The Syndicate

basically for the love of god can we start talking about someone who isn't marmot?

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:44 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:43 am For people to observe and reflect on in their own minds, and perhaps even comment on if they feel so inclined.

What do you, one such commenter, think about the fact that I've talked about the night kills more than anybody else?

idk myself yet okay?

But I could totally see you doing it. Killing all those innocent high posters, then shaming the rest of us like "WHO CONCEIVED OF THIS VILE TREACHERY" So I'm just floating the idea out there right now, see if it goes anywhere.

Anyways after sleeping on it I'm slightly less suss of speed. K-Ness is my deepest ping.

(After Marmot ofc ofc)

I mean the GTH speaks for itself I guess out of the five people who participated

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:49 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:47 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:41 pm "Hey I have an idea. I know we lynched ACTUALLY MEGA MAN Day 1 and then there were THREE NIGHT KILLS before the next lynch... but you know what would be fun? Voting for a guy we don't want to lynch and then fucking right the hell off forever."

Tone read scum.

I'm confirmed civ how dare u

Three games in a row now, the player who tries to demotivate the town has been scum. Js.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:00 pm Hey real quick why are they called Written Essays? What else am I gonna do besides write that shit down? Like, 'No thanks teach, think I'll explain the moral complexities of Atticus Finch through interpretive dance this time."

I would pay good money.

Talk about how Atticus was just Harper Lee’s Dad and the sequel would show he was kinda racist too.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:39 pm I most definitely saw dizzy earlier today and they haven’t voted.

Quin never voted when he was imprisoned, so he probably couldn’t vote either.

Imprisoner has dizzy today is my guess


Marmot wasn’t imprisoned because his vote obviously counted. So we can mark that off from him “accidentally” posting. Whomever had suggested that

Mafia double voter and silencer makes lylo way closer than normal.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:52 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:39 pm I most definitely saw dizzy earlier today and they haven’t voted.

Quin never voted when he was imprisoned, so he probably couldn’t vote either.

Imprisoner has dizzy today is my guess


Marmot wasn’t imprisoned because his vote obviously counted. So we can mark that off from him “accidentally” posting. Whomever had suggested that

Mafia double voter and silencer makes lylo way closer than normal.

what if the secret to wily and light is they know everyone's role power?

Kness, not knowing most people here, is not going to pick the mafia kill if he’s bad unless he’s the only active scum player, in which case I agree with Quin that he isn’t calling these shots.

It'd be pretty miraculous for mafia to get, a day/night skipper, a silencer+roleblocker, and a doublevoter

all on chance, just picking roles

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:21 am Kness, not knowing most people here, is not going to pick the mafia kill if he’s bad unless he’s the only active scum player, in which case I agree with Quin that he isn’t calling these shots.

I think Luna was more than capable of handling the kill if no one else on the team stepped up to help her decide.

She's prolly still in the baddie chatroom helping call the shots

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:59 am @sprityo
@speedchuck

You both listed Wilgy as bad and Soneji as good in the GTH. Why?

Soneji because I feel like him being semi-gone is sorta normal, and because I had slammed down a TON of bads already. I didn't really have a feeling for him.

Wilgy because Wilgy - g = Wily.

Catching up now. I haven't been on since 6 or so last night. DMing.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:05 am Conclusion:

I am town

Jack and sprityo are both scum.

Carry on. [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

YOU SAID YOU'D TELL ME WHYY!

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:46 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:49 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:47 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:41 pm "Hey I have an idea. I know we lynched ACTUALLY MEGA MAN Day 1 and then there were THREE NIGHT KILLS before the next lynch... but you know what would be fun? Voting for a guy we don't want to lynch and then fucking right the hell off forever."

Tone read scum.

I'm confirmed civ how dare u

Three games in a row now, the player who tries to demotivate the town has been scum. Js.

I'm conflicted. I completely agree with you, and yet have this strong drive to follow DH.

For the record though, I was a townie in firefly mafia, and I called our first scumlynch a 'fluke'. People didn't like that.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:59 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:46 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:49 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:47 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:41 pm "Hey I have an idea. I know we lynched ACTUALLY MEGA MAN Day 1 and then there were THREE NIGHT KILLS before the next lynch... but you know what would be fun? Voting for a guy we don't want to lynch and then fucking right the hell off forever."

Tone read scum.

I'm confirmed civ how dare u

Three games in a row now, the player who tries to demotivate the town has been scum. Js.

I'm conflicted. I completely agree with you, and yet have this strong drive to follow DH.

For the record though, I was a townie in firefly mafia, and I called our first scumlynch a 'fluke'. People didn't like that.

Hey fuckbois

I'm not trying to demotivate anybody. From the looks when I got here yall were plenty demotivated on your own. What I wanna do is make sure the thumb-up-ass disease don't spread past where it is already.

"We're not demotivated!" they scream through tears and mouthfuls of cheez-it crackers 4 hours after my post

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:17 pm "We're not demotivated!" they scream through tears and mouthfuls of cheez-it crackers 4 hours after my post

You’re not even wrong.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:33 amReady for another wild guess? Marmot is cutman and used his power night 3 in anticipation of day4, halved his votes from 5 to 3. Gemini man, his teammate votes simon with him to ensure that he isn’t lynched. His other teammate is now giving him info on the imprisoner to try and fake us out.

wouldn't this scenario also necessitate a mafia quin or mafia dyslexicon?

outside of the scenario where said teammate actually is the imprisoner I guess

[mention]K-Ness[/mention] we have tons of role-talk for you at the moment!

The cure for thumb up ass disease is a mafioso lynch and we all know it but thanks DH for keeping us on the straight and narrow

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:10 pm The cure for thumb up ass disease is a mafioso lynch and we all know it but thanks DH for keeping us on the straight and narrow

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:23 am Bullzeye - I know next to nothing about his playstyle. Bullzeye, can you talk about it a little bit? With differences between your town and scum games? At the moment, I don't have any reason to rule him out. Being a returning player, maybe he'd be more likely to take a backseat in BTSC.

I don't really know how to explain how I play. I think we have played a few games together before but obviously it was ages ago. I'm usually fairly quiet regardless of alignment and tend to get more talkative as games go on. I don't really have a civ meta that I'm aware of, there's probably things other people could pick up on but nothing that I can remember being pointed out to me.

When I'm bad I'm usually very active in btsc and really engaged with planning, if I were bad here I probably wouldn't take a backseat. I find scheming and strategising as a baddie to be the most fun part of the game. That said, as a baddie I do go with the flow a bit. If my team have an idea I don't really see the value of but everyone else wants to do it, I'll generally go along with it because I like everyone to be happy. I can get a bit too defensive when bad and will avoid voting teammates as much as I possibly can.

As far as killing the thread leaders, it'd be something I'd consider but I wouldn't want to kill all of them one by one. JJJ and Mac would've been high on my list of potential threats for instance, but I'd be inclined to let them live as long as they weren't actively causing too much trouble. I'd have wanted to kill a no-show or low poster on Night 1, that's a favourite of mine just because it sucks to be killed off first so I'd prefer the disappointment go to someone who wasn't very engaged anyway. I would've argued strongly against killing a high poster on Night 1 for that reason unless there was a clear tactical advantage beyond "he's good at the game".

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:39 pm

Bullzeye wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:17 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:05 pm

Bullzeye wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:57 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:17 am If Marmot is town, Gemini Man is scum and almost certain Speedchuck.

If Marmot is scum and not Gemini Man, same conclusion.

Can Marmot not be town and Gemini Man?

The main thing I don't understand is why in my catch up people seem to be assuming Gemini Man is definitely a baddie with what appears to be no evidence other than his vote to tie the lynch. I'm not opposed to re-lynching Marmot, especially if I can be presented with a convincing answer to this question.

If that’s the case, why didn’t he defend himself then or in the next day?

To what end does townie Marmot throw someone else under the bus only to let himself be mislynched the next day? (Same question if Marmot isn’t GM I suppose.)

Gemini Man (and Speedchuck and LC) caused us to waste a day lynching Simon when the consensus was that Marmot should be lynched. Simon was town. None of those players gave a good reason for lynching Simon over Marmot yet here we are. Ergo, Gemini Man looks shady af.

He seems to be claiming he was silenced and broke the rules of it by posting. Not sure if I buy it. As to why he hasn't defended himself since:

If I had the ability to apply an extra vote to someone, you can 100% guarantee I'd use it defensively regardless of my alignment. I guess that's why I can see a civ GM voting to tie up a lynch to protect himself. I'm mostly just playing devil's advocate with this though, my questioning here is more with regard to Gemini Man specifically.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:07 pm To me the smartest and most damning thing about Marmot is "Why bother tacking onto the Luna vote unless it's for cred"

Okay this is a solid point.

Can you pull where he said this? It's very important.

I suppose he never explicitly said as much, just said a few times that he wasn't supposed to post at all during day 4. If it were true he'd likely have been visibly punished, so...

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

I've got a packed schedule today so I'm gonna vote as soon as i make sure I don't have to use that vote tag.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:37 pm [VOTE: DharmaH'elper's pronounced disdain of the voting tag makes him less cool than if he were just apathetic about it] aubergine

Yeah well my shit stinks the same as yours.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:41 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:37 pm [VOTE: DharmaH'elper's pronounced disdain of the voting tag makes him less cool than if he were just apathetic about it] aubergine

Yeah well my shit stinks the same as yours.

i think his might smell like turnips

DH might be bad, and honestly, why wouldn't he be? I just don't know if I'll have time to get him lynched. Life is so short compadres.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:46 pm DH might be bad, and honestly, why wouldn't he be? I just don't know if I'll have time to get him lynched. Life is so short compadres.

Priority replacements are often bad. But hey we're lynching Marmot.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:49 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:46 pm DH might be bad, and honestly, why wouldn't he be? I just don't know if I'll have time to get him lynched. Life is so short compadres.

Priority replacements are often bad. But hey we're lynching Marmot.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:53 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:49 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:46 pm DH might be bad, and honestly, why wouldn't he be? I just don't know if I'll have time to get him lynched. Life is so short compadres.

Priority replacements are often bad. But hey we're lynching Marmot.

Dizzy is in a different replacement tier altogether. She replaced someone who hasn't been here at all since before the game started.

You replaced one of the MANY that have talked but then stopped talking for whatever reason. Infected Alien wasn't near as egregious as Wilgy or Soneji, but somehow took priority anyway.

Is this angleshooting or something? Can't tell.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:08 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:53 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:49 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:46 pm DH might be bad, and honestly, why wouldn't he be? I just don't know if I'll have time to get him lynched. Life is so short compadres.

Priority replacements are often bad. But hey we're lynching Marmot.

Dizzy is in a different replacement tier altogether. She replaced someone who hasn't been here at all since before the game started.

You replaced one of the MANY that have talked but then stopped talking for whatever reason. Infected Alien wasn't near as egregious as Wilgy or Soneji, but somehow took priority anyway.

Is this angleshooting or something? Can't tell.

I dunno what angleshooting is so i'm either doing that or I'm not.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:17 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:08 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:53 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:49 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:46 pm DH might be bad, and honestly, why wouldn't he be? I just don't know if I'll have time to get him lynched. Life is so short compadres.

Priority replacements are often bad. But hey we're lynching Marmot.

Dizzy is in a different replacement tier altogether. She replaced someone who hasn't been here at all since before the game started.

You replaced one of the MANY that have talked but then stopped talking for whatever reason. Infected Alien wasn't near as egregious as Wilgy or Soneji, but somehow took priority anyway.

Is this angleshooting or something? Can't tell.

I dunno what angleshooting is so i'm either doing that or I'm not.

Same here.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:06 am Bullzeye
K-Ness
Long Con
Marmot
nova
Turnip Head

I believe whoever is killing our thread leaders is within this group. I'd like opinions on this.

You might as well take me off that list and make this easier.

I'll vote Marmot to help edge out any Cut Man tactics.

I don't have any suspicion of Dizzy, but I wonder if this is the time in the game when imprisoning your own teammate for cred might be tried. I don't have any strong town feelings about Dizzy either.

Oopsie Poopsie

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:43 pm Oopsie Poopsie

Can't believe that's the only post in the last almost 5 hours before the Lynch was up.

[mention]Marmot[/mention] do you have any last words

worbs

wait, sorry it's "words" i had it right the first time