didn't, so yeah...) I think I did a good job of being like "well, at EoD you'll have the option to join my cult. After you're the same alignment as me, I will full-share. Until then, there is not really any incentive to share anything since you could possibly screw me over." and I told her that telling me who greed was could wait until night when she was recruited, which I think allowed me to fish for hints for a bit longer, since I could ask her about her reads to get clues.

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:56 am Sean I love you

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:57 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:53 am Kate told Seanzie she tracked Greed but wouldn't tell him who it was.

Seanzie has mech knowledge Kate was Lust.

I track Kate to Dennis. It tells Seanzie who it is.

I'm top scumread? Why just give up? Why not just claim I'm lying or something? Why doesn't Dennis just claim Kate lied to Seanzie about him being Greed? Why do are they both ok with death?

How did Seanzie know Kate was Lust in the first place? N0 action? I need answers.

Kate didn't track Greed, she had some sort of BTSC with them, and said she targeted them to create it since she was confident they were bad (which made me think greed had to be in {Roxy, Matahari, SVS, Dennis}, and I was delaying outing about Kate for a while because I was trying to get her to give me more info so I could narrow it down, and was strongly thinking it was Dennis before you revealed, but your reveal, plus Kate kinda tensing up in the chat made it so the ruse had diminishing returns)

I did not know Kate was lust, but I ISO'ed her N1 and she didn't look like town!Kate, so I targeted her. I got BTSC with her, and I came in out the gate saying that I was a sin and I would have died if I targeted a non-sin, so I knew she was a sin. Gambit paid off, and she slipped up kinda quick, then doubled back because I think she realized I could be lying, and then we went back and forth for a while with her not trusting me, then I found out that we can say anything we want in BTSC (and promptly shit my pants because all the sudden I needed a fakeclaim). She was asking if I was Pride, which made me think it was a trap, so I claimed to be lust and that I was starting an orgy/cult and needed to recruit other sins to win. She didn't believe me, and sent me a screenshot of her rolecard (she is lust). I found a way to backpedal, and said I was gluttony and that my own sins are not enough to satisfy me, so I think I convinced her that my cult was real, and that I just needed to find 3 other sins. She told me she knew who Greed was, and I spent the rest of the time trying to figure out who Greed was, but I could tell she didn't fully trust me (she asked me to share my role card and I didn't, so yeah...) I think I did a good job of being like "well, at EoD you'll have the option to join my cult. After you're the same alignment as me, I will full-share. Until then, there is not really any incentive to share anything since you could possibly screw me over." and I told her that telling me who greed was could wait until night when she was recruited, which I think allowed me to fish for hints for a bit longer, since I could ask her about her reads to get clues.

Don't beat around the b7sh. We spent the night together.7

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:04 am

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:57 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:53 am Kate told Seanzie she tracked Greed but wouldn't tell him who it was.

Seanzie has mech knowledge Kate was Lust.

I track Kate to Dennis. It tells Seanzie who it is.

I'm top scumread? Why just give up? Why not just claim I'm lying or something? Why doesn't Dennis just claim Kate lied to Seanzie about him being Greed? Why do are they both ok with death?

How did Seanzie know Kate was Lust in the first place? N0 action? I need answers.

Kate didn't track Greed, she had some sort of BTSC with them, and said she targeted them to create it since she was confident they were bad (which made me think greed had to be in {Roxy, Matahari, SVS, Dennis}, and I was delaying outing about Kate for a while because I was trying to get her to give me more info so I could narrow it down, and was strongly thinking it was Dennis before you revealed, but your reveal, plus Kate kinda tensing up in the chat made it so the ruse had diminishing returns)

I did not know Kate was lust, but I ISO'ed her N1 and she didn't look like town!Kate, so I targeted her. I got BTSC with her, and I came in out the gate saying that I was a sin and I would have died if I targeted a non-sin, so I knew she was a sin. Gambit paid off, and she slipped up kinda quick, then doubled back because I think she realized I could be lying, and then we went back and forth for a while with her not trusting me, then I found out that we can say anything we want in BTSC (and promptly shit my pants because all the sudden I needed a fakeclaim). She was asking if I was Pride, which made me think it was a trap, so I claimed to be lust and that I was starting an orgy/cult and needed to recruit other sins to win. She didn't believe me, and sent me a screenshot of her rolecard (she is lust). I found a way to backpedal, and said I was gluttony and that my own sins are not enough to satisfy me, so I think I convinced her that my cult was real, and that I just needed to find 3 other sins. She told me she knew who Greed was, and I spent the rest of the time trying to figure out who Greed was, but I could tell she didn't fully trust me (she asked me to share my role card and I didn't, so yeah...) I think I did a good job of being like "well, at EoD you'll have the option to join my cult. After you're the same alignment as me, I will full-share. Until then, there is not really any incentive to share anything since you could possibly screw me over." and I told her that telling me who greed was could wait until night when she was recruited, which I think allowed me to fish for hints for a bit longer, since I could ask her about her reads to get clues.

Don't beat around the b7sh. We spent the night together.7

Yeah, the ole' sexy reporter trick - sleep with someone and they'll share all their secrets in their relaxed state.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:55 am so I claimed to be lust and that I was starting an orgy

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:08 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:55 am so I claimed to be lust and that I was starting an orgy

This is the man who carried us

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:29 am like obviously it's preferable to killing town but

what if killing sins is like entirely not beneficial, or worse yet helps John Doe?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:46 am I dunno I'm just mad sus about why they both went belly up and Kate immediately started just complimenting Seanzie. Neither give a single shit about being caught. Why?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:55 am She didn't believe me, and sent me a screenshot of her rolecard (she is lust)

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:49 am [*]You may not share a picture of or quote word-for-word anything from your Role PM

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:10 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:08 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:55 am so I claimed to be lust and that I was starting an orgy

This is the man who carried us

We were caught in a net.