The Syndicate

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:06 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:01 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:09 pm LC is confirmed from v!hallys pov so

he is impossible to tinfoil without also tinfoiling hally

the converse isnt true (w hally / v lc is possible), but yeah

probably just cant be lc

i still buy that hally just couldnt make that claim up as wolf

I dont understand Hally's clears. They ALL depend on MR being mafia. How does Hally KNOW that MR was mafia.

Why does Hally clear Nutella?

Why does Hally clear LC?

It all relies on MR being mafia. There is nothing to confirm MR was mafia.

I dont want to vote for Hally, I advocated a check on Hally.

if I die in poe, its whatever since I said its not terrible for me to die yesterday.

if Mr isn't mafia he has to be vig

if Mr is vig, Nutella has to be scum

people have entertained this world and mostly still concluded it's less likely than Nutella being what she claims with the nightkill from MR Having been redirected

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:07 am if proto flips town should i peek in dizzy-amy-iaafr-benson or should i peek hally to clear her + lc? (and nut??? but i forgot again)

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:12 am if i’m checked and ppl still concoct a weird ass tinfoil of how i, lc or nut can be still be wolves i’m punting whatever person tinfoils that into the sun

when i come back green that is the end of the tinfoil. full stop

not gonna have tutuu burn a check on me just to have someone tell me why it doesn’t mean what it actually means

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:25 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:20 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:45 pm tbh actually mafia killing tim could be like a game losing play

they really had to target within the clears because like, eventually i will be confirmed and so will nut, lc, colin, tutuu, wwh and nanook

and like, i don’t think wolves have enough nights left to kill all the clear ppl if they didn’t start like... last night and even then it’s a stretch

but like i think no matter what kill they make there theyre fucked in some way

Please stop calling people confirmed then when they are not.

Tutuu is almost confirmed for redchecking mafia.
Nanoon is almost confirmed for shooting mafia.
WWH is confirmed because of my logic as to why mafia dont have a redirect, which you said you didnt understand.

Thats it.

Nobody else is really confirmed.

from MY pov, LC is confirmed to have not gone anywhere/done anything in the first night, unless someone with higher priority jacked me in the night.

people are confirmed, you just don’t understand why

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:41 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

So Hally cant redirect town vigi?

they can ONLY redirect mafia?

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:41 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

So Hally cant redirect town vigi?

they can ONLY redirect mafia?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am Hally and Nutella are way more linked than Hally to LC.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:41 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

So Hally cant redirect town vigi?

they can ONLY redirect mafia?

Hally says she can't make Mafia kill Mafia with her redirect, I believe.

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am Hally and Nutella are way more linked than Hally to LC.

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:38 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:25 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:20 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:45 pm tbh actually mafia killing tim could be like a game losing play

they really had to target within the clears because like, eventually i will be confirmed and so will nut, lc, colin, tutuu, wwh and nanook

and like, i don’t think wolves have enough nights left to kill all the clear ppl if they didn’t start like... last night and even then it’s a stretch

but like i think no matter what kill they make there theyre fucked in some way

Please stop calling people confirmed then when they are not.

Tutuu is almost confirmed for redchecking mafia.
Nanoon is almost confirmed for shooting mafia.
WWH is confirmed because of my logic as to why mafia dont have a redirect, which you said you didnt understand.

Thats it.

Nobody else is really confirmed.

from MY pov, LC is confirmed to have not gone anywhere/done anything in the first night, unless someone with higher priority jacked me in the night.

people are confirmed, you just don’t understand why

Explain it then so Tutuu doesnt burn a check instead of saying "ffs im town stop being dumb"

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:41 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

So Hally cant redirect town vigi?

they can ONLY redirect mafia?

I AM TOWN VIGI I SHOT RADISHES AND HE DIED AND IT WAS JANITORED LIKE MY ROLE SAYS

are you suggesting there was another town vigi who shot LC

???????????

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

This isn’t technically true yeah? In theory MR could’ve been town vig and LC BP mafia

I’m not saying that’s the case just saying it isn’t, like...impossible mechanically

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

This isn’t technically true yeah? In theory MR could’ve been town vig and LC BP mafia

I’m not saying that’s the case just saying it isn’t, like...impossible mechanically

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:43 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am Hally and Nutella are way more linked than Hally to LC.

This is just provably untrue lmfao

I feel like you haven't read half the game to even have this thought

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:43 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:41 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

So Hally cant redirect town vigi?

they can ONLY redirect mafia?

Hally says she can't make Mafia kill Mafia with her redirect, I believe.

Right, so Hally can only clear LC if hally KNOWS MR is mafia.

How does Hally KNOW MR is mafia? They dont.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:44 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

This isn’t technically true yeah? In theory MR could’ve been town vig and LC BP mafia

I’m not saying that’s the case just saying it isn’t, like...impossible mechanically

But Mafia killing MR is truly outlandish.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:44 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

This isn’t technically true yeah? In theory MR could’ve been town vig and LC BP mafia

I’m not saying that’s the case just saying it isn’t, like...impossible mechanically

But Mafia killing MR is truly outlandish.

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:43 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:41 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

So Hally cant redirect town vigi?

they can ONLY redirect mafia?

I AM TOWN VIGI I SHOT RADISHES AND HE DIED AND IT WAS JANITORED LIKE MY ROLE SAYS

are you suggesting there was another town vigi who shot LC

???????????

Your claim is also super unconfirmed to everyone except you.

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:43 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:38 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:25 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:20 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:45 pm tbh actually mafia killing tim could be like a game losing play

they really had to target within the clears because like, eventually i will be confirmed and so will nut, lc, colin, tutuu, wwh and nanook

and like, i don’t think wolves have enough nights left to kill all the clear ppl if they didn’t start like... last night and even then it’s a stretch

but like i think no matter what kill they make there theyre fucked in some way

Please stop calling people confirmed then when they are not.

Tutuu is almost confirmed for redchecking mafia.
Nanoon is almost confirmed for shooting mafia.
WWH is confirmed because of my logic as to why mafia dont have a redirect, which you said you didnt understand.

Thats it.

Nobody else is really confirmed.

from MY pov, LC is confirmed to have not gone anywhere/done anything in the first night, unless someone with higher priority jacked me in the night.

people are confirmed, you just don’t understand why

Explain it then so Tutuu doesnt burn a check instead of saying "ffs im town stop being dumb"

i refuse to explain it again

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:45 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:43 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am Hally and Nutella are way more linked than Hally to LC.

This is just provably untrue lmfao

I feel like you haven't read half the game to even have this thought

I am asking the same questions over and over, nobody is giving me answers that clear the people it says it clears.

Nutella pov is at least consistent.

Hally's is not.

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:45 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:43 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am Hally and Nutella are way more linked than Hally to LC.

This is just provably untrue lmfao

I feel like you haven't read half the game to even have this thought

I am asking the same questions over and over, nobody is giving me answers that clear the people it says it clears.

Nutella pov is at least consistent.

Hally's is not.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:45 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:43 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:41 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

So Hally cant redirect town vigi?

they can ONLY redirect mafia?

Hally says she can't make Mafia kill Mafia with her redirect, I believe.

Right, so Hally can only clear LC if hally KNOWS MR is mafia.

How does Hally KNOW MR is mafia? They dont.

She knows because the Mafia had a kill to make that night, and it didn't go through. She redirected Radish onto me, and I took a kill hit and survived. The logic is pretty clear.

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:46 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:43 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:38 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:25 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:20 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:45 pm tbh actually mafia killing tim could be like a game losing play

they really had to target within the clears because like, eventually i will be confirmed and so will nut, lc, colin, tutuu, wwh and nanook

and like, i don’t think wolves have enough nights left to kill all the clear ppl if they didn’t start like... last night and even then it’s a stretch

but like i think no matter what kill they make there theyre fucked in some way

Please stop calling people confirmed then when they are not.

Tutuu is almost confirmed for redchecking mafia.
Nanoon is almost confirmed for shooting mafia.
WWH is confirmed because of my logic as to why mafia dont have a redirect, which you said you didnt understand.

Thats it.

Nobody else is really confirmed.

from MY pov, LC is confirmed to have not gone anywhere/done anything in the first night, unless someone with higher priority jacked me in the night.

people are confirmed, you just don’t understand why

Explain it then so Tutuu doesnt burn a check instead of saying "ffs im town stop being dumb"

i refuse to explain it again

cool

dont complain if we lose from a check on you then

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:46 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:43 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:41 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

So Hally cant redirect town vigi?

they can ONLY redirect mafia?

I AM TOWN VIGI I SHOT RADISHES AND HE DIED AND IT WAS JANITORED LIKE MY ROLE SAYS

are you suggesting there was another town vigi who shot LC

???????????

Your claim is also super unconfirmed to everyone except you.

LC believes it because of the percentage thing, other people believe it because it's too specific for me to have made up, idk dude think what you want but look at how i claimed it right away, i can't come up with that as scum lol

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:46 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:44 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

This isn’t technically true yeah? In theory MR could’ve been town vig and LC BP mafia

I’m not saying that’s the case just saying it isn’t, like...impossible mechanically

But Mafia killing MR is truly outlandish.

It is, unless they had like a day cop or a n0 cop or some extra mech stuff that let them know MR's role (potential town vig) in advance. or something

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:49 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:46 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:43 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:41 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

So Hally cant redirect town vigi?

they can ONLY redirect mafia?

I AM TOWN VIGI I SHOT RADISHES AND HE DIED AND IT WAS JANITORED LIKE MY ROLE SAYS

are you suggesting there was another town vigi who shot LC

???????????

Your claim is also super unconfirmed to everyone except you.

LC believes it because of the percentage thing, other people believe it because it's too specific for me to have made up, idk dude think what you want but look at how i claimed it right away, i can't come up with that as scum lol

This is exactly how I make the claim if I am scum.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:47 am Benson also said he didn't actually protect tutuu that night as well...? Or was that a joke? Alison randed onto... ted was it? Maybe the Mafia tried to kill ted... but then who hit me in the vest? I guess I'm scum in that world, lying about the vest, to support a larger conspiracy.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:49 am Who hit me then?

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:48 am *quietly rereads amy iso*

41/60

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:52 am [VOTE: amy] aubergine

tunnels back on baby woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lets gooooo

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:51 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:49 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:46 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:43 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:42 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:41 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:36 am proto i think you're still fundamentally misunderstanding something

hally literally mechanically knows radish was a wolf from their ability

therefore lc and i are clear from hally's perspective

and i know i'm town and so if mr could only be town if i'm not then mr was not town


not sure what you're missing but this is like, pretty established

So Hally cant redirect town vigi?

they can ONLY redirect mafia?

I AM TOWN VIGI I SHOT RADISHES AND HE DIED AND IT WAS JANITORED LIKE MY ROLE SAYS

are you suggesting there was another town vigi who shot LC

???????????

Your claim is also super unconfirmed to everyone except you.

LC believes it because of the percentage thing, other people believe it because it's too specific for me to have made up, idk dude think what you want but look at how i claimed it right away, i can't come up with that as scum lol

This is exactly how I make the claim if I am scum.

nutella kills Radishes as scum (why??? how??) and then claims town vig on the kill. Radioshes was town vig and hit me (why?). Is that what you're proposing?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:54 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:48 am *quietly rereads amy iso*

41/60

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:52 am [VOTE: amy] aubergine

tunnels back on baby woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lets gooooo

yknow i could be sold

proto is maybe actually trying to solve here, albeit with poor reasoning but potentially from a genuine place


amy's done fuckall and her role actually could pretty easily be a mafia role