The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 6:39 am Dude, I’m obviously not going to get poisoned while I’m being pushed so hard. That’s the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard.

Also I wouldn’t have gotten poisoned until last night, but do you know what happened yesterday...that’s right, idiots pushed me! Well, tbf, jack might not be an idiot, he might just be scum, but not everyone has that excuse.

Anyways I’m disengaging again now, I find it hard to believe how hard you’re deciding to throw here but you do you I guess. I will say I told you so in post game.

Johann wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 2:49 am Most people here believe Nanook is town bcs he shot red and nanook himself likes to brag about it. If you read D2 i was the first one to push on Drago and the one that advocated his death the most. Rest of people soon picked it up too and Dragimir became suspect number 1. Dragomirs death was 100 gurantee. Nanook shoot Dragomir and the rest is history. After killing of Dragomir nanook started to boast how he is townie and he killed a scum, like he is the only one that knew Dragomir is scum. In fact majority of us knew and sooner or later he would die. So Nanook decided to cement his town position and shoot scum. Nothing now stands in his position.

After that he became cocky and took a back seat because he is confident in his position. You now have a player that killed a scum and is universaly read by most to be town and can get the gun again... yet mafia chooses to poison me? It makws 0 sense at all to leave Nanook alive after everything like 0%. If you were scum ask yourself would you leave Nanook alive? Ofc not!

He then said despite having "juciy opportunities" to push for me he didnt. What kind of townie says shit like that? Like hello?

This day phase so far has been really bad. No activity or trying to figure out stuff. Most of you are all locked in your reads and too lazy or stubborn to change. If one of you just dropped it for a bit and read some you would see a bigger picture.

You are being played hard and with activity and passion like this you will lose hard

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 4:16 am

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:17 pm Quotes galore that I want to point out when I’m not on my phone. I feel like James Dean in Rebel Without a Cause. Nanook and Jack seem to be arm-wrestling for control of the game today. Nanook was posting like someone who was sure he was going to get poisoned last night but showed no surprise at it not happening. Instead, he pivoted into a strong stance. Jack continues to flail about. It’s like the more he talks the harder it is to see clearly (or what I thought was clearly).

So, here is the state of things right now from my perspective. Both Nanook and Jack have town cleared me, Funny, and a couple others. On the other hand people in the town clear pile are suspecting Boo, Jack, and Nanook. I don't feel like Boo or Jack are arm-wrestling for control, because there's a chance one will get shot after the other for all we know. From my perspective, they are trying to push forward arguments why the other could be scum for the people in their town clears.

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:17 pm Can anyone see Jack-Nanook teammate compatibility in any of this? That’s the tinfoiliest of tinfoil for two baddies to go this cutthroat and vocal, but it drowns out all discussion and wears everybody out. Is that happening here? It feels too organic to be fake to me. I still want to believe that common sense dictates it is pointless for Nanook to kill a teammate when he doesn’t have to. Someone said he did it recently. If that’s true, then I have to wonder if he’s ballsy enough to try the same play again so soon. I didn’t play whatever game that was, so I haven’t been burned by it personally to vacate him of that defense.

If Boo flips town, one of those two are gonna get shot next, so they can't really hide from people. I think it's more likely that only one of them is scum, if at all.

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:17 pm Nanook and Jack both seem to have Boo in their shoot list. Johann has said today that both Nanook and Boo look like scum. If it weren’t for that, I might worry that Boo was being touted about as a red herring. That could still be the case in the tinfoiliest of tinfoil, but that means we’re being played hard and/or overlooking someone. I am guilty of mostly sheeping a civ read of Funnygurl based on the civ reads of others. With no playing experience with her, I have to trust your collective guts on her.

In Nanook's case, I feel like he was forced to include Boo in their shoot list after me and a bunch of other people kept yelling in the game that he should be in the PoE. So no, I don't hink Nanook and Jack fall under the same category as far as Boo goes.

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:17 pm I am too stubborn to abandon my town tead on Nanook just yet.

That's fine. Even if Boo flips scum, I wouldn't automatically assume Nanook was scum with them. I think the only thing I'd do if Boo flips scum is clear Jack completely.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 7:50 am We’re just shooting me tonight, full stop. I’m not going to be the losing mis-kill, so the options are ONLY a) shoot me tonight and find a replacement for me in the towncore I laid out, or b) give me the gun and if I don’t shoot scum you can shoot me tomorrow and I’ll accept the loss.

There isn’t another option, cause I’ll tell you right now I’m not going to deal with this bullshit another game day, either resolve my slot now or lock me town. I don’t really give a fuck which at this point.

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 7:35 am Quite simply, I'm fighting pride at this point. Boo was an early civ read for me because I liked his approach. I can see how his tone and content may betray the logical approach and rebuttals that appealed to me. Nanook was another logic-based read because I don't think it's in baddies' interests to make the game harder for themselves unless absolutely necessary. I don't think that Dragomir was a lock for bad guy of the day for Day 3, because all the night discussion was about the people on Nanook's list. Unless I'm mistaken, Johann was the only one who had Dargomir in his sights Night 2 to that extent. You'd have had to press super-town hard at that point to make him the central focus. I was still uncertain of you at that point, so I don't know that I'd have thrown in with you, despite my thoughts of him.

To turn around and take two early civ reads and consider them in the POE now means admitting that I was duped from Day 1. It's been a long time since I was that wrong in a game and it stings. I'm processing it still. I'll come back in the afternoon after some time in the office.

Johann wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 2:49 am Most people here believe Nanook is town bcs he shot red and nanook himself likes to brag about it. If you read D2 i was the first one to push on Drago and the one that advocated his death the most. Rest of people soon picked it up too and Dragimir became suspect number 1. Dragomirs death was 100 gurantee. Nanook shoot Dragomir and the rest is history. After killing of Dragomir nanook started to boast how he is townie and he killed a scum, like he is the only one that knew Dragomir is scum. In fact majority of us knew and sooner or later he would die. So Nanook decided to cement his town position and shoot scum. Nothing now stands in his position.

After that he became cocky and took a back seat because he is confident in his position. You now have a player that killed a scum and is universaly read by most to be town and can get the gun again... yet mafia chooses to poison me? It makws 0 sense at all to leave Nanook alive after everything like 0%. If you were scum ask yourself would you leave Nanook alive? Ofc not!

He then said despite having "juciy opportunities" to push for me he didnt. What kind of townie says shit like that? Like hello?

This day phase so far has been really bad. No activity or trying to figure out stuff. Most of you are all locked in your reads and too lazy or stubborn to change. If one of you just dropped it for a bit and read some you would see a bigger picture.

You are being played hard and with activity and passion like this you will lose hard

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 4:16 am

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:17 pm Quotes galore that I want to point out when I’m not on my phone. I feel like James Dean in Rebel Without a Cause. Nanook and Jack seem to be arm-wrestling for control of the game today. Nanook was posting like someone who was sure he was going to get poisoned last night but showed no surprise at it not happening. Instead, he pivoted into a strong stance. Jack continues to flail about. It’s like the more he talks the harder it is to see clearly (or what I thought was clearly).

So, here is the state of things right now from my perspective. Both Nanook and Jack have town cleared me, Funny, and a couple others. On the other hand people in the town clear pile are suspecting Boo, Jack, and Nanook. I don't feel like Boo or Jack are arm-wrestling for control, because there's a chance one will get shot after the other for all we know. From my perspective, they are trying to push forward arguments why the other could be scum for the people in their town clears.

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:17 pm Can anyone see Jack-Nanook teammate compatibility in any of this? That’s the tinfoiliest of tinfoil for two baddies to go this cutthroat and vocal, but it drowns out all discussion and wears everybody out. Is that happening here? It feels too organic to be fake to me. I still want to believe that common sense dictates it is pointless for Nanook to kill a teammate when he doesn’t have to. Someone said he did it recently. If that’s true, then I have to wonder if he’s ballsy enough to try the same play again so soon. I didn’t play whatever game that was, so I haven’t been burned by it personally to vacate him of that defense.

If Boo flips town, one of those two are gonna get shot next, so they can't really hide from people. I think it's more likely that only one of them is scum, if at all.

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:17 pm Nanook and Jack both seem to have Boo in their shoot list. Johann has said today that both Nanook and Boo look like scum. If it weren’t for that, I might worry that Boo was being touted about as a red herring. That could still be the case in the tinfoiliest of tinfoil, but that means we’re being played hard and/or overlooking someone. I am guilty of mostly sheeping a civ read of Funnygurl based on the civ reads of others. With no playing experience with her, I have to trust your collective guts on her.

In Nanook's case, I feel like he was forced to include Boo in their shoot list after me and a bunch of other people kept yelling in the game that he should be in the PoE. So no, I don't hink Nanook and Jack fall under the same category as far as Boo goes.

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:17 pm I am too stubborn to abandon my town tead on Nanook just yet.

That's fine. Even if Boo flips scum, I wouldn't automatically assume Nanook was scum with them. I think the only thing I'd do if Boo flips scum is clear Jack completely.

Thank you both for these posts. If Boo's flip can clear Jack, then that's at least something. Are there any other shots in the POE that could clear someone like that?

I'm going to change my vote to [VOTE: Funnygurl] aubergine.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 9:16 am I don’t feel the need to engage with your garbage anymore. We can discuss in postgame and compare who shot scum and who pushed a scum agenda despite being confirmed town.

I’m not fighting it anymore, shoot me tonight then I’ll be smug in post game.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 9:22 am I’m literally agreeing with you that I should be shot tonight, you don’t need to keep spewing shit.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 9:27 am Better record than yours!

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:43 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:12 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:20 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:14 pm Juliets lacks any votes, mechanics, allegiances or anti-alignments that separate her as town. All she has is a. her claim (do scum have fakeclaims, idk) and b. the fact that she's felt pretty towny all game. She's been in that second-to-lynch position, but keeps scraping by.

Everyone else in the game has more than she does separating them from the scumteam.

Thanks for saving me the words.

[VOTE: juliets] aubergine

Yeah and I know you are not voting here but I feel juliets' "not telling Jack to move away from MP" looks less good than Nanook tagging me to make me change to MP and then later convincing me to do it when I showed up 3 minutes before the deadline.

Let me be devil’s advocate.

If Juliets is a wolf with MP, her giving up her vote and convincing me to vote away from Tony means there is a 2/3rds chance I vote a wolf instead. It doesn’t take her out of anyone’s POE except maybe mine.

If Nanook is a wolf with MP, the important thing is that he’s not in the POE and he remains not in the POE. A hard bus helps a lot with that.

You know what is better than not being in the POE?

A game with 5 townies and 2 scum left.

That's when it starts to look like a game that town can't win.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:51 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:48 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:47 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:42 am

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:39 am Someone remind me why we town cleared DDL. I can't remember the reason.

D1 radish push looked really good. He also initiated the MP switch for the DDL/Nanook crew yesterday, as I understand it.

I suggested we changed away from Wilgy, then went offline.

When I came back, Nanook had switched to MP and was trying to convince me to do the same.

Did you suggest changing to a specific person?

Nope, the idea to lynch MP came from nanook, at least when concering our private chat.

We'll have to reread the thread to see how he came up with that.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:47 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:42 am

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:39 am Someone remind me why we town cleared DDL. I can't remember the reason.

D1 radish push looked really good. He also initiated the MP switch for the DDL/Nanook crew yesterday, as I understand it.

I suggested we changed away from Wilgy, then went offline.

When I came back, Nanook had switched to MP and was trying to convince me to do the same.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:20 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:14 pm Juliets lacks any votes, mechanics, allegiances or anti-alignments that separate her as town. All she has is a. her claim (do scum have fakeclaims, idk) and b. the fact that she's felt pretty towny all game. She's been in that second-to-lynch position, but keeps scraping by.

Everyone else in the game has more than she does separating them from the scumteam.

Thanks for saving me the words.

[VOTE: juliets] aubergine

Yeah and I know you are not voting here but I feel juliets' "not telling Jack to move away from MP" looks less good than Nanook tagging me to make me change to MP and then later convincing me to do it when I showed up 3 minutes before the deadline.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 9:59 am Who tf are you fighting I’m accepting my death

Advocating for it even

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 9:59 am Who tf are you fighting I’m accepting my death

Advocating for it even

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 11:23 am nah i still ain't shooting nanook

ok new plan

nanook tell me who to shoot

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 11:24 am I’m literally telling you to shoot me, I refuse to be the losing shot tomorrow

Johann wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 9:20 am Oh and btw he once more.mentioned Dragomir shooting

Johann wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 9:21 am Cause thats everything he has

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 11:32 am There’s functionally seven alive right, me/FG/wilgy/boo/jack/hyena/gman

So here’s my solve if you want it:

I’m gonna take FG/wilgy/hyena as town and lose if I’m wrong

I’m honestly 50/50 between boo and gman for the last spot. There’s a lot of moving parts tbh, but I’d proooobably take boo just because I think he makes less sense as Jack’s partner than gman. I’m not entirely confident on that.

I’m also not super confident on hyena tbh but I have to lock someone in, and he’s probably less partnery with the remaining options I think, so here we are.

Anyways, assuming you shoot me today you’ll have to figure out who between gman/boo to trust, and honestly I don’t really envy you the decision.

If I’m wrong and totally off base you can all yell at me in postgame but this is what I’d ride with

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 11:36 am And if jack is somehow town pushing this then I need to seriously reevaluate my otherwise positive opinion of his play

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 11:34 am duskfall town read nanook h e l l o

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 11:40 am

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 11:34 am duskfall town read nanook h e l l o

And Mac scumread Nanook. Died screaming at us to kill him.

Nanook gets shot today.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 11:39 am I don’t know why you keep talking to me I’ve made it clear I’m not interested. Go away.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 11:42 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 11:40 am

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 11:34 am duskfall town read nanook h e l l o

And Mac scumread Nanook. Died screaming at us to kill him.

Nanook gets shot today.

ok w/e

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 11:47 am Unfortunately I have to concede that sometimes Town pushes a scum agenda (see: Johan, to a lesser extent Mac), but I can’t not SR you for this insanely bad push

Anyways, my message to everyone else is kill me and sheep my reads

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 7:50 am We’re just shooting me tonight, full stop. I’m not going to be the losing mis-kill, so the options are ONLY a) shoot me tonight and find a replacement for me in the towncore I laid out, or b) give me the gun and if I don’t shoot scum you can shoot me tomorrow and I’ll accept the loss.

There isn’t another option, cause I’ll tell you right now I’m not going to deal with this bullshit another game day, either resolve my slot now or lock me town. I don’t really give a fuck which at this point.