Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 4]
Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 8:40 pm
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
I do not agree. If I didn't reveal my green peek I would have been the kill target for sure.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:29 pmDid you not read where I said that I find it unbelievable that you would be killed?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:27 pmIf I didn't out myself I would have been an obvious kill and my green peek goes to the grave with me so how bout no.
I said I was the cop and had a green peek because I am the cop and I have a green peek
I'm finna have to press x to doubt.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:41 pmI do not agree. If I didn't reveal my green peek I would have been the kill target for sure.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:29 pmDid you not read where I said that I find it unbelievable that you would be killed?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:27 pmIf I didn't out myself I would have been an obvious kill and my green peek goes to the grave with me so how bout no.
If I am the Mafia and there is a cop that knows another civ's alignment and they don't say anything that cop is dead as fuck.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:43 pmI'm finna have to press x to doubt.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:41 pmI do not agree. If I didn't reveal my green peek I would have been the kill target for sure.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:29 pmDid you not read where I said that I find it unbelievable that you would be killed?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:27 pmIf I didn't out myself I would have been an obvious kill and my green peek goes to the grave with me so how bout no.
Assuming that mafia knows who the cop is in the first.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:45 pmIf I am the Mafia and there is a cop that knows another civ's alignment and they don't say anything that cop is dead as fuck.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:43 pmI'm finna have to press x to doubt.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:41 pmI do not agree. If I didn't reveal my green peek I would have been the kill target for sure.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:29 pmDid you not read where I said that I find it unbelievable that you would be killed?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:27 pmIf I didn't out myself I would have been an obvious kill and my green peek goes to the grave with me so how bout no.
I literally told themDragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:49 pmAssuming that mafia knows who the cop is in the first.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:45 pmIf I am the Mafia and there is a cop that knows another civ's alignment and they don't say anything that cop is dead as fuck.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:43 pmI'm finna have to press x to doubt.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:41 pmI do not agree. If I didn't reveal my green peek I would have been the kill target for sure.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:29 pmDid you not read where I said that I find it unbelievable that you would be killed?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:27 pmIf I didn't out myself I would have been an obvious kill and my green peek goes to the grave with me so how bout no.
In the first place.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:49 pmAssuming that mafia knows who the cop is in the first.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:45 pmIf I am the Mafia and there is a cop that knows another civ's alignment and they don't say anything that cop is dead as fuck.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:43 pmI'm finna have to press x to doubt.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:41 pmI do not agree. If I didn't reveal my green peek I would have been the kill target for sure.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:29 pmDid you not read where I said that I find it unbelievable that you would be killed?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:27 pmIf I didn't out myself I would have been an obvious kill and my green peek goes to the grave with me so how bout no.
Before you claimed.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:50 pmI literally told themDragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:49 pmAssuming that mafia knows who the cop is in the first.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:45 pmIf I am the Mafia and there is a cop that knows another civ's alignment and they don't say anything that cop is dead as fuck.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:43 pmI'm finna have to press x to doubt.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:41 pmI do not agree. If I didn't reveal my green peek I would have been the kill target for sure.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:29 pmDid you not read where I said that I find it unbelievable that you would be killed?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:27 pm
If I didn't out myself I would have been an obvious kill and my green peek goes to the grave with me so how bout no.
So you are confused as to why I didn't just hold onto the information? Or is it why I initially claimed without just sharing the info?Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:53 pmBefore you claimed.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:50 pmI literally told themDragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:49 pmAssuming that mafia knows who the cop is in the first.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:45 pmIf I am the Mafia and there is a cop that knows another civ's alignment and they don't say anything that cop is dead as fuck.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:43 pmI'm finna have to press x to doubt.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 8:41 pmI do not agree. If I didn't reveal my green peek I would have been the kill target for sure.
What’s the point of this if the modifier is on alignment copspeedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 6:15 pm"Ninja: Kills performed with Ninja cannot be detected (serves no purpose if player is town)"
Mac had been hard pushing DDL until yesterday where he decided he was tunneling and stoppedDragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:06 pmOk, everybody besides you and me. The point is, DDL is no danger of being lynched or having a wagon form on him anyhow.
I had forgot that the cop only gets one peek.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:07 pm I don't know why this is such a confusing thing to do. I have a one shot cop in an open role claim game. Not sharing my peek on the day I got it makes fuck all sense.
If the cop is one-shot and has used his shot? YES.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:41 pmWith logic like that a cop should claim D1 every game no? I find it unbelievable that scum would view Mac as someone to kill when he was being suspected several times and could be someone to mislynch. Mac is now in greater threat of dying than when he was hidden and unclaimed.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:38 pmIs your stance that Mac should not have given town information to use, and possibly died eventually without giving us this knowledge?Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:26 pmSolidifying them into the core for what reason? DDL is only being scum read by two ppl, who tf will check him? Me or you when nobody knows if we are an invest or not? It makes no sense to put somebody in the core who was already in the core. Mac would out himself so he doesn't get checked? That's kinda dumb but ok.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:22 pmMac claiming makes perfect sense. It solidifies DDL and Mac into the core without sacrificing any future checks... because he has none.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:18 pmWhat do you think about what I said about Mac and Nut?
Because I'm sitting here like what
Me neither.Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 12:10 amI dont think your approach has been that similarnutella wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 10:58 pmFor what it's worth DDL and I have somewhat similar approaches to the game so I probably have a different reaction to his play so far than you (idk if you've played with him before?) and imo he looks good here. I don't care if you think you're hunting more, it looks fake whereas his reads look organic.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 10:50 pmHard disagree with this read. First of all, DDL ain't actively trying to hunt shit. Second of all, I've done more hunting than he has and you ain't town reading me. I'll elaborate more if you want in the morning when I wake up.![]()
I don't see Sigs. What's there?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:08 pm Also why has nobody questioned why I put Wolbre's banner in my signature?! Fuck it's been there for months and nobody has said a thing.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:22 pmMe neither.Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 12:10 amI dont think your approach has been that similarnutella wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 10:58 pmFor what it's worth DDL and I have somewhat similar approaches to the game so I probably have a different reaction to his play so far than you (idk if you've played with him before?) and imo he looks good here. I don't care if you think you're hunting more, it looks fake whereas his reads look organic.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 10:50 pmHard disagree with this read. First of all, DDL ain't actively trying to hunt shit. Second of all, I've done more hunting than he has and you ain't town reading me. I'll elaborate more if you want in the morning when I wake up.![]()
I also suspect pocketing.
I FORGOT THAT COP HAD ONLY A ONE-SHOT IN THIS SETUP.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:20 pmIf the cop is one-shot and has used his shot? YES.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:41 pmWith logic like that a cop should claim D1 every game no? I find it unbelievable that scum would view Mac as someone to kill when he was being suspected several times and could be someone to mislynch. Mac is now in greater threat of dying than when he was hidden and unclaimed.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:38 pmIs your stance that Mac should not have given town information to use, and possibly died eventually without giving us this knowledge?Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:26 pmSolidifying them into the core for what reason? DDL is only being scum read by two ppl, who tf will check him? Me or you when nobody knows if we are an invest or not? It makes no sense to put somebody in the core who was already in the core. Mac would out himself so he doesn't get checked? That's kinda dumb but ok.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:22 pmMac claiming makes perfect sense. It solidifies DDL and Mac into the core without sacrificing any future checks... because he has none.
Because I'm sitting here like what
I FORGOT THAT COP HAD ONLY A ONE-SHOT IN THIS SETUP.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:20 pmIf the cop is one-shot and has used his shot? YES.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:41 pmWith logic like that a cop should claim D1 every game no? I find it unbelievable that scum would view Mac as someone to kill when he was being suspected several times and could be someone to mislynch. Mac is now in greater threat of dying than when he was hidden and unclaimed.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:38 pmIs your stance that Mac should not have given town information to use, and possibly died eventually without giving us this knowledge?Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:26 pmSolidifying them into the core for what reason? DDL is only being scum read by two ppl, who tf will check him? Me or you when nobody knows if we are an invest or not? It makes no sense to put somebody in the core who was already in the core. Mac would out himself so he doesn't get checked? That's kinda dumb but ok.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:22 pmMac claiming makes perfect sense. It solidifies DDL and Mac into the core without sacrificing any future checks... because he has none.
Because I'm sitting here like what
You're fine.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:28 pmI FORGOT THAT COP HAD ONLY A ONE-SHOT IN THIS SETUP.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:20 pmIf the cop is one-shot and has used his shot? YES.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:41 pmWith logic like that a cop should claim D1 every game no? I find it unbelievable that scum would view Mac as someone to kill when he was being suspected several times and could be someone to mislynch. Mac is now in greater threat of dying than when he was hidden and unclaimed.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:38 pmIs your stance that Mac should not have given town information to use, and possibly died eventually without giving us this knowledge?Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:26 pmSolidifying them into the core for what reason? DDL is only being scum read by two ppl, who tf will check him? Me or you when nobody knows if we are an invest or not? It makes no sense to put somebody in the core who was already in the core. Mac would out himself so he doesn't get checked? That's kinda dumb but ok.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:22 pmMac claiming makes perfect sense. It solidifies DDL and Mac into the core without sacrificing any future checks... because he has none.
Because I'm sitting here like what
Don't mean to be rude or anything with the all caps.
No I've just seen the mafiawiki make a big deal about it so I keep it on the back of my head in case it one day becomes useful.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 12:41 pm Does anyone else have familiarity with the "chainsaw defense" concept, i.e. have they seen the accusation hurled before in other games? A little clarity on the precise context and meaning of the thing would be super.
Nah man.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 3:07 pm My first instinct is that DDL is genuine in his suspicion of me. As I just noted, we've been in a similar place before, and I can understand if he feels the need to stand as some resistance to my authority over the game.
I like winning more than I like being right.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:32 pmThe stuff that you guys find me to be doing as unreasonable is not as unreasonable as you may think.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 2:28 pm Please tell me the remaining 4 pages I have to read are not just people trying to make Dragomir act reasonably and failing to do so.
Because it's making this catch-up boring.
I understand that gloating may be TMI and a bad thing and not giving town reads is also a bad thing but that's just part of my personality mate. I love being right and it hurts when I'm wrong. Basically why I keep playing mafia as I want to have correct reads and if they're wrong I'll use them as motivation.
Like come on, you guys can't be telling me you don't like rubbing it in once in a while.
You are ruining my intent of gloating about Jay after I catch him because the way you keep talking about it makes the idea itself feel bad.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:45 pmI want Owner to be lynched now and have him flip scum, then when I flip town, you will be dumbfounded by the flip and then I will laugh.
Omg thanksMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 5:16 pm In the name of the Jay, I charge you to make effort cases. In the name of the Dunya, I charge you to be creepily accurate. In the name of the Epi, I charge you to irritate the scum into failure. Arise, Luffy of Naruto Forums, a civ of the S6 Scrimmage.
You ain't talking to me, but I'm f#&@ing moved.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 10:33 pmOmg thanksMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 5:16 pm In the name of the Jay, I charge you to make effort cases. In the name of the Dunya, I charge you to be creepily accurate. In the name of the Epi, I charge you to irritate the scum into failure. Arise, Luffy of Naruto Forums, a civ of the S6 Scrimmage.![]()
Now lets lynch Jay.
No seriously, Mac. Look at me. From man to man. We have been together in the same faction many times. As both civ/civ and w/w. We have won a game where we made Jay mislynch 7 times while we laughed at him from Chatzy. It was fun. But now I am offering an even bigger pleasure. We are going to catch him with stealing the cookie pot.
You may think hes civ because he made 285383938 ISOs and played every item from the Jay playbook. But who do you say is the town leader now? Luxurious? Maybe you? Nova was a decent leader too. But Jay is not, because he is not engaging. He is not talking to us. He is in his little world, filling the Jay checklist while the rest of us are mind melding.
Then we will propose some obvious bait lynch (dragomir/rdw/jessie) and Jay will join. Then they will flip town, we will say "alas, poor scummy civ" and we will go back to playing while Jay will start working on Jayexercise #8.
This has to stop. I have descended from the skies to purge the corrupt Teddy Bear from the Earth. I shall fulfill this mission then gladly take a night kill for it. For I am Luffy, cleanser of fake town leaders.
Join me.